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This is not good for us. It sounds like Houston either fired or let Alex Gibbs go and Seattle picked him up. :(

Another person wrote that a former Bronco fan mentioned M.Shanahan fired A.Gibbs son while in Denver and Gibbs has not talked to M.Shanahan since.

[url=http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=315346]Alex Gibbs leaves Houston and goes to......Seattle?!? - EXTREMESKINS.com[/url]

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[quote=mlmdub130;653733]well that sucks

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/01/12/bengals-retain-defensive-coordinator-zimmer/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Bengals retain defensive coordinator Zimmer «[/url][/quote]

Not really. While I was innitialy intrigued by Zimmer, the more I read about his track record the more unimpressed I was. He had one great year in Dallas and that's pretty much it. There are much better options out there.

Romeo Crennel is by far the best choice in my opinion, but I don't think we're interested.

Haslett's a possibility , but I think we end up promoting Jerry Gray. At this point, it appears to be the lesser of two evils that Shanahan seems to be considering and one I would begrudgingly accept.

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Some more bad news or good I don't know....

[url=http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=315349]JLC [Twitter]: Zimmer re-signs with Bengals, Haslett will be new DC? - EXTREMESKINS.com[/url]

Apparently Zimmer resigned with Cinci. Maybe it's Haslett's time. 3-4 here we come.

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For those of you who want Haslett, consider this:

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider - Your daily source for news and commentary on the Washington Redskins, by Jason Reid[/url]

[QUOTE]As for Haslett, his most recent NFL defenses haven't been ranked particularly high, but few in NFL circles are going to question Haslett's defensive expertise. As interim coach in St. Louis in 2008, the Rams finished ranked 28th overall. [b]In his six years in New Orleans, the Saints' defenses were ranked eighth, 16th, 27th, 18th, 32nd and 14th. [/B][/QUOTE]

That's an average position of 19th. Why on earth would we want that?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;653746]For those of you who want Haslett, consider this:

[URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]Redskins Insider - Your daily source for news and commentary on the Washington Redskins, by Jason Reid[/URL][/quote]

Yeah I went looking at both Zimmer and Haslett's record and was not impressed with them either. If I was Shanahan I'd push fast and hard for Romeo Crennell. Although it sounds like it's almost a done deal in KC. I think he's trying to get back with coach's he worked with in New England in hopes the chemistry is right.

Who else is out there? I keep hearing about coach's that might get the axe that we might be able to use. People have said Wade Phillips, Jack Del Rio, but who is out there that is not coaching? I'll take them if they are 70yrs old. Unless we go after someone like a Gray (whome I'd rather just get away from) who is an Asst. to a DC.

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Apparently DeWayne Walker might be joining Carroll in Seattle as well. Interesting on Zimmer, I thought he would be considered for a head coaching job somewhere. But the options are limited.

I guess Slowik is still a possibility for D-Coordinator, and Jeff Jagodzinski for OL

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Ironically Gray seems like the best option right now. Which begs the question, how similar were the defenses under Williams and Blache?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;653729]So Zimmer is staying in Cincinnati...[/quote]

Dang

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I wouldn't mind us shocking everyone and going with Kirk Olivadotti...he doesn't really have the credentials though.

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I bet in the end it ends up being Slowik at this point.

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I think he's always been the safe fall-back

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Jim Mora Jr. is out there also and by the way.

Alex Gibbs to join Carroll

And if there was any thought that Shanahan might be bringing long-time assistant Alex Gibbs with him to Washington, you can forget about it. ESPN is reporting that Gibbs, most recently the assistant head coach of offense in Houston, will be joining Pete Carroll's staff in Seattle. Gibbs is considered to be the guru behind the zone-blocking scheme that has given Shanahan so much success over the years.

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I didn't think about Mora Jr. I wouldnt want him for the sole fact that he could leave for a head coaching job at the college or possibly even pro level at any given moment.

Gray appears to be the best bet for us at the moment. At the very least, we wouldn't have to go through the growing pains of switching to a 3-4 and it would allow time for his eventual on-staff replacement (probably Olivadotti) to develop so he could step in when Gray eventually lands a head coaching gig.

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Nevermind.. link was posted already

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Hixon's replacement

[url=http://www.buccaneers.com/team/staffdetail.aspx?coachid=180]Buccaneers.com | Staff[/url]

not official...yet

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[quote=SmootSmack;653776]Hixon's replacement

[URL="http://www.buccaneers.com/team/staffdetail.aspx?coachid=180"]Buccaneers.com | Staff[/URL]

not official...yet[/quote]

Well, at least he sounds better than Hixon.. I really hope Kelly, Thomas, and Mitchell will be coming on next season.. We need them to to do so, to elevate our offense..

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[quote=SBXVII;653750]Yeah I went looking at both Zimmer and Haslett's record and was not impressed with them either. If I was Shanahan I'd push fast and hard for Romeo Crennell. Although it sounds like it's almost a done deal in KC. I think he's trying to get back with coach's he worked with in New England in hopes the chemistry is right.

Who else is out there? I keep hearing about coach's that might get the axe that we might be able to use. People have said Wade Phillips, Jack Del Rio, but who is out there that is not coaching? I'll take them if they are 70yrs old. Unless we go after someone like a Gray (whome I'd rather just get away from) who is an Asst. to a DC.[/quote]

Haslett was HC in both NO and St. Louis. Somebody help me out, where did he ever serve strictly on the defensive side of the ball, and who was his DC in NO?
The numbers reflecting his order of finish has such a wide disparity from year to year one has to wonder what brought about such up & down seasons in the defensive rankings.

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[quote=SmootSmack;653776]Hixon's replacement

[url=http://www.buccaneers.com/team/staffdetail.aspx?coachid=180]Buccaneers.com | Staff[/url]

not official...yet[/quote]

I forgot he was our WR coach in 2001. Just about the only guy who ever got anything out of Westbrook and Gardner. Feels like an upgrade from Hixon for sure.

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I really hope a 3-4 isn't the outcome of whoever they pick.

Maybe just because I'm resistant to change & want to see tradition maintained, but also because we're lacking LBs & we have DTs that have never played true nose tackle, though I know one side of the line is quite similar to that.

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[quote=freddyg12;653787]I really hope a 3-4 isn't the outcome of whoever they pick.

Maybe just because I'm resistant to change & want to see tradition maintained, but also because we're lacking LBs & we have DTs that have never played true nose tackle, though I know one side of the line is quite similar to that.[/quote]

I agree. Well said.

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[quote=SmootSmack;653776]Hixon's replacement

[url=http://www.buccaneers.com/team/staffdetail.aspx?coachid=180]Buccaneers.com | Staff[/url]

not official...yet[/quote]

it says his title is Asst HC/WR's. Are we gonna create a Super Asst HC title?
He certainly sounds like a solid upgrade, so I would be happy.

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[quote=SmootSmack;653776]Hixon's replacement

[URL="http://www.buccaneers.com/team/staffdetail.aspx?coachid=180"]Buccaneers.com | Staff[/URL]

not official...yet[/quote]


Funny, I remember you mentioning in another thread that Antonio Bryant could be one of our FA targets this offseason and what do you know....this guy used to coach him. How ironic ;)

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This is how a Jim Haslett-run defense (as DC) have fared:

1996 New Orleans #20
1997 Pittsburgh #11
1998 Pittsburgh #7
1999 Pittsburgh #12

Given how some good DCs have not done such a good job as HCs (i.e. Grilliams, Spags) this may be a better way to determine how well Haslett can be as a DC.

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[quote=Longtimefan;653781]Haslett was HC in both NO and St. Louis. Somebody help me out, where did he ever serve strictly on the defensive side of the ball, and who was his DC in NO?
The numbers reflecting his order of finish has such a wide disparity from year to year one has to wonder what brought about such up & down seasons in the defensive rankings.[/quote]

Haslett was DC with the St. Louis for 2006, 2007, and 2008. During the 2008 season, he became the interim HC.

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[quote=Ruhskins;653793]This is how a Jim Haslett-run defense (as DC) have fared:

1996 New Orleans #20
1997 Pittsburgh #11
1998 Pittsburgh #7
1999 Pittsburgh #12

Given how some good DCs have not done such a good job as HCs (i.e. Grilliams, Spags) this may be a better way to determine how well Haslett can be as a DC.[/quote]

Aaron Brooks and Rick Venturi both played a vital role in his won-loss record in NO when he was HC there.

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[quote=Longtimefan;653796]Aaron Brooks and Rick Venturi both played a vital role in his won-loss record in NO when he was HC there.[/quote]

Actually the years that I posted there (1996-1999) were the years when Haslett was defensive coordinator (and the rankings his defense got each of those years).

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[quote=Ruhskins;653799]Actually the years that I posted there (1996-1999) were the years when Haslett was defensive coordinator (and the rankings his defense got each of those years).[/quote]

I thought he was DC in NO in 1996 and was DC in Pittsburgh from 1997-99

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We need to hire a DC that plays racketball so Dan won't miss Vinny!

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[quote=Ruhskins;653799]Actually the years that I posted there (1996-1999) were the years when Haslett was defensive coordinator (and the rankings his defense got each of those years).[/quote]

I get what you're saying if you're combining the three years together, one in NO & two in Pitts. My bad, I understand what you mean.

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Jerry Gray is interviewing today for the DC job:

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Gray-will-interview-for-coordinator-job-today.html]Biggs: Gray will interview for coordinator job today | National Football Post[/url]

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[quote=Redskins_P;653826]Jerry Gray is interviewing today for the DC job:

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Gray-will-interview-for-coordinator-job-today.html]Biggs: Gray will interview for coordinator job today | National Football Post[/url][/quote]

I still say Gray should get it. Hasslet doesn't have a good track record since being a D-Coordinator for Pittsburgh in the 90's. Maybe he had bad personel in St. Louis but Gray has overseen a top defensive unit more recently then Hasslet did.

If he plays an attacking style of defense and is willing to use Haynesworth properly then I say we go for it.

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Go with Gray or Romeo...

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If Gray brings a new philosophy in than great. If he tries to plug guys into roles they don't fit into because he won't build a scheme around what he has, I will vomit, loudly.

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[quote=Redskins_P;653826]Jerry Gray is interviewing today for the DC job:

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Gray-will-interview-for-coordinator-job-today.html]Biggs: Gray will interview for coordinator job today | National Football Post[/url][/quote]

The Giants are after him apparently.

Does Crennel have any experience with the 4-3 and/or any connection with Shanahan? I think if the team was looking at him at all we would have heard something.

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I guess I wouldn't mind Romeo or Haslett coming in here and implementing a 3-4/4-3 hybrid defense like the one the cardinals had the year they went to the super bowl.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;653837]I guess I wouldn't mind Romeo or Haslett coming in here and implementing a 3-4/4-3 hybrid defense like the one the cardinals had the year they went to the super bowl.[/quote]

foget it...Romeo is gone..in KC now
[url=http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/football/other_nfl/view/20100112report_romeo_crennel_chiefs_agree/srvc=home&position=recent]Report: Romeo Crennel, Chiefs agree - BostonHerald.com[/url]

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4819300]Alex Gibbs joins new Seattle Seahawks staff - ESPN[/url]

Scratch him off the list. Besides, hasn't Bugel ran zone blocking here?

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Interesting that we - so far - don't see MS/BA throwing money around to get the people they supposedly want, I wonder if it's patience, or just not settled on who they want, or if they can't for some reason attract them. I know it's only been a few days, but certainly the old style was to get them in as quickly as they could and offer a bunch of cash.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;653862]Interesting that we - so far - don't see MS/BA throwing money around to get the people they supposedly want, I wonder if it's patience, or just not settled on who they want, or if they can't for some reason attract them. I know it's only been a few days, but certainly the old style was to get them in as quickly as they could and offer a bunch of cash.[/quote]

And last week Shanny said that he was hoping to get his staff assembled by Wednesday 1/13. It looks like that is not going to happen.

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[quote=Lotus;653863]And last week Shanny said that he was hoping to get his staff assembled by Wednesday 1/13. It looks like that is not going to happen.[/quote]

I thought he gave himself 2 weeks, I didn't realize he was trying to have it complete by tomorrow. I would think we ought to see a DC named soon then.