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[quote=mlmdub130;637775]thats why he is a terrible personel guy. i just wish he would leave the redskins and start his short lived media career already[/quote]

He's a much better GM than he is an actor.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;637783]He's a much better GM than he is an actor.[/quote]

i don't know he could play a pretty damn good strung out coke head without even trying

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[quote=mlmdub130;637775]thats why he is a terrible personel guy. i just wish he would leave the redskins and start his short lived media career already[/quote]

You'd prefer that Russell Okung was the guest?

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[quote=SmootSmack;637788]You'd prefer that Russell Okung was the guest?[/quote]

i would prefer he didn't have a show anymore atlest he doesn't do it everyday anymore

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[quote=mlmdub130;637792]i would prefer he didn't have a show anymore atlest he doesn't do it everyday anymore[/quote]

When did he do it everyday? I always thought it was once a week at most. Either way, players, coaches, and executives all around the league have radio shows (whether a full show or a segment on another show)

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i wouldn't know i would never listen to the crap he has to say anyways

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;637772]Smoot Smack is Jimmy Clausen everyone![/quote]

I knew it. It's been obvious for a long time.

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[quote=SmootSmack;637795]When did he do it everyday? I always thought it was once a week at most. Either way, players, coaches, and executives all around the league have radio shows (whether a full show or a segment on another show)[/quote]

Those are what I call the good shows, especially when they're hosted by college coaches. Basically the whole show is about how many different ways that can try and use the word "good."

"Oh we played good."
"Did some good things"
"That was a good play."
"He's gonna be good."

It's not that I want them to be honest about everything but they really don't need to expose us to this mindless dribble. In other words the shows shouldn't even really be aired.

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[quote=mlmdub130;637786]i don't know he could play a pretty damn good strung out coke head without even trying[/quote]

That's not acting!

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I don't think Clausen will be there when it's our pick. I'm sure St. Louis will take him with the first pick. We should be scouting Locker. He's as athletic as Colt however he can consistently make all of the throws. Whenever Colt gets in trouble he just throws it up and prays that Shipley bails him out as he always does. He won't be able to get away with that in the pros.

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[quote=mlmdub130;637638]desaen jackson was drafted right after fred davis, and ray rice was drafted three or four spots behind kelly, not to mention we needed lineman in both of thoose drafts and we got one, vinny is terrible personell guy[/quote]

So what how many other teams passed on those players? We had Moss / ARE small WR on the roster at the time. You win some you lose some.

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[quote=skinsfan69;637711]Thomas has had one or two good games and one of them was against a team that was pulling cb's off the street. Let's not overvalue the guys on this team yet just cause they're Redskins. Right now the only true keeper is probably Orakpo. The rest of them the verdict is still out.[/quote]

Yea just the New England Patriots and Brady about the c/b they pulled off the streets.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;637741]FYI, according to a thread on extremeskins, Clausen will appear as a guest of Vinny's on his radio show tomorrow morning at some point between 8-10AM.[/quote]

I do not want a rookie qb starting for us next season period. We dont need a rookie QB we need a young stud tackle, guard, center. Then go for a young QB and RB.

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There is no way we should pick up Clausen in the first round, if he falls to the 2nd round sure we should pick him up then. it would be a steal, but there is no way he is going to fall that far and no way we can afford to use our first round pick on anything but O-line.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;637663]we needed WR's a hell of alot more than we needed a younger back. While our offensive line still needs help, our defensive line has been dramatically upgraded over the past two years (Haynesworth, Jackson, Jarmon, and Orakpo). Are you going to complain no matter what the front office does? I bet if they draft o-linemen this year, you'll complain they didnt address some other position.

I know alot of people dont like acknowledging this, but Joe Jackson Gibbs set this franchise back several years by trading draft picks and stockpiling on old veteran players in an attempt to reach the superbowl. Not only did he fail to win more than one playoff game, but didnt develop young talent and left this team with the oldest roster in the NFL. He essentially put all of our chips on the table, went "all in," and lost. There's absolutely nothing any GM could have done in the past 2 years to put us in a noteably better situation (personnel wise) than we are now.[/quote]

Agreed.

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[quote=skinsfan69;637711]Thomas has had one or two good games and one of them was against a team that was pulling cb's off the street. Let's not overvalue the guys on this team yet just cause they're Redskins. Right now the only true keeper is probably Orakpo. The rest of them the verdict is still out.[/quote]
those cb's off of the street shut down tom brady

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[quote=Mattyk72;637750]Thomas is starting to show signs of life... in time I believe he could be a more complete package than Jackson.[/quote]

agreed.. he might not have that elusiveness but he's big, great hands, and tough as hell

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;637752]I love when people make the other side's argument. Gary Clark was good, but without Monk he would have had less of the career. We have this teams Gary Clark in Santana, we needed a Monk, and may have found one in DT at least last game, the way he pulled away from receivers.[/quote]
I'm hoping that Kelly becomes the Monk type and DT is a little more Gary Clark

either way if we can catch, move the chains, and score TDs I don't care who plays what role

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[quote=SmootSmack;637753]I'll be on around 9:30am[/quote]
I'll or It'll?

edit: nvm

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Not impressed at all with Clausen from the interview. He's too laid back for me. I loathe the California mentality. I feel like he's more suited to be a character on The Hills than be an NFL quarterback.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;637981]Not impressed at all with Clausen from the interview. He's too laid back for me. I loathe the California mentality. I feel like he's more suited to be a character on The Hills than be an NFL quarterback.[/quote]

Like that Tom Brady California mentality?

Clausen doesn't come across as Tim Tebow in an interview...but give me Clausen over Tebow as my QB

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/schottenheimer-speaks-up.html]Redskins Insider - Schottenheimer speaks up[/url]

Kinda funny, from Marty Schott...

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[quote=SmootSmack;637984]Like that Tom Brady California mentality?

Clausen doesn't come across as Tim Tebow in an interview...[B]but give me Clausen over Tebow as my QB[/B][/quote]

No doubt. I think he's going to be a good pro QB.

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[quote=SmootSmack;637984]Like that Tom Brady California mentality?

Clausen doesn't come across as Tim Tebow in an interview...but give me Clausen over Tebow as my QB[/quote]

Well i think the consensus is that most teams would take just about any QB in the draft over Tebow. it'll be very interesting to see where he's drafted. Clausen just seemed to have an immaturity about him. i also looked at his wikipedia page and the pictures of him there make him seem like a cocky little brat that you just want to smack in the face.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;637991]Well i think the consensus is that most teams would take just about any QB in the draft over Tebow. it'll be very interesting to see where he's drafted. Clausen just seemed to have an immaturity about him. i also looked at his wikipedia page and the pictures of him there make him seem like a cocky little brat that you just want to smack in the face.[/quote]

I don't know what you're talking about

[IMG]http://www.notredamesucks.org/clausen.jpg[/IMG]

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i'm at a loss for words.

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^^ you want that guy to be a leader of men in the nfl huh

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You can google almost anyone in the NFL and find funny/embarrassing pics of them

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but that one is exceptionally bad you have to admit that

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;637991]Well i think the consensus is that most teams would take just about any QB in the draft over Tebow. it'll be very interesting to see where he's drafted. Clausen just seemed to have an immaturity about him. [B]i also looked at his wikipedia page and the pictures of him there make him seem like a cocky little brat that you just want to smack in the face.[/B][/quote]

BHA, can you account for your time on the early morning hours of Sunday November 22nd?

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4684326]Source: Notre Dame Fighting Irish QB Jimmy Clausen punched by irate fan - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Paintrain;638023]BHA, can you account for your time on the early morning hours of Sunday November 22nd?

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4684326]Source: Notre Dame Fighting Irish QB Jimmy Clausen punched by irate fan - ESPN[/url][/quote]

lol, that was too funny, man people gotta chill out a little bit (but I would probably punch Vinny if I saw him out)

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[quote=tryfuhl;637925]those cb's off of the street shut down tom brady[/quote]

well i think the pass rush had more to do with that. but not taking anything away from dt, he had a real nice game. now i want to see him do it again.

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[quote=Paintrain;638023]BHA, can you account for your time on the early morning hours of Sunday November 22nd?

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4684326]Source: Notre Dame Fighting Irish QB Jimmy Clausen punched by irate fan - ESPN[/url][/quote]

i plead the the second!

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[quote=skinsfan69;638030]well i think the pass rush had more to do with that. but not taking anything away from dt, he had a real nice game. now i want to see him do it again.[/quote]

so our OLine handled their pass rush better? Or Campbell is a better qb under pressure than Tom Brady? I think DT and JC found a good thing, and hopefully we see more of them this week.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;638038]i plead the the second![/quote]

the second? you taking out your gun now?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;637678]Probably Ozzie Newsome. The guy has put together a competitive team with coordinators constantly getting HC positions and his scouts getting promoted to GM spots but the one constant in that organization is Ozzie. On top of that he helped put together a team that won a Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer. Basically a decade of success without a franchise QB, well until they got Flaco.[/quote]

something like 18 of their 22 starters were drafted by the ravens. thats impressive.

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[quote=SmootSmack;638041]the second? you taking out your gun now?[/quote]LMFAO :laughing2

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[quote=SmootSmack;638041]the second? you taking out your gun now?[/quote]

Well being punched with a gun would certainly hurt more than being punched with a fist.... not that i'm admitting to anything...

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[quote=Mattyk72;637322]Well until the season ends and something changes it's business as usual at the Park. I wouldn't read too far into it.[/quote]


I understand what your saying, but honestly these two scouting players is just the shit that irritates me to death. The owner wouldn't know the difference between a good and bad QB if I was in a uniform throwing balls around. And the fact that Vinny is still on these "trips" is the most frustrating thing along with doing this and not even having the season over, plus a lame duck coach, and no coach for next season at all. This FO doesn't even need to be doing shit like this right now. What if the next guy comes in and says we need to draft OLINE and keep campbell?? Until Vinny is gone, and Danny just freaking signs the checks this is what we'll deal with.

Interesting point in an article...We all know we have not drafted a Olineman in the 1st or 2nd round since 99 or 2000 (only 2, i think, in the 3rd round since then) but we have not drafted a RB since Betts!! How many f'n drafts is that by not selecting important positions?? I swear if this front office, meaning Vinny and Danny, are still doing the same shit next year as they have done the last 10 years, I AM DONE! We all need to stop going to freaking games, leave the seats empty, stop buying shit until something changes. Nothing will change as long as we keep supporting this crap.

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[quote=#56fanatic;638319]I understand what your saying, but honestly these two scouting players is just the shit that irritates me to death. The owner wouldn't know the difference between a good and bad QB if I was in a uniform throwing balls around. And the fact that Vinny is still on these "trips" is the most frustrating thing along with doing this and not even having the season over, plus a lame duck coach, and no coach for next season at all. This FO doesn't even need to be doing shit like this right now. What if the next guy comes in and says we need to draft OLINE and keep campbell?? Until Vinny is gone, and Danny just freaking signs the checks this is what we'll deal with. [/quote]

How do you know we don't have scouts going all over the country (along with Scott Campbell and Vinny Cerrato-since, you know, they oversee it all) scouting players at all positions?