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[quote=CocoChanels;565748]Who knows where to download XRumer 5.0 Palladium?
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[quote=Meks;526210]
Moss should have been returning WAY more punts.[/quote]


if thomas and kelly can step it up this season, then i see no reason to not make santana the permanent punt returner.

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[quote=wolfeskins;565787]if thomas and kelly can step it up this season, then i see no reason to not make santana the permanent punt returner.[/quote]

Weird bump.

Anyway, S.Moss would be a lethal punt returner. But I agree with keeping him as a WR only. Seriously now -- Moss is our ONLY wide receiving threat. We kept Darrell Green healthy enough to retire at 42years old because we only used him sparingly as PR.

That being said, here's ARE's stats from last year:

[B]Randel El: [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/sortableStats?div=NFL&stable=returning&stat=retPuntAvg&stype=nfl-player-stats-punt-returning&dir=descending"]6.5 yds/return last year, no TDs in THREE YEARS[/URL]
He was 21st in return average[/B]

Perhaps it's not as bad as we think -- Devin Hester averaged 6.2yds in 2008. ;) Anyway, I sure hope ONE of the new guys can return punts. It's simply sad that the coaches simply don't trust anyone else to field punts & not fumble them. I can't take another year of watching ARE jump around.

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[quote=Ruhskins;526342]See these are the typical negative rants that upset me. Here's my counterpoint to your rant

-[B] JC had a stellar first half of the season[/B], did not turn the ball over and during those first 8 games put up some very good numbers, he was among that top 10 rated QBs in the league.

- Actually I do agree with your statement about the team's inability to score, our red zone offense was horrible, and the offense did not put teams away. But I don't thin you can pin that on JC alone.

- JC did at times lock into a primary receiver, however there were times that our receivers could not get separation. JC didn't trust the rookies (not entirely his fault), and to be honest, I would have liked to have seen better production from Cooley.

Campbell needs to improve in his downfield attack, and hopefully having the rookies at full speed in camp will help develop some trust and confidence in them, allowing him to have more options. The Redskins are a run-first/pass-second team, however JC does need to develop into the type of QB that can win the game for us. Due to our good running game and our above average defense, I think we've asked the QBs to be game managers and not to go and win the game.

Honestly, I have yet to see you make anything that resembles a non-negative comment about the team. Not that you are required to make one or something, I just wonder if you have so little faith on the team and its players, why are you a fan?[/quote]

During the greatest stretch of his pro career, he had 8 TDs in 8 games. Stellar? Yawn. Despite his limitations, I'd actually like to see the Skins re-sign Campbell and use their first pick to draft a QB. They can re-build the O line with their other draft picks and via free agency. Maybe Campbell will step up like Drew Brees did when the Chargers drafted Philip Rivers.

We'd have a much improved JC and a rookie QB drafted in the top 10. Win-win!

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[quote=GTripp0012;525995]Agreed, but don't undersell the fact that the solutions [I]might[/I] be in house, which would result in a lightning quick turnaround if true.[/quote]

I agree. The D is fine and would play much better if the O was half-way decent and actually gave the D the lead to play with every once in a while.

With better coaching and leadership, the Skins could be much improved with a better O line, Running back(s) and a new QB, although they could get by with JC for a few more years while they groom someone else. They could get this debacle turned around in a year or two.

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Debacle! This is horrific, I am praying for miracles. Polly wanna cracker!!

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I like that parrot it is unique.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;525582]Interesting take on Campbell. I like the kid, but my patience with him is running out. I would have already benched him if I was the coach. I am sorry for saying that, but it is how I feel. I look at Campbell and McNabb and see two cities that veiw their QB's in an opposite manner. McNabb is on of the best winning QB's in the league and they hate him in Philadelphia. We have a QB that has been terrible and we give him every excuse for loosing. He has Portis, Moss and Cooley. How much more could he ask for. Its the Oline, its the recievers, no it is the quarterback.
[URL="http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/02/06/redskins-jason-campbell-could-be-parting-ways-after-09-season/"]Redskins, Jason Campbell Could Part Ways After '09 Season - NFL FanHouse[/URL][/quote]

Honestly at this point I don't know who's most at fault. I think a little of everyone goes a long way. I was watching the Pitt/Denver game last night and at one point the announcers were commenting on how long Big Ben has to throw the ball.....he had like 5.4 seconds. They talked about it like he had all day. How long is JC being given to get rid of the ball? 1 or 2 seconds? To me it seems like JC is being given time, he may not have the lanes to throw through or receivers may not be open but I seem to think he's being given the time. At some point JC needs to just let the ball fly and expect the WR to go after the ball. If he's doing his job then the coach's can yell at the WR/TE for not doing their part. I understand ball security but JC is simply over thinking some plays and when he decides that a certain receiver is open enough for him to get them the ball it's almost too late and he throws the ball at a spot where the receiver either has to slow down causing the defender to catch up or behind the receiver.

In the Atlanta game people want to bash Davis for not making the catch and it turning into an interception....how about JC not throwing the ball so hard on a 5 yrd pass, not throwing it too high, and not throwing it at a point behind the TE. I understand it it Davis's hands and he should have caught it, but I still think JC is partially to blame for not throwing the ball better, then there's the fact that we needed 22yrds and he's throwing to Davis 5yrds out with 3 defenders draped around him.

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amen SBXVII!

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[quote=44Deezel;623268][B]During the greatest stretch of his pro career, he had 8 TDs in 8 games.[/B] Stellar? Yawn. Despite his limitations, I'd actually like to see the Skins re-sign Campbell and use their first pick to draft a QB. They can re-build the O line with their other draft picks and via free agency. [B]Maybe Campbell will step up like Drew Brees did when the Chargers drafted Philip Rivers. [/B]

We'd have a much improved JC and a rookie QB drafted in the top 10. Win-win![/quote]

Yeah a 1 td per game avg is awesome :) but it kindof takes away some of the luster when a rook QB on a team as bad as Tampa can come in and throw 3 td's in his 1st yr in the system, 1st start.
Brees was good in SD, its not like he was a scrub and then the light came on when he got to N.O

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What gets me is that the kind of play we are getting out of Campbell thus far has been IDENTICAL to Mark Brunell during his final year as the starter.

He was blamed for not throwing the deep ball and always throwing the checkdown. Allegedly the line was horrible then too. It seems like for as long as i can remember, the redskins have had a horrible O-line.

Nobody is screaming bench Campbell, but they were screaming to bench Brunell when he did the same exact stuff. He actually had 8 TD's through 6 games in 2006, and when Jason had 1 TD per game, he was playing at a career level....go figure.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;623775]What gets me is that the kind of play we are getting out of Campbell thus far has been IDENTICAL to Mark Brunell during his final year as the starter.

He was blamed for not throwing the deep ball and always throwing the checkdown. Allegedly the line was horrible then too. It seems like for as long as i can remember, the redskins have had a horrible O-line.

Nobody is screaming bench Campbell, but they were screaming to bench Brunell when he did the same exact stuff. He actually had 8 TD's through 6 games in 2006, and when Jason had 1 TD per game, he was playing at a career level....go figure.[/quote]

Brunnell never had a "horrible" line. Not even close.

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[quote=44Deezel;623268]During the greatest stretch of his pro career, he had 8 TDs in 8 games. Stellar? Yawn. Despite his limitations, I'd actually like to see the Skins re-sign Campbell and use their first pick to draft a QB. They can re-build the O line with their other draft picks and via free agency. Maybe Campbell will step up like Drew Brees did when the Chargers drafted Philip Rivers.

We'd have a much improved JC and a rookie QB drafted in the top 10. Win-win![/quote]

I was thinking the same thing....JC is a servicable NFL quarterback, I still think he has potential even though my patience is wearing thin...he will never be great but definitely be good.

Its easy to say "replace JC" but who are we replacing him with?

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[quote=44Deezel;623268]During the greatest stretch of his pro career, he had 8 TDs in 8 games. Stellar? Yawn. Despite his limitations, I'd actually like to see the Skins re-sign Campbell and use their first pick to draft a QB. They can re-build the O line with their other draft picks and via free agency. Maybe Campbell will step up like Drew Brees did when the Chargers drafted Philip Rivers.

We'd have a much improved JC and a rookie QB drafted in the top 10. Win-win![/quote]

I agree with this, however I would prefer for us to draft a LT in 1st round and then draft a QB in 2nd round (although my ideal is to draft offense linemen in first three drafts, 1st, 2nd, and 4th) but it is a fact that we need a QB.. I have always believed in Campbell, but just like some, my patience is wearing out thin now.. To be in win-win situation, we need to resign Campbell to maybe 1 or 2 years, and find a QB to compete for #1 spot..

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Why would JC want to come back?

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[quote=SolidSnake84;623775]What gets me is that the kind of play we are getting out of Campbell thus far has been IDENTICAL to Mark Brunell during his final year as the starter.

He was blamed for not throwing the deep ball and always throwing the checkdown. Allegedly the line was horrible then too. It seems like for as long as i can remember, the redskins have had a horrible O-line.

[B]Nobody is screaming bench Campbell,[/B] but they were screaming to bench Brunell when he did the same exact stuff. He actually had 8 TD's through 6 games in 2006, and when Jason had 1 TD per game, he was playing at a career level....go figure.[/quote]

Really? [I]Nobody[/I] has been screaming to bench Campbell?

I think the big difference there is that Brunell was seen as though he had passed his prime. Campbell on the other hand was supposed to be "taking the next step."

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JC wont be back either way. Noway he resigns even IF we offer him a new contract. I believe DS has grown tired of waiting for a return on his investment that he put into JC.
Who could blame him?

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Remember, if no cba is in place, JC becomes a restricted FA, he may hold out, but he probably will be back.

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you think the FO wants him back? they tried to trade him when he was under contract,what makes you think they will keep him now that he can leave on his own?

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we would have to sign the tender on JC in the first place... We are going to get an offensive minded coach and he will have the choice to bring in the QB that he likes because Vinny will be fired.

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Thats the dream, but we have been letdown before

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;623854]you think the FO wants him back? they tried to trade him when he was under contract,what makes you think they will keep him now that he can leave on his own?[/quote]

I think they put a 3rd round tender on him, if another team wants him they let him go, otherwise he stays. He can't just leave on his own if he is a restricted free agent.

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Anyone else interested in promoting Andre Woodson from the practice squad? I liked him coming out of college but word from the Giants was he looked good in practice but lost sometimes in the preseason games. He had a 2nd round grade in early draft talk but had a poor combine and slipped to the 6th round. If Campbell keeps taking a beating he's not gonna last and we've seen what Todd can do. Should we get the youngster ready in case he's needed?

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[quote=GridIron26;623811]I agree with this, however I would prefer for us to draft a LT in 1st round and then draft a QB in 2nd round (although my ideal is to draft offense linemen in first three drafts, 1st, 2nd, and 4th) but it is a fact that we need a QB.. I have always believed in Campbell, but just like some, my patience is wearing out thin now.. To be in win-win situation, we need to resign Campbell to maybe 1 or 2 years, and find a QB to compete for #1 spot..[/quote]

2nd Round QB's have a horrible track record this past decade. If you want a QB in this league you either pick someone in the first or you hope like hell a late round guy pans out. The only 2nd round QB's that are succeeding in the league right now are Brett Farve (selected in 1992) and Drew Brees (Selected 32nd overall which today would be a 1st round pick).

Most of the time you see guys like Drew Stanton, Marques Tuiasosopo, Kevin Kolb, Kellen Clemons, Tarvaris Jackson, and Brian Brohm. Chad Henne might pan out but 2nd round QB's are even harder to turn into starters. Quincy Carter was also decent but Dallas couldn't wait to get rid of him after he failed a drug test and he never caught on again.

Anyway people can say what they want about first round QB's by they pan out a lot more frequently then their second round counterparts.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;623922]2nd Round QB's have a horrible track record this past decade. If you want a QB in this league you either pick someone in the first or you hope like hell a late round guy pans out. The only 2nd round QB's that are succeeding in the league right now are Brett Farve (selected in 1992) and Drew Brees (Selected 32nd overall which today would be a 1st round pick).

Most of the time you see guys like Drew Stanton, Kevin Kolb, Kellen Clemons, Tarvaris Jackson, and Brian Brohm. Chad Henne might pan out but 2nd round QB's are even harder to turn into starters. Quincy Carter was also decent but Dallas couldn't wait to get rid of him after he failed a drug test and he never caught on again.[/quote]

Ah I see, I wasn't aware of this track.. Well, I'm still sticking with drafting a LT in 1st round idea.. So I guess if I'm GM, I would resign Campbell and sign a best available free agent QB and let them compete.. I just don't see how can we not target a LT in 1st round, especially with our Ts situation.. We basically don't have a young healthy T that would step in if Samuels either retires or comes back then get hurt again.. And not to mention the fact that we don't have a clear cut RT neither..

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[quote=Dirtbag359;623922]2nd Round QB's have a horrible track record this past decade. If you want a QB in this league you either pick someone in the first or you hope like hell a late round guy pans out. The only 2nd round QB's that are succeeding in the league right now are Brett Farve (selected in 1992) and Drew Brees (Selected 32nd overall which today would be a 1st round pick).

Most of the time you see guys like Drew Stanton, Marques Tuiasosopo, Kevin Kolb, Kellen Clemons, Tarvaris Jackson, and Brian Brohm. Chad Henne might pan out but 2nd round QB's are even harder to turn into starters. Quincy Carter was also decent but Dallas couldn't wait to get rid of him after he failed a drug test and he never caught on again.

Anyway people can say what they want about first round QB's by they pan out a lot more frequently then their second round counterparts.[/quote]

while i agree for the most part qb's are deep this year in the draft and you could probably pick one up in the 2nd round this year, and kolb was pretty money the games he played this year, i wouldn't be surprised if he starts some where next year or goes some where where he has a chance to compete for the starting job

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[quote=mlmdub130;623925]while i agree for the most part qb's are deep this year in the draft and you could probably pick one up in the 2nd round this year, and kolb was pretty money the games he played this year, i wouldn't be surprised if he starts some where next year or goes some where where he has a chance to compete for the starting job[/quote]

2nd Round QBs in the past 5 years:
2009 - Pat White
2008 - Chad Henne, Brian Brohm
2007 - Kevin Kolb, Drew Stanton
2006 - Kellen Clemens, Tavaris Jackson
2005 - None Taken

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I like Chad Henne, he has done ok considering his wrs dont do him any Justice. How many drops on a 1st down throw? Ginn has to step up and take the number 1 role. If not the Phins willbe in the market this offseason.

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[quote=Ruhskins;623935]2nd Round QBs in the past 5 years:
2009 - Pat White
2008 - Chad Henne, Brian Brohm
2007 - Kevin Kolb, Drew Stanton
2006 - Kellen Clemens, Tavaris Jackson
2005 - None Taken[/quote]

i still think this is one of the deepest group of qb's coming out in the past 5 years, there are probably 4 to 5 first rounders

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[quote=mlmdub130;623946]i still think this is one of the deepest group of qb's coming out in the past 5 years, there are probably 4 to 5 first rounders[/quote]

Huh? There are probably 4 to 5 first rounders that were drafted in the 2nd round and have done nothing of note? Please elaborate.

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[quote=Paintrain;623994]Huh? There are probably 4 to 5 first rounders that were drafted in the 2nd round and have done nothing of note? Please elaborate.[/quote]Think he was talking about the upcoming draft.

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[quote=GTripp0012;624153]Think he was talking about the upcoming draft.[/quote]

yeah i am, they are saying mccoy could fall to mid second round right now, this will be a very stocked year as far as college qb prospects

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[quote=mlmdub130;624157]yeah i am, they are saying mccoy could fall to mid second round right now, this will be a very stocked year as far as college qb prospects[/quote]

Mel Kiper said this in his [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=4645506"]latest piece[/URL]:

[quote]In terms of his pro potential -- which is still significant -- I think the bigger issue is he's a really tough evaluation for NFL people. I'd compare him to a Jake Plummer. He doesn't have a big arm, he doesn't have a big body, he can run but he's not some kind of elite athlete. But he flat out won't blow anybody away in terms of what he does in workouts. He'll need to stand on what he's done on the field. That's a lot, but it might not be first-round material at this point.

I see McCoy as a second-round guy, which is a fine place to land for him -- also right where Plummer went. He's still on the Big Board because I think that highly of him, but we know quarterback is a position of need, so the draft will often be a different story.[/quote]