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[quote=Redskin Jim;543425]Agreed,[B] I would love to have Rey flying at the ball on a blitz ala Palamalu[/B].[/quote]

:laughing- Tony Romo here I come! Yeah baby! :woot:

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[quote=53fan;543426]:laughing- tony romo here i come! Yeah baby! :woot:[/quote]i love it!!!!!

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With Haynesworth up front taking on the blockers, Rey-Rey would have a field day. Look for Fletch to have even more tackles than last year.

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[quote=53Fan;543429]With Haynesworth up front taking on the blockers, Rey-Rey would have a field day. Look for Fletch to have even more tackles than last year.[/quote]
Good call, Fletcher is a beast, I hope he can stay healthy. He IS the workhorse for our defense, I hope AH turns out to be as productive a free agent as Fletch has been.

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I hope so. If all our FA signings turned out to be as productive as Fletch, we'd be in the Super Bowl every year. :)

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[quote=53Fan;543384]Rocky is our WLB, Marcus was our SLB. TE's block as much as they catch passes and are not as fast as RB's or slot receivers. Plus TE's are bigger and stronger. If a safety is converted to a LB, he would usually go to WLB to take more advantage of his coverage skills and usually smaller size than the SLB. (RB's and slot receivers are faster/harder to cover than TE's) and the SLB would be used more to block/cover the TE who is stronger but not as swift as a RB/slot receiver. [B]Think of it this way Nick, the SLB is usually lined up across from the TE. So wouldn't it make more sense for him to cover the TE than the WLB who is lined up on the other side of the field?[/B] Strongside LB is called strongside because he lines up on the strongside of the o-line. The strongside of the o-line becomes the strongside because it has an extra player on that side, the TE. It's 4:42 am and I'm not fully awake yet, but, doe's that help? Usually the SLB get's safety help over the top to help on deeper coverage. No one is saying a WLB can't cover. He usually takes on the RB's/FB's coming out of the backfield and slot receivers like Wes Welker of NE.[/quote]

Well said bro...I'm on the same page as you. I think the caveat to our LB in coverage issue is it always seemed like our SLB, Marcus, got stuck covering way more than our other LBs. Maybe teams purposefully targeted him cuz he's lost a step, but then again I believe Randall Godfrey also was in coverage more than the other two when he played last year.

...it's sort of seems like, while yes the WLB must be able to cover quicker RBs and slot WRs, our SLB is the guy more commonly stuck in coverage based on playcalling of opposing offenses(?).

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Maualuga would be the USC linebacker that I would pick. His explosiveness, effort, and football IQ would be the main reasons. The only thing I would question in comparison to the other 2 would be his workout habits - does he work in the weight room because I think this plays a part to being a good linebacker.

Cushing looked good to me early on, but I am suspicious that this guy is a serious steriod user. No definitive proof, but there isn't any reports anywhere explaining his unbelievable mass growth (44%) from his college freshman year. I think I'd be fine with him, if there would be some reasonable explanation for this.

Matthews's strength as a prospect is his potential. I wouldn't draft a guy in the first round based on potential without the production to back it up; that wouldn't make any sense IMO.

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FYI

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-combinedrugs040309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns]Sources: NFL doctor tells players they are clean - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;543450]FYI

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-combinedrugs040309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns]Sources: NFL doctor tells players they are clean - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url][/quote]

Thanks SS! I hate BS rumors.

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I think maualuga is another name we can take off the list of people the skins will get, along with mack..I say this, because:
A) maualuga is projected to be picked until the mid to late first round so we don't need to get someone that high
B) we have a MLB already and one in waiting, Blades,
C) we need OLine first (OT)
D) if we get a LB it will be an OLB
E) maualuga hasn't ever played OLB so that would be risky to put him there right away as a rookie
F) the skins have brought in Other LBs, and from what I remember they haven't brought Him in for a private workout which they have done for Matthews
G) if they go off a prospects combine numbers, his aren't anything spectacular
H) he's been known to leave the fields on third down, so your paying millions for a two down backer

Don't get me wrong, I like him,and I think he's the equivalent of troy polamalu at LB, it's just that we have other needs, specifically OT, he will be a great linebacker, but unless otherwise, I think he'll be somewhere else unless all four OTs are gone and so is Matthews (who is very high on the texans draftboard, so maybe we could threaten them that we'll draft him at 13 and force them to swap picks with them @ 15 and get their 2nd rounder) but I would be looking t someone else and quit the maualuga talks along with the alex mack talks

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There is no way the Texans are going to give us a 1rst and 2nd to move up 2 spots bubba.

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.. Or give us a third instead of a second I don't know I'd have to look at the draft value chart

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With June and Buster Davis on board now, Texans may not be as high on Matthews anymore

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Possibly, but those guys are just short term options I believe, and they still have an LB spot open because there LBs are June, Ryans, ?, if they don't get an LB it'll be a corner but Matthews has an uncle that works for the texans so he could definitley go there

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[quote=Nflnick11;543544]Possibly, but those guys are just short term options I believe, and they still have an LB spot open because there LBs are June, Ryans, ?, if they don't get an LB it'll be a corner but Matthews has an uncle that works for the texans so he could definitley go there[/quote]

They also have Buster Davis, Xavier Adibi, and Kevin Bentley

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[quote=SmootSmack;543553]They also have Buster Davis, Xavier Adibi, and Kevin Bentley[/quote]

Their all not good or unproven (adibi)

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Even though he is the most unproven player, I would take Matthews because he is the most athletic. No knock on Mauluga but we have nowhwere to put him in defense right now, with Fletcher being there. Cushing looks like to much of a pretty boy and at times looks soft on the field. Matthews has the best cover skillls of the 3 and is a hard worker seeing that he was a walk-on special teams player @ 190 pounds(now a solid 245) and earned a starting spot, plus he has his dad and uncle to teach him to how to play at the NFL level.

If we take a LB @ 13, take Matthews!!!!!

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The redskins have scheduled private workouts with Matthews AND maualuga, according to CK blog

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Cushing has supposedly dropped out of the first Round according to mel kiper and Todd McGay

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[quote=Nflnick11;544272]Cushing has supposedly dropped out of the first Round according to mel kiper and Todd McGay[/quote]

I think their (Kiper and McCay) analysis is accurate. Cushing's fundamentals are highly questionable IMO. He often loses his feet and the point of contact and ends up dragging the RB down using his mass. In the NFL, especially the NFC east, bigger stronger opponents will shed him or run over him. I think he is the worst USC prospect and would be just floored if we take him at all.

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[quote=The Goat;544287]I think their (Kiper and McCay) analysis is accurate. Cushing's fundamentals are highly questionable IMO. He often loses his feet and the point of contact and ends up dragging the RB down using his mass. In the NFL, especially the NFC east, bigger stronger opponents will shed him or run over him. I think he is the worst USC prospect and would be just floored if we take him at all.[/quote]
Agreed, after seeing the USC pro day workout, these were my thoughts exactly..

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Gary Fitzgerald of Redskins.com on which USC LB he would choose at #13. "I can see Maualuga as the next Brian Urlacher or Ray Lewis. The Redskins could play him at outside linebacker until London Fletcher is ready to retire or move on. Maualuga is also a fiery, intense leader and he is the kind of linebacker who can set the tone for a defense."

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[quote=53Fan;544865]Gary Fitzgerald of Redskins.com on which USC LB he would choose at #13. "I can see Maualuga as the next Brian Urlacher or Ray Lewis. The Redskins could play him at outside linebacker until London Fletcher is ready to retire or move on. Maualuga is also a fiery, intense leader and he is the kind of linebacker who can set the tone for a defense."[/quote]

A lot of people say this but it wouldn't matter what we think it's what the two and a half men that run the skins think of him...BTW if you get cox go to the on demand and go to the free zone the NFL network then go to draft and check out all the USC LBs profiles, it makes me want to get Matthews more judging by some of his picks

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[quote=Nflnick11;544874]A lot of people say this but it wouldn't matter what we think it's what the two and a half men that run the skins think of him...BTW if you get cox go to the on demand and go to the free zone the NFL network then go to draft and check out all the USC LBs profiles, it makes me want to get Matthews more judging by some of his picks[/quote]

I had on demand taken out because it seemed the local affiliate that carried the Skins games always went out around game time. I don't have a problem with Matthews or Maualuga. I like both better than Cushing. But why should I check it out anyway Nick if it doesn't matter what anyone thinks but the two and a half men that run the Skins? :)

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[quote=53Fan;544878]I had on demand taken out because it seemed the local affiliate that carried the Skins games always went out around game time. I don't have a problem with Matthews or Maualuga. I like both better than Cushing. But why should I check it out anyway Nick if it doesn't matter what anyone thinks but the two and a half men that run the Skins? :)[/quote]

Haha for your own imagination I guess, good point

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Looking back on it I think we need to take a moment and see what happened during the 2000 draft. We had two early first round picks with two dominant college players that filled positions of need. The first guy was a dominant linebacker that free lanced a little more then most still he had the potential to dominate the game, some even compared him to Lawrence Taylor. The second guy was a potential franchise LT. Years later the talented Linebacker is gone while the LT continues to make a name for himself.

In light of this history leason I think we need to take the best available Tackle instead of any of a potential game changing LB. The situation just seems all to similar to 2000 minus the two first round picks. So if the pick boils down to Rey vs Oher or Smith then I think we go with whatever leftovers we get from the Big 4.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;545000]Looking back on it I think we need to take a moment and see what happened during the 2000 draft. We had two early first round picks with two dominant college players that filled positions of need. The first guy was a dominant linebacker that free lanced a little more then most still he had the potential to dominate the game, some even compared him to Lawrence Taylor. The second guy was a potential franchise LT. Years later the talented Linebacker is gone while the LT continues to make a name for himself.

In light of this history leason I think we need to take the best available Tackle instead of any of a potential game changing LB. The situation just seems all to similar to 2000 minus the two first round picks. So if the pick boils down to Rey vs Oher or Smith then I think we go with whatever leftovers we get from the Big 4.[/quote]

Ya but lavar did give us a solid good 6 years here so I wouldn't say he was a busted or assume that you couldn't take an LB ever again in the first round

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Most truly dominant LBs, especially MLBs are 1st rounders as are dominant LTs. Evaluating talent is the real issue. If teams like NE are seriously considering a trade up to draft Rey, or another player maybe, we ought to be taking a good look at that guy.

...mocks have Rey falling into the 20's. I will be more surprised by that than Vinny taking Sanchez at 13. The top MLB and hardest hitter in the draft, when teams like Denver, Jax, San Diego and a few others are desperate for a monster in the middle and pick early.

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[quote=Nflnick11;545109]Ya but lavar did give us a solid good 6 years here so I wouldn't say he was a busted or assume that you couldn't take an LB ever again in the first round[/quote]

I'm not saying he busted exactly. Well techincally by the standard a lot of people held him to he did but he was still a great player. My point is we've benefited much more from having Samuals during this time then we did from having LaVar. If we can find another Tackle then he'll probably last longer then a linebacker, especially a headhunter like Rey (not that thats a bad thing being a headhunter).

On top of that Rey has slight durability issues (4 on Scouts inc scale with 1 being the best). The two tackles we're looking at most closely, Oher and Smith, scored 1 and 2 respectively. It really is a similar situation except this time we don't have two picks to get both of them (LB and T).

Another similar situation to ours was the 2005 draft at pick 13. The Saints were choosing between Derick Johnson and Jamaal Brown. In the end they took the Tackle who ended up going to the pro bowl. Derrick Johnson has been good but he's not as good a LB as Brown is a Tackle. And I would have thought coming out of the draft that Johnson clearly would have been viewed as the better player, but you live and you learn.

Of course it doesn't always work this way. You got possibly a tie or win by AJ Hawk over D'Brickashaw Fergusion. And last year Jerod Mayo did better then Ryan Clady, though Clady still did very good. However those haven't gone through the time test that Lavar vs Samuals went through.

So when you Lobby this April, lobby for a tackle. They last longer.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;545124]I'm not saying he busted exactly. Well techincally by the standard a lot of people held him to he did but he was still a great player. My point is we've benefited much more from having Samuals during this time then we did from having LaVar. If we can find another Tackle then he'll probably last longer then a linebacker, especially a headhunter like Rey (not that thats a bad thing being a headhunter).

On top of that Rey has slight durability issues (4 on Scouts inc scale with 1 being the best). The two tackles we're looking at most closely, Oher and Smith, scored 1 and 2 respectively. It really is a similar situation except this time we don't have two picks to get both of them (LB and T).

Another similar situation to ours was the 2005 draft at pick 13. The Saints were choosing between Derick Johnson and Jamaal Brown. In the end they took the Tackle who ended up going to the pro bowl. Derrick Johnson has been good but he's not as good a LB as Brown is a Tackle. And I would have thought coming out of the draft that Johnson clearly would have been viewed as the better player, but you live and you learn.

Of course it doesn't always work this way. You got possibly a tie or win by AJ Hawk over D'Brickashaw Fergusion. And last year Jerod Mayo did better then Ryan Clady, though Clady still did very good. However those haven't gone through the time test that Lavar vs Samuals went through.

So when you Lobby this April, lobby for a tackle. They last longer.[/quote]

Very good point, go LT first

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[quote=Dirtbag359;545124]I'm not saying he busted exactly. Well techincally by the standard a lot of people held him to he did but he was still a great player. My point is we've benefited much more from having Samuals during this time then we did from having LaVar. If we can find another Tackle then he'll probably last longer then a linebacker, especially a headhunter like Rey (not that thats a bad thing being a headhunter).

On top of that Rey has slight durability issues (4 on Scouts inc scale with 1 being the best). The two tackles we're looking at most closely, Oher and Smith, scored 1 and 2 respectively. It really is a similar situation except this time we don't have two picks to get both of them (LB and T).

Another similar situation to ours was the 2005 draft at pick 13. The Saints were choosing between Derick Johnson and Jamaal Brown. In the end they took the Tackle who ended up going to the pro bowl. Derrick Johnson has been good but he's not as good a LB as Brown is a Tackle. And I would have thought coming out of the draft that Johnson clearly would have been viewed as the better player, but you live and you learn.

Of course it doesn't always work this way. You got possibly a tie or win by AJ Hawk over D'Brickashaw Fergusion. And last year Jerod Mayo did better then Ryan Clady, though Clady still did very good. However those haven't gone through the time test that Lavar vs Samuals went through.

So when you Lobby this April, lobby for a tackle. They last longer.[/quote]

Well put. I would add that the needs of the offense appear greater than the needs of the defense.

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Kaluka Maiava if we could get him with a 2nd day pick

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Just saw that Brian Cushing is attending the draft even though his stock is down. He could be hanging around until real late. He'll likely fall to the 20's if he is lucky and could go even later. He could likely be the third LB taken from his own school. Ouch, someone isn't giving that guy good advice.

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Well guess who we brought in today who I'm surprised people aren't posting all about him...Rey maualuga

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[quote=Nflnick11;545659]Well guess who we brought in today who I'm surprised people aren't posting all about him...Rey maualuga[/quote]

Agreed, I was expecting a Maualuga-orgy thread with a whole bunch of posts about it.

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[quote=Ruhskins;545660]Agreed, I was expecting a Maualuga-orgy thread with a whole bunch of posts about it.[/quote]

Haha especially for a guy I doubt we get...they brought in Matthews way before rey which tells me he's higher on our board...but then again wouldn't mind getting rey he's special....anyone BUT sanchez and I'll be happy

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;545576]Just saw that Brian Cushing is attending the draft even though his stock is down. He could be hanging around until real late. He'll likely fall to the 20's if he is lucky and could go even later. He could likely be the third LB taken from his own school. Ouch, someone isn't giving that guy good advice.[/quote]

Yeah, no kidding. That poor boy might go early but also might hang around the green room for some time. No offense to him but I can't understand why they chose him to invite. They may have set him up for torture.

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[quote=Ruhskins;545660]Agreed, I was expecting a Maualuga-orgy thread with a whole bunch of posts about it.[/quote]

I held my own orgy thank you :)

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[quote=Lotus;545691]Yeah, no kidding. That poor boy might go early but also might hang around the green room for some time. No offense to him but I can't understand why they chose him to invite. They may have set him up for torture.[/quote]

Or he could be at Redskins Park the Monday after the NFL Draft

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[quote=SmootSmack;545700]Or he could be at Redskins Park the Monday after the NFL Draft[/quote]

Worst case scenario IMO.