Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;645380]It's not personal at all. I don't like Hall cause he's a punk. Trouble seems to follow the guy. Jacobs slugged him for a reason. You didn't see guys just taking swings at Darrell Green did you? You don't see Champ Bailey getting into fights, Or the guy on Oakland. Hall's been a bitch ever since he came into the NFL. Same with Landry. All I want AH to do is be a pro, and if he's not then I'll call him out. Sorry but I just don't drink the Kool Aid like you do.[/quote]

Let's not act like Jacobs is some saint, he swung because he's an a-hole.

Talk about someone who should just shut up and play.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;645275]don't hurt my feelings. :-([/quote]

lol, maybe it was a little much.

agree to disagree.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=saden1;645379]Does anyone know if skinsfan69 and irish are the same people?[/quote]

LOL

skinsfan69, I gotta say I admire your resolve. "I can't believe Vinny Cerrato has a radio show?!!!! Do you see other GMs with radio shows???" Well yeah...Bill Polian for one "Um...er..uh. well that's ok because he's awesome." "DeAngelo Hall is a punk. Sure Jacobs punched him but only after Hall grabbed his facemask!!!" Well actually...Jacobs grabbed Hall's facemask and punched him. "Um...er...uh...well I'm sure Hall must have said something about his mama first"

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

What's the big deal?
..............it's an adrenaline fueled testosterone fest. Once in a while the animal gets loose in "King of the Mountain" world......a couple guys throw down.
No harm done.......

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;645123]Two totally different situations. Did Mike Smith punch anyone? I didn't see him him flat out punch someone. He got in D. Hall's face and talked some shit and and there was some pushing and shoving. Please, don't even try to compare the two. If Mike Smith cold cocked someone his ass would've got a long suspension.[/quote]

You're right on part of this. Mike Smith is much worse. I've been trying to find a video, but can't. But if I remember correct Smith did throw an elbow and he definitely instigated the violence. Smith should have gotten suspended but Goodell held him to a different standard.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=SmootSmack;645405]LOL

skinsfan69, I gotta say I admire your resolve. "I can't believe Vinny Cerrato has a radio show?!!!! Do you see other GMs with radio shows???" Well yeah...Bill Polian for one "Um...er..uh. well that's ok because he's awesome." "DeAngelo Hall is a punk. Sure Jacobs punched him but only after Hall grabbed his facemask!!!" Well actually...Jacobs grabbed Hall's facemask and punched him. "Um...er...uh...well I'm sure Hall must have said something about his mama first"[/quote]

And I love how you compared Riggo and Big Al. LOL.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=Mattyk;645392]Let's not act like Jacobs is some saint, he swung because he's an a-hole.

Talk about someone who should just shut up and play.[/quote]

I agree 100%.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;645380]It's not personal at all. I don't like Hall cause he's a punk. Trouble seems to follow the guy. Jacobs slugged him for a reason. You didn't see guys just taking swings at Darrell Green did you? You don't see Champ Bailey getting into fights, Or the guy on Oakland. Hall's been a bitch ever since he came into the NFL.[/quote]

Address the incident at hand. What, exactly, did Hall do wrong immediately before Jacobs threw punches his way? It seems your eyes or memory served you wrong, you got called out for it, and now you're making matters worse by failing to admit that you are wrong about what transpired on the play. Dragging up Hall's past (and it's not a terribly checkered one) is totally irrelevant to the discussion about the Jacobs-Hall-Haynesworth fight.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

Hall threw a little something before the punches to be honest, but whatever

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=tryfuhl;645436]Hall threw a little something before the punches to be honest, but whatever[/quote]

I can't be sure but I've watched it and it looks like Hall knocks the ball loose and while it's in the air he shoves Jacobs away from the ball and Jacobs sticks his hand in Halls face and one of his buddies grabs Halls facemask and throws him down. Really too much is being made out it but if I were AH I would have done the same thing. It's no big thing but the officiating has been horrendous all year. If not Jacobs, the guy who threw Hall down should have been flagged.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=tryfuhl;645436]Hall threw a little something before the punches to be honest, but whatever[/quote]

He was just fighting for the ball, is all

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=tryfuhl;645436]Hall threw a little something before the punches to be honest, but whatever[/quote]

exactly. i'm done trying to expalin this to kool aid drinkers.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;645434]Address the incident at hand. What, exactly, did Hall do wrong immediately before Jacobs threw punches his way? It seems your eyes or memory served you wrong, you got called out for it, and now you're making matters worse by failing to admit that you are wrong about what transpired on the play. Dragging up Hall's past (and it's not a terribly checkered one) is totally irrelevant to the discussion about the Jacobs-Hall-Haynesworth fight.[/quote]

i'm over it sherriff. we'll just agree to disagree.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=SmootSmack;645443]He was just fighting for the ball, is all[/quote]

The more that I look at it the more that it seems like Hall started it

Go back and look.. hall knocks the ball loose, jacobs looks like he looks back at the ball and Hall comes in with a quick slap towards the face

I don't care because it's Jacobs but it's looking a lot more clear to me now

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;645444]exactly. i'm done trying to expalin this to kool aid drinkers.[/quote]

Skinsfan69 I saw exactly what you saw, Hall grabbed Jacobs face mask first and that's when the shit hit the fan, Jacobs is an asshole just like Hall who coincidentally trouble just seem to follow him. I was called names and insulted by a bunch of juveniles on this website because I disagree with them. For those who disagree, look at the tape in slow speed closely and you will see what we are talking about.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;645444]exactly. i'm done trying to expalin this to kool aid drinkers.[/quote]

Man this has nothing to do with drinking Kool Aid, just f'ing sticking up for your team. Well you seem to be sticking up for that bitch Jacob. You're a pathetic fan.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;645460]Skinsfan69 I saw exactly what you saw, Hall grabbed Jacobs face mask first and that's when the shit hit the fan, Jacobs is an asshole just like [B]Hall who coincidentally trouble just seem to follow him[/B]. I was called names and insulted by a bunch of juveniles on this website because I disagree with them. For those who disagree, look at the tape in slow speed closely and you will see what we are talking about.[/quote]

Care to elaborate? People keep talking about Hall as though he's some punk or thug without identifying what makes him a punk or a thug. I have no idea what he's done wrong in the past and I have no clue how any such prior events have any bearing whatsoever about the current discussion (i.e., what happened between Jacobs, Hall and Haynesworth). Please fill me in.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=Ruhskins;645461]Well you seem to be sticking up for that bitch Jacob. You're a pathetic fan.[/quote]

That's not really fair. I disagree with what he's said in this thread, but I don't think that makes him any less of a fan.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;645380]It's not personal at all. I don't like Hall cause he's a punk. Trouble seems to follow the guy. Jacobs slugged him for a reason. You didn't see guys just taking swings at Darrell Green did you? You don't see Champ Bailey getting into fights, Or the guy on Oakland. Hall's been a bitch ever since he came into the NFL. Same with Landry. All I want AH to do is be a pro, and if he's not then I'll call him out. Sorry but I just don't drink the Kool Aid like you do.[/quote]


You may not drink the kool aid but obvioulsy you are drinking something. Albert is the single most dominating presence on our defense. If you can't see this, you really aren't worth talking to.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

I will always love prince Albert, mainly because he is a beast when he is in the game, and forever a legend for stomping on the cowboys players head! Next year the d line will be allowed off the leash!

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=tryfuhl;645459]The more that I look at it the more that it seems like Hall started it

Go back and look.. hall knocks the ball loose, jacobs looks like he looks back at the ball and Hall comes in with a quick slap towards the face

I don't care because it's Jacobs but it's looking a lot more clear to me now[/quote]

Seen it multiple times from multiple angles. Hall didn't start anything

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=SmootSmack;645499]Seen it multiple times from multiple angles. Hall didn't start anything[/quote]

Yeah but he's a bitch, so that counts for something.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=Ruhskins;645461]Man this has nothing to do with drinking Kool Aid, just f'ing sticking up for your team. Well you seem to be sticking up for that bitch Jacob. You're a pathetic fan.[/quote]

I don't give two shits what you think. Where do you see me sticking up for Jacobs? I've lived and died with this team for around 34 years. I just don't like some of the guys on this team and if Joe Gibbs was still here I'm not sure we have guys like Hall and AH. To me they're not strong character guys or what I would call true Redskins. Hall signs his new deal, isn't here for 15 minutes and starts calling out teammates, gets in fights yet can't tackle Jake Delhomme. Sorry but I just can't root for guys like him. If you can then good for you. Have at it.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;645546]I don't give two shits what you think. Where do you see me sticking up for Jacobs? I've lived and died with this team for around 34 years. I just don't like some of the guys on this team and if Joe Gibbs was still here I'm not sure we have guys like Hall and AH. To me they're not strong character guys or what I would call true Redskins. Hall signs his new deal, isn't here for 15 minutes and starts calling out teammates, gets in fights yet can't tackle Jake Delhomme. Sorry but I just can't root for guys like him. If you can then good for you. Have at it.[/quote]

hall has had some issues before coming to washington but albert only had that one and he said it was a mistake and that he had matured since then. i wouldn't consider albert a bad character guy. hall,i can kinda see it sometimes but as for this particular incident hall did nothing wrong, he played through the whistle and jacobs did not, jacobs got mad and a little over agressive and we all saw what transpired.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;645546]I don't give two shits what you think. Where do you see me sticking up for Jacobs? I've lived and died with this team for around 34 years. I just don't like some of the guys on this team and if Joe Gibbs was still here I'm not sure we have guys like Hall and AH. To me they're not strong character guys or what I would call true Redskins. Hall signs his new deal, isn't here for 15 minutes and starts calling out teammates, gets in fights yet can't tackle Jake Delhomme. Sorry but I just can't root for guys like him. If you can then good for you. Have at it.[/quote]

I'm just calling out your weak arguments against these guys. Both Hall and Haynesworth have had their troubles and are definitely not the best character guys on the team. Yet I think its bogus when you make this stuff up (Hayesworth is fat lazy, when he's taken 70% of the snaps; Hall started the fight, when he really didn't). We know you don't like these guys period. But don't try to make these bogus arguments and get all upset when people call you out.

And stop pretending like the Redskins have not had players with character issues. While Riggins is great, do you think he was an upstanding citizen? Hell no. Dexter Manley, tons of issues off the field. Hell, even Sean Taylor had his issues too before he turned the corner (i.e. spitting incident with Michael Pittman). Shit, I hate Laron Landry because I think he has character issues, I think that Clinton Portis can have character issues, but you won't find me making up stuff about these guys to try to prove some point.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;645481]That's not really fair. I disagree with what he's said in this thread, but I don't think that makes him any less of a fan.[/quote]

I know, I have a terrible habit of saying stuff like that, I need to stop. I just find it bogus when people go out of their way and make shit up when about players in the team they play. As long as any guy is wearing burgundy and gold, I'll root for them (even though sometimes some of them make it reaaaally hard to do so).

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

Just saw on T.V. the league fined AH 10 grand...Jacobs 7500 and Hall....0. That's zip...nada for Hall. Apparently they didn't see that he did anything wrong.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=Ruhskins;645630]I'm just calling out your weak arguments against these guys. Both Hall and Haynesworth have had their troubles and are definitely not the best character guys on the team. Yet I think its bogus when you make this stuff up (Hayesworth is fat lazy, when he's taken 70% of the snaps; [B]Hall started the fight, when he really didn't). We know[/B] you don't like these guys period. But don't try to make these bogus arguments and get all upset when people call you out.

And stop pretending like the Redskins have not had players with character issues. While Riggins is great, do you think he was an upstanding citizen? Hell no. Dexter Manley, tons of issues off the field. Hell, even Sean Taylor had his issues too before he turned the corner (i.e. spitting incident with Michael Pittman). Shit, I hate Laron Landry because I think he has character issues, I think that Clinton Portis can have character issues, but you won't find me making up stuff about these guys to try to prove some point.[/quote]

LOOK AT THE VIDEO!!!!!! It's on You Tube. Eli is getting sacked and the wistle is clearly BLOWN!!! Hall comes running up to Jacobs and nails him in the facemask AFTER the wistle is blown. The play was CLEARLY blown dead. Hall DESERVED to get punched and thrown to the ground like the girl that he is cause he acted like a bitch. You're getting your ass beat 38-12 and you're looking for a fight with a guy who will stomp your face in??? I can't stand Hall and I don't care if he didn't get fined. He started it cause he's a loser, always has been and always will be and that's why he's on his 3rd team and he's only like 25??? And to top it off Reed D. is holding Hall back and Hall actually takes a swing a Reed. I hope we have no cap next year so a total house cleaning can begin.

Manley and Riggins were no saints. But they didn't come in out of shape and they didn't pull the on the field antics that Hall does. Personally I don't care what these guys do off the field. But RESPECT THE GAME. That means be a fucking PROFESSIONAL. AH isn't one cause he's not in shape. If you can't see that then so be it. And even though he plays in 70% of the plays he's constantly loafing. Hall and Landry and just need to grow the hell up and just ball. No need to showboat and start fights when your team SUCKS. Do you see Orakpo acting like a bitch on the field? NO! Cause he all about business and taking care of his business. And even though he's a rookie he's already more mature than Hall and Landry.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

Who cares about caharacter issues, as l;ong as you don't get suspended. I want the team to win, and also the player who stomped on the Cowbopys center's face. So what?This is football, you want a character sport watch golf. I heard they are very professional on TV like an office. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

havent read all the posts sense the fines come out but i am really pissed just for the simple fact that jacobs threw his hands up like was in a f*ing boxing match. he wanted to fight and big al was just taking up for little hall. jacobs has always been a bitch i know al hasnt had the best of reputations but come on.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

Just like the Atlanta fight, this one began because Hall and Jacobs are both windbags who talk a good game, and struggle to back it up on the field. It's not often that our corner will end up on their running back, but c'mon, who among us is honestly shocked that this happened?

As for Hall, I mean, the best thing that came out of this is that Haynesworth was willing to come over and defend him when Jacobs started swinging. No one on New York was quick to rush to the defense of Jacobs. That says something. Maybe it's just that the Giants are more focused on the game than the Redskins are. Or maybe it says that they don't like Jacobs. Or maybe both.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

Look, I always wanted AH to come here, even when people didn't want him here, I feel that more people like that he's here now, and rightfully so. He's easily our best Dlineman, and plays with heart and how the game is supposed to be played. Remember against Atlanta D-Hall got into the scuffle then the whole falcon bench comes over and surrounds D-hall, and starts pushing him. Then out of nowwhere comes fat al and he just pushes a bunch of falcons aside and get Dhall out of there, and makes other falcons scarred of him. Then came the other night when again D-hall(see a trend here) gets into a scuffle with brandon jacobs and not many people are gonna fight brandon, but who comes to the rescue, the $100 million man, 6'6 350lb Albert Haynesworth. He's not afraid to swing and start shit with the other team. He could care less about fines. Oh and I forgot to mention, him making all that money being guranteed, it surprises me and Really makes me happy that every time he gets injured he doesn't say, "I can't play this week," or "Sit me coach". No, he makes efforts to play and even when he injures his ankle in games or gets carted off the field, he still returns, and still wants to play to prove something to the other team and his own team. I also like Al because he isn't afraid to speak his mind, if he thinks we played bad he'll say it. If Blache is holding him back, he'll say it, if Zorn is holding him out from practicing he'll say it.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;644943]Butz was one of the very first if not the first 300lb DT so he was way ahead of his time. Guy never came off the field and didn't play soft.[/quote]

Yo how old were you when Dave Butz and Darrly Grant played? Do you remember Diron Talbert and Ron McDole? How about Duane Thomas when you were speaking about character issues on a another post.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;645681]Look, I always wanted AH to come here, even when people didn't want him here, I feel that more people like that he's here now, and rightfully so. He's easily our best Dlineman, and plays with heart and how the game is supposed to be played. Remember against Atlanta D-Hall got into the scuffle then the whole falcon bench comes over and surrounds D-hall, and starts pushing him. Then out of nowwhere comes fat al and he just pushes a bunch of falcons aside and get Dhall out of there, and makes other falcons scarred of him. Then came the other night when again D-hall(see a trend here) gets into a scuffle with brandon jacobs and not many people are gonna fight brandon, but who comes to the rescue, the $100 million man, 6'6 350lb Albert Haynesworth. He's not afraid to swing and start shit with the other team. He could care less about fines. Oh and I forgot to mention, him making all that money being guranteed, it surprises me and Really makes me happy that every time he gets injured he doesn't say, "I can't play this week," or "Sit me coach". No, he makes efforts to play and even when he injures his ankle in games or gets carted off the field, he still returns, and still wants to play to prove something to the other team and his own team. I also like Al because he isn't afraid to speak his mind, if he thinks we played bad he'll say it. If Blache is holding him back, he'll say it, if Zorn is holding him out from practicing he'll say it.[/quote]

I would appreciate it more if D Hall took a beating and Haynesworth didn't stand up for him but our defense didn't bitch out and give up 45 points to the Giants at FedEx but that's just me.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;644951]We're better w/out him. The defense was better last year. Yes we're getting more sacks but that's cause of Orakpo. AH will make a great play and then he loafs the next 5 plays cause he has no stamina. What do you think guys like Griff and Goldston think looking at this dude always come out the game yet he makes 10 times what they do? Sorry but give me two guys that hustle at half his price. [U][/U]I would've brought in Tank Johnson.[/quote]

Great so you would rather bring in a convicted criminal who went to jail for numerous gun charges. That is why you are not ever going to be in a supervisor position because you are not a good judge of character.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=GTripp0012;645070]The above post had not one thing to do with stats. I can pull out all sorts of fancy metrics that pinpoint exactly where our defense ranks and what our pass rush ranks and such, but there's nothing that would justify the above.

Like you said, I think the Titans are missing him, but he had 8 sacks last year with them. I think our scheme is primarily responsible for the downturn in production. And I think he's been great here, particularly in short yardage situations. I think there's a whole number of stats that would show his impact for our team. But ultimately, I feel that there's not enough there to suggest that Carter and Orakpo's production is due to anyone except themselves.[/quote]

Well A/H said Blache is not letting him play like he did with the Titans. He wants to be turned lose.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;645654]LOOK AT THE VIDEO!!!!!! It's on You Tube. Eli is getting sacked and the wistle is clearly BLOWN!!! Hall comes running up to Jacobs and nails him in the facemask AFTER the wistle is blown. The play was CLEARLY blown dead. Hall DESERVED to get punched and thrown to the ground like the girl that he is cause he acted like a bitch.[/quote]

Both Jacobs and Hall clearly did not hear the whistle...Jacobs got the ball and Hall made a play on the ball and stripped it. If you take of your biased glasses for a second, you'll see Hall watching the toss from Manning to Jacobs develop, and he goes for the ball. If anyone is being a bitch, it would be Jacobs, since he retaliated when Hall was going for the ball. Once again, weak argument from your part.

[quote=skinsfan69;645654]You're getting your ass beat 38-12 and you're looking for a fight with a guy who will stomp your face in???[/quote]

Yeah he was looking for a fight, I mean it's not like he was going for the ball or something. :doh:

[quote=skinsfan69;645654]I can't stand Hall and [B]I don't care if he didn't get fined.[/B] [B]He started it cause he's a loser[/B][/quote]

Obviously you can't stand thet guy, so much that you come and make these bogus arguments (on a thread that wasn't even about Hall!!). And they are bogus because the league didn't fine him. You think in a league where Chad Ochocinco gets fined 20K for wearing a f'ing sombrero, a player who started a fight wouldn't get fined?

[quote=skinsfan69;645654]Manley and Riggins were no saints. But they didn't come in out of shape and they didn't pull the on the field antics that Hall does. Personally I don't care what these guys do off the field. But [B]RESPECT THE GAME. That means be a fucking PROFESSIONAL.[/B][/quote]

Manley was a great player, but you forget he was banned from the league for failing multiple drug tests, how's that being a professional and respecting the game? I'm sorry but when your actions off the field affect your play on the field, that's not being a professional (just ask Pacman Jones).

Once again, just give it up with this because you can't win when you make up stuff. Maybe you'll get lucky and Hall will do something, but until then just stick to the facts.

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

I'm thinking of changing the title of this thread to "Selective Memory Appreciation Thread" or "The Eyes See What They Want Appreciation Thread"

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/haynesworth-jacobs-fined-for-m.html]Redskins Insider - Haynesworth, Jacobs fined for Monday's skirmish[/url]

Fines for Jacobs & Al, but nothing for Hall. Again.

How does the bitch get away with it?

Re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread
 

that damned Hall. always a bridesmaid......