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The dancing stuff is meaningless and if anything helped improve his conditioning.

I wish the Skins had a player they drafted ready to step up but thats just not how the Skins do business. I think if JTs head and heart are still into football this could work out great for the Skins. If not this will be another high profile flop. I think his head and heart are still into it and expect this move to pay off.

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[quote=Schneed10;458040]Wanted to weigh in with my thoughts:

1) I'm surprised to hear the Skins had the cap room to accomodate this. They must have made some other cap moves that me and CC (and another source, PCINOZ) were not aware of.

2) Given that Cerrato seems to be privy to information indicating Taylor will play beyond this season, I'll gladly give up a 2 and a 6 for two seasons of Jason Taylor.

[B]3) I am slightly concerned with Taylor being asked to switch from RDE which he played in Miami, to LDE here. It's a slight concern, but I can't imagine he's going to go off for 15 sacks when making that switch.[/B]

4) But still, if we can get 8 sacks from him on that side, it will make a huge difference. The impact should not be underestimated. Because of his presence, our DTs will see more one-on-ones. They should be freed to be more active and make more stops. Our corners won't be asked to cover for quite as long. But the biggest impact of all: turnovers. What wins in the NFL? Turnover margin. It's the single biggest factor in winning. Pressure from Taylor and Carter, combined with Landry's range in the secondary, should produce more INTs. The chance of QB fumbles goes up, too.

I think we just went from a 7-9 team to a 9-7 team. This swung me around, consider me an optimist. Good move.[/quote]

I am not sure why some are worried about this? If you remember when the Phins played the Skins last season, Taylor lined up all over the line! If you watched some other Phins games (I know, hard to do) he lines up all over the line to get the best matchup. I do think he will be fine at either end and wouldn't be surprised if he moved around, got up in a 2pt, whatever it takes to create the matchup.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=jbcjr14;458045]I am not sure why some are worried about this? If you remember when the Phins played the Skins last season, Taylor lined up all over the line! If you watched some other Phins games (I know, hard to do) he lines up all over the line to get the best matchup. I do think he will be fine at either end and wouldn't be surprised if he moved around, got up in a 2pt, whatever it takes to create the matchup.[/quote]

That's a good point that I think alot of people are missing. In Miami Taylor lined up all over, and on 3rd downs he can line up at LB as well. He's very versatile.

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[quote=davy;458019]I'm not happy about the deal.

The way I look at it is, would I give up Devin Thomas and Durant Brooks for a guy who is likely to play 2 years max?

I would have to say no.[/quote]

Do we really know what Thomas and Brooks are going to do in the NFL? They are unknown commodities at this point.

Would it be worth it to get a top 5 DE in the league for 2 full seasons? Maybe a HOF? If you can get 2 good years out of Taylor. I'd say that's pretty successful. Taylor is used to getting 10+ sacks a year. That makes our whole D better...the LB's and CB's especially. I'd say they are pretty happy about getting Taylor.

On a % basis, 6th rounders rarely start and don't last long in the NFL.

I think the skins made a good move here.

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21;458041]
People are saying ridiculous things like "what kind of leader goes off dancing....he should be helping his 1-15 team to get better." When dancing with the stars was being filmed there wasn't any team organized training or team organized events that Taylor was somehow skipping out on. If he had been working out at the Dolphins facility at the time, there probably wouldn't have even been anyone else there.
[/quote]
To the contrary, there were several OTA's taking place that he missed. Albiet all were voluntary.

When your highest tenured team leader put's positioning his post-football career over his teams improvement, it just sends the wrong message. When your team is 1-15, those "voluntary" OTA's take on more meaning than if the team was 11-5.

Again, I believe to a certain degree that both parties share blame in the fall-out in Miami.

1.) Parcells needs to relax his sphincter a bit
2.) For Taylor, there are better times to pursue off-seeason commitments outside of football then when your team is 1-15.

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And another thing.......who the F-- is Bill Parcells to criticize anyone? That's guy's been with more teams than I can even keep track of anymore. He's the biggest whore in the NFL. He's the NFL's Larry Brown. He's going to criticize a guy he barely knows who has been the leader of the Dolphins D for over a decade?.....when Parcells has been a member of the Dolphins organization for what?....a couple of days now? Give me a break.

Trivia: What kind of a hack announces that he's leaving his current team the week before they play in the Super Bowl to coach for another team regardless of what his team does in the Super Bowl to steal the whole Super Bowl spotlight? Answer: Bill Parcells. F-- Parcells any every one of his uninformed, unwarranted, and self-righteous opinions.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=GMScud;457981]While I'd agree that one of our first three picks would have been well spent on a DT or DE, we did address needs in the draft. I think given today's situation (independent of draft day), we made a good move. A 2nd and 6th for a top 5 defensive player in the league is well worth it, and Vinny said he's "100% certain Taylor will play more than one year." Taylor has repeatedly said he wants to win more than anything, and now he has a chance to play for a playoff-caliber team in the league's best division. I'd want to retire ASAP too if I had just suffered through that 1-15 debacle. The stage here is different. He's playing closer to his home (Pitt) for a team with a great locker room, an owner with Hollywood pull, and an on the field product capable of a playoff run. I think he'll be happy to play out the last two years of his contract here.

I also think it's very important to point out (while knocking on wood) that Jason Taylor hasn't missed a game since 1999 (he missed 1 that year), and has only missed 4 his entire career. Not to mention he said Dancing With Stars has his flexibility better than it's ever been. Some nice positives there.[/quote]

I don't think he is a top 5 defensive player right now. In 06 yes, but not now.He's going to be 34 soon. I hope I'm wrong.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;458048]To the contrary, there were several OTA's taking place that he missed. Albiet all were voluntary.

When your highest tenured team leader put's positioning his post-football career over his teams improvement, it just sends the wrong message. When your team is 1-15, those "voluntary" OTA's take on more meaning than if the team was 11-5.

Again, I believe to a certain degree that both parties share blame in the fall-out in Miami.

1.) Parcells needs to relax his sphincter a bit
2.) For Taylor, there are better times to pursue off-seeason commitments outside of football then when your team is 1-15.[/quote]

Unless voluntary suddenly means mandatory then I don't know what the big deal is.

I have a feeling that regardless of what JT did, Parcells was going to look to push him out. Dancing with the stars was a very convenient excuse.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=jbcjr14;458045]I am not sure why some are worried about this? If you remember when the Phins played the Skins last season, Taylor lined up all over the line! If you watched some other Phins games (I know, hard to do) he lines up all over the line to get the best matchup. I do think he will be fine at either end and wouldn't be surprised if he moved around, got up in a 2pt, whatever it takes to create the matchup.[/quote]

Oh yeah, yous is right. I forgot all about that, he was a menace against us in that game too. Good stuff, that makes me feel even better about the deal.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=Schneed10;458040]3) I am slightly concerned with Taylor being asked to switch from RDE which he played in Miami, to LDE here. It's a slight concern, but I can't imagine he's going to go off for 15 sacks when making that switch.[/quote]I think for the preseason and the first few games, it's going to feel unnatural to him. But hey, Daniels and Renaldo Wynn both made the same switch and did just fine.

Ultimately, I think the switch will help because he's facing lesser competition against RTs than LTs. The exception is when we play Arizona -- but Carter is going to be on the 'blind' side anyway, so then everything will be flipped.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

I feel that this is a very good move for the short term. While I wish they had given up a 3 and a 6 I can see why they gave up the 2. It was a move that pretty much had to be made and the Fins knew it just as much as the Skins did. That allowed them to drive up the price.

As for his dancing, that greatly improves one's balance and he has said that it got him into better shape. Also, I'm pretty sure he knows how to get into a 3 point stance, so it's not that big of a deal that he missed OTA's.

I feel like, if he can come in and put up 11 sacks (as he has the last 3 seasons) it will take a lot of the pressure off of a depleted group of corners. This move works on a lot of levels for this team, not the least of which being leadership. Jason Taylor will help lead this team.

Finally, I was a little critical of the team for taking Fred Davis over Quentin Groves in the 2nd round of the draft. If you asked me if I'd rather have Groves or Davis and Taylor, that choice is obvious. This move gets my approval all day.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

anybody know of any good Dolphins boards? I'm curious what their fans' perspective is on this trade. Do they think "thank God, somebody actually gave us a 2nd for this guy" or is it more of a "I can't believe they got rid of Taylor?"

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;458048]2.) For Taylor, there are better times to pursue off-seeason commitments outside of football then when your team is 1-15.[/quote]

Jason Taylor was not the problem with Miami, he was not responsible for turning their ship around. Hell, he was one of the only players who played well last season.

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[quote=irish;458044]The dancing stuff is meaningless and if anything helped improve his conditioning.

I wish the Skins had a player they drafted ready to step up but thats just not how the Skins do business. I think if JTs head and heart are still into football this could work out great for the Skins. If not this will be another high profile flop. I think his head and heart are still into it and expect this move to pay off.[/quote]

Stop the presses, if irish is on board then I [I]really[/I] feel good about this move! :)

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;458053]Unless voluntary suddenly means mandatory then I don't know what the big deal is.

I have a feeling that regardless of what JT did, Parcells was going to look to push him out. Dancing with the stars was a very convenient excuse.[/QUOTE]

Everyone knows they are called voluntary but in reality you gotta be there. I do agree that Parcells had it in for JT and the dancing stuff made a good excuse.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=theJBexperience;457885]I hope he enjoys playing here and stays for a few years. A 2nd & 6th round pick is a lot for one last hurrah from JT.[/quote]



I think you paid to much.:food-smil

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;458059]Stop the presses, if irish is on board then I [I]really[/I] feel good about this move! :)[/QUOTE]

LOL

It all depends on his frame of mind about football. They also got a guy a lot closer to his prime than Buce Smith or Past His Prime Time.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;458057]anybody know of any good Dolphins boards? I'm curious what their fans' perspective is on this trade. Do they think "thank God, somebody actually gave us a 2nd for this guy" or is it more of a "I can't believe they got rid of Taylor?"[/quote]

[url=http://www.thephinsider.com/]The Phinsider - A Miami Dolphins blog and community, established November 19, 2006[/url]

I think their fans are split. Some think he was worth more than a 2nd, while some are just happy it's over and they got something of value for him since the writing was on the wall that Parcells wanted him gone. Overall though you can't be happy to lose a guy of his caliber and someone that meant so much to them for so long.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=Giantone;458063]I think you paid to much.:food-smil[/quote]

All depends on how Taylor performs. If he puts up 10+ sacks two seasons in a row, and generates an additional 3 or 4 turnovers that we otherwise probably wouldn't have generated, I'd gladly give up a 2nd.

If he stinks, then yeah, it was too much.

But what are the chances that Jason Taylor, of all people, will stink this year? Low. I'll take it.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=skinsfan69;458052]I don't think he is a top 5 defensive player right now. In 06 yes, but not now.He's going to be 34 soon. I hope I'm wrong.[/quote]


I don't think he'll be a top 5 either but not because of age. Last year, at age 33) he had 11 sacks, 1 INT and a TD. Not too shabby for a decrepit old geezer.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

When I signed on yesterday and saw that Jason Taylor had been traded I did not think it would be to the Redskins. Once I opened the link to the story I was pleasantly surprised. I am not jazzed that we gave up a second rounder but the Skins had to act quick considering the events of yesterday. I applaud them for that and for getting Taylor in early enough that he has time to work with the defensive unit.

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6'6 255lbs.... good grief! I thought Andre Carter was big!!!

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[quote=irish;458065]LOL

It all depends on his frame of mind about football. They also got a guy a lot closer to his prime than Buce Smith or Past His Prime Time.[/quote]

True. I'm thinking that with a new team and one that should be in the playoff hunt he will be re-energized and eager to prove to Parcells that he made a big mistake.

The guy has always played with a very high motor. I'm not too concerned about him coming here and rolling over.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=irish;458044]The dancing stuff is meaningless and if anything helped improve his conditioning.

I wish the Skins had a player they drafted ready to step up but thats just not how the Skins do business. I think if JTs head and heart are still into football this could work out great for the Skins. If not this will be another high profile flop. I think his head and heart are still into it and expect this move to pay off.[/quote]

Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.

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[quote=skinsfan69;458072]Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.[/quote]


I highly doubt if his being on Dancing With The Stars is any indication of his dedication to football. This is guy who hasn't missed a start in about 10 years. Trust me, he'll be on point come September.

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[quote=skinsfan69;458072]Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.[/quote]

Well, when your team has only won ONE game all season long and is considered a laughing stock... then why not boost your career in any way that you can? Maybe it wasn't the best call, but it sure got him noticed and put his name on the map, and not just for his football. I really don't blame the guy.

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[quote=skinsfan69;458072]Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.[/quote]

Not sure why you are so hung up on what he did during his offseason but let's look at what he's done on the field. I think that speaks for itself.

The dancing thing is long over, he's going to show up ready to roll. He's always kept himself in great shape, there's a good reason why he's still such a high performer at his age.

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From the Sporting News article (you might want to get a Kleenex before reading:

[I]2. Jason Taylor, Washington Redskins: Taylor will continue to be a force with his new team in 2008. He has played in numerous schemes, handling a multitude of responsibilities. The NFL's defensive player of the year a mere two seasons ago, Taylor is best known for his pass rush. But he is a gifted and versatile athlete who continues to show great quickness and athleticism late in his career, and plays with the motor of an undrafted rookie.[/I]

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;458072]Sorry but dancing does not get you in football shape. If his head and heart were 100% into football he wouldn't be going on dancing shows. I know I'm in the minority but to me that's just awful.[/QUOTE]

Its a building process thats why players lift weights, run, do yoga, stretch, etc. It all helps a player be more physically fit which in turn helps them play better football and round themselves into "football shape".

If a guy goes fishing or golfing in the offseason it doesnt mean they are not 100% into football. Everyone needs a mental and physical break.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

Here are my thoughts

1. We paid too much with a 2nd and a 6th....I dont know what that amounts too by draft points...but its probably close to a low 1st for 2 years max.

2. The other problem with giving up a 1st day pick is this....that was the pick we needed for a long term DE...yes, you can say we can do this with our 1st...but cmon....we need a CB and those go high...we also need DT and Oline pretty bad...not to mention LB's.

3. I am now concerned about running D...Daniels was no sack master...but he sure did well against the run....perhaps evans can help out but do you really want AC or JT on the bench?....what we need now is a STUD DT and a solid OLB to cover for Griffen and Rocky....to me...the needs just went up there.

4. Looking back a couple years, we had ZERO pass rushing...then we got AC...who initially looked weak.....now....we have 4 pass rushing specialists at the DE position (Carter, Taylor, Wilson, EJames, not to mention MWashington at LB)
This means our weakness is now stopping the run...we will have to do that with DT's and LB's almost exclusively....say what you want about Daniels...but he played DT and DE....and that is a great 2 for 1 deal...we still need to replace him.

5 This one really pisses me off.....our training staff.....last year we lost tons of guys for cramps and muscle pulls...injuries attributable to hydration and stretching.....NOW we lose 2 guys that arguably could have been avoided if they were loosened up more.
I dont blame the training staff....but...this is definately a trend that has not stopped which almost killed our season last year.

6 I love the fact that JT did that dancing thing....why? because he is flexible and has zero body fat...that means he's fit and unlikely to suffer bogus "freak" non contact injuries.

Even though the cons include a weaker run d and a loss of a very valuable 2nd rounder, I hesitantly approve due to the fact that there was NO ALTERNATIVE.
But I am still pissed at the training staff for sucking so bad.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=Mattyk72;458076]Not sure why you are so hung up on what he did during his offseason but let's look at what he's done on the field. I think that speaks for itself.

The dancing thing is long over, he's going to show up ready to roll. He's always kept himself in great shape, there's a good reason why he's still such a high performer at his age.[/quote]

I just think it's a selfish thing to do while your teammates are woking out. But like I said, I hope it works out.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=hesscl34;458075]Well, when your team has only won ONE game all season long and is considered a laughing stock... then why not boost your career in any way that you can? Maybe it wasn't the best call, but it sure got him noticed and put his name on the map, and not just for his football. I really don't blame the guy.[/quote]

I just feel Taylor is more concerned about his Hollywood career. Maybe I'm worng. Maybe playing on a 1-15 team will make you think about other things. I don't know. But I do know giving up a high draft pick for a guy that may play one more yeat isn't a smart thing to do. What if we go 5-11? Then what? He could just walk and the trade is a total bust. I guess I always think of the worse case scenario.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

I love the move. It was necessary with the loss of Daniels.

I believe he'll play out his contract and give us two years of double-digit sacks. :)

The last 3 years, he's had 12, 13.5 and 11 sacks. He has missed ONE game since the start of the 1998 season. He's reliable and his sack totals have gone up with experience, not down with age. People have criticized his techniques in this thread, but the numbers don't lie, he's a sack-monster...and was on a horrible team. With Andre Carter on the other end...his presence is going to help the team even if he doesn't get the sack himself. O-Lines can't double-team Taylor AND Carter.

Too bad they can't both wear #99...it would just add to the chaos for the opposing offenses.

He'll love the winning and won't want to quit. Of course he said he only wanted to play one more year, but that was when Parcells was running the show and the 'Phins were coming off a ONE-WIN season. Who wouldn't want out of that situation?

The move to a winning team and great organization will revitalize Jason Taylor and he'll want to stay as long as he can. That's my opinion, at least.

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Any Skins fan should know that the Skins do not worry about giving away draft picks and developing their own depth. Like I said in a previous post I wish they had a player they drafted ready to step in but its not how the Skins do things. I doubt this philosophy will change anytime soon.

[QUOTE=skinsnut;458079]Here are my thoughts

1. We paid too much with a 2nd and a 6th....I dont know what that amounts too by draft points...but its probably close to a low 1st for 2 years max.

2. The other problem with giving up a 1st day pick is this....that was the pick we needed for a long term DE...yes, you can say we can do this with our 1st...but cmon....we need a CB and those go high...we also need DT and Oline pretty bad...not to mention LB's.

3. I am now concerned about running D...Daniels was no sack master...but he sure did well against the run....perhaps evans can help out but do you really want AC or JT on the bench?....what we need now is a STUD DT and a solid OLB to cover for Griffen and Rocky....to me...the needs just went up there.

4. Looking back a couple years, we had ZERO pass rushing...then we got AC...who initially looked weak.....now....we have 4 pass rushing specialists at the DE position (Carter, Taylor, Wilson, EJames, not to mention MWashington at LB)
This means our weakness is now stopping the run...we will have to do that with DT's and LB's almost exclusively....say what you want about Daniels...but he played DT and DE....and that is a great 2 for 1 deal...we still need to replace him.

5 This one really pisses me off.....our training staff.....last year we lost tons of guys for cramps and muscle pulls...injuries attributable to hydration and stretching.....NOW we lose 2 guys that arguably could have been avoided if they were loosened up more.
I dont blame the training staff....but...this is definately a trend that has not stopped which almost killed our season last year.

6 I love the fact that JT did that dancing thing....why? because he is flexible and has zero body fat...that means he's fit and unlikely to suffer bogus "freak" non contact injuries.

Even though the cons include a weaker run d and a loss of a very valuable 2nd rounder, I hesitantly approve due to the fact that there was NO ALTERNATIVE.
But I am still pissed at the training staff for sucking so bad.[/QUOTE]

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=skinsnut;458079]Here are my thoughts

1. We paid too much with a 2nd and a 6th....I dont know what that amounts too by draft points...but its probably close to a low 1st for 2 years max.

2. The other problem with giving up a 1st day pick is this....that was the pick we needed for a long term DE...yes, you can say we can do this with our 1st...but cmon....we need a CB and those go high...we also need DT and Oline pretty bad...not to mention LB's.

3. I am now concerned about running D...Daniels was no sack master...but he sure did well against the run....perhaps evans can help out but do you really want AC or JT on the bench?....what we need now is a STUD DT and a solid OLB to cover for Griffen and Rocky....to me...the needs just went up there.

4. Looking back a couple years, we had ZERO pass rushing...then we got AC...who initially looked weak.....now....we have 4 pass rushing specialists at the DE position (Carter, Taylor, Wilson, EJames, not to mention MWashington at LB)
This means our weakness is now stopping the run...we will have to do that with DT's and LB's almost exclusively....say what you want about Daniels...but he played DT and DE....and that is a great 2 for 1 deal...we still need to replace him.

5 This one really pisses me off.....our training staff.....last year we lost tons of guys for cramps and muscle pulls...injuries attributable to hydration and stretching.....NOW we lose 2 guys that arguably could have been avoided if they were loosened up more.
I dont blame the training staff....but...this is definately a trend that has not stopped which almost killed our season last year.

6 I love the fact that JT did that dancing thing....why? because he is flexible and has zero body fat...that means he's fit and unlikely to suffer bogus "freak" non contact injuries.

Even though the cons include a weaker run d and a loss of a very valuable 2nd rounder, I hesitantly approve due to the fact that there was NO ALTERNATIVE.
But I am still pissed at the training staff for sucking so bad.[/quote]

With a good season that #2 pick could be a mid to lower round 2nd. As for the 6th who cares, that's a toss in.

Daniels got tangled up and landed awkwardly on his knee... not sure what stretching could have done to avoid that. Shit like that happens all the time.

As for Buzbee I'm not sure how he got hurt exactly but again, I'm not sure what amount of stretching can do to prevent a blown out achilles.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;458086]With a good season that #2 pick could be a mid to lower round 2nd. As for the 6th who cares, that's a toss in.

Daniels got tangled up and landed awkwardly on his knee... not sure what stretching could have done to avoid that. Shit like that happens all the time.

As for Buzbee I'm not sure how he got hurt exactly but again, I'm not sure what amount of stretching can do to prevent a blown out achilles.[/QUOTE]

Great points, I was about to respond with the same exact thing..

For all of the naysayers, what else would you have preferred the Redskins to do?

1. Go into the season with Demetric Evans as your starting DE? He's been in the league for 6 years, if he was a starting caliber player-he'd be starting!

2. Sign a street free agent? Simeon Rice is the best available, but there again, there's a reason why these guys are on the street in late July.

3. Wait for Erasmus James? This would be a bigger gamble than trading away picks. He's never been healthy and when he was healthy he wasn't a world beater. If he's able to add something to the defense, that's a bonus-but it would be irresponsible for the FO to count on that happening and wait to see how it played out.

I won't argue with those who say DE should have been addressed in the draft because there's nothing that can be done about it now.. We made the best move for our scenario, getting a better all around player who is 18 months YOUNGER than the player he replaced!

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with the addition of taylor, the steady improvement we've seen from montgomery and wilson, carter's consistency, griff's ability when healthy and (fingers crossed) the possibility of a healthy erasmus james, is it possible that the d-line could (gasp!) suddenly become the strength of our defense???

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[quote=PIG#1;458025]My Hat Is Off To Dan And Vin.it Just Goes To Show This Franchise Really Wants To Win And Win Badly.hail To The Redskins And Welcome Mr. Taylor To A Great Place To Play Football.in This Great Country Of Ours.[/quote]


Dude, learn some grammar, and punctuation. Your posts are an english major's nightmare. It makes me laugh everytime. Why do you capitalize every word?

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[quote=Paintrain;458087]Great points, I was about to respond with the same exact thing..

For all of the naysayers, what else would you have preferred the Redskins to do?

1. Go into the season with Demetric Evans as your starting DE? He's been in the league for 6 years, if he was a starting caliber player-he'd be starting!

2. Sign a street free agent? Simeon Rice is the best available, but there again, there's a reason why these guys are on the street in late July.

3. Wait for Erasmus James? This would be a bigger gamble than trading away picks. He's never been healthy and when he was healthy he wasn't a world beater. If he's able to add something to the defense, that's a bonus-but it would be irresponsible for the FO to count on that happening and wait to see how it played out.

[B]I won't argue with those who say DE should have been addressed in the draft because there's nothing that can be done about it now.. [/B]We made the best move for our scenario, getting a better all around player who is 18 months YOUNGER than the player he replaced![/quote]

I agree, there's nothing we can do to change the draft now so there's no sense in crying about it.

At least we had the cap room to pull this move off.

Re: Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)
 

[quote=Paintrain;458087]1. Go into the season with Demetric Evans as your starting DE? He's been in the league for 6 years, if he was a starting caliber player-he'd be starting![/quote]This one.

Where I come from, the concept of depth means that when your team sustains injuries, you turn over to your depth and ask them to play a bigger role for you.

The Redskins, on the other hand, turn to their depth and say, "Demetric, you know we like you and all, it's just that...we'd much rather forfeit the entire season than see you at LDE on opening night. Keep doing your thing, buddy."


Are you telling me that Demetric Evans isn't capable of being a decent two down player in the NFL? If that's the case, why have him on the roster at all?

I do hope the extra half (.5) to a full (1.0) win that Taylor delivers over Daniels this season is significant -- because it's probably going to cost us 2-3 wins from 2010 to 2012.