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just looking at the teams that were in the afc and nfc championship teams over the past few years, it looks like most of those teams DIDN'T have a first round QB that the team drafted. atleast half got to that point with veteran QBs. this further makes me think that whomever we draft in the 1st round, should not be someone we take a gamble on. there are lots of ways to build successful franchises. you dont need to draft a top5 QB to be successful anymore than you need to draft a top5 left tackle or pass rusher. its all about making smart decisions in free agency, keeping your draft picks, and making wise use of the picks you have.

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[quote=SmootSmack;676493]No word as of this morning.

I would say that usually when it's the Redskins themselves that tell me "Big news today" it's usually something "big" like "Notre Dame to play at FedEx" or "Snyder sending food to Haiti and Chile" When it's actual big news, I hear it from elsewhere.

I just hope Carter knows how to make good spaghetti[/quote]
so you heard it from elsewhere

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[quote=SmootSmack;676493]No word as of this morning.

I would say that usually when it's the Redskins themselves that tell me "Big news today" it's usually something "big" like "Notre Dame to play at FedEx" or "Snyder sending food to Haiti and Chile" When it's actual big news, I hear it from elsewhere.

I just hope Carter knows how to make good spaghetti[/quote]

So it was the Redskins themselves that told you guys that big news was coming today?

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[quote=tryfuhl;676542]so you heard it from elsewhere[/quote]

No, heard from the Redskins to expect big news today. Like I said though, it could be the announcement of a charity event or something like that

Also, checked this morning, been told that no trade to the Saints has happened. Wasn't told whether it could, might, would happen.

Q: Did the Redskins trade Andre Carter to the Saints last night

A: No

Q: Are they talking?

A: He's a Redskin

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I think there's something going on, something more than just some fluff news, but I don't know what it is

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[quote=SmootSmack;676545]No, heard from the Redskins to expect big news today. Like I said though, it could be the announcement of a charity event or something like that

Also, checked this morning, been told that no trade to the Saints has happened. Wasn't told whether it could, might, would happen.

Q: Did the Redskins trade Andre Carter to the Saints last night

A: No

Q: Are they talking?

A: He's a Redskin[/quote]

oh.. so this could just be the same thing larry michael was talking about on redskins nation the other night, whatever that is

could just be new cleats in that case, could be a porter signing

could be a cut (Portis? haha not likely)

who knows.. staying tuned in

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[quote=tryfuhl;676549]oh.. so this could just be the same thing larry michael was talking about on redskins nation the other night, whatever that is

could just be new cleats in that case, could be a porter signing

could be a cut (Portis? haha not likely)

who knows.. staying tuned in[/quote]

What was Larry Michael saying?

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[quote=SmootSmack;676550]What was Larry Michael saying?[/quote]

he just said expect big news out of redskins park friday

for all I know it could be silver and blue tackling dummies coming from him

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Larry is the king of fluff news...he says he has a major announcement coming and then it usually ends up being something like the fields at Redskins Park being watered.

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Interesting, hadn't heard that Michael said that. I never really listen to him anyway up here

Anyway, whatever I hear I will, of course, let you all know

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big news

porter leaves with/without contract

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[quote=tryfuhl;676552]he just said expect big news out of redskins park friday

[B]for all I know it could be silver and blue tackling dummies[/B] coming from him[/quote]

But we're not getting a new QB until draft. Zing!
:laughing-

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#Redskins confirm that Andre Carter still plays for them, and his Wiki page is corrected. Just what we need, to be chasing Wiki rumors.

[url=http://twitter.com/Rich_Campbell/status/10724721118]Twitter / Rich Campbell: #Redskins confirm that And ...[/url]

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[quote=mredskins;676534]Here is what makes me laugh on here at times folks are like the Browns suck, the Raiders suck, the Chief suck, etc... Guess what we suck too! Other NFL cities fans look at us as sucking.

It reminds me of my grandmother when I go to visit her in the old folks home she always whispers to me[I] "bunch old people in here"[/I]. Makes me want to scream you are old too![/quote]

yeah its a hard pill to swallow realizing we are what we are. a bottom 5 or 10 team the past 5 years/decade or so.

i bust on carter for being a one trick pony, but dang, he had a nice season last year, made some plays on his own, switched back and forth from the left to right side when rak came in at DE.

i dont know if i would trade him for a 3rd. i guess we have to though. good player, seems like a great personality in the locker room, takes being in shape and ready to play very seriously, his wife is a super educated sports fitness lady.

it would suck losing a guy of that character.

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I would def trade him for a 3rd.. nothing against him, you just wonder how much longer he can perform and how so in this scheme..

pacman supposed to workout for a handful of teams

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[quote=mredskins;676532]Have you not noticed in the last ten years other then two playoff years we have sucked big time, I am not saying just those miss picks have made us suck but sure didn't help us get better.[/quote]Nothing like a nice dose of hyperbole.

Just looking at winning percentage since 2000, ours is 43.7%. A quick glance at Cleveland at 31% shows a big difference. Cleveland sucks. We're mediocre, sub-par, below average, but we don't "suck".

Teams that "suck" don't make the playoffs twice in the last five years. We had a horrible season last year (it sucked), but IMO that was the best thing long term for the franchise. It spurred a much needed house cleaning and hopefully we're moving forward in the right direction.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;676606]Nothing like a nice dose of hyperbole.

Just looking at winning percentage since 2000, ours is 43.7%. A quick glance at Cleveland at 31% shows a big difference. Cleveland sucks. We're mediocre, sub-par, below average, but we don't "suck".

Teams that "suck" don't make the playoffs twice in the last five years. We had a horrible season last year (it sucked), but IMO that was the best thing long term for the franchise. It spurred a much needed house cleaning and hopefully we're moving forward in the right direction.[/quote]

Agreed, we've been painfully mediocre. There are several teams that have been much worse off.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;676536]just looking at the teams that were in the afc and nfc championship teams over the past few years, it looks like most of those teams DIDN'T have a first round QB that the team drafted. atleast half got to that point with veteran QBs. this further makes me think that whomever we draft in the 1st round, should not be someone we take a gamble on. there are lots of ways to build successful franchises. you dont need to draft a top5 QB to be successful anymore than you need to draft a top5 left tackle or pass rusher. its all about making smart decisions in free agency, keeping your draft picks, and making wise use of the picks you have.[/quote]

I think it's all about fulfilling your needs. I think sometimes it's easy to get caught up in, "WOW that guys fantastic!" Yes he might be an upgrade at his position, but does that position need to be upgraded as much as another? Is it a large upgrade that would make a difference in wins and losses? And do you ignore your greatest needs by taking this guy? Sometimes you're stuck and have to take BPA, but if at all possible, trade down and address your needs. When you have the same needs year after year, somethings wrong with the way you're drafting.

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Ok we are mediocre awesome! When did we get our trophy.

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[quote=53Fan;676627]I think it's all about fulfilling your needs. I think sometimes it's easy to get caught up in, "WOW that guys fantastic!" Yes he might be an upgrade at his position, but does that position need to be upgraded as much as another? Is it a large upgrade that would make a difference in wins and losses? And do you ignore your greatest needs by taking this guy? Sometimes you're stuck and have to take BPA, but if at all possible, trade down and address your needs. [B]When you have the same needs year after year, somethings wrong with the way you're drafting.[/B][/quote]

Well said. Considering the depth of this draft and the number of needs this team has, i think our best option is to trade down and pick up as many picks in rounds 1 and 2 as possible. With multiple picks, we shouldn't have to reach to fill any of our actual needs.

if we can't trade down, we need to make sure that whomever we select at 4 meets a need AND is close to being the BPA.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;676632]Well said. Considering the depth of this draft and the number of needs this team has, [B]i think our best option is to trade down and pick up as many picks in rounds 1 and 2 as possible.[/B] With multiple picks, we shouldn't have to reach to fill any of our actual needs.

if we can't trade down, we need to make sure that whomever we select at 4 meets a need AND is close to being the BPA.[/quote]

You know, if Shanny is not sold on Clausen, but Buffalo is, we might see this:
Washington sends Buffalo #4 overall pick (1800 draft value chart points)
Buffalo sends Washington #9 overall and #41 overall (1840 points)

We slide down to #9 and pick up a second rounder

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[quote=Lotus;676644]You know, if Shanny is not sold on Clausen, but Buffalo is, we might see this:
Washington sends Buffalo #4 overall pick (1800 draft value chart points)
Buffalo sends Washington #9 overall and #41 overall (1840 points)

We slide down to #9 and pick up a second rounder[/quote]

That'd be great

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ESPN already calling Dallas the SB winners.. missed who said it but one guy said 13 wins.. guy before him said best team in the NFL, etc

never stops does it?

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[quote=Lotus;676644]You know, if Shanny is not sold on Clausen, but Buffalo is, we might see this:
Washington sends Buffalo #4 overall pick (1800 draft value chart points)
Buffalo sends Washington #9 overall and #41 overall (1840 points)

We slide down to #9 and pick up a second rounder[/quote]

would love that.. hit the 3rd OT or so

either that or slide back a bit more towards mid and pick up a 3rd or early 4th

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[quote=Lotus;676644]You know, if Shanny is not sold on Clausen, but Buffalo is, we might see this:
Washington sends Buffalo #4 overall pick (1800 draft value chart points)
Buffalo sends Washington #9 overall and #41 overall (1840 points)

We slide down to #9 and pick up a second rounder[/quote]

Now that's what I'm talking about!!

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[quote=Lotus;676644]You know, if Shanny is not sold on Clausen, but Buffalo is, we might see this:
Washington sends Buffalo #4 overall pick (1800 draft value chart points)
Buffalo sends Washington #9 overall and #41 overall (1840 points)

We slide down to #9 and pick up a second rounder[/quote]

If we miss out on Bradford that would be the best possible outcome. Like you said though...its assuming Shanny doesn't love Clausen and none of us really know how he even rates these QB's.

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[quote=celts32;676656]If we miss out on Bradford that would be the best possible outcome. Like you said though...its assuming Shanny doesn't love Clausen and none of us really know how he even rates these QB's.[/quote]

Off topic, but I miss your old sig. I used to live vicariously through that sig

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[quote=Lotus;676644]You know, if Shanny is not sold on Clausen, but Buffalo is, we might see this:
Washington sends Buffalo #4 overall pick (1800 draft value chart points)
Buffalo sends Washington #9 overall and #41 overall (1840 points)

We slide down to #9 and pick up a second rounder[/quote]

that would make me happy beyond belief. its possible the skins are already trying to manipulate the situation to increase the likelyhood something like this occurs. rumor had it the bills were interested in trading for Campbell. Perhaps we rejected their overtures, in part, to increase Buffalo's interest in Clausen.

With those picks, we could probably get:

#9 - Dez Bryant, WR, Ok State
#36 - Tim Tebow, QB, Florida
#41 - Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida

Oh wait, i forgot Vinny's gone. With Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen making the picks, we could end up with:

#9 - Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
#36 - Jahvid Best, RB, California
#41 - Jared Odrick, DT, PSU

This would make me very, very happy.

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[quote=SmootSmack;676657]Off topic, but I miss your old sig. I used to live vicariously through that sig[/quote]

What did it say? I don't even remember. I remember having some quote from Marty after dumping Vinny but that doesn't apply now that Vinny is gone again.

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[quote=celts32;676664]What did it say? I don't even remember. I remember having some quote from Marty after dumping Vinny but that doesn't apply now that Vinny is gone again.[/quote]

It was a link to this...

[url=http://www.stevesprinceofsteaks.com/]Steves Prince of Steaks - Philly Cheese Steaks[/url]

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Does anyone know how the porter visit went?

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[quote=Mattyk;676610]Agreed, we've been [B]painfully mediocre[/B]. There are several teams that have been much worse off.[/quote]

Great summary of the skins 2000s

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[quote=SmootSmack;676666]It was a link to this...

[url=http://www.stevesprinceofsteaks.com/]Steves Prince of Steaks - Philly Cheese Steaks[/url][/quote]

Oh yea...thats my place! I grew up like 5 minutes from there in Philly. Best in the world. Thier trick that seperated them from the other good places in Philly was that they use liquid american cheese. They slather that on the roll instead of slices or cheese wiz like the other places use. So good...they put that cheese on the fries also. I need a road trip...

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[QUOTE=53Fan;676627]I think it's all about fulfilling your needs. I think sometimes it's easy to get caught up in, "WOW that guys fantastic!" Yes he might be an upgrade at his position, but does that position need to be upgraded as much as another? Is it a large upgrade that would make a difference in wins and losses? And do you ignore your greatest needs by taking this guy? Sometimes you're stuck and have to take BPA, but if at all possible, trade down and address your needs. [B]When you have the same needs year after year, somethings wrong with the way you're drafting.[/[/B]QUOTE]

True, also in our case something was wrong w/decisions being made about drafts, i.e. trading picks that seriously hindered the team's ability to address needs.

Pick by pick I think the skins have actually drafted fairly well in the danny era, it's just been a problem of burning picks for little return, see B Loyd, J. Taylor, TJ Duckett, even the Champ trade.

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[quote=celts32;676670]Oh yea...thats my place! I grew up like 5 minutes from there in Philly. Best in the world. Thier trick that seperated them from the other good places in Philly was that they use liquid american cheese. They slather that on the roll instead of slices or cheese wiz like the other places use. So good...they put that cheese on the fries also. I need a road trip...[/quote]


that link shows nothing but the background wallpaper. Always has been a link to nothing.

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Ethan Albright reported to be at the park

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[quote=mredskins;676673]that link shows nothing but the background wallpaper. Always has been a link to nothing.[/quote]

Which link...this one? [url=http://www.stevesprinceofsteaks.com/]Steves Prince of Steaks - Philly Cheese Steaks[/url]

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[quote=freddyg12;676672][QUOTE=53Fan;676627]I think it's all about fulfilling your needs. I think sometimes it's easy to get caught up in, "WOW that guys fantastic!" Yes he might be an upgrade at his position, but does that position need to be upgraded as much as another? Is it a large upgrade that would make a difference in wins and losses? And do you ignore your greatest needs by taking this guy? Sometimes you're stuck and have to take BPA, but if at all possible, trade down and address your needs. [B]When you have the same needs year after year, somethings wrong with the way you're drafting.[/[/B]QUOTE]

True, also in our case something was wrong w/decisions being made about drafts, i.e. trading picks that seriously hindered the team's ability to address needs.

Pick by pick I think the skins have actually drafted fairly well in the danny era, it's just been a problem of burning picks for little return, see B Loyd, J. Taylor, TJ Duckett, even the Champ trade.[/quote]

You had to bring up the TJ Duckett trade. I've almost forced myself to forget about it. Perhaps, one of the worst trades we've ever made. Uggg. I just can't see us making any of those stupid trades any more.

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might be the wrong thread...but does anybody have any information about how joey porter's visit at redskins park went? are we trying to sign him or what?

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and i'm also interested in knowing what this earth-shattering news is that Larry Michaels wants us all to be excited about. So far, i've heard nothing, so i'm assuming that nothing of import is happening or will be announced at Redskins park today.