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JLW428 04-23-2010 05:37 PM

Re: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2010
 
[quote=saden1;693257]Caps defense needs to get way better if they want to win the Cup...defense still wins championships and their defense leaves much to be desired. They need to finish the Habs tonight.[/quote]

Yeah we do need to improve our defence in the long run. I think we're making the right moves by bringing up big John. But for now, the caps motto is "we're going to score 5/6 goals, can you?"

So far this mentality has worked. I mean, you cant really argue with the best overall regular season record...and it was by a landslide.

saden1 04-23-2010 07:06 PM

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[quote=JLW428;693259]Yeah we do need to improve our defence in the long run. I think we're making the right moves by bringing up big John. But for now, the caps motto is [B]"we're going to score 5/6 goals, can you?"[/B]

So far this mentality has worked. I mean, you cant really argue with the best overall regular season record...and it was by a landslide.[/quote]

That's the kind of mindset that gets you beat. The deeper you go into the playoff the better the defenses get....WTF are they going to do when they can't score 5/6 goals? They sure as shit won't have a good enough defense to stop the other team from scoring.

mlmdub130 04-23-2010 07:13 PM

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:doh:uhg

mlmdub130 04-23-2010 07:23 PM

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:doh: :doh:

mlmdub130 04-23-2010 08:20 PM

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:woot:

tryfuhl 04-23-2010 09:22 PM

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Lot of shots coming, just nothing getting in.. let's go ahead and put this away

mlmdub130 04-24-2010 08:56 AM

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what an awful game, and maybe i'm just focusing in on him to much but green is still not playing up to par, but he wasn't the only one there were a ton of shitty passes across the middle that got picked off. varly is a freaking stud though great game from him yet again. and i hate to harp on it again but the refs are f-ing us hard in this series i thought it was because because we were in mtl, but last night was pretty awful as well i mean how do they miss 6 guys on the ice we should have been up by 2 men. i'm sure we'll beat their ass in mtl but would have been nice to win at home and get some rest

mooby 04-24-2010 02:20 PM

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I think if we win this series we play Philly since they'd be the lowest remaining seed available unless Boston wins their series (not sure whether it's Boston or Philly at the 7 seed. )

JLee9718 04-24-2010 04:22 PM

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I'm getting antsy about the Caps and Montreal...If their goalie gets hot, we could end up watching other teams compete for the cup. I hate to be pessimistic, but...

JLW428 04-25-2010 03:24 PM

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[quote=saden1;693362]That's the kind of mindset that gets you beat. The deeper you go into the playoff the better the defenses get....WTF are they going to do when they can't score 5/6 goals? They sure as shit won't have a good enough defense to stop the other team from scoring.[/quote]

Ok, take it easy buddy. My point is that its a little late now to worry about building up a good defensive corps. We have to work with what we have - a high powered offense, on/off goal tending, and a so so defence.

skinsfan_nn 04-26-2010 05:49 PM

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Lets see if we can't seal the deal on the road tonight. I'm sure Gabby has chewed those asses out for a day or two...now it's time to respond.

We need to finish this thing.....TONIGHT!

Second line needs to step up and solid D is of key importance! Semin/Flash/Green get your heads outta your ass and play hockey.

LETS ROLL CAPS!!!!!

JLW428 04-26-2010 06:08 PM

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;695252]Lets see if we can't seal the deal on the road tonight. I'm sure Gabby has chewed those asses out for a day or two...now it's time to respond.

We need to finish this thing.....TONIGHT!

Second line needs to step up and solid D is of key importance! Semin/Flash/Green get your heads outta your ass and play hockey.

LETS ROLL CAPS!!!!![/quote]

Well said. Lets take it to 'em!!

JLW428 04-26-2010 07:16 PM

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That was a hell of a look from backstrom and semin. Halak is playing pretty good so far...

JLW428 04-26-2010 07:18 PM

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Varly got real lucky there.

JLW428 04-26-2010 07:22 PM

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We are getting a lot of really solid looks. This reminda me of game 1 where Halak is playing like a freak.

JLW428 04-26-2010 07:34 PM

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Defense sucks, varly sucks, theo sucks, and our offense has been off for like 2 weeks. We're finished.

Warren85Ellard 04-26-2010 08:55 PM

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[quote=JLW428;695277]Defense sucks, varly sucks, theo sucks, and our offense has been off for like 2 weeks. We're finished.[/quote]

How can you leave Mike Green of the sucks list? Seriously though, I wouldn't count us out yet. Halak is playing out of his mind...it's not that we suck.

ArtMonkDrillz 04-26-2010 09:09 PM

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[quote=Warren85Ellard;695288]How can you leave Mike Green of the sucks list? Seriously though, I wouldn't count us out yet. Halak is playing out of his mind...it's not that we suck.[/quote]We might not suck during the reg season but it's looking more and more like we have a team full of big time chokers. This is a fucking joke.

budw38 04-26-2010 09:29 PM

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Ggggooooaaaal !!!!

SmootSmack 04-26-2010 09:46 PM

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Extremely disappointing first round regardless of what happens in Game 7. It should never have gotten to 7 games

mooby 04-26-2010 09:59 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;695300]Extremely disappointing first round regardless of what happens in Game 7. It should never have gotten to 7 games[/quote]

My thoughts exactly.

Looks like that old adage is true, a hot goalie is much better to have than an offensively gifted team in the playoffs.

I'm disappointed on so many levels. Even if we win on Wednesday this series has been extremely disappointing. We're atrocious on the power play, defense is leaving much to be desired, and they've got the hot goalie when it matters. No offense to Varly but it's just been a combination of circumstances that leads me to believe unless we do a complete 180 we won't be in this much longer.

Dirtbag59 04-26-2010 10:00 PM

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Ironically this team might still be a year or two away. They need Varly and Neuvy to both develop as well get Carlson to become a true top line defender, not that he hasn't played like one this series but it's obvious that theres more to come. And finally what the hell is going on with Alzner? Hopefully he'll develop but I don't feel like he's going to make it at this point.

wolfeskins 04-26-2010 10:27 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;695300]Extremely disappointing first round regardless of what happens in Game 7. It should never have gotten to 7 games[/quote]


not really disapointing too me, more frustrating. the caps have just run into a very hot goalie. they had something like 54 shots on goal tonight, a playoff record, but they only got one into the back of the net.

if the caps can pull out a win in game seven then it's on to the next series. it doesn't have to be pretty, they just need to win.

if the caps can win the cup, no one will even remember this series.

GMScud 04-26-2010 11:41 PM

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[quote=wolfeskins;695332]not really disapointing too me, more frustrating. [B]the caps have just run into a very hot goalie. they had something like 54 shots on goal tonight, a playoff record, but they only got one into the back of the net.
[/B]
if the caps can pull out a win in game seven then it's on to the next series. it doesn't have to be pretty, they just need to win.

if the caps can win the cup, no one will even remember this series.[/quote]


That's the problem. We don't win games like this. In a game where 10-12 total goals are scored, I'll take the Caps 8 days a week. In those 3-2, 2-1 type of games, we're toast. We don't defend and goaltend well enough, we stink on the PP, and we commit stupid penalties. We simply don't do the things you need to do to win in the playoffs.

I've thrown my expectations out the window. I think Theo should probably start game 7, but shit, at this point who knows? We're so inconsistent. I'm so effing annoyed right now. We're facing a smoking hot netminder right now. We're in trouble.

tryfuhl 04-27-2010 12:15 AM

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[quote=GMScud;695345]That's the problem. We don't win games like this. In a game where 10-12 total goals are scored, I'll take the Caps 8 days a week. In those 3-2, 2-1 type of games, we're toast. We don't defend and goaltend well enough, we stink on the PP, and we commit stupid penalties. We simply don't do the things you need to do to win in the playoffs.

I've thrown my expectations out the window. I think Theo should probably start game 7, but shit, at this point who knows? We're so inconsistent. I'm so effing annoyed right now. We're facing a smoking hot netminder right now. We're in trouble.[/quote]
I pretty much came in to say the same exact thing.

mredskins 04-27-2010 08:03 AM

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Lets go Bruins!!!!!

JLW428 04-27-2010 09:27 AM

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[quote=Warren85Ellard;695288]How can you leave Mike Green of the sucks list? Seriously though, I wouldn't count us out yet. Halak is playing out of his mind...it's not that we suck.[/quote]

Its easy to have 53 saves when you know exactly what is coming at you. They haven't been setting up any screens, or stating any type of ground infront of the net. During the 5 on 3 we had 2 shots - TWO SHOTS!. Backstrom sat in the corner waiting for something to open up for about 30 seconds - nothing opened up...

In order to win game 7 (which I don't think we deserve to win) we need:

(1) Start Theo. Varly had 2 good games in Montreal, and that was it. Now he's back to the old Varly who can make some spectacular saves, but he lets in the easy ones. Theo is our guy for game 7 - no question about it.

(2) Dominate the crease and take screen shots. Obviously the fancy stuff isn't going to work. Montreal has our number on that stuff, so we need to try something different.

(3) Make Mike Green learn how to play his position, or move him up to forward. When he skates around the ice like some sort of "saftey" he kills us. I saw on multiple 5 on 5 situations where Ovechkin had to drop back and play D because Green was pinching in too much. That is unacceptable. Ovechkin should never have to drop back to play D during a 5 on 5.

The list can go on, but I need to get back to work...

mredskins 04-27-2010 10:10 AM

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LOL! Good stuff...

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D6JMg1e4DM&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Angry Montreal Radio Caller[/url]

over the mountain 04-27-2010 01:04 PM

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[quote=JLW428;695437]Its easy to have 53 saves when you know exactly what is coming at you. They haven't been setting up any screens, or stating any type of ground infront of the net. During the 5 on 3 we had 2 shots - TWO SHOTS!. Backstrom sat in the corner waiting for something to open up for about 30 seconds - nothing opened up...

In order to win game 7 (which I don't think we deserve to win) we need:

(1) Start Theo. Varly had 2 good games in Montreal, and that was it. Now he's back to the old Varly who can make some spectacular saves, but he lets in the easy ones. Theo is our guy for game 7 - no question about it.

(2) Dominate the crease and take screen shots. Obviously the fancy stuff isn't going to work. Montreal has our number on that stuff, so we need to try something different.

(3) Make Mike Green learn how to play his position, or move him up to forward. When he skates around the ice like some sort of "saftey" he kills us. I saw on multiple 5 on 5 situations where Ovechkin had to drop back and play D because Green was pinching in too much. That is unacceptable. Ovechkin should never have to drop back to play D during a 5 on 5.

The list can go on, but I need to get back to work...[/quote]

i agree with everything you said, particularly the part where havlat has had a clear view of most of the caps shots last night, wen he didnt he made great saves.

the part i dont agree with is the comment that ovie shouldnt have to back check on 5 on 5. in playoff hockey, all 5 skaters must back check and mark their man. if ovies guy is past the blue line, ovies butt better be past the blueline.

i would also start theo, i wouldnt have switched goalies half way thru game 1 either but thats bruce's call and hes been making pretty good ones so far.

id just like to welcome all the new (i wont call ya bandwagon) caps fans they have gained over the past few years, playoff hockey actually kinda sorta looks like how hockey is supposed to look. you know, pre-1998 rule changes to compliment the russian speedsters like pavel bure, teammu selanne and make hockey more exciting for americans.

you crash the net, you back check your ass off and dont take stupid penalties.

JLW428 04-27-2010 01:50 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;695581]i agree with everything you said, particularly the part where havlat has had a clear view of most of the caps shots last night, wen he didnt he made great saves.

the part i dont agree with is the comment that ovie shouldnt have to back check on 5 on 5. in playoff hockey, all 5 skaters must back check and mark their man.[B] if ovies guy is past the blue line, ovies butt better be past the blueline. [/B]
i would also start theo, i wouldnt have switched goalies half way thru game 1 either but thats bruce's call and hes been making pretty good ones so far.

[B]id just like to welcome all the new (i wont call ya bandwagon) caps fans they have gained over the past few years[/B], playoff hockey actually kinda sorta looks like how hockey is supposed to look. you know, pre-1998 rule changes to compliment the russian speedsters like pavel bure, teammu selanne and make hockey more exciting for americans.

you crash the net, you back check your ass off and dont take stupid penalties.[/quote]

Yeah, when Ovie's man is past the blueline, he should be back checking. But, when the puck is in the zone still and Green is pinching in - Ovie shouldn't have to fill that blue line position.

I know what you mean about the bandwagon fans. I've been playing hockey for close to 17 years. I played for UMD, and grew up in Frederick playing for the Phantoms turned Fury. It's tough to see all of these people who act like they've been caps fans and have followed the team forever. But, hey - at least they can't say our fanbase is weak anymore...haha.

Its bound to happen when a team gets good...you know?

MTK 04-27-2010 03:13 PM

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Monkeydad 04-27-2010 03:15 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;693482]Lot of shots coming, just nothing getting in.. let's go ahead and put this away[/quote]
53 saves...insane.

They better win Game 7...CAN'T LET CANADIANS WIN, especially the Canadiens.

skinsfan_nn 04-27-2010 04:37 PM

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Theo wasn't yanked game 1, he started and played the entire game 1 and we lost in OT. After a game two start and two shots on and two goals later he was yanked, just as he should have been. Varly came in to relieve in game 2 and we came back to win.

Game 7 who knows what direction Gabby goes.

We need to attack the net, stay in the crease and play grind it out hockey. Stop aiming the puck for small areas in the net and just pepper the shit outta halak and capitalize on the rebounds (keep there asses planted in his face/the crease) and get some dirty goals.

We will get this thing, we won't loss three straight!

GO CAPS!!!!!



[quote=over the mountain;695581]i agree with everything you said, particularly the part where havlat has had a clear view of most of the caps shots last night, wen he didnt he made great saves.

the part i dont agree with is the comment that ovie shouldnt have to back check on 5 on 5. in playoff hockey, all 5 skaters must back check and mark their man. if ovies guy is past the blue line, ovies butt better be past the blueline.

i would also start theo,[B] i wouldnt have switched goalies half way thru game 1 either but thats bruce's call and hes been making pretty good ones so far. [/B]

id just like to welcome all the new (i wont call ya bandwagon) caps fans they have gained over the past few years, playoff hockey actually kinda sorta looks like how hockey is supposed to look. you know, pre-1998 rule changes to compliment the russian speedsters like pavel bure, teammu selanne and make hockey more exciting for americans.

you crash the net, you back check your ass off and dont take stupid penalties.[/quote]

tryfuhl 04-27-2010 04:43 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;695681][URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/04/capitals_turn_off_message_boar.html?wprss=dcsportsbog"]D.C. Sports Bog - Capitals turn off message board[/URL][/quote]
whoa.. that's a bit much

SmootSmack 04-27-2010 05:01 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;695681][url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/04/capitals_turn_off_message_boar.html?wprss=dcsportsbog]D.C. Sports Bog - Capitals turn off message board[/url][/quote]

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tryfuhl 04-27-2010 05:11 PM

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Interesting, not sure how much I believe that alone, but I'm sure it could have something to do with it.

Hell, it's unheard of for an owner to even monitor those situations or comment on them, nice to see that he has a clear oversight on pretty much all aspects of the team.

GMScud 04-28-2010 02:13 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;695681][URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/04/capitals_turn_off_message_boar.html?wprss=dcsportsbog"]D.C. Sports Bog - Capitals turn off message board[/URL][/quote]

one of the texts I saw go across said "If the Caps lose game 7, i'm going to get a Duke tatoo and buy a Romo jersey." I had to LOL at that one.

Dirtbag59 04-28-2010 02:26 AM

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Personally I have as good of a feeling as you can have going into this situation. No way we let our season end here. If anything though watching anything to do with hockey over the last few days has been painful, except ironically the prospect of playing hockey.

over the mountain 04-28-2010 11:49 AM

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[quote=JLW428;695610]Yeah, when Ovie's man is past the blueline, he should be back checking. But, when the puck is in the zone still and Green is pinching in - Ovie shouldn't have to fill that blue line position.

I know what you mean about the bandwagon fans. I've been playing hockey for close to 17 years. I played for UMD, and grew up in Frederick playing for the Phantoms turned Fury. It's tough to see all of these people who act like they've been caps fans and have followed the team forever. But, hey - at least they can't say our fanbase is weak anymore...haha.

Its bound to happen when a team gets good...you know?[/quote]

damn thats sweet you got to play hockey for so long. i played when i was young then about 14 stopped playing. luckily i was able to play college lax.

back in teh day we had caps season tickets from the mid 80s to mid 90s. saw every freakin game they played, got to go back in the locker room. they would send us all-paid to see playoff games.

shoot, the caps gave me and my brother official official caps equipment. each set probably cost thousands upon thousands of dollars. now that i think about it, that might have been when they were still wearing the red white and blue but switched to that god awful blue and gold.

don beaupre goalie sticks, lou fransecitti sticks, langway, bondra, bobby gould, etc..

it was a different time back then, when hockey players were nothing more than guys who played hockey.

JLW you remember LOUUUUUUUUUUU! he was the man.

i do find it hard to root for the caps now thoo, dont know why, maybe subconciously i do hold something against this new breed of caps fans who dont know ridley, miller, pivonka, gustafson, murphy, langway, dino, sheehy, john trip over the blue line druce, sally johanson, bob mason, pete peeters, etc.... its weird, i should be happy that the caps are now the pens of the 90's with their high scoring offense. so many years of blue collar scrap it out hockey got replaced by 4 on 4s and rules enforced to open the ice.

saden1 04-28-2010 01:18 PM

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They may not be done yet but this team is nowhere near a championship caliber team. Uuuf. 2001 Mariners anyone?


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