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[quote=mlmpetert;863671][URL="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/grandfather-left-bloody-by-police-after-walmart-arrest-before-black-friday/"]Was the Grandfather Left Bloody by Police at Arizona Walmart Really Resisting Arrest? | Jerald Allen Newman | Video | TheBlaze.com[/URL]



I like the show Cops, but one thing that really makes me upset is when cops knock the crap out of a suspect for no reason. It usually happens when they do drug set ups. The undercover cop will buy or sell drugs and then as the suspect is walking away a bunch of cops will swarm a suspect. The suspect is caught by surprise and usually just stands there and then a cop will just tackle the shit out of him from behind.

Look i get someone is running away, reaching for something, looking like they might act aggressively or resisting but there is no reason to just tackle the shit out of someone that just committed a minor and non violent crime. Its ridiculous.

Prime example from a show i remember watching:

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8keT9jNMg24"]Cops unnecessary tackle - YouTube[/URL][/quote]

I guess no one that sells drugs ever carries a gun and they would never use them. Cops have families and want to make it home alive. The minute they let their guard down is when something bad happens.

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[quote=firstdown;863684]I guess no one that sells drugs ever carries a gun and they would never use them. Cops have families and want to make it home alive. The minute they let their guard down is when something bad happens.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I just think that almost all of the tackles and take downs i see on Cops are completely unnecessary. When someone is completely unaware that they are under arrest or gives up once they are being placed under arrest i dont think its necessary to tackle and slam them to the ground. Everyone thats not engaging in violent behavior should be given the option to surrender themselves without being assulted first. [/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]

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[url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/surveillance-video-captures-cop-tasering-14-year-old-female-student/]Surveillance Video Shows Cop Tasering Keshana Wilson in Allentown | Video | TheBlaze.com[/url]

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[quote=mlmpetert;863703][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I just think that almost all of the tackles and take downs i see on Cops are completely unnecessary. When someone is completely unaware that they are under arrest or gives up once they are being placed under arrest i dont think its necessary to tackle and slam them to the ground. Everyone thats not engaging in violent behavior should be given the option to surrender themselves without being assulted first. [/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

I'll agree with you there are times I've seen some tackles and wondered... uh, why did they go through all that? but keep in mind we the people might not be getting all the information from the show that the police have. My example might be that the police were informed that the suspect has had several previous arrests, or they might have been known to fight the police from a previous arrest. Under those situations they will not give the suspect an opportunity to do anything. It's all about police safety.

Another issue is most drug users or dealers don't want to get caught and will most likely run with the attempt to throw the drug away (losing evidence) or they might try to swallow the drug to get rid of evidence. The whole point of doing what your saying is obsurd is to catch the bad guy off guard and get him to the ground with out having to chase him, fight him, or tazer him.

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[quote=SBXVII;868017]I'll agree with you there are times I've seen some tackles and wondered... uh, why did they go through all that? but keep in mind we the people might not be getting all the information from the show that the police have. My example might be that the police were informed that the suspect has had several previous arrests, or they might have been known to fight the police from a previous arrest. Under those situations they will not give the suspect an opportunity to do anything. [B]It's all about police safety. [/B]

Another issue is most drug users or dealers don't want to get caught and will most likely run with the attempt to throw the drug away (losing evidence) or they might try to swallow the drug to get rid of evidence. The whole point of doing what your saying is obsurd is to catch the bad guy off guard and get him to the ground with out having to chase him, fight him, or tazer him.[/quote]

In my opinion i think its all about public safety.


If someone freely chooses to join the infantry, become a firefighter, or to be crabber on deadliest catch they do so with the knowledge that their job is inherently dangerous. If someone doesnt want to be subjected to great risk then dont become a police officer, its literally that simple. Never do i think a person should be subject to battery without first given a chance to voluntary surrender. Im a Blackstone guy in that id rather see 10 go free than one wrongly punished so those views bleed into this one for me.

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[quote=mlmpetert;868022]In my opinion i think its all about public safety.


If someone freely chooses to join the infantry, become a firefighter, or to be crabber on deadliest catch they do so with the knowledge that their job is inherently dangerous. If someone doesnt want to be subjected to great risk then dont become a police officer, its literally that simple. Never do i think a person should be subject to battery without first given a chance to voluntary surrender. Im a Blackstone guy in that id rather see 10 go free than one wrongly punished so those views bleed into this one for me.[/quote]

so a dead cop is better than an uneccessary tackle?

I mean, I guess it's all context about whether a specific action is really warranted, but sometimes things move fast and some people react badly or misread the situation. I mean, I'm all against police brutality, but what if they see a gun?

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[quote=That Guy;868040]so a dead cop is better than an uneccessary tackle?

I mean, I guess it's all context about whether a specific action is really warranted, but sometimes things move fast and some people react badly or misread the situation. I mean, I'm all against police brutality, but what if they see a gun?[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I completely agree its all about the specific situation. I mis-typed when i said:[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]"Never do i think a person should be subject to battery without first given a chance to voluntary surrender."[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I meant, Never do i think a person should be subject to battery by a public servant without fist given the chance to voluntary surrender unless they pose an imminent serious threat to themselves, public safety or the police officer. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]There are many situations where i think tackling a guy to a ground is absolute correct course of action. A guy in the Cops video above walking away after buying some weed is not one of them. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[url=http://www.care2.com/causes/florida-man-tortured-and-pepper-sprayed-to-death-by-police.html]Florida Man Tortured and Pepper-Sprayed to Death by Police | Care2 Causes[/url]

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[quote=mlmpetert;870494][url=http://www.care2.com/causes/florida-man-tortured-and-pepper-sprayed-to-death-by-police.html]Florida Man Tortured and Pepper-Sprayed to Death by Police | Care2 Causes[/url][/quote]

it doesnt get more sick than that. Its generally shameful how we treat the mentally ill in this country, this takes it to a whole other level. Being Cops you can assure they will get off

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[url=http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/video-game-sting-takes-down-st-louis-police-210149230.html]Video game sting takes down East St. Louis police chief | Games Blog - Yahoo! Games[/url]

[quote]Ironically, this isn't the former chief's first brush with the other side of the law. It turns out Baxton had two felony convictions from 1982 before he was appointed: one for theft and another for burglary. Those convictions were expunged in 1989.[/quote]

Two felony convictions and this guy makes it to police chief?...lol

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[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/online-video-captures-moment-cops-shoot-kill-man-carl-jr-california-article-1.1010835]Online video captures moment cops shoot, kill man outside Carl's Jr. in California - NY Daily News[/url]


imo this shooting was justified, the amount of shots seem excessive but i do think he had to be shot. they attempt to taser the guy, in the face none the less, at about the 38 second mark and shot him at about the 48 second mark. right before he gets shot he lunges toward one of the cops with the hammer, the other cop didn't waste a second and shot him instantly. again i think this guy had to be shot, they tried tasing him and he walked it off, if they would have let the dog go he would have beaten the dog and probably ended its career. people like this really have no place in society what so ever, but at the end of the day some one died and that is unfortunate.

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[url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/shut-up-you-mother-fer-man-suing-pa-state-police-after-gruesome-beating-arrest-watch-the-video-here/]Robert Leone Beaten By Pennsylvania State Police in Dash Cam Video Posted on YouTube | Video | TheBlaze.com[/url]

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[quote=mlmpetert;923591][URL="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/shut-up-you-mother-fer-man-suing-pa-state-police-after-gruesome-beating-arrest-watch-the-video-here/"]Robert Leone Beaten By Pennsylvania State Police in Dash Cam Video Posted on YouTube | Video | TheBlaze.com[/URL][/quote]

The cops beat down white people every now and then so people don't think they are racist. Looks like they knock one eye shut and the other one crooked.

[URL="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/shut-up-you-mother-fer-man-suing-pa-state-police-after-gruesome-beating-arrest-watch-the-video-here/police-5-2/"][IMG]http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/police-5.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

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[quote=firstdown;923593]The cops beat down white people every now and then so people don't think they are racist. [/quote]

Perhaps it was this black guy that they beat that forced them to beat that white guy to take the heat of the first beating? Sneaky ass racist cops.

[url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/i-thought-i-was-going-to-die-minn-man-beaten-arrested-for-carrying-legal-gives-more-details-to-the-blaze/]Zachary King, Man Beaten and Arrested For Carrying Legal Gun, Says He Wasn’t Drinking in Blaze Interview | TheBlaze.com[/url]

[IMG]http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Screen-Shot-2012-06-26-at-1.40.15-PM-620x345.png[/IMG]

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[quote=mlmpetert;923591][url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/shut-up-you-mother-fer-man-suing-pa-state-police-after-gruesome-beating-arrest-watch-the-video-here/]Robert Leone Beaten By Pennsylvania State Police in Dash Cam Video Posted on YouTube | Video | TheBlaze.com[/url][/quote]

that video makes my stomach curl. Cant believe cop still has a job.

FD, thats effed up logic

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This thread makes me ill.

Two things:

Whenever I've NEEDED a cop, they are nowhere to be found.
and

F THE POLICE F THE POLICE F 'EM

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[quote=Chico23231;923702]that video makes my stomach curl. Cant believe cop still has a job.

FD, thats effed up logic[/quote]

You really couldn't tell I was joking.

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This reminds me of a terrible joke.

How many cops does it take to screw in a light bulb?

None, they just beat the room for being black.

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I'm not racist BTW.

Just wanted to toss that out there, lol.

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/lapd-commander-removed-probe-rough-arrest-054751139.html]LAPD commander removed in probe of rough arrest - Yahoo! News[/url]

repulsive

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/houston-officer-kills-double-amputee-wheelchair-222540280.html]Houston officer kills double amputee in wheelchair - Yahoo! News[/url]

Either the cop is the biggest pussy of all time or the biggest piece of shit of all time. take your pick

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[quote=Chico23231;943146][url=http://news.yahoo.com/houston-officer-kills-double-amputee-wheelchair-222540280.html]Houston officer kills double amputee in wheelchair - Yahoo! News[/url]

Either the cop is the biggest pussy of all time or the biggest piece of shit of all time. take your pick[/quote]



I'll go with C. Both for the correct answer. There is NO ****ing way this idiot can claim he "thought" that pen was a gun....lol

He should be fired, and never allowed to work in law enforcement again. We all know the department is going to clear him of all wrong doing and he'll continue to work the force.

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[url=http://gma.yahoo.com/former-cop-accused-faking-duis-021947523--abc-news-topstories.html]Fired State Trooper Accused of Faking DUI Arrests - Yahoo![/url]

This is why I hate cops

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And don't get me started on this [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDzcYerwE4s"]DUI stop[/URL].

Awful coppering

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[quote=mlmpetert;863671][URL="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/grandfather-left-bloody-by-police-after-walmart-arrest-before-black-friday/"] | TheBlaze.com[/URL]
[/quote]


Seems an awful lot of these articals are in the Blaze.There are good and bad in every aspect of life.Good and Bad police,politicians,teachers
Just sayin,more good than bad.

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[url=http://wtvr.com/2013/06/11/officer-joshua-hill-arrested/]Police officer arrested after selling jewelry | WTVR.com[/url]

"to steal and protect"

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[quote=Chico23231;1011553][URL="http://wtvr.com/2013/06/11/officer-joshua-hill-arrested/"]Police officer arrested after selling jewelry | WTVR.com[/URL]

"to steal and protect"[/quote]

When I was a kid we would go with my friends dad who was a Portsmouth Cop to the impound lot. We would bust out the locks to get into the cars and take out all the contents. He would then take the contents home to inventory (wink wink) before returning it to the station. At the time it seemed normal but when I got older I figured out he was probably keeping what he wanted.

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[url=http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/11/good_cop_story.php]Good Cop Story: NYPD Officer Larry DePrimo Drops $75 On Boots For Barefoot Homeless Man - New York - News - Runnin' Scared[/url]

Believe it or not, not all cops are racist, donut-eating thugs who want nothing more than to hassle innocent citizens. In fact, the vast majority are good people who put themselves in harm's way to keep the rest of us safe.

The good ones, however, tend to get the least amount of ink. But NYPD Officer Larry DePrimo deserves a nod.

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[quote=Chico23231;943146][url=http://news.yahoo.com/houston-officer-kills-double-amputee-wheelchair-222540280.html]Houston officer kills double amputee in wheelchair - Yahoo! News[/url]

Either the cop is the biggest pussy of all time or the biggest piece of shit of all time. take your pick[/quote]

Of course the cop has been cleared
[url=http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/No-charges-against-HPD-officer-who-killed-double-4598518.php]No charges against HPD officer who killed double amputee in a wheelchair - Houston Chronicle[/url]

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[quote=htownskinfan;1012048]Of course the cop has been cleared
[URL="http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/No-charges-against-HPD-officer-who-killed-double-4598518.php"]No charges against HPD officer who killed double amputee in a wheelchair - Houston Chronicle[/URL][/quote]

From the article:

and the July 2011 arrest of a 16-year-old robbery suspect who, although handcuffed, was punched in the face by an HPD officer.

That is not excessive force for a theif. I'd add in a few kicks and a few body slams. I'm tired of working hard for what I own to have a theif steel my stuff. I've been hit too many times and they all need a few swift punches to the face, kicks to th nuts, and a good body slam.

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[URL="http://www.officer.com/news/10889066/off-duty-nc-police-officers-good-deed-goes-viral"]Off-Duty Winston-Salem, N.C. Police Officer Charles Ziegler's Good Deed Goes Viral[/URL]

A Winston-Salem's off-duty police officer's good deed went viral last week.
Officer Charles Ziegler was working security for a local church on Feb. 26 when he spotted a mother pushing her child's stroller in the rain, according to [URL="http://www.nbcnews.com/id/51041790/site/todayshow/ns/today-good_news/t/police-officer-becomes-viral-hero-after-helping-mom-rain/#.UTYzxjdf-So"][COLOR=#0066cc]TODAY.com[/COLOR][/URL].
He offered the woman a lift, and by that afternoon he was a bona fide Internet celebrity.
A photo of him helping the woman into his patrol car was posted on Twitter by the city's marketing and communications director and from there it took off.
WXII-TV picked up the story and after that, the story was passed around online.
Ziegler -- who was slammed with phone calls, texts and Facebook messages -- said that he still can't believe how far the story spread.
"My phone just blew up," he told TODAY.com. "Last night, I got a text message from someone I go to church with and she said I made the news in England."
He said the act was a regular occurrence as he's often at the church as parents are dropping their kids off at the daycare.
"It's me giving a lady and her child a ride. I don’t think it’s that big of a deal," he said. "Cops across the state and across the nation, they do stuff like this all the time."

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[B]Police officer does good deed before he dies moments later.[/B]

[url=http://www.wimp.com/gooddeed/]Police officer does good deed before he dies moments later. [VIDEO][/url]

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[quote=htownskinfan;1012048]Of course the cop has been cleared
[url=http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/No-charges-against-HPD-officer-who-killed-double-4598518.php]No charges against HPD officer who killed double amputee in a wheelchair - Houston Chronicle[/url][/quote]


You knew that was going to happen.






[url=http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/off-duty-cop-charged-murder-road-rage-shooting-19365060]Off-Duty Cop Charged With Murder in Road Rage Shooting | Video - ABC News[/url]

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[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/dustin-fetz-zoe-brugger-shake-bra_n_3478690.html]Dustin Fetz, Police Officer, Makes Zoe Brugger Shake Her Bra In Search For 'Drugs'[/url]


We are scrapping the bottom of the barrel hiring cops these days.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1013118]


We are scrapping the bottom of the barrel hiring cops these days.[/quote]

Pretty easy for you to sit and judge from your man cave behind a computer keyboard.

The good ones out weigh the bad ones by a mile as in any segment of life.
[URL="http://joliet.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/no-good-turn-police-blotter"]Joliet Cop Doing Good Deed Attacked: Police Blotter - Police & Fire - Joliet, IL Patch[/URL]

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[quote=NC_Skins;1013118]


We are scrapping the bottom of the barrel hiring cops these days.[/quote]


Pretty sure you missed this one but then again it was a Cop doing something nice , why would you care?


[url=http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/22211517/2013/05/09/curfew-check-turns-into-good-deed]Cop's curfew check becomes good deed for Phoenix teen[/url]

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Some of you anti Police need to spend a day in their shoes......


[URL]http://silverunderground.com/2012/12/when-police-officers-do-good-deeds/[/URL]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-G8k44m3VE&feature=player_embedded#at=760]TSA OPT OUT & FILM: DEPUTY SHERIFF PROTECTS 1ST AMENDMENT AT ALBANY AIRPORT - YouTube[/url]

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[url=http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130702/13385923696/texas-trooper-shoves-74-year-old-then-arrests-her-felony-assault-when-she-hits-him-with-her-purse.shtml]Texas Trooper Shoves 74-Year-Old Then Arrests Her For Felony Assault When She Hits Him With Her Purse | Techdirt[/url]


Pieces of shit if you ask me.

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[quote=Giantone;1013122]Pretty easy for you to sit and judge from your man cave behind a computer keyboard.[/quote]


First off, I judge based of the actions of a person. I realize that cops have a hard and thankless job. I also realize that many cops abuse their authority and often break the laws they are sworn to uphold. Lie on stand? Falsify evidence? Excessive force? I could go on and on down the list of the horrendous crimes by cops and their leaders that cover it up. This is the one place there should be absolutely no tolerance on this issues. The fact is, they allow it and continue to let these people on the force serve.

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[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/01/police-shoot-dog_n_3530990.html]Police Shoot Dog, Gunshots Caught On Graphic Video (NSFW, UPDATES)[/url]