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I wish I had sources like you guys :(

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I feel like LB might just end up being a weakness for the D. We managed to cover it up a bit last year, so with AH maybe we can cover it up again. RT has to addressed via the draft either with #13 or in round 3 if the top 4 are gone. DE can be a rotation and the 3rd rounder (if we get an OT in 1). It can also be #13 if the to 4 are gone. Seems like the way we are heading.

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[quote=cobracai1;535310]Thanks for the update. The only source (if you can really call him one) I have with any relevant news basically said that they don't feel the need to sign a guy just to sign him. I predict a run at O-linemen like we did last year with receivers. It seems our FO targets a need and goes for the kill and I don't mean that in a negative way. Lets just hope one of the 4 are there and we can get a cost effective solution at SLB at least for this year.[/quote]


Cobra - one update that has some impact on Barnes - the Jaguars just signed Tra Thomas to a deal so they will not retain Barnes. I don't know if the Eagles were ever interested in Barnes, but if they are not I would think the Tra Thomas signing weakens the amount of money Barnes can ask for with the Jags out of the running.....



[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9313870/Jaguars,-Pro-Bowl-OT-Thomas-agree-to-terms?MSNHPHMA]FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Jaguars, Pro Bowl OT Thomas agree to terms[/url]

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[quote=Bill B;535398]Cobra - one update that has some impact on Barnes - the Jaguars just signed Tra Thomas to a deal so they will not retain Barnes. I don't know if the Eagles were ever interested in Barnes, but if they are not I would think the Tra Thomas signing weakens the amount of money Barnes can ask for with the Jags out of the running.....



[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9313870/Jaguars,-Pro-Bowl-OT-Thomas-agree-to-terms?MSNHPHMA]FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Jaguars, Pro Bowl OT Thomas agree to terms[/url][/quote]

Yea I saw that, thanks. I don't think the question ever was whether the Jaguars would retain him or not. From what I heard, Del Rio is not very high on him and add in the fact that he wants LT type money it wasn't gonna happen. I do think that he overvalued himself in the start of free agency or he'd be gone by now.

I think I'm intrigued because he really was a physical specimen coming out of college and I think all he needs is coaching up and a move to the right side. NOT for LT money but I think he would be an above average RT if Buges got his hands on him. And he is only 27 years old. And don't forget he blocked for both Fred Taylor and MJD. I know he's not great on an island pass protecting the blind side but he won't have to do that on the right. Still I don't think we have much interest there. I think we're banking on the draft (which isn't necessarily a bad thing).

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[quote=The Goat;535169]I thought we we're limited on money now. About $9 mill in cap room and we've got LDE to address and a couple FA who were on our roster last year to re-sign and then the rookies... how much do u think we could reasonably offer Barnes?

... and what do you think of him for RT?[/quote]

Goat, People tap danced around your question. I feel that if they could get Haynesworth with the 14 mill they had available then they most certainly figure out how to get Barnes with the 9 mill they have now. Also keep in mind they kept Hall also with that 14 mill. I think Barnes is playing both teams against each other if he went back to the Raiders asking for them to match something we offered.

I find it funny that last week we heard both Willis and Barnes were coming to the Skins for interviews. Then this morning I read that a Redskin official said no Barnes was not brought in over the weekend and no FA's have been scheduled to meet with them. Then by afternoon I read Barnes had an oppointment with the Skins today. What gives? Did he, Does he, or Does he not?

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Sorry I guess I'm getting Barnes and Brown mixed up. Although Barnes was turned down by the Raiders cause they can't or won't pay what he wants.

[B]RAIDERS EXIT KHALIF BARNES CHASE FOR GOOD[/B]
[B]Posted by Mike Florio on March 9, 2009, 5:14 p.m. [/B]
[B]After remaining a long-shot possible destination for Jaguars free-agent tackle Khalif Barnes, the Oakland Raiders have decided to call it quits.[/B]

[B]According to RaiderBeat.com, the team no longer is interested in signing Barnes.[/B]

[B]Multiple reports last week linked the former University of Washington lineman to Oakland.[/B]

[B]His agent, Kenny Zuckerman, has said that unnamed teams are interested in him, but Zuckerman has not identified any of the other supposedly interested teams.[/B]

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/03/elton_brown_set_to_visit_redsk.html"]Elton Brown Set to Visit Redskins Park Today - Redskins Insider[/URL]

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This is per news on main page under "Confirmed no Willis or Brown for Skins.":

[B]Cerrato also denied a report that Arizona Cardinals offensive lineman Elton Brown visited the Redskins last week. Cerrato said that as of now, no free agents are scheduled to visit this week.

- David Elfin[/B]

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[quote=SBXVII;535424]Sorry I guess I'm getting Barnes and Brown mixed up. Although Barnes was turned down by the Raiders cause they can't or won't pay what he wants.

[B]RAIDERS EXIT KHALIF BARNES CHASE FOR GOOD[/B]
[B]Posted by Mike Florio on March 9, 2009, 5:14 p.m. [/B]
[B]After remaining a long-shot possible destination for Jaguars free-agent tackle Khalif Barnes, the Oakland Raiders have decided to call it quits.[/B]

[B]According to RaiderBeat.com, the team no longer is interested in signing Barnes.[/B]

[B]Multiple reports last week linked the former University of Washington lineman to Oakland.[/B]

[B]His agent, Kenny Zuckerman, has said that unnamed teams are interested in him, but Zuckerman has not identified any of the other supposedly interested teams.[/B]

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/03/elton_brown_set_to_visit_redsk.html"]Elton Brown Set to Visit Redskins Park Today - Redskins Insider[/URL][/quote]
So does anyone know if we are looking at Barnes? And what is the overall opinion of him. I think I have gotten Brown, Willis and Barnes all jumbled in my mind. Would any one of them been worth it for us?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;535426]So does anyone know if we are looking at Barnes? And what is the overall opinion of him. I think I have gotten Brown, Willis and Barnes all jumbled in my mind. Would any one of them been worth it for us?[/quote]

I think all of them would have been of value to us (not saying we should have signed all three, just that each one of them could have helped). Willis and Barnes could have both stepped in and most likely started at RT. Brown would be good young depth and he can play guard and tackle.

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For those of you who were wondering about Barnes, here is a little update
[url=http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/09/bucs-pursuing-barnes/]ProFootballTalk.com - BUCS PURSUING BARNES[/url]

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I doubt we sign Barnes or any other OT before the draft. If one of the top 4 falls to us then Barnes is useless... if none of them fall to us I think there will be some "new" talent on the market then... like Levi Jones. Who knows maybe Barnes will still be available and we'll have some talent to choose from.

To all the doubters... we're gonna be ok. We'll have a nice roster by the time OTA's start and undoubtedly more depth on both lines than we've had in at least a few years.

Hail!

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[quote=The Goat;535438]I doubt we sign Barnes or any other OT before the draft. If one of the top 4 falls to us then Barnes is useless... if none of them fall to us I think there will be some "new" talent on the market then... like Levi Jones. Who knows maybe Barnes will still be available and we'll have some talent to choose from.

To all the doubters... we're gonna be ok. We'll have a nice roster by the time OTA's start and undoubtedly more depth on both lines than we've had in at least a few years.

Hail![/quote]

Getting Barnes has little to do with drafting an OT at number 13 in my opinion. Samuels is 32 and is on the decline. Hopefully one of the big4 fall to us then we have our LT for the next ten years. But don't forget that Barnes is only 27 and could hold down the RT position for the next 5-6 years. Considering our needs and how many draft picks we have, we need to sign more linemen in my opinion. Barnes would be great but we need some talented youth outside of the draft to have enough depth.

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[quote=cobracai1;535442]Getting Barnes has little to do with drafting an OT at number 13 in my opinion. Samuels is 32 and is on the decline. Hopefully one of the big4 fall to us then we have our LT for the next ten years. But don't forget that Barnes is only 27 and could hold down the RT position for the next 5-6 years. Considering our needs and how many draft picks we have, we need to sign more linemen in my opinion. Barnes would be great but we need some talented youth outside of the draft to have enough depth.[/quote]

Take a look at Scheed's/CC's cap sheet... Samuels will be with us for a long time. Yes he got nicked up last year and struggled a bit, but Samuels is still a franchise LT and could easily transition to RT and be dominant there for awhile. Again like I said he's here to stay at least through 2012 and will be a solid starter at one of the two tackle positions till then... so I doubt we take a top OT in the draft and also spend on Barnes, Jones, etc.

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I see what you're saying. But after this year Jansen is gone. And if Heyer doesn't pan out we are not gonna resign him. Im not necessarily saying that we NEED to get Barnes. Just that we do need to start considering the future. Samuels might be on the books but if his play drops off a la Jansen, then we need to do something and I thought it would be nice to have people who could step in pretty seamlessly. Anyways, I am in the majority in that I do not want a sequel to last year where we just didn't have the depth to continue.

My rant is officially over

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So explain to me an we aren't going after donald Penn whose a RFA for the bucs, and was there starting LT who allowed very few sacks this year, and didn't allow a demarcus ware sack at all...???

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Heres the deal. If Andre Smith or Michael Oher fall to us we probably need to take one of them and then hope that out of the deep group of OLB's one of the 80's prospects falls to us in the third round. It's definitely possible to what with 3 guys with first round grades and then four guys with second round grades. Plus last year Dan Conner and Tavares Gooden were graded as late first, early second round prospects and both ended up lasting till the third round and there weren't nearly as many linebacker prospects last year as there are this year.

Still I really wish the team would sign a guy like Barnes and enable themselves to draft Maualuga as well as a guy like Loadholt or Fenuki Tupou.