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[quote=stu_nna;584763]wow Bridges got cut? Larry Michael was so high on him[/quote]

Didn't he start 16 games for the Panthers last year and didn't they have a ridiculous running game? I thought he was a shoe-in.

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[quote=GMScud;584900]BTW the fact that we have PJ5 Avatars at this point is hysterical.[/quote]

He will rise again.

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A few choices shocked me: Batiste and M. Williams on the oline. I just remember during a preseason game thinking, man this guy Batiste sure got beat good. Good thing he'll never play. I guess they are thinking potential w/ MW. The problem is we don't have time for potential.

I'm not really too confident in our backup LBs. Blades, Wilson (a converted DE), Thomas. Hope no one gets hurt...yea.

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It seemed to me that Dixon was making enough plays to sneak on. Wynn though, I guess the game films showed something I didn't see.

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[quote=Beemnseven;584918]It seemed to me that Dixon was making enough plays to sneak on. Wynn though, I guess the game films showed something I didn't see.[/quote]

yeah, he showed that a Rook RT can put him on his arse. I cant believe we kept him over some of the other guys we cut.

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[quote=GMScud;584900]BTW the fact that we have PJ5 Avatars at this point is hysterical.[/quote]

If thats the case im sure we could make an arguement for half of the avatars on here.

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[quote=Beemnseven;584918]It seemed to me that Dixon was making enough plays to sneak on. Wynn though, I guess the game films showed something I didn't see.[/quote]

Yeah i thought Dixon was making it, can't beleive we kept Wynn didn't hear anything about him in any preseason games i guess no new is good news when it comes to Wynn.

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[quote=Beemnseven;584918]It seemed to me that Dixon was making enough plays to sneak on. Wynn though, [B]I guess the game films showed[/B] [B]something I didn't see[/B].[/quote]
Wynn probably made the team for what he does in the locker room more then his play. and he is not really that bad against the run

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Both of my guys made it Mason and Westbrook... In ur face 2 all those who doubted Westbrook, I told ya so haha, lol! check the record I made that call... I was getting hammered when I said it

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[quote=diehardskin2982;584933]Both of my guys made it Mason and Westbrook... In ur face 2 all those who doubted Westbrook, I told ya so haha, lol! check the record I made that call... I was getting hammered when I said it[/quote]

You can count me as one of those doubters. I mean for 3 yrs he's shown Jack $#!% and figured he would or atleast should be cut. I was supprised at how he stepped up in this yrs preseason and even ate crow saying he actually looked good. Here's hoping he keeps up the good work cause we may need it.

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On another note I think this was a good article....It too mentions the cutting ties with Colt that I mentioned in another thread.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/7248/redskins-cutdown-analysis-2]Redskins: Cutdown analysis - NFL Nation - ESPN[/url]

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You cant tell me that there is not a better CB out there than Westbrook.

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[quote=SBXVII;584953]On another note I think this was a good article....It too mentions the cutting ties with Colt that I mentioned in another thread.

[URL="http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/7248/redskins-cutdown-analysis-2"]Redskins: Cutdown analysis - NFL Nation - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

Sometimes I really wonder if Mosley knows what he's talking about.

Mason a change of pace back?

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[quote=T.O.Killa;584954]You cant tell me that there is not a better CB out there than Westbrook.[/quote]

LOL, I didn't say that....I just said I was mildly suprised he did better then I expected. Since we kept him on the roster he still needs to step up with the big boys and play like one or he will be a late cut.

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[quote=Mattyk72;584957]Sometimes I really wonder if Mosley knows what he's talking about.

Mason a change of pace back?[/quote]

Or, how about this:

[quote]The Redskins are old at defensive end. Vinny Cerrato should take a peek around and see if any talented, young pass-rushers were released.[/quote]

This is the deepest we've been with pass rushers in years. Andre Carter isn't old. Then we've got Orakpo, Chris Wilson, and Jeremy Jarmon who can all line up at the end position and go after the QB.

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[quote=Mattyk72;584957]Sometimes I really wonder if Mosley knows what he's talking about.

Mason a change of pace back?[/quote]
Yeah, he knows very little. Buzbee tore his achillies, not his knee. Tryon was picked fourth last year, he was better than Barnes and Westbrook period. If they can cut Cody after one camp, they could cut Tryon after two years. And old at DE is stupid. This team has gotten young quick.

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[quote=Beemnseven;584962]Or, how about this:



This is the deepest we've been with pass rushers in years. Andre Carter isn't old. Then we've got Orakpo, Chris Wilson, and Jeremy Jarmon who can all line up at the end position and go after the QB.[/quote]

Yeah he's way off with his assessment.

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Mosley is too obsessed with Vick to notice what's happening with the Redskins.

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[quote=Mattyk72;584957]Sometimes I really wonder if Mosley knows what he's talking about.

Mason a change of pace back?[/quote]

Seriously. Also, "you knew Mason was gonna make this team as the fourth running back." Really? I sure as heck didn't know that. I think the majority of us were really up in the air about the RB situation actually.

The "old DE's" comment is dumb. Granted we probably shouldn't have kept Wynn (and frankly he may not make it very far into the season for us), but I sure wouldn't call us old.

The one thing I really agreed with was calling Cody Glenn a head scratcher. I was miffed when we passed up Javon Ringer (now he's change of pace back) for him. Glenn only played like 9 college games at the LB position. To take him at all, let alone as early as the 5th round was stupid. I hated the move at the time, and I hate it even more now.

At least Marko Mitchell's emergence takes some sting off of the Glenn thing.

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[quote=GMScud;584983]Seriously. Also, "you knew Mason was gonna make this team as the fourth running back." Really? I sure as heck didn't know that. I think the majority of us were really up in the air about the RB situation actually.

The "old DE's" comment is dumb. Granted we probably shouldn't have kept Wynn (and frankly he may not make it very far into the season for us), but I sure wouldn't call us old.

The one thing I really agreed with was calling Cody Glenn a head scratcher. [B]I was miffed when we passed up Javon Ringer (now he's change of pace back) for him.[/B] Glenn only played like 9 college games at the LB position. To take him at all, let alone as early as the 5th round was stupid. I hated the move at the time, and I hate it even more now.

At least Marko Mitchell's emergence takes some sting off of the Glenn thing.[/quote]

I too wish we had drafted Ringer instead of Glenn.

However, Ringer ran only a 4.6 40 at the combine. He's not fast enough to be a true change of pace back.

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[quote=Lotus;584984]I too wish we had drafted Ringer instead of Glenn.

However, Ringer ran only a 4.6 40 at the combine. He's not fast enough to be a true change of pace back.[/quote]

That 40 time was overblown. He's a burner. If you ever watched him at Mich St, dude can fly. Plus he's small and compact, and super strong. At 5-9, 210 he can bench over 500. He's almost Orakpo strong. Regardless he would have been a better pick than Glenn.

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Why is Lorenzo Alexander still on the squad? We know about his versatility on both sides of the ball but, A guy like Antonio Dixon seemed to have more upside as a DT and Alexander surely isn't our answer to OL depth. And Anthony Batiste backing up Samuels (see current depth chart)? I know Heyer can swing to LT and possibly Mike Williams can then step in and man RT but, we still look a little thin as far as quality depth. I'll say it again, Williams won't be great at pass blocking. Hopefully I'm wrong.

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[quote=Lotus;584981]Mosley is too obsessed with Vick to notice what's happening with the Redskins.[/quote]

And the Cowboys

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I don't think Wynn's spot was ever in question. It's one thing to say, "we could make a small push towards the future" and force Jarmon to take on a bigger role as a rookie instead of through development, while Wynn's spot goes to Darrel Young or Rob Jackson. But it's a completely different thing to act like he was fighting for a roster spot. He never was.

It's confusing the concept of being replaceable with the assumption that he's useless.

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[quote=GTripp0012;585006]I don't think Wynn's spot was ever in question. It's one thing to say, "we could make a small push towards the future" and force Jarmon to take on a bigger role as a rookie instead of through development, while Wynn's spot goes to Darrel Young or Rob Jackson. But it's a completely different thing to act like he was fighting for a roster spot. He never was.

It's confusing the concept of being replaceable with the assumption that he's useless.[/quote]


To me Wynn is useless. I have no idea how he made the team.

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I think Warrick Dunn might be able to help this team. I thought he looked pretty good last season.

We definitely need to add an experienced OT, no matter which side he plays. Levi Jones, Tony Pashos, or Mark Tauscher might be able to help.

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How did Mike Williams make the team? Nice story and all but he can't play RT for shit.

Also why keep Mason if he doesn't play teams???

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Vinny on roster cuts.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Vinny_Cerrato_Roster_Cuts_Press_Conference_49059.jsp]Vinny Cerrato Roster Cuts Press Conference[/url]

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[quote=53Fan;585019]Vinny on roster cuts.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Vinny_Cerrato_Roster_Cuts_Press_Conference_49059.jsp]Vinny Cerrato Roster Cuts Press Conference[/url][/quote]

Preface: other than 2-3 players, I like the 53 man roster.

Vinny looks shifty as hell in that video, and the whole time I got the feeling he didn't want to be there. I wonder if Zorn and Vinny did Rock Paper Scissors to see who would go before the mediots and explain why Chase was cut, among other questions

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[quote=redsk1;584917]A few choices shocked me: Batiste and M. Williams on the oline. I just remember during a preseason game thinking, man this guy Batiste sure got beat good. Good thing he'll never play. I guess they are thinking potential w/ MW. The problem is we don't have time for potential.

I'm not really too confident in our backup LBs. Blades, Wilson (a converted DE), Thomas. Hope no one gets hurt...yea.[/quote]


I'm more than concerned with the fragility, as well as the lack of experience at the LB position. Of the starters Fletcher is by far the most experienced but let's face it guys, London slowed slightly towards the end of last season.

Rocky has a history of knee problems so we have to keep em crossed and hope he can maintain health for the duration of the season.

HB Blades is our next most experienced player at the LB position. His versatility alows him to play all three LB positions which could prove invalueable over the course of the season.

The next three, Orakpo, Wilson and Henson have never played a down in the league at the position. We want to believe that Orakpo will succeed because of his credentials, but we can't loose sight of the fact he lacks vital experience, and creative OC's are going to test his skill level repeatedly all season long.

Now let's talk about the DB's. I feel good about the safety position, but the CB position could become problematic depending on both the health of Rogers, and his ability to maintain his place in the lineup. Halfway through the season last year he was sent to the pine in favor of Hall and didn't accept the demotion very well.

Hall, I'm going to keep my fingers crossed and hope his play does not cause a lot of people to say "I told you so".

Smoot. if we don't get anything else we'll always get the "rap"

The second half of the CB situation is erily simular to the second half of the LB corps. Westbrook, Barnes and Tryon none of which have ever played in an NFL game. It's going to prove interesting, and I'm going to hope and pray our frontline players can stay healthy which is a tall order in this league.

My antennas' are up!

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[quote=53Fan;585019]Vinny on roster cuts.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Vinny_Cerrato_Roster_Cuts_Press_Conference_49059.jsp]Vinny Cerrato Roster Cuts Press Conference[/url][/quote]This just about explains it. Batiste has showed some promise.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;585021]Preface: other than 2-3 players, I like the 53 man roster.

Vinny looks shifty as hell in that video, and the whole time I got the feeling he didn't want to be there. I wonder if Zorn and Vinny did Rock Paper Scissors to see who would go before the mediots and explain why Chase was cut, among other questions[/quote]
I like the roster also, but not crazy about Westbrook, and Wynn making the team.

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[quote=Longtimefan;585022]I'm more than concerned with the fragility, as well as the lack of experience at the LB position. Of the starters Fletcher is by far the most experienced but let's face it guys, London slowed slightly towards the end of last season.

Rocky has a history of knee problems so we have to keep em crossed and hope he can maintain health for the duration of the season.

HB Blades is our next most experienced player at the LB position. His versatility alows him to play all three LB positions which could prove invalueable over the course of the season.

The next three, Orakpo, Wilson and Henson have never played a down in the league at the position. We want to believe that Orakpo will succeed because of his credentials, but we can't loose sight of the fact he lacks vital experience, and creative OC's are going to test his skill level repeatedly all season long.

Now let's talk about the DB's. I feel good about the safety position, but the CB position could become problematic depending on both the health of Rogers, and his ability to maintain his place in the lineup. Halfway through the season last year he was sent to the pine in favor of Hall and didn't accept the demotion very well.

Hall, I'm going to keep my fingers crossed and hope his play does not cause a lot of people to say "I told you so".

Smoot. if we don't get anything else we'll always get the "rap"

The second half of the CB situation is erily simular to the second half of the LB corps. Westbrook, Barnes and Tryon none of which have ever played in an NFL game. It's going to prove interesting, and I'm going to hope and pray our frontline players can stay healthy which is a tall order in this league.

My antennas' are up![/quote]

Good post -- you've cited some legitimate concerns. I feel like we'll be okay with Fletcher this year, but absolutely his replacement needs to be on the horizon pretty soon.

Hopefully our upgrades along the D-line will compensate for any weaknesses with the linebackers and secondary.

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I think this article is a fairly reasonable assessment:

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/As_Season_Beckons__A_Breakdown_Of_the_Final_53_49072.jsp]As Season Beckons, A Breakdown Of the Final 53[/url]

Granted it is a little biased, but I got no problem with that either.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;585045]I think this article is a fairly reasonable assessment:

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/As_Season_Beckons__A_Breakdown_Of_the_Final_53_49072.jsp]As Season Beckons, A Breakdown Of the Final 53[/url]

Granted it is a little biased, but I got no problem with that either.[/quote]

Good read. Even though Weisman works for the Redskins, he comes across as being pretty objective in his articles and from the times I've heard him speak.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;584920]If thats the case im sure we could make an arguement for half of the avatars on here.[/quote]

Not really. It's been a long time since a player as horribly average (or worse) as Colt has gotten worshiped to such an extent.

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[quote=GMScud;585059]Not really. It's been a long time since a player as horribly average (or worse) as Colt has gotten worshiped to such an extent.[/quote]

Exactly. I would like to know one other avatar that could be equated to the PJ5. All are either a current player, or a player who through his Regular season/Post season play established himself as an enduring Redskin. Don't quite think Colt has reached that status yet.

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Eagles sucking Dixon's brain? Then under the bus? see: [url=http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-eagles/Feeley_released.html]Feeley released; claim DT off waivers | Philadelphia Inquirer | 09/06/2009[/url]

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Where's the Anthony Mix avatar?

In other news, according to PFT (take it with a grain of salt), Filthy signed Dixon.

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[quote=Bandwagon;585067]Eagles sucking Dixon's brain? Then under the bus? see: [url=http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-eagles/Feeley_released.html]Feeley released; claim DT off waivers | Philadelphia Inquirer | 09/06/2009[/url][/quote]

I believe if you claim them off waivers they have to be on your active 53 for 3 weeks. I don't have link though