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Did someone say Switzer?

It will get pretty interesting if Lovie Smith, John Fox, and Jeff Fisher all find themselves on the market as well

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[quote=SmootSmack;627832][B]Did someone say Switzer?[/B]

It will get pretty interesting if Lovie Smith, John Fox, and Jeff Fisher all find themselves on the market as well[/quote]

That would be me:confused:

Cowher I had to google him just now. I'll try to clean it up:laughing-

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[quote=mlmdub130;627810]i just think zorn is on a leash and told what he is allowed to do, i think that any coach wanting to "find a spark" would try a seemingly amazing talent in mithcell

and as far as the play calling i honestly haven't seen anything that drastic, i guess you are refering to the times in which plays are called, i just feel that are o was the same with minor changes if the first few games with sherm, but once cp went out we started to light it up.

i guess my point would be that sherm has helped out a little bit, but portis getting a concusion actually helped us out more, as weird as that may seem, just because portis has been playing hurt all year and no one could actually stop him from sutiing up and playing, until he got the concussion

betts has been PRACTICING with first team and has a rythm with them which goes a long way[/quote]

I think most of us were calling for Ladell Betts to be released this season because when he comes in the game he did not make plays. I think the O-Line has blocked much better the last 2 games than they have all season. Lets not mistake it that Portis is a better back than Betts will ever be but maybe Portis was playing hurst and also our O-line was just awful the 1st 7 games. This Sunday against Dallas we will see how well Betts does against a good Dallas front 7. Ladell Betts better hope our O-line can block Jay Rattlif and Demarcus Ware or it will be a long day for him.

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[quote=53Fan;627826]I've been a Zorn supporter from the start but as CRedskinsRule has pointed out before, his playcalling has not been that great. He seems to try to be too smart in the redzone. For example the stretch play works in theory, but running straight ahead works best for US. We don't always have to outsmart people in the redzone, just outplay them. It may do him good to stand back a little and learn. We started moving the ball when Betts took over and that doesn't really surprise me. For one thing he knows the plays and practices behind the o-line throughout the week. Half the time I don't have a clue what Portis is trying to do and I'm not sure if he knows either. I'm glad to see Betts get his chance because even though Portis has more talent, Betts is a better fit because he puts in the effort during the week and the o-line knows they can count on him. They know he's gonna hit the hole and run downhill. Portis usually runs into their back or falls down then complains about the blocking.[/quote]

Yea we dont have the backs to be running stretch plays. Our backs are better suited to run down hill. Good coaches no what their players strengths are and call plays that help them make plays.

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Mort was on ESPN980 with Vinny Cerrato and Vinny was asking for updates on The Big 4:

Jon Gruden - There's no way he leaves ESPN before 2012. (So maybe when our next coach doesnt turn the franchise around after 2 years, Snyder can fire that guy and hire Gruden then).

Mike Holmgren - The chances of him taking the Brown's job are slim to none. Holmgren only interviewed in Cleaveland to perform due diligence and Cleaveland against the job he really wants in Seattle. Mike Holmgren does not get along with the Seahawk's current GM, whose contract is up at the end of the year. He and the owner have a great relationship and Holmgren views Seattle as his ideal job. If someone else were to offer him $10MM to go elsewhere and it was a good situation, he might consider it. But it would have to be a situation where the owner said, "here's money, the team is yours. Do whatever you want with it and you won't hear from me again for another 5 years."

Cowher - Will probably return to coaching in 2010, but its not garaunteed. It would have to be the right situation for him to leave CBS, but he really wants to caoch. he's telling people he wants to coach a warm weather team.

Shanahan - Wilson has not had success hiring big names. He's only interviewing Shahanan to pacify the fan base.

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i would love to have Jeff Fisher here. i cant say it enough. cant get more from a stability stand point then Fisher

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;627902]Mort was on ESPN980 with Vinny Cerrato and Vinny was asking for updates on The Big 4:

Jon Gruden - There's no way he leaves ESPN before 2012. (So maybe when our next coach doesnt turn the franchise around after 2 years, Snyder can fire that guy and hire Gruden then).[/quote]

It's possible he'd leave before then, but it won't be easy

[quote]Mike Holmgren - The chances of him taking the Brown's job are slim to none. Holmgren only interviewed in Cleaveland to perform due diligence and Cleaveland against the job he really wants in Seattle. Mike Holmgren does not get along with the Seahawk's current GM, whose contract is up at the end of the year. He and the owner have a great relationship and Holmgren views Seattle as his ideal job. If someone else were to offer him $10MM to go elsewhere and it was a good situation, he might consider it. But it would have to be a situation where the owner said, "here's money, the team is yours. Do whatever you want with it and you won't hear from me again for another 5 years."[/quote]

Hadn't thought about him going back to Seattle. So it's Ruskell he doesn't like? Wonder if we should make a run at Ruskell? Holmgren doesn't seem to like sharing responsibilities with anyone. There's always seems to be an issue with him not liking a President or GM. Can't blame him for liking Paul Allen though

[quote]Cowher - Will probably return to coaching in 2010, but its not garaunteed. It would have to be the right situation for him to leave CBS, but he really wants to caoch. he's telling people he wants to coach a warm weather team.[/quote]

Redskins are probably still a dark horse for him. But I think he comes back to Carolina, though I'd keep an eye on Tampa potentially. Interesting thing about him is I'm not sure he wants to have GM responsibilities

[quote]Shanahan - Lerner has not had success hiring big names. He's only interviewing Shahanan to pacify the fan base.[/quote]

Browns are interviewing Shanahan?

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[quote=dmek25;627914]i would love to have Jeff Fisher here. i cant say it enough. cant get more from a stability stand point then Fisher[/quote]

I wouldn't be against that as long as a good new GM was included in that mix.

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[quote=SmootSmack;627921]
Hadn't thought about him going back to Seattle. So it's Ruskell he doesn't like? [u]Wonder if we should make a run at Ruskell? [/u]Holmgren doesn't seem to like sharing responsibilities with anyone. There's always seems to be an issue with him not liking a President or GM. Can't blame him for liking Paul Allen though[/quote]
In that scenario, we could probably keep our same offensive philosophy. I wonder who he would bring in as HC.

[quote]Redskins are probably still a dark horse for him. But I think he comes back to Carolina, though I'd keep an eye on Tampa potentially. Interesting thing about him is I'm not sure he wants to have GM responsibilities[/quote]

I seem to remember reading that Snyder doesn't like Cowher anymore for some reason... i'd love it if he came here though, obviously.

[quote=]Browns are interviewing Shanahan?[/quote]

Oops my bad. meant to say Ralph Wilson, the Bills owner. I've corrected my original post, thanks.

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I'm not sure that Snyder likes Cowher less so much as there are more guys to choose from now. I'm not sure I see him here anyway

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I don't see him here, either, although its not because I wouldnt love it. Cowher has a "tough," strong, confident, personality and I think Snyder is intimidated by that. The last time we had a strong confident HC was Shottenheimer, and Snyder fired him after a year, to the extreme detriment of the franchise.

The only way i could see Cowher ever coming here is with someone like Gibbs in President role and a GM of Cowher & Gibbs chosing making personnel decisions. That is my "dream scenario" and one that would provide enough insulation between Snyder and the HC. However, since Snyder loves, respects, and admires Gibbs so much, he wouldnt perceive it as insulation. If Snyder was upset with Cowher about something, Gibbs could just say, "ill talk to him." If Snyder wanted a certain player really badly in the offseason, Gibbs could say, "yeah, i think thats a good idea. Let me talk it over with the GM and we'll see what we can do." All the while, the GM and HC can simply go about thier jobs with minimal interruption.

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As much as that scenario might be attractive, I don't see Gibbs ever returning to the NFL in any capacity. I think losing Sean Taylor and his grandson's health struggles really took it out of him (and who could blame him for that?), and it forced him to realize that his NFL life -- which was 24/7 for him, and always would be -- was incomparible with his desire to spend quality time with family.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;627902]

Mike Holmgren - The chances of him taking the Brown's job are slim to none. Holmgren only interviewed in Cleaveland to perform due diligence and Cleaveland against the job he really wants in Seattle. Mike Holmgren does not get along with the Seahawk's current GM, whose contract is up at the end of the year. He and the owner have a great relationship and Holmgren views Seattle as his ideal job. If someone else were to offer him $10MM to go elsewhere and it was a good situation, he might consider it. But it would have to be a situation where the owner said, "here's money, the team is yours. Do whatever you want with it and you won't hear from me again for another 5 years."

[/quote]

ESPN.com has an article that says otherwise

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Heard on NBC tonights late news, Jerry Gray is in consideration for a college coaching job. Don't know more than that...

I like what i have heard from him, I imagine he will go somewhere else next year :(

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;628194]ESPN.com has an article that says otherwise[/quote]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8145edf2&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Retired coach Holmgren 'absolutely would love' to chat with Browns[/url]

Re: Our next coach??
 

My choices not in any order...

Marty and son Brian Schottenheimer. Marty is proven at turning teams around. Eat some crow Danny, bring them both in. Hire Marty as HC/GM and his son as OC. Give Marty a 3yr HCing contract with the understanding he will move to GM if he does well. At the 3yr mark he can let his son Brian move to HC.

or, if after the season ends and Fisher has been fired then bring in Fisher. Locate a GM who can work with him.

See if Chris Polian will take the job and maybe bring in Asst. HC Christensen from the Colts and make him HC. Maybe he can bring some assistants in or swindle P.Manning to help out coaching the QB's in learning the offense.

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Per PFT :( sorry guys I know no one likes them. Just passing on some more news or rumors.

[B]Schottenheimer's name surfaces in Buffalo
Posted by Mike Florio on November 23, 2009 9:15 PM ET
If the Buffalo Bills won't be able to get Bill Cowher, maybe they'll target his mentor.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports that former Browns, Chiefs, Redskins, and Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer could land on the list of candidates to coach the Buffalo Bills.

Schottenheimer, who was fired by San Diego in February 2007 following a 14-2 regular season that ended in a first-round playoff loss to the Patriots, has said that he has no plans to coach again.

If he were to return to the game, Schottenheimer surely would need control over the football operation. He didn't have it with the Chargers, and Marty repeatedly clashed with G.M. A.J. Smith.

Then again, Marty negotiated full authority over the roster, draft, etc. in Washington, and he was fired after only one year.

Other potential candidates to replace Dick Jauron (and interim coach Perry Fewell) include Florida Tuskers (UFL) coach Jim Haslett and Montreal Alouettes (CFL) coach Marc Trestman.
[/B]

This does not make me happy. I was sooo hoping DS would eat a little, just a little crow and bring back Marty who is proven to turn teams around and throw the whole ball of wax at him and say fix this problem.

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I think it's pretty doubtful Marty comes back at all.

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More news/rumors by them...

[B]Buzz building for Holmgren to Seahawks
Posted by Mike Florio on November 23, 2009 8:53 PM ET
The chatter is intensifying regarding a possible return by former Packers and Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren to the organization with which he spent ten seasons, from 1999 through 2008.

We've been hearing the talk for a while, and the contractual status of current President of Football Operatons/G.M. Tim Ruskell could set the stage for Ruskell to depart after the year sans buyout, and for Holmgren to return as the high man on the totem pole.

There's even some talk it could happen within the next week or two, despite the reality that Holmgren could be hired only after at least one minority candidate is interviewed for the job.

But it's unclear whether the league would permit "permanent" hires of this nature to be made during the season, since possible candidates under contract with other teams cannot be considered until the season ends.

Regardless of how it all plays out, the Seahawks can't be overlooked as a potential candidate to re-employ Holmgren, who also is widely believed to be under consideration to join the Browns.
[/B]

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and yet more.....

[B]Bills contact Bill Cowher
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 23, 2009 8:08 PM ET
The Buffalo Bills aren't going after coordinators this time around.

Frustrated by a decade of futility, Bills owner Ralph Wilson is hunting big game in the coaching field. He's expected to meet with Mike Shanahan this week, and the NFL Network's Jason La Canfora reports that the team also contacted Bill Cowher last week.

Cowher's policy is that he isn't interested in discussing any jobs until after the season -- out of respect to CBS and current coaches.

While nothing will happen on the Cowher front for a while, The Chin is reportedly closer to returning to coaching that he has been since retiring. And Buffalo will reportedly spend big bucks.

A "source close to Cowher" told NFL Network that compensation in Buffalo could reach $10 million-per-season. (Spittle comes free.) It sounds like Wilson is willing to pay a lot, but he also has to be worried about being used to drive up a coach's price for another team.

No matter how things shake out, it would be surprising if Wilson doesn't have plenty of competition for Shanahan and Cowher.
[/B]

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Apparently Cowher has hinted that he wouldn't mind the Bears job, not interested in the Bills job, and not surprisingly definitely interested in Carolina.

I could see Marty in Buffalo, I think he'd prefer to be in the AFC and Buffalo (the city-of which I actually know nothing) seems to fit his personality.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;628195]Heard on NBC tonights late news, Jerry Gray is in consideration for a college coaching job. Don't know more than that...

I like what i have heard from him, I imagine he will go somewhere else next year :([/quote]

It's looking more and more likely that he'll be coaching Fred Smith's son in Memphis. He's definitely a finalist

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If Holmgren took Seattle's GM would he hire Zorn after we fire him(assuming we do)

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[quote=SmootSmack;630094]Apparently Cowher has hinted that [B]he wouldn't mind the Bears job,[/B] not interested in the Bills job, and not surprisingly definitely interested in Carolina.

I could see Marty in Buffalo, I think he'd prefer to be in the AFC and Buffalo (the city-of which I actually know nothing) seems to fit his personality.[/quote]

Bears? I must be oblivious. I didn't even know they were thinking about canning their HC? I thought the only teams were

Bills
Browns
Skins
Panthers
Titans

and contingent on how well they do this yr...
Dallas
Chargers


I get the feeling I'm missing someone but I didn't think it was the Bears?

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A Shanahan/Cutler reunion could happen in Chicago if they continue to slide. I'm wondering at this point if the fan base will be more excited by a name coach or by an unknown but well respected GM. I think as long as the Vinny/Zorn show mercifully ends we will all be happier.

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[quote=SBXVII;630118]Bears? I must be oblivious. I didn't even know they were thinking about canning their HC? I thought the only teams were

Bills
Browns
Skins
Panthers
[B]Titans[/B]

and contingent on how well they do this yr...
Dallas
Chargers


I get the feeling I'm missing someone but I didn't think it was the Bears?[/quote]


After the last month I think Fischer stays there. Tenn is one of the better teams right now in football.

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[quote=Paintrain;630120]A Shanahan/Cutler reunion could happen in Chicago if they continue to slide. I'm wondering at this point if the fan base will be more excited by a name coach or by an unknown but well respected GM. I think as long as the Vinny/Zorn show mercifully ends we will all be happier.[/quote]

I wouldn't be shocked if we fired Zorn and hired Blache to take over full time. I'm surprised his name hasn't bubbled to the top. Bring in a new O-coordinator and retain Sherm Lewis. I know Blache has talked about retiring, but money talks and you would maintain some sense of continuity on the defensive side of the ball.

If Blache steps up or is even offered the deal, then I wouldn't mind us going after Greg Manusky for the 49ers to be our D-Coordinator/Assistant Head Coach. At the very least, I think Blache and Sherm Lewis get an interview because of the Rooney Rule.

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[quote=12thMan;630129]I wouldn't be shocked if we fired Zorn and hired Blache to take over full time. I'm surprised his name hasn't bubbled to the top. Bring in a new O-coordinator and retain Sherm Lewis. I know Blache has talked about retiring, but money talks and you would maintain some sense of continuity on the defensive side of the ball.

If Blache steps up or is even offered the deal, then I wouldn't mind us going after Greg Manusky for the 49ers to be our D-Coordinator/Assistant Head Coach. At the very least, I think Blache and Sherm Lewis get an interview because of the Rooney Rule.[/quote]

Blache wanted to retire prior to the Zorn hiring. DS convinced him not too. I don't think there's much of a chance of Blache as a head coach.

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[quote=12thMan;630129]I wouldn't be shocked if we fired Zorn and hired Blache to take over full time. I'm surprised his name hasn't bubbled to the top. Bring in a new O-coordinator and retain Sherm Lewis. I know Blache has talked about retiring, but money talks and you would maintain some sense of continuity on the defensive side of the ball.

If Blache steps up or is even offered the deal, then I wouldn't mind us going after Greg Manusky for the 49ers to be our D-Coordinator/Assistant Head Coach. At the very least, I think Blache and Sherm Lewis get an interview because of the Rooney Rule.[/quote]I was thinking along the same lines as you, only instead of Blache how about Jerry Gray?

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Yeah if the Bears continue to crash & burn there could be a change there at HC.

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[quote=Paintrain;630120]A Shanahan/Cutler reunion could happen in Chicago if they continue to slide. I'm wondering at this point if the fan base will be more excited by a name coach or by an unknown but well respected GM. I think as long as the Vinny/Zorn show mercifully ends we will all be happier.[/quote]

I think as long as we hire a capable GM, i'll be happy w/ their decision. If VC is here I don't think I'll be happy no matter who our new coach is.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;630132]I was thinking along the same lines as you, only instead of Blache how about Jerry Gray?[/quote]


I like Jerry Gray. He could be a candidate for many openings but purely from a fan standpoint, i just want a change. I can't take much more of the same team/coaches. We need a fresh start i think from the GM down.

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[quote=redsk1;630131]Blache wanted to retire prior to the Zorn hiring. DS convinced him not too. I don't think there's much of a chance of Blache as a head coach.[/quote]

Never say never, dude. That's all I'm saying. I don't think it's out of the question.

And the way Blache publicly defended Snyder has endeered him to Snyder for sure. Blache may not be many things, but loyal he is. I would say that's a quality Snyder values above all else.

I'm campaigning for Blache unless he says in no uncertain terms, he's not interested in being head coach of the Redskins.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;630132]I was thinking along the same lines as you, only instead of Blache how about Jerry Gray?[/quote]

One of them, if not both, gets interviewd for sure in my opinion. Gray is a little more polished and can play the PR game better than Blache. Image is everything with Snyder, so I could see the appeal there. Gray is also younger than Blache, but either one secures some continuity on the defensive side of the ball.

If one of them get's promoted and the other leaves, I'd like to see Greg Manusky or DeWayne Walker come back to D.C.

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I think the below list of teams will be looking for a new head coach next year and what coach they may get. I didn't put the Titans in this list because I think they are gonna turn it around and fisher will save his job. As for the bears they will keep lovie and maybe fire their offensive coordinator to bring a better offensive mind. The seahwawks will give Mora time:

Bills: Jim Haslett
Browns: Gregg Williams
Jags: Tony Dungy
Raiders: Mike Martz
Chargers: Ron Rivera
Cowboys: Mike Holmgren
Redskins: Mike Shannahan
Panthers: Bill Cowher

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Listening to John Clayton this morning on ESPN. He said he thought Shanahan would end up in DC.........for what it's worth

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cam cameron as HC, gray as DC?

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[quote=over the mountain;630158]cam cameron as HC, gray as DC?[/quote]

You mean 1-15 Cam Cameron? No thanks. But yes to Gray as DC.

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[quote=over the mountain;630158]cam cameron as HC, gray as DC?[/quote]

You just made SFREDSKIN's day!

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[quote=Hog1;630153]Listening to John Clayton this morning on ESPN. He said he thought Shanahan would end up in DC.........for what it's worth[/quote]

Yeah that's the general belief it seems. That Snyder will win the Shanahan sweepstakes and he'll come here as President/Head Coach (Cerrato could remain but in a non-decision making role); Bob Slowik will be the defensive coordinator, Kyle Shanahan will be the Asst. Head Coach-Offense/heir apparent. If Shanahan (Mike) wants the job, it's basically his.

Would be interesting though if the Texans fire Gary Kubiak. Which apparently is probably likely if they don't make the playoffs Maybe he comes here?