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:grouphug:

I can't ever remember seeing two extremes of emotions in a single thread

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[QUOTE=JGisLordOfTheRings;423150]Excellent. I too look forward to constructive conversations with not just you, but everyone here.

Besides, there IS [B]scientifical [/B]proof that holding grudges shortens your life span![/QUOTE]

Dude, I gotta tell you, that is funny. When you said it, it reminded me of Will Ferrell making fun of George Bush.

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[quote=FRPLG;423148]ahahahahaahahahahah!

Can we start discussing who we think those 10 would be?[/quote]
Sure... You go first.

Obviously, he couldn't get rid of any mods, so what does that leave... 4 more people? :)

[SIZE=1](Just so I cover my ass in case he ever becomes a mod. I heart you Schneed. Don't ban me.)[/SIZE]

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It can't be labeled gay while me and LB are still here. :)

...Damnit SSG moved the damn comment. Thanks SSG!

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that was disgusting.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;423158]It can't be labeled gay while me and LB are still here. :)

...Damnit SSG moved the damn comment. Thanks SSG![/quote]
Comments disappearing? It's a mod conspiracy...

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[QUOTE=Lady Brave;423155]Sure... You go first.

Obviously, he couldn't get rid of any mods, so what does that leave... 4 more people? :)

[SIZE=1](Just so I cover my ass in case he ever becomes a mod. I heart you Schneed. Don't ban me.)[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Schneed
Canuck
Smoot
Matty
GMan
Brud
SGG
Summo
TMC

That's 9 right there. 8 mods and Schneed. The 10th spot would be reserved for someone he could smack around :)

No seriously though, Schneed's cool. He "keeps it real" while he pines to be with CrazyCanuck and make sweet, sweet salary cap sheets ;)

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;423158]It can't be labeled gay while me and LB are still here. :)

...Damnit SSG moved the damn comment. Thanks SSG![/QUOTE]

Sorry, I deleted my own post within a minute of posting it. The vids were funny but I thought some people might not think so.

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[quote=SmootSmack;423166]Schneed
Canuck
Smoot
Matty
GMan
Brud
SGG
Summo
TMC

That's 9 right there. 8 mods and Schneed. The 10th spot would be reserved for someone he could smack around :)

No seriously though, Schneed's cool. He "keeps it real" while he pines to be with CrazyCanuck and make sweet, sweet salary cap sheets ;)[/quote]
I could only think of 6 off the top of my head.

It's best to read this thread with a tinfoil hat on. The interference from mine must have caused temporary memory loss.

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[QUOTE=JGisLordOfTheRings;423150]Excellent. I too look forward to constructive conversations with not just you, but everyone here.

Besides, there IS [B]scientifical [/B]proof that holding grudges shortens your life span![/QUOTE]

Excellent contextual use of my favorite new word.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;423166]Schneed
Canuck
Smoot
Matty
GMan
Brud
SGG
Summo
TMC

That's 9 right there. 8 mods and Schneed. The 10th spot would be reserved for someone he could smack around.[/QUOTE]

Well first he ban anyone who replied to Hess (sorry 12th, your pretty much Schnistory), then any socialists, then anyone who started a "retarted thread" and the final cut would be reserved for free spirits who refuse to conform to Schneality.

I am not sure there would even be 10 of us left.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;423243]Well first he ban anyone who replied to Hess (sorry 12th, your pretty much Schnistory), then any socialists, then anyone who started a "retarted thread" and the final cut would be reserved for free spirits who refuse to conform to Schneality.

[B] I am not sure there would even be 10 of us left.[/B][/quote]

Where's the scientifical evidence to back that up?

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People, I just got an exclusive, never before seen, video clip of Schneed the Damaja's latest hit song (some language NSFW)

[YT]KMnVA2JGd1s[/YT]

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LOL

Schneed regrets to announce the following layoffs:

Arno, JS

That is all.

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Seriously, the last thing anybody wants on this site is for me to be a mod. I'm better off as a member.

But I can dream. I would ban:

RedskinRich because I don't care who's signing autographs today.

Dmek because he's a liberal commy pinko.

Jsarno because he thinks you can actually use a system to win at roullette.

Hess for obvious reasons.

GTripp for occasionally losing his common sense within the mountains of stats he crunches through.

saden because he agrees with Dmek too much.

EarthQuake for making my team lose to SS's in his Warpath Madden Super Bowl. That would just never happen. Ever.

FRPLG for being the member most deserving of modship and not getting it. It's like being the best golfer never to win a major. It's almost to the point of being a depressing loser. Seriously, just leave the site with a semblance of dignity. (I tease, of course)

12th Man for being on the news and not acting like a rabid maniac of a fan. He made us look way too smart. We can't live up to that reputation.

Know what I'd really do? Ban anyone who says we're in cap hell without it being true. Instantaneously. No questions asked. My vision would be to create a site consisting only of folks who understand the salary cap. Vote Schneed for Ego.

Actually, I'd ban everybody so me and CC can have this place all to ourselves. Maybe GTripp can stay just to watch once in a while.

LOL

But seriously, nothin but love for the Warpath. Even from grumpy old Schneed!

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;423169]Sorry, I deleted my own post within a minute of posting it. The vids were funny but I thought some people might not think so.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that was pretty nasty man. I can see why you deleted it.

Hey schneed, I don't "think" it works, it "does" work.
Just won $650 more 3 weeks ago. It's a "scientifical" fact. ;)

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[quote=jsarno;423380]Yeah, that was pretty nasty man. I can see why you deleted it.

Hey schneed, I don't "think" it works, it "does" work.
Just won $650 more 3 weeks ago. It's a "scientifical" fact. ;)[/quote]

No, it doesn't work. There's no such thing as a successful roullette system. It's a mathematical fact.

PS I'm not above descending into this argument again!

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;423391]No, it doesn't work. There's no such thing as a successful roullette system. It's a mathematical fact.

PS I'm not above descending into this argument again![/QUOTE]

LOL...there are other things in life besides statistical facts...even statistics tell you that.
The massive amount of winnings everyone has won off my system speaks all the proof it needs to speak. You don't have to beleive it, that's your right, just doesn't make it any less true and effective.

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Statistics are for losers. Forty percent of all people know that :)

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82% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;423399]Statistics are for losers. Forty percent of all people know that :)[/QUOTE]

LOL! True.

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[quote=jsarno;423392]LOL...there are other things in life besides statistical facts...even statistics tell you that.
The massive amount of winnings everyone has won off my system speaks all the proof it needs to speak. You don't have to beleive it, that's your right, just doesn't make it any less true and effective.[/quote]

It can't be any less true and effective than it already is.

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[quote=Schneed10;423368]Seriously, the last thing anybody wants on this site is for me to be a mod. I'm better off as a member.

But I can dream. I would ban:

RedskinRich because I don't care who's signing autographs today.

Dmek because he's a liberal commy pinko.

Jsarno because he thinks you can actually use a system to win at roullette.

Hess for obvious reasons.

GTripp for occasionally losing his common sense within the mountains of stats he crunches through.

saden because he agrees with Dmek too much.

EarthQuake for making my team lose to SS's in his Warpath Madden Super Bowl. That would just never happen. Ever.

FRPLG for being the member most deserving of modship and not getting it. It's like being the best golfer never to win a major. It's almost to the point of being a depressing loser. Seriously, just leave the site with a semblance of dignity. (I tease, of course)

12th Man for being on the news and not acting like a rabid maniac of a fan. He made us look way too smart. We can't live up to that reputation.

Know what I'd really do? Ban anyone who says we're in cap hell without it being true. Instantaneously. No questions asked. My vision would be to create a site consisting only of folks who understand the salary cap. Vote Schneed for Ego.

Actually, I'd ban everybody so me and CC can have this place all to ourselves. Maybe GTripp can stay just to watch once in a while.

LOL

But seriously, nothin but love for the Warpath. Even from grumpy old Schneed![/quote]I demand my own personal bullet-proof window.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;423413]It can't be any less true and effective than it already is.[/QUOTE]

LOL

[quote]The massive amount of winnings everyone has won off my system speaks all the proof it needs to speak.[/quote]

nuff said.

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[quote=jsarno;423392]LOL...there are other things in life besides statistical facts...even statistics tell you that.
The massive amount of winnings everyone has won off my system speaks all the proof it needs to speak. You don't have to beleive it, that's your right, just doesn't make it any less true and effective.[/quote]Don't get caught in the "it worked before so it has to work in the future" vortex. That's where 90% of bad football analysis, and 100% of Vince Young's defenders come from.

There are some principles in your system, like moderation and the law of averages that affect how people will make and lose money, and if they are smart enough to realize that you can "quit while you are ahead".

None of that changes the fact that you can't alter statistical probabilities, your system is basically just trying to maximize the value of good luck--which can't succeed unless the player is aware of the statistical improbability that the luck run will continue.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;423421]Don't get caught in the "it worked before so it has to work in the future" vortex. That's where 90% of bad football analysis, and 100% of Vince Young's defenders come from.[/quote]

1 problem with that analysis is that football changes daily, and especially yearly, so in that context, you are correct. When you are speaking of something that does not change, then there is no reason to think it won't work in the future.

[quote]There are some principles in your system, like moderation and the law of averages that affect how people will make and lose money, and if they are smart enough to realize that you can "quit while you are ahead".[/quote]

That is most certainly part of my system.

[quote]None of that changes the fact that you can't alter statistical probabilities, your system is basically just trying to maximize the value of good luck--which can't succeed unless the player is aware of the statistical improbability that the luck run will continue.[/QUOTE]

My system is based on stastical probability. Like after black has hit 3 times in a row, it is statistically higher than 50/50 that red will hit. The only way to figure this out is to do a study of how often all those numbers / colors etc hit...I did a study of well over 10000 rolls. My statistics are accurate, and have proven to be so with winnings. It's clear as day. The winnings don't lie. Of course this could be a massive discussion yet again, and it will end with someone getting annoyed cause both sides won't budge...that's cool. Whoever disagrees can continue to do so and never win a thing. I will continue to beleive in my system and continue to reap the rewards. Approximately 13k in winnings in 4 years speaks for itself. I hold no hard feelings for those that don't beleive in the system. I have fact backing me up, so of course I will see the fact and the rewards and of course beleive in those. I can't expect skeptics to beleive when they have never seen it first hand, nor seen the actual statistical proof. It's not like if you don't beleive in Santa, he won't show up. You can not beleive all you want, and I will continue to win, and continue to win money for others as well. I guarentee you those that I have shown are 100% beleivers. That's all that really matters.

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[quote=jsarno;423426]1 problem with that analysis is that football changes daily, and especially yearly, so in that context, you are correct. When you are speaking of something that does not change, then there is no reason to think it won't work in the future.



That is most certainly part of my system.



My system is based on stastical probability. Like after black has hit 3 times in a row, it is statistically higher than 50/50 that red will hit. The only way to figure this out is to do a study of how often all those numbers / colors etc hit...I did a study of well over 10000 rolls. My statistics are accurate, and have proven to be so with winnings. It's clear as day. The winnings don't lie. Of course this could be a massive discussion yet again, and it will end with someone getting annoyed cause both sides won't budge...that's cool. Whoever disagrees can continue to do so and never win a thing. I will continue to beleive in my system and continue to reap the rewards. Approximately 13k in winnings in 4 years speaks for itself. I hold no hard feelings for those that don't beleive in the system. I have fact backing me up, so of course I will see the fact and the rewards and of course beleive in those. I can't expect skeptics to beleive when they have never seen it first hand, nor seen the actual statistical proof. It's not like if you don't beleive in Santa, he won't show up. You can not beleive all you want, and I will continue to win, and continue to win money for others as well. I guarentee you those that I have shown are 100% beleivers. That's all that really matters.[/quote]

Wow. That's more scientifical info than I needed.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;423426]My system is based on stastical probability. Like after black has hit 3 times in a row, it is statistically higher than 50/50 that red will hit.[/QUOTE]

OMG it is not. You 100% factually wrong. That is not an opinion. It is fact. Given two outcomes on any one roll it is 50/50 EVRY TIME. No matter what.

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Yeah, jsarno, you're dead wrong on the red and black thing. You're basically saying that if you flip a coin and it lands on heads 3 times in a row, then it's more than 50% likely to land on tails during the next flip.

That's flat out incorrect. Events that happened in the past are exactly that, in the past. They do nothing to change the probabilities of future outcomes.

Your stance makes you appear uneducated.

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[quote=Schneed10;423493]Yeah, jsarno, you're dead wrong on the red and black thing. You're basically saying that if you flip a coin and it lands on heads 3 times in a row, then it's more than 50% likely to land on tails during the next flip.

That's flat out incorrect. Events that happened in the past are exactly that, in the past. They do nothing to change the probabilities of future outcomes.

Your stance makes you appear uneducated.[/quote]

Whats the probability of it landing on its side? ;)

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[QUOTE=jsarno;423426]My system is based on stastical probability. Like after black has hit 3 times in a row, it is statistically higher than 50/50 that red will hit. The only way to figure this out is to do a study of how often all those numbers / colors etc hit...I did a study of well over 10000 rolls. My statistics are accurate, and have proven to be so with winnings. It's clear as day. The winnings don't lie. [/QUOTE]

OK, so you studied 10,000 rolls and what were your conclusions? If it was anything other than all numbers have an equal chance of hitting at all times then I am going to have to join in the chorus questioning both your methodology and your sanity.

Anyway J, don't tell too many people about this. I enjoy Vegas and I don't want the town going out of business.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;423493]Yeah, jsarno, you're dead wrong on the red and black thing. You're basically saying that if you flip a coin and it lands on heads 3 times in a row, then it's more than 50% likely to land on tails during the next flip.

That's flat out incorrect. Events that happened in the past are exactly that, in the past. They do nothing to change the probabilities of future outcomes.

Your stance makes you appear uneducated.[/QUOTE]

Really don't care how I appear, my wallet is much fatter for it...like I said, that's all the proof I need.

ps- My buddy, a DR. just won $750 using my method. I guess he's pretty uneducated too. hahaha

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You know what's funny? First this thread was about the 9/11 mockumentary "Loose Change"

And now (after being hijacked multiple times) it's about gambling strategies in Vegas...so I guess it's still about Loose Change :)

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[QUOTE=jsarno;423507]Really don't care how I appear, my wallet is much fatter for it...like I said, that's all the proof I need.

ps- My buddy, a DR. just won $750 using my method. I guess he's pretty uneducated too. hahaha[/QUOTE]

what's a DR?

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[quote=SmootSmack;423510]You know what's funny? First this thread was about the 9/11 mockumentary "Loose Change"

And now (after being hijacked multiple times) it's about gambling strategies in Vegas...so I guess it's still about Loose Change :)[/quote]


HAHAHA....at least it stayed on topic!

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[QUOTE=djnemo65;423503]OK, so you studied 10,000 rolls and what were your conclusions? If it was anything other than all numbers have an equal chance of hitting at all times then I am going to have to join in the chorus questioning both your methodology and your sanity.

Anyway J, don't tell too many people about this. I enjoy Vegas and I don't want the town going out of business.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, it's a lot of pages worth of studies, I have a long book written on it. I haven't even scratched the surface of describing the method here. There was a thread here a LONG time ago that explained it a little, and some here even PMed me to thank me for helping them win money. Of course there were others that just went ahead and insulted me due to their own fears and fart sniffing. It's all good.
Vegas wouldn't go out of business cause of my book, you don't bet enough money to win enough money to break vegas. You have to start small...$5 max in each section, then go from there.
What I find most amusing is the amount of people that are willing to try and be successful, and the amount of people that would rather not bother and persecute those that do. When you sit back and watch how people react, it's quite interesting. The same people tell you "Mari-ju-wana is bad mmm kay", and yet they haven't tried it...the same people that tell you not to open up and try and they are content to sit on the sidelines and watch life.

Regardless, if you are content knowing only what you know, how will you ever learn anything new? (be warned that some here think they know everything)

ps- if you beleive in the ideal of carma, than understanding other things are possible becomes a lot easier.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;423512]what's a DR?[/QUOTE]

Doctor.

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Do you sell your book?

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;423517]Do you sell your book?[/QUOTE]

I have given it to very close friends and family...it is not publishing worthy yet. I haven't had the time to refine it to get it published. I am not a good author.

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BTW- if people here feel like insulting me or at the least be negative towards my program despite all the success it has had, that's your choice, and carry on...but I will not be commenting on it any further, it's not going anywhere, and I should not have contributed to hijacking a thread. My bad.

Thanks guys...I look forward to constructive conversation with some of you elswhere in this site.