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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;613080]I read somebody said Shawn Murphy got cut from the Dolphins. Would he be a good fit at guard for the Skins? Really don't know much about him. I'd assume if he is an upgrade he would be a stop-gap?[/quote]

I think that Murphy is worth a look.

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Levi Jones is just another band aid. The line can't be fixed until the off season.

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[quote=WaldSkins;613110]I still have yet to see why everyone loves him so much.[/quote]

Personally im about done with Betts and Rock so anyone else will make me feel better. I thought Aldridge would push for time.

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[quote=skinsfan69;613116]Levi Jones is just another band aid. The line can't be fixed until the off season.[/quote]

It's not like Vinny can draft lineman.

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The Levi Jones signing is a good move. We need some type of solid help on that offensive line! I hated that Mason got cut though.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;613117]Personally im about done with Betts and Rock so anyone else will make me feel better. I thought Aldridge would push for time.[/quote]

I think Betts is soo bad that i would have cut him twice.

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Why didnt we go after Witherspoon from the Rams for a 5th and a low wr? We could have moved RAK on the line for good.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;613125]Why didnt we go after Witherspoon from the Rams for a 5th and a low wr? We could have moved RAK on the line for good.[/quote]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Witherspoon has long history of injuries? The main and only reason why NC Panthers released him.. It's not worth the risk..

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[quote=tryfuhl;613084][URL="http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking-news/story/1292015.html"]Miami Dolphins cut guard Shawn Murphy, sign tackle - Breaking News - MiamiHerald.com[/URL][/quote]

Can we cut Betts and Rock and pick up Murphy and another RB camp scrub?

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[quote=SmootSmack;613096]Apparently Mason was pretty bitter he got cut, made some sarcastic remarks about "Well I guess the team will start winning now"[/quote]
he's been stroked for several seasons in a row, only to have us stop right before he had a chance to blow.. errr lol

I'd be bitter too a bit.. it's one thing if you bounce around the league

not to say he'd be our answer, but we carried way deep on RB for a reason.. then again, maybe not a good one

another up in down on the same carousel that this organization is, no matter how many times you go high or low, no matter how many times you go around, you end up in the same place

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[quote=skinsnut;612995]I am putting the [B][COLOR=red][SIZE=5]Disenfranchised Tag[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B] on you![/quote]

Yeeeaaaahhhh. I've been "TAGGED". Yeeeaaaahhhh.

Ok now only the assholes have to run and hide.....1......2......3.......4......

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I personally think Williams did a better job at RG then at RT. He was opening some nice holes early for portis 2 weeks ago untill Portis started running into his on lineman again lol

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[quote=Chico23231;612903]If the Packers and Lions both past on him, that is a red flag. I just dont know anymore...I cant trust any move by the FO as long as Vinny is running things.[/quote]

Thats because our O-Line is worst than Packers and the Lions. Its not about trust at this point we are desperate right now to get som O-line help so JC wont get killed.

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[quote=tryfuhl;612931]Why the hell did we cut a RB just to sign another, ugh[/quote]

I guess the coaches don't see any upside to Mason or Aldridge.

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[quote=Paintrain;612942]I wouldn't be so sure that Heyer moves back into his starting spot. If Williams plays decently, I could see him staying there if Jones takes over at LT.[/quote]

Heyer back to RT , Williams RG and Jones LT when up to speed. All depending on Samuels coming back or going on IR.

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:sleep:[quote=duetsch215;613043]Someone needs to sign Mason and keep him long term....that guy is good[/quote]

Look Marcus Mason is not the answer here. He is not a replacement for Portis and he is not a featured back. Case closed end of story.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;613102]I thought Mason could have made a contribution, id rather have him than Wynn who now every time i hear his name i visualize Oher putting him on his backside.[/quote]

Renaldo Wynn is just a veteran locker room guy with some much needed leadership skills. He wont even be active on game days.

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I like the Levi Jones signing. Not sure why we did not cut our losses with Betts now or tried to trade him for a 5th or 6th rounder. Would have like to see Aldridge get some playing time on KR or as a 3rd down back. Oh well he is cut again.

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[quote=skins89moss;613176]I guess the coaches don't see any upside to Mason or Aldridge.[/quote]
good thing that they saw upside to some cat we've never tried out

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[quote=skinsnut;612955]Good one!

[B]Realistically though...did any of us think Heyer was a legit starting LT?[/B]
I expected him to give up a couple sacks...and he apparantly did.
I didn't watch the game for the first time in years.
I choose to be happy again.

Levi Jones will start after the bye...I guarantee it.
Heyer aint a horrible RT though.
We basically now have 4 Tackles that are very similar...they all kinda SUCK :)
Its just that Levi probably sucks less than the others...assuming he knew the playbook!
(excluding Samuals of course)[/quote]

The front office apparently did. Heyer was an undrafted free agent. Most of us probably figured he would be a backup, someone who could hold up for a game or two -- but certainly not a full-time starter. What the fans correctly see as a stop-gap measure, the front office wrongly sees as a long term answer.

Yet again, guess who was right?

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[quote=Beemnseven;613204]The front office apparently did. Heyer was an undrafted free agent. Most of us probably figured he would be a backup, someone who could hold up for a game or two -- but certainly not a full-time starter. What the fans correctly see as a stop-gap measure, the front office wrongly sees as a long term answer.

Yet again, guess who was right?[/quote]

I don't think the front office saw him as a long-term answer at LT at all. RT yes. LT no.

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[quote=SmootSmack;613205]I don't think the front office saw him as a long-term answer at LT at all. RT yes. LT no.[/quote]

Yeah, that's what I meant. He went in for Jansen at RT originally. But Zorn says LT is his 'natural' position . . .

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[quote=skins89moss;613179]:sleep:

Look Marcus Mason is not the answer here. He is not a replacement for Portis and he is not a featured back. Case closed end of story.[/quote]

yup, MM may have reached his nfl apex this year. someone might pick him up as a 3rd rb due to injuries, but don't expect to ever see the guy in a normal rotation all year.

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Its funny to me how some 'veteran' members here find it necessary to bust the balls of some who show extreme frustration and emotion. I'm guilty of showing extreme frustration, and probably should step away from the keyboard for 10 minutes before posting, but it ain't always gonna happen. Anyway this is the worst clusterf*%k Ive ever experienced as a fan in my life. I have nothing left at this point in time. I really hope we DON'T have the worst record in the entire NFL at seasons end as I previously stated, but we will see. I'm like the majority of fans, frustrated, over it, no light at the end of the tunnel kind of mentality as long as this front office remains the same. I am a Redskins fan and that will never change, but I cant wait for the day that I can be a PROUD Redskins fan once again.

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To defend Portis and Betts No one could do well with this line.

but this is a shit move by the skins...My hope for monday night is gone

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[quote=skins89moss;613179]:sleep:

Look Marcus Mason is not the answer here. He is not a replacement for Portis and he is not a featured back. Case closed end of story.[/quote]

I've had to come to this realization after being one of his major supporters. My family member informed me that the team cut Mason and Alridge because they were still having issues with MM not picking up the his blocks in practice or in the KC game. Aparently he whiffed on two plays in which ARE could have gotten the ball and one on another play which had JC had time one of our WR's would have gotten a good gain. Alridge was cut cause during practice he still keeps fumbling. They don't want to put him on the field for fear he will fumble during a game.

I don't know where my family got the info...they don't have any inside connections just passing along what may have been the problem and as I said I was a major supporter of MM and Alridge. If this is the true issue then I think we can all agree MM and Alridge were not going to help the team. Although, being the stubborn person that I am, I threw out there that they should cut Sellers also since he supposedly has been missing his blocks also according to Portis. But...wake up call for me. There will be other players in the future for whome we can back and maybe ones that can actually perform.

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[quote=pg86;613226]To defend Portis and Betts No one could do well with this line.

but this is a shit move by the skins...My hope for monday night is gone[/quote]

Well #1 I don't see why anyone would have any hope for Mon. night? What has this team done "this year" that would lead anyone to believe that we are going to do well Mon. night?

and.....cutting MM who hardly saw the field and Alridge who never saw the field....how is that making you lose hope? I think hope has already been lost and I think the players hope has been crushed also. Which is why we see half hearted attempts at everything they do.

They either believe or they don't. I they still believed I think we would see more of a fight out of them.

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I'm a bit late to the thread, but I like these signings for a couple of reasons.

First, Joe Bugel might be old, but I think he can get Jones to produce at a decent starter level. Heck, with Samuels out, in 2-3 weeks it'll better than what we have right now.

Second, the running back we signed will give us an option at change of pace back and fullback. Sherman Smith might know something we don't.

Third, MM and AA suck.

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[quote=WaldSkins;613110]I still have yet to see why everyone loves him so much. Guess i'll have to wait for next preseason.[/quote]
Exactly. We've been hearing for a few years how he's the next Walter Payton. He's barely better than a practice squad player and he's received more carries than he really deserved as a #3/#4 back this season. He's failed at making an impact twice with us and once with the Jets.

I've never heard of the new RB, but his scouting report sounds promising and at this point, we need to try new things with some new personnel, on and off the field.

Picking up Levi Jones is overdue. Great move and I'll give the team credit for making it, even if late. If he can stay healthy, he has a lot of potential and really, he's the best FA we could get right now. No team is trading or releasing quality linemen.

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[quote=pg86;613226]To defend Portis and Betts No one could do well with this line.

but this is a shit move by the skins...My hope for monday night is gone[/quote]

:lol: You thought Mason was going to win the game for us? You think it's a BAD move to pick up another offensive lineman? :rofl:




:smashfrea

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[quote=Buster;613256]Exactly. We've been hearing for a few years how he's the next Walter Payton. He's barely better than a practice squad player and he's received more carries than he really deserved as a #3/#4 back this season. He's failed at making an impact twice with us and once with the Jets.

I've never heard of the new RB, but his scouting report sounds promising and at this point, we need to try new things with some new personnel, on and off the field.

[B]Picking up Levi Jones is overdue. Great move and I'll give the team credit for making it, even if late. If he can stay healthy, he has a lot of potential and really, he's the best FA we could get right now.[/B] No team is trading or releasing quality linemen.[/quote]

I wanted Levi Jones, I am happy we got Levi Jones, I will never know if we tried, but he wouldn't sign until he knew he would be a starter, or if we just didn't try.
IF the FO tried, but LJ said, I'm not signing till I know I can be a starter. Than awesome move for picking him up pretty quickly once Samuels was out.

IF the FO said, lets see how far Samuels can carry us, and then worry about it once he goes down. Terrible move for not having the plan in place since we all knew Samuels was going to miss games, the question was just how many.

I don't know which scenario is closer to the truth, but my guess is probably #2. (although again Bugel made his preseason comments about the LT spot, and LJ definitely wanted to be a starter, so #1 could be the truth)

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Does anyone think that Wynn is likely to make a bigger contribution to the team than either Mason or Aldridge could? If not, then doesn't this seem like a really dumb move. It does to me, especially since Portis seems to be struggling. Wynn won't see the field whereas Mason already has. Granted, he didn't do a lot, but it's so early in terms of actual playing time.

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[quote=calia;613266]Does anyone think that Wynn is likely to make a bigger contribution to the team than either Mason or Aldridge could? If not, then doesn't this seem like a really dumb move. It does to me, especially since Portis seems to be struggling. Wynn won't see the field whereas Mason already has. Granted, he didn't do a lot, but it's so early in terms of actual playing time.[/quote]

Wynn was picked up for the fill-in punter, not Mason/Aldridge.

But, the answer is yes, he can contribute more than both of them combined.

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[quote=Buster;613269]Wynn was picked up for the fill-in punter, not Mason/Aldridge.

But, the answer is yes, he can contribute more than both of them combined.[/quote]

My point is that with a roster spot to give, do you re-sign Wynn or keep Mason or Alderidge, and I still don't see Wynn having more of an impact that either of those two might. I am not saying that they're starting material. But neither is Wynn, and with Wilson, Jarmon, Daniels, Orakpo, and Carter available to play DE at varying points in a game, I just don't see what Wynn gets us.

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[quote=calia;613272]My point is that with a roster spot to give, do you re-sign Wynn or keep Mason or Alderidge, and I still don't see Wynn having more of an impact that either of those two might. I am not saying that they're starting material. But neither is Wynn, and with Wilson, Jarmon, Daniels, Orakpo, and Carter available to play DE at varying points in a game, I just don't see what Wynn gets us.[/quote]

Yes we're deep at DE, but Mason and Aldridge were non-contributors completely. Mason just isn't as good as people around here dream about and Aldridge makes Betts look like the best ball-securer in the world.

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[quote=Buster;613275]Yes we're deep at DE, but Mason and Aldridge were non-contributors completely. Mason just isn't as good as people around here dream about and Aldridge makes Betts look like the best ball-securer in the world.[/quote]

Well, if you're in agreement that we have depth at DE, even if we shed Mason and Alderidge, it seems more sensible to sign someone at another position of need rather than a DE who won't contribute.

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[quote=calia;613279]Well, if you're in agreement that we have depth at DE, even if we shed Mason and Alderidge, it seems more sensible to sign someone at another position of need rather than a DE who won't contribute.[/quote]

Agreed, I'd prefer if we'd use any open roster spot for O-line depth or a LB to help keep Orakpo at DE full-time.

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We should release Wynn and sign #53. I'm sure he can give us a few games. Allow Orakpo to spend less time at LB.

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Washington??

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Frankly, I would be happier with an O-lineman -- even someone like Runyan. Let's face it -- given the inexperience of our line and the fact that Jones and Williams have had injury issues, there's a decent chance that we will have other holes to fill. Signing Runyan before the Eagles game and getting some intel there couldn't hurt either.