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I'm sure he'll be there for training camp though, and actually wouldn't even surprise me if he shows up tomorrow

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We could trade him to the Saints but that might make the world champs even better. It would be great to have Jammal Brown, though.

We could also trade him to the Rams for OT Trautwein, S Atogwe, and maybe a draft pick. Then AH could play in his beloved 4-3 while never again sniffing the playoffs.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;706774]
1) Do you really think AH would be holding out if we were running a 4-3 and he was being used in the way he wanted to be used?

2) Do you really think the plan from the start was to come here, collect a ton of money up front and then force a trade the very next year?

That's pretty far-fetched and there are no official reports, legitimate sources, questionable sources, or even rumors alleging that this was the master plan all along. Its a conspiracy theory with absolutely no supporting evidence... at best (or worst?)[/quote]

1) Yes, i do believe that if there was no coaching change and no D scheme change, he would proffer another excuse for being unhappy. He and his agent had to know that zorn was not going to be the coach after last season. He and his agent had to know that blache was old and had to be brided out of retirement by gibbs, then begged to stay on when gibbs left.

Everyone knew zorn and blache were coaching their last year. AH knew it.

2) Yes. The skins made an unprecedented contract offer that opened the window for AH to collect an unprecendented 32 mil for 13 months of work.

What scenario would make AH the most money when he was a FA last year:

he turned down more money (in a traditional pay as you play contract) with the bucs b/c why? the skins and blache were so damn attractive to him? no. it was the freakin 32 mil dangled in front of him for 13 months of work.

I feel like my conspiracy theory is right. Has been all along. Is so far fetched that a player like AH (who loves money and not football, had big time debts) would try to take 32 mil that was stupidly put in front of him with no incentive for him to play after the 13 months.

The writing has been on the wall.

Ask yourself what scenario would get AH the most money last year.
Answer: take the skins 32 million, after the april 21 mil check clears, get a trade and sign a new, traditional pay as you play contract.

BHA - do you honestly think AH had any intention of playing for the skins in 2010 for 4-5 mil, in 2011 for 4-5 mil and 2012 for 5-6 mil? He is 28, he is in his prime years. No way AH ever had any intention of playing the next 3 years of his prime for 4-6 mil. No freakin way. to think otherwise is really giving too much credit to the integrity of AH.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;706780]Do you see a trade for Jammal Brown as our best potential solution to the situation with AH?[/quote]

Honestly have no idea. I'd actually want more than just Brown for Haynesworth. Brown and a pick maybe. Or Brown and Lance Moore (get some of our recent WRs out of here if that happens).

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[quote=CultBrennan59;706783]We should just trade him to New Orleans for Jammal brown and put Trent over on the right side.



...[B]and I bought this guys jersey over orakpo's[/B]....:cussing::doh:[/quote]
yeah no bs. my girl got me an authentic skins jersey of him for my bday last year in august. i was praying for an orakpo or fletcher. i had a tough time doing a fake smile and "ohh hey haynesworth.. great, thanks hun".

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I think when Maake was able to practice well ahead of schedule that made a huge difference. Because now Shanahan and Haslett can say ok, we've got our starter, Haynesworth you move down the depth chart until you're ready to come to camp and be a part of the team.

Finally, the offseason's got some meat to it!

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Sorry to repeat what others have already mentioned but ef Fat Al. Screw him and his freaking red boat. I hope the Skins try everything in their capacity to screw him over.

Deactivate him and keep him on the team. What an asswipe. I defended this clown and I will eat crow. I was wrong. He did have all the right in the world to not show up to anything else, but this whole game he is playing is ARHSG:LJG;lkjasdglkh;sdg.

Screw this guy. I hate him. I dont hate a lot. I HATE him.

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

[URL="http://dc.sbnation.com/2010/6/16/1520817/Albert-Haynesworth-trade-mini-camp-fine"]Report: Haynesworth Will Be At Mini Camp To Avoid Fine - SB Nation DC[/URL]

Nothing like a fat-ass malcontent on the field. Bury the SOB on the bench unless he returns his signing bonus. As a matter of fact, I put him on the PUP list or whatever so he's not in the locker room or near the team. If he returns the SB or a large portion of it, trade him to a $hit team for whatever you can get for him. He was a FA, we didn't give any picks/players up to get him.

I guess the "bitter girlfriends" had a point. This guy will be a MAJOR locker room cancer.

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

So is he showing up? If he shows up to save 10grand that will show how much money drives him. What an f-ing waste of space.

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

He plans on showing up for training camp, not mini-camp. That's his plan at least.

But his plan until recently was also to show up for mini-camp, so who the hell really knows what's going on.

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

Either we get decent trade value for him or he can sit the entire year for all I care. He's a selfish guy.

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

He is the epitomy of an ungrateful, selfish player who cannot see beyond himself. The guy is a waste of space and oxygen.

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

Start the negotiations......NOW. Get this POS outta here.

[url=http://dc.sbnation.com/2010/6/16/1520856/Albert-Haynesworth-trade-request-signing-bonus]Report: Haynesworth May Be Willing To Return Some Of His Signing Bonus - SB Nation DC[/url]

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If its not about the money and about the 3-4 (which it isnt, its about the money), AH should just see if the skins will accelerate his player opt out option which would allow him to become a FA.

of course, he would have to give back 18+ mil of that 21 mil bonus. But if its not about money, this should have happened already.

We do not get a comp pick if AH opts out of his contract or is released. Only if a player plays out his contract and becomes a FA do comp picks get awarded.

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

Fletcher blasted AH today

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I wouldn't trade him at all. If the fat ass wants to sit home, then let him. He is in breach of his contract, not the Redskins. For everyday he sits home and doesn't come in, then fine him. These idiots dont care about anything but money, and if the fines keep adding up to where it puts a dent in the wallet, then they will show up. And when he shows up, and is deamed to act in a way detrimental to the team then we can fine him and send him home again. These NFL teams, execs, and owners need to start standing up to these f-ers instead of giving in and trading them or cutting them. This guy has taken $30+ million dollars from Danny, i'll be damn if he would be wearing any uniform other than the Redskins. I use to side with some players when they got in to these situations, but not this one. The idiot hasn't even come in to see what he would be doing. He is ASSUMING he'll have a certain role. From reports I have read, Kemo will play nose and he'll play end, which if I am correct, has some more freedom to be aggressive. We have enough talented lineman on the roster to play with out him. I would send a message to him and his agent that he isnt' getting traded, he isn't getting cut and he'll be fined to the max everyday until he shows up. And if he shows up disrupting the team, then he'll be sent home with actions detrimental to the team, and fined and not paid at all for the remainder of his contract.

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[quote=Ruhskins;706633]I'm sorry but I am not OK on how Shanahan has handled this. Unless, he pulls a great trade (i.e.: AH for Mankins, or AH for Jamal Brown, etc., etc.) nothing is going to help us this season. Shit, at least a 3rd rounder could have gotten us a player in this year's draft.

If this is not resolved, at least the team can fine AH and try to get some of their money back. Otherwise, even if his fat ass sits on a bench, that does nothing positive for the team.[/quote]

Sometimes principles take precedence over logic.

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WOOOOOOOOW.

From RI (Fletcher):

With rain falling fast, the Redskins left the field after less than 30 minutes of practice on Wednesday. Following the abbreviated practice, several players addressed Albert Haynesworth's absence, and perhaps none was as outspoken as linebacker London Fletcher, who called Haynesworth "selfish" and said the highly-compensated defensive tackle "can't be depended upon."

Fletcher is the unquestioned leader of the unit, and when he speaks, it's usually worth listening to. He didn't hold anything back when discussing Haynesworth and the defensive tackle's decision to skip the mandatory minicamp.

"I agree with the assessment that Albert has made a very selfish decision. When you play a team sport, you have to look at it and think about everybody involved in the situation. This is not golf, tennis, things like that where it's an all-about-you sport. What he's decided to do is make a decision based all about him. It's no different than his attitude and his approach to last year's defense, about wanting everything to revolve around him and him making plays. And if it didn't benefit him, he wasn't really willing to do it."

Asked if the locker room could embrace Haynesworth should he return, Fletcher said:

"Obviously, he's under contract with the Washington Redskins. From a business standpoint, I don't see them giving him $32 million and trading him or giving him away. He has the option to give the money back if he really doesn't want to be here. He could always give the money back. But once he decided to take money from this organization, he's a Washington Redskin. I say, yeah, he can come back if he shows he's willing to buy into what we're doing, if he's going to be on- board with what we're trying to do. One man is not going to stop what we're trying to accomplish this year. One man is not going to stop what we're going to accomplish this year. We've got big goals set for us this year, high aspirations. Football is going to be played with him or without him. We're going to play some good football.

Obviously, we want him to be a part of it, but he has to stop being selfish."

Fletcher said he wasn't surprised by Haynesworth's decision, given his past actions and attitudes.

"He can say what he wants to say about him not wanting to be here, wanting to be traded, things like that. There's ways he can not be a Redskin. Give the money back; I'm sure they'd take it. We'll move on without him. I want teammates who I can depend on, who I can count on, who in the fourth quarter of a situation, I know is going to be there to make a play or to do his job that the defense calls -- whether it's responsibilities holding up a lineman or penetrating a gap... I need guys I can depend on. We need people we can depend on. At the end of the day, right now, he's shown that he can't be depended upon."

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

OK, if that's how this bozo want's to play let's play. If he can find somewhere to go and a 20 million dollar check he should be set free, otherwise his ass is either at Redskin Park or at home.

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I actually don't think it would be that difficult to just cut him, from a financial perspective, though I don't know for sure.

But I don't see them cutting him

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[quote=Gmanc711;706811]WOOOOOOOOW.

From RI (Fletcher):

With rain falling fast, the Redskins left the field after less than 30 minutes of practice on Wednesday. Following the abbreviated practice, several players addressed Albert Haynesworth's absence, and perhaps none was as outspoken as linebacker London Fletcher, who called Haynesworth "selfish" and said the highly-compensated defensive tackle "can't be depended upon."

Fletcher is the unquestioned leader of the unit, and when he speaks, it's usually worth listening to. He didn't hold anything back when discussing Haynesworth and the defensive tackle's decision to skip the mandatory minicamp.

"I agree with the assessment that Albert has made a very selfish decision. When you play a team sport, you have to look at it and think about everybody involved in the situation. This is not golf, tennis, things like that where it's an all-about-you sport. What he's decided to do is make a decision based all about him. It's no different than his attitude and his approach to last year's defense, about wanting everything to revolve around him and him making plays. And if it didn't benefit him, he wasn't really willing to do it."

Asked if the locker room could embrace Haynesworth should he return, Fletcher said:

"Obviously, he's under contract with the Washington Redskins. From a business standpoint, I don't see them giving him $32 million and trading him or giving him away. He has the option to give the money back if he really doesn't want to be here. He could always give the money back. But once he decided to take money from this organization, he's a Washington Redskin. I say, yeah, he can come back if he shows he's willing to buy into what we're doing, if he's going to be on- board with what we're trying to do. One man is not going to stop what we're trying to accomplish this year. One man is not going to stop what we're going to accomplish this year. We've got big goals set for us this year, high aspirations. Football is going to be played with him or without him. We're going to play some good football.

Obviously, we want him to be a part of it, but he has to stop being selfish."

Fletcher said he wasn't surprised by Haynesworth's decision, given his past actions and attitudes.

"He can say what he wants to say about him not wanting to be here, wanting to be traded, things like that. There's ways he can not be a Redskin. Give the money back; I'm sure they'd take it. We'll move on without him. I want teammates who I can depend on, who I can count on, who in the fourth quarter of a situation, I know is going to be there to make a play or to do his job that the defense calls -- whether it's responsibilities holding up a lineman or penetrating a gap... I need guys I can depend on. We need people we can depend on. At the end of the day, right now, he's shown that he can't be depended upon."[/quote]


Wow, Fat Al is more of a problem than I thought...obviously there has been a problem in the past and he's a problem child in the looker room. I would do whatever it takes to get the money back and trade Fat Al ASAP. I don't want his ass back.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;706803]Start the negotiations......NOW. Get this POS outta here.

[URL="http://dc.sbnation.com/2010/6/16/1520856/Albert-Haynesworth-trade-request-signing-bonus"]Report: Haynesworth May Be Willing To Return Some Of His Signing Bonus - SB Nation DC[/URL][/quote]

Finally, some positive news about Al.

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[quote=SmootSmack;706813]I actually don't think it would be that difficult to just cut him, from a financial perspective, though I don't know for sure.

But I don't see them cutting him[/quote]

At this time, with what has gone on today and now with the circus that is surely to ensue are we now officially shopping Phat Albert? Anyword from your sources SS?

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[quote=Gmanc711;706811]WOOOOOOOOW.

"I agree with the assessment that Albert has made a very selfish decision. When you play a team sport, you have to look at it and think about everybody involved in the situation. This is not golf, tennis, things like that where it's an all-about-you sport. What he's decided to do is make a decision based all about him. [B]It's no different than his attitude and his approach to last year's defense, about wanting everything to revolve around him and him making plays. And if it didn't benefit him, he wasn't really willing to do it[/B]."

...

"I want teammates who I can depend on, who I can count on, who in the fourth quarter of a situation, I know is going to be there to make a play or to do his job that the defense calls -- whether it's responsibilities holding up a lineman or penetrating a gap... I need guys I can depend on. We need people we can depend on. At the end of the day, right now, he's shown that he can't be depended upon."[/quote]

In the past, I have been an AH defender. Although I thought the money obscene, I figured - "Hey its Snyder's money and it's isn't draft picks." Also, I thought he improved the overall defense last year as it appeared that Carter benefitted from his presence.

No more. Fletcher's quote makes it clear what the rest of the defense thought of him. Clearly, this guy is not about anything other than himself. On the defensive side of the ball, for success, it really takes all 11 to be on the same page.

I'm sure we have all met the type, the guy who is so convinced of his talent that he simply can't operate as part of team b/c they are absolutely unwilling to do work they consider "below them."

Essentially, AH is simply a less flamboyant, somewhat less stupid and somewhat more articulate LaVar.

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[quote=Chico23231;706819]At this time, with what has gone on today and now with the circus that is surely to ensue are we now officially shopping Phat Albert? Anyword from your sources SS?[/quote]

As of this morning, I still haven't heard that we are trying to move him. But I've been kind of busy with other stuff so I really haven't had a chance to focus on this much

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[quote=Art Hunk;706618]Does anyone know the most amount of money that the team can fine him? It would probably not be enough.

I hope they never trade him and let him rot and gain weight on his couch.[/quote]

I thought I read somewhere that the fines were about $10,000 a day the most allowed by the league.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/16/albert-haynesworth-officially-is-a-no-show/]Albert Haynesworth officially is a no-show | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

[quote]Meanwhile, questions linger regarding the potential financial consequences. Some (including Haynesworth's camp) think that the Redskins may only fine him the CBA-authorized amount that falls in the range of $10,000. Others think that a portion of the 2010 allocation from his $5 million initial signing bonus can be pursued. Still others think that the conversion of his $21 million April 1 roster bonus into a bonus that operates like a signing bonus, with allocations spread out over multiple years, makes the payment subject to partial forfeiture.
[/quote]

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[quote=Buster;706818]Finally, some positive news about Al.[/quote]

"F--k no!" May be willing to return some of his signing bonus, he either buys out his contract (how ever much that may be) or he rides the bench till he decides to play ball and learn the defensive scheme. The whole time getting fined for not showing up.

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FAT AL your a 100% POS!

Shanny speaks:

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Shanahan__Very_Disappointed__With_Haynesworth_s_Absence_124841.jsp]Shanahan 'Very Disappointed' With Haynesworth's Absence[/url]

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[quote=Buster;706818]Finally, some positive news about Al.[/quote]

Would the union permit the return of the signing bonus portion?

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

I hope no cut without a cash settlement, as in buy your way out FAT ASS!

[url=http://twitter.com/davidelfin]David Elfin (davidelfin) on Twitter[/url]

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First of all I feel vindicated for being an "Albert Hater"

Fat Albert can rot at home and watch the games on TV. The Skins don't need his BS. If the most unselfish player on the team says he is selfish, that is all I need to hear.

Unless he returns 100% of his salary for this year I say they fine him for every missed practice, and force him to decide if he wants to sit out the whole season.

Eventually he will show up and be a problem, and then they can give him the Keyshawn treatment for the last half of the year. If there is a lock out then Fatty will have successfully ruined his career, and be starting at a lock out.

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Haynesworth must be the only person in the world associated with the Redskins (player, coach, employee, fan) who's actually upset the regime changed from Cerrato/Zorn to Allen/Shanahan. It's like being upset that you came to a party with Rosie O'Donnell and left with Brooklyn Decker

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[quote=SmootSmack;706825]As of this morning, I still haven't heard that we are trying to move him. But I've been kind of busy with other stuff so I really haven't had a chance to focus on this much[/quote]

ESPN radio said we had been but the team didn't like the offers. I think more to the point was the team looked into trading him around the draft time period and we were only offered like a 4th round pick and the team was not going to accept such a low offer.

Now with him being anal and the team being in a situation other teams will most likely offer less knowing we might be in a bind with AH. Which is why I'd keep him and fine him each day he doesn't show in attempts to try and recoup some of the money. Have him ride the bench for 2 or 3 games (I think Arrington said that was his worst time sitting there hearing the fans yelling at him in the back ground and not playing), then trade him for anything that the Rams will give for him or some other team that was a bad team last yr. In no uncertain terms would I trade him to a good team or a play off contender. Either he play for the Skins who might turn out to be better then expected or play for a rotten team.

Rams
Jaguars
Browns
Detroit
Buffalo (this might be good. cold, miserable, but paid). lol.

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[quote=Gmanc711;706811]WOOOOOOOOW.

From RI (Fletcher):

With rain falling fast, the Redskins left the field after less than 30 minutes of practice on Wednesday. Following the abbreviated practice, several players addressed Albert Haynesworth's absence, and perhaps none was as outspoken as linebacker London Fletcher, who called Haynesworth "selfish" and said the highly-compensated defensive tackle "can't be depended upon."

Fletcher is the unquestioned leader of the unit, and when he speaks, it's usually worth listening to. He didn't hold anything back when discussing Haynesworth and the defensive tackle's decision to skip the mandatory minicamp.

"I agree with the assessment that Albert has made a very selfish decision. When you play a team sport, you have to look at it and think about everybody involved in the situation. This is not golf, tennis, things like that where it's an all-about-you sport. What he's decided to do is make a decision based all about him. It's no different than his attitude and his approach to last year's defense, about wanting everything to revolve around him and him making plays. And if it didn't benefit him, he wasn't really willing to do it."

Asked if the locker room could embrace Haynesworth should he return, Fletcher said:

"Obviously, he's under contract with the Washington Redskins. From a business standpoint, I don't see them giving him $32 million and trading him or giving him away. He has the option to give the money back if he really doesn't want to be here. He could always give the money back. But once he decided to take money from this organization, he's a Washington Redskin. I say, yeah, he can come back if he shows he's willing to buy into what we're doing, if he's going to be on- board with what we're trying to do. One man is not going to stop what we're trying to accomplish this year. One man is not going to stop what we're going to accomplish this year. We've got big goals set for us this year, high aspirations. Football is going to be played with him or without him. We're going to play some good football.

Obviously, we want him to be a part of it, but he has to stop being selfish."

Fletcher said he wasn't surprised by Haynesworth's decision, given his past actions and attitudes.

"He can say what he wants to say about him not wanting to be here, wanting to be traded, things like that. There's ways he can not be a Redskin. Give the money back; I'm sure they'd take it. We'll move on without him. I want teammates who I can depend on, who I can count on, who in the fourth quarter of a situation, I know is going to be there to make a play or to do his job that the defense calls -- whether it's responsibilities holding up a lineman or penetrating a gap... I need guys I can depend on. We need people we can depend on. At the end of the day, right now, he's shown that he can't be depended upon."[/quote]

A while back I said this guy isn't a good teammate and now we see why. When a stand up quality guy like Fletch calls you out then you know it's bad. It's all about him and we now see that he is just not someone that we can count on. I'd honestly let his fat sloppy bacon grease ass rot on the bench.

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[quote=drew54;706831]First of all I feel vindicated for being an "Albert Hater"

Fat Albert can rot at home and watch the games on TV. The Skins don't need his BS. If the most unselfish player on the team says he is selfish, that is all I need to hear.

Unless he returns 100% of his salary for this year I say they fine him for every missed practice, and force him to decide if he wants to sit out the whole season.

Eventually he will show up and be a problem, and then they can give him the Keyshawn treatment for the last half of the year. If there is a lock out then Fatty will have successfully ruined his career, and be starting at a lock out.[/quote]

:blah: I for one thought he would come in shape and ready to take on whatever roll he needed to play.

You can say "I told you so" any time now.

All I can say is for the 30+ mill he took we fans should be able to get something out of it.... like watching him sitting misserably on the bench for a few games and allowing the fans to ridicule him from the stands. I'd also freeze his contract. When he decids to play a yr from now he can show up at camp until he fulfills his contract or pays it back.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;706828]FAT AL your a 100% POS!

Shanny speaks:

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Shanahan__Very_Disappointed__With_Haynesworth_s_Absence_124841.jsp]Shanahan 'Very Disappointed' With Haynesworth's Absence[/url][/quote]

Here is the article:
[quote]By Gary Fitzgerald
Redskins.com
Posted: June 16, 2010
Fitzgerald

Head coach Mike Shanahan said on Wednesday he was disappointed that defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth has opted not to attend this week's mandatory mini-camp.

Shanahan addressed Haynesworth's absence in a post-practice media session on Wednesday.

"When I first talked with Albert back in February, and got a good feel on how he felt, and sat down and talked with his agent, we let Albert know at that time that we would give him until April 1 to go to any team he wanted in the National Football League," Shanahan said. "So if he wasn't pleased about playing nose tackle or any other position we had planned for him, that we would let him take a look at any team he wanted to go to.

"[B]But on April 1, when we owed him a check for $21 million dollars, we said if you take that check, we do expect you to be the best defensive end, the best nose tackle--if we play you at free safety, we expect you to be the best free safety, even though he'd have to lose a little weight. Whatever position we play him at, that he would have to do the best job he possibly could and make the commitment to be the best football player.[/B]

"Obviously he took the check. So I was surprised he wasn't here [at mini-camp], because I thought he did make that commitment once he took that check, that he wanted to be a Washington Redskin and he wanted to do the best thing for the Washington Redskins to help our defense and help our team win. Obviously it didn't go in that direction. So we're quite disappointed."[/quote]
Amazing detail of what has transpired, and I think we all can agree that MS/BA handled it right (if his words are to be believed). It also shows how we would be listening, without being actively shopping, much like they told JC if you find a place great, we will send you there, but we are in control. I loved this whole statement by Shanahan!!

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;706751]That saying would apply if Reid and JLC were just making stuff up and one of their fabricated stories just happened to be true. However, it doesnt jive with reality. Reality is that JLC had actual SOURCES telling him Haynesworth was unhappy and wanted to be traded. Now, the majority here chose to stick their head in the sand and foolishly pretend that these were just rumors and the sources were crap. They foolishly chose to believe what Haynesworth, whose teammates refer to him as an "actor," said instead - even though anyone with any sense at all recognized that Haynesworth would be saying the exact same things whether or not he wanted to be traded or not. Hopefully, in the future, people will learn from this and not discredit JLC simply because they don't like what he has to say.[/quote]Haynesworth's unhappiness was never in dispute.

The 'facts' around the case, i.e. the Redskins actively trying to trade him during the draft was what had been completely fabricated.

He also wasn't an "active" malcontent, and probably still isn't. Haynesworth wasn't taking his case to the media...the media was taking their case to Haynesworth. We shouldn't lose sight of how this all unfolded.

Now: his agent has requested a trade -- one that he's not going to get -- in order to speed of the process of getting Haynesworth out of here. I don't like it at all, but it's hardly a code red situation. It's just a selfish, dick move considering the financial circumstances. It's a slap in Snyder's face more than it's intended target, which is Shanahan.

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London Fletcher is the Man. Shanny is the Man. I am so happy to see real acountability @ Redskins Park :)

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[quote=SBXVII;706833]ESPN radio said we had been but the team didn't like the offers. I think more to the point was the team looked into trading him around the draft time period and we were only offered like a 4th round pick and the team was not going to accept such a low offer.

Now with him being anal and the team being in a situation other teams will most likely offer less knowing we might be in a bind with AH. Which is why I'd keep him and fine him each day he doesn't show in attempts to try and recoup some of the money. Have him ride the bench for 2 or 3 games (I think Arrington said that was his worst time sitting there hearing the fans yelling at him in the back ground and not playing), then trade him for anything that the Rams will give for him or some other team that was a bad team last yr. In no uncertain terms would I trade him to a good team or a play off contender. Either he play for the Skins who might turn out to be better then expected or play for a rotten team.

Rams
Jaguars
Browns
Detroit
Buffalo (this might be good. cold, miserable, but paid). lol.[/quote]

Trades to the Vikings or Titans came close to happening but it was more about listening to offers than us reaching out to them.

The only time we truly actively tried to trade him was in discussions for McNabb. And for a split second when talking with the Saints

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I really wish no team would pick him up, but unfortunately some team always is willing to take on a case-head like this. That's why these pricks keep re-appearing over and over again.