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tootergray34 09-09-2010 06:39 PM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
P. Thomas for sure

def. sit McFadden

total tossup with McCoy and Portis.
I think Portis' ankle should be good to go , but McCoy could be great catching screens out of the backfield. I'd go with McCoy this week cause the Eagles really have no other option.

with reggie bush being nothing more than a change of pace back I see P THomas getting a solid 15 points tonight.

I think mccoy and portis will both be in the 10 to 15 range as well.

and mcfadden is just ... well a raider. I love his talent, but he hasn't done much in 2 years...but with micheal bush out he could be big, but I wouldn't start him vs. tenn.

Monkeydad 09-10-2010 12:12 PM

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^

Eagles will be playing from behind against GB for sure. Philly already has a pass-heavy scheme, but he could end up with maybe a dozen carries...McCoy better catch a lot of passes to be fantasy-relevant.

MonkFan4Life 09-16-2010 04:14 PM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
Okay so I just got a trade Proposal from a guy in my league.

Hakeem Nicks, Steve Breaston, Clinton Portis, Chris Cooley to me for

Greg Jennings, Tony Gonzalez, and Cadillac Williams.

Now my starting offense will look like this if I make the deal

QB-Aaron Rodgers, Carson Palmer
RB-Clinton Portis, Darren McFadden, Jerome Harrison, Cedric Benson
WR-Mohammed Massaquoi, Steve Breaston, Eddie Royal, Danny Amendola, Hakeem Nicks, Mike Williams
TE-Chris Cooley

His will be

QB-Tom Brady, Donovan McNabb
RB-Cadillac Williams, Joseph Addai, Brandon Jacobs, Laurence Maroney
WR-Randy Moss, Steve Smith (Car), Johnny Knox, Greg Jennings, Austin Collie
Te- Tony Gonzalez

My question is, is this a good trade for me ? Should I make this trade even though it boosts his WR core ?

Chico23231 09-16-2010 04:40 PM

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^Jesus, you started with horrible WRs. Its a pretty even deal, but your taking a much greater risk with exchanging Jennings for Nicks and Breaston. Both those guys kinda had "breakouts" for their first game this season. Your giving up a #1 for 2 # 2 guys. I would wait this weekend to see if both have decent games just to see consistency. You know for sure Caddy, Gonzalas, and Jennings are all number 1s who have more opportunities for bigger overall numbers. Cooley has Davis and Portis has LJ who potentionally could take away numbers.

Slingin Sammy 33 09-16-2010 04:45 PM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
[quote=MonkFan4Life;734378]Okay so I just got a trade Proposal from a guy in my league.

Hakeem Nicks, Steve Breaston, Clinton Portis, Chris Cooley to me for

Greg Jennings, Tony Gonzalez, and Cadillac Williams.

Now my starting offense will look like this if I make the deal

QB-Aaron Rodgers, Carson Palmer
RB-Clinton Portis, Darren McFadden, Jerome Harrison, Cedric Benson
WR-Mohammed Massaquoi, Steve Breaston, Eddie Royal, Danny Amendola, Hakeem Nicks, Mike Williams
TE-Chris Cooley

His will be

QB-Tom Brady, Donovan McNabb
RB-Cadillac Williams, Joseph Addai, Brandon Jacobs, Laurence Maroney
WR-Randy Moss, Steve Smith (Car), Johnny Knox, Greg Jennings, Austin Collie
Te- Tony Gonzalez

My question is, is this a good trade for me ? Should I make this trade even though it boosts his WR core ?[/quote]I would say no. If you do this you will have a starting RB and TE from the same team, not good. Jennings should outperform Nicks, Gonzalez should outperform Cooley and although Portis should be better than CW, the RB/TE same team thing hurts you and Portis doesn't bring you enough benefit to justify the trade.

GusFrerotte 09-16-2010 05:42 PM

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I say go for it. Your team will still be pretty deep. The craziest trade I have had in my 11 seasons doing fantasy was proposed. THis guy is trading me Philip Rivers for Chris Chambers!!! I thought he was crazy, but his entire team is Chiefs!!!! I mean all of his starters are on KC! He gave me his best QB just to have all Chiefs. I doubt the commish is going to let it ride though, but it would be funny if she did. This one guy is balking about it.

johno 09-17-2010 04:33 AM

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[quote=GusFrerotte;734392]I say go for it. Your team will still be pretty deep. The craziest trade I have had in my 11 seasons doing fantasy was proposed. THis guy is trading me Philip Rivers for Chris Chambers!!! I thought he was crazy, but his entire team is Chiefs!!!! I mean all of his starters are on KC! He gave me his best QB just to have all Chiefs. I doubt the commish is going to let it ride though, but it would be funny if she did. This one guy is balking about it.[/quote]

no sane commish would let that slide.

MonkFan4Life 09-17-2010 08:49 AM

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I'm the commish of my league. If it's a money league then either I say hey it's your money to lose but you won't be in the league next year. If he's stacking your team then maybe I'd have to look at it but that is a deal that just wreaks of a hook up. Not saying that's what you're doing but it would seem that way. We had a guy like that in my league 2 years ago, would make ANY trade just because he wanted Eagles on his squad.

As far as the trade goes, I thought the same thing that I'm taking two Skins, I thought that Cooley would be an upgrade over Gonzalez but Caddy doesn't even start for me so that would give me a starter for a bench player. I'm hoping that Portis get's #1 RB points but that's what has me confused. Jennings does is fact give me the double up if Rodgers goes his way but Nicks could end up being the Red Zone guy for the Giants. My WR game is some garbage even with Jennings, so taking a chance on Niks and Breaston is a tad far fetched.

JoeRedskin 09-17-2010 09:24 AM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
So, I am one of the unlucky Ryan Grant owners. Making the best of a bad situation, who do you start in the flex spot (league has 3 WR's, 1 RB, 1 W/R; Colston & M. Turner are my sure starts):

R. Williams v. Minn
T. Jones v. Clev.
F. Taylor v. NYJ

or do I start a WR in the flex spot:
P. Garcon v. NYG
E. Royal v. Seattle
P. Harvin v. Miami

You get .5 pts per reception and 1 pt for every 25 rushing or rcving yards.

Chico23231 09-17-2010 09:42 AM

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^Id probably lean towards Garcon..

Mechanix544 09-17-2010 10:17 AM

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Harvin, favre gets it back this week

SOUL-SKINS 09-17-2010 10:30 AM

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HELP!
WOULD ANYONE TRADE JONES DREW FOR ARIAN FOSTER?
I just got the trade offer. I dunno what to do.

12thMan 09-17-2010 10:43 AM

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By the way, I won my first game as a rook. The other guy's team was stacked too. Get this D.Hall gave me 25 pts!

scowan 09-17-2010 10:55 AM

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;734573]HELP!
WOULD ANYONE TRADE JONES DREW FOR ARIAN FOSTER?
I just got the trade offer. I dunno what to do.[/quote]

You have Jones Drew? No. The Arian Foster "experience" won't happen every week. Kind of like me with Matt Forte on my fantasy team from last week. I'm am strongly considering benching him this week.

MTK 09-17-2010 10:57 AM

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If you're getting points per catch I would stick with MJD. Need to see a bit more from Foster too in order to be a believer.

SOUL-SKINS 09-17-2010 11:06 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;734581]If you're getting points per catch I would stick with MJD. Need to see a bit more from Foster too in order to be a believer.[/quote]

Yeah. I am getting points per catch. Yeah, kinda thinking the same thing.
Plus Foster is going up against the Skins this week so it would be hard to root for him! Thanks guys

Chico23231 09-17-2010 11:14 AM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
[quote=SOUL-SKINS;734573]HELP!
WOULD ANYONE TRADE JONES DREW FOR ARIAN FOSTER?
I just got the trade offer. I dunno what to do.[/quote]

No. You stick with the guy who has put up top 5 fantasy numbers the last 3 years.

SOUL-SKINS 09-17-2010 11:17 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;734586]No. You stick with the guy who has put up top 5 fantasy numbers the last 3 years.[/quote]


Good point. I lost last week and i'm already in panic mode.

scowan 09-17-2010 11:20 AM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
Here is a fatansy question for you guys to consider, please give me some advice. In my flex position this week, Jerome Harrison RB Cleveland @ home against the Chiefs or Clinton Portis obviously @ home against the Texans?

Monkeydad 09-17-2010 11:50 AM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
Portis easily.

Harrison lost carries to Peyton Hillis and is in the doghouse for Cleveland. He's at least in a 50-50 split, on the verge of losing his starting role. His only hope is that Hillis keeps fumbling, but Hillis has been tagged as the goal line back.

Portis doesn't seem to be in a battle for carries at all.

Chico23231 09-17-2010 11:55 AM

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[quote=scowan;734590]Here is a fatansy question for you guys to consider, please give me some advice. In my flex position this week, Jerome Harrison RB Cleveland @ home against the Chiefs or Clinton Portis obviously @ home against the Texans?[/quote]

This is such a toss up...Id lean towards portis...but Senaca Wallace could give that cleveland offense a lift at home

Monkeydad 09-17-2010 11:56 AM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;734544]So, I am one of the unlucky Ryan Grant owners. Making the best of a bad situation, who do you start in the flex spot (league has 3 WR's, 1 RB, 1 W/R; Colston & M. Turner are my sure starts):

R. Williams v. Minn
T. Jones v. Clev.
F. Taylor v. NYJ

or do I start a WR in the flex spot:
P. Garcon v. NYG
E. Royal v. Seattle
P. Harvin v. Miami

You get .5 pts per reception and 1 pt for every 25 rushing or rcving yards.[/quote]


Harvin isn't practicing, hip issue.
Royal missed Wednesday practice with a groin problem.
Garcon is the only sure player to get on the field.

Your WRs should be Colston, Garcon and Royal...hoping he plays.

RB Turner obviously.

Flex - I'd start Ricky Williams since it's a PPR. Thomas Jones is behind J. Charles and even though Fred Taylor is the top back in NE, he's dealing with a toe injury this week in practice.

Monkeydad 09-17-2010 11:57 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;734616]This is such a toss up...Id lean towards portis...but Senaca Wallace could give that cleveland offense a lift at home[/quote]

Not with his arm, KC's secondary is pretty good.

scowan 09-17-2010 12:16 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;734616]This is such a toss up...Id lean towards portis...but Senaca Wallace could give that cleveland offense a lift at home[/quote]

I just could not understand why Cleveland did not use Harrison more last week. It was a real mystery because he has so much more talent than the other guy.

MTK 09-17-2010 12:44 PM

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Harrison tore up KC last year, but KC seems better on D this year.

Monkeydad 09-17-2010 03:10 PM

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[quote=scowan;734623]I just could not understand why Cleveland did not use Harrison more last week. It was a real mystery because he has so much more talent than the other guy.[/quote]

Mangini.

Never try to figure out what he's thinking. You'll only get a headache.

scowan 09-17-2010 03:14 PM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
Ok, Portis over Harrison this week at the Flex. Matt Forte and Michael Turner in the two main RB slots. I just notcied that all of my RBs have an "R" as the third letter in their last names. I'm calling this the "Triple R formation". Wow, I've been looking at this too long!

itvnetop 09-23-2010 02:29 AM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
This is a longshot, but my second rb slot in one of my leagues is always a risk. I'm actually starting Keiland Williams this week as my rb2... my top back is mjd and the rest include cj spiller, peyton hillis and michael bush (I had Fred Jackson, but dropped him for keiland). Lack of rb depth is due to drafting a qb and te in the third and fourth rounds... Dallas Clark is hooking it up, though.

Normally, this is a bonehead move- and it very may turn out to be such. But looking at my other options, I don't think I have a choice... Spiller's spilling the beans with that three headed monster in Buffalo, Hillis isn't going anywhere against that Ravens' rush defense and Bush is way behind D-Mac in Oakland (plus he's working his way back from a broken thumb).

The Rams give up close to a buck fifty in rushing yards and I don't think Portis is going to get all of that... Hoping K. Will. pulls off a mini-Snelling this week after Larry Johnson's departure.

itvnetop 09-23-2010 02:32 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;734586]No. You stick with the guy who has put up top 5 fantasy numbers the last 3 years.[/quote]

I have MJD on one of my teams... and I'd make that trade. Foster's on a tear this season and when it comes to fantasy, it's all about what have you done for me lately. And the past three years are three years that have taken a toll on MJD's knees and as anyone can tell you- running backs are affected the most in the league.

Foster looks like the truth- he's going to have plenty of running lanes open this season with that air attack in Houston. Just because he was drafted in the third or fourth round of fantasy drafts this year and MJD was a top four pick, don't let that prohibit your thinking. If that trade's still on the table, take it.

SirClintonPortis 09-23-2010 10:28 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;734586]No. You stick with the guy who has put up top 5 fantasy numbers the last 3 years.[/quote]

That's a dumb criteria. Apply that to Miles Austin last year and you're the one crapping his own pants. Foster is this year's Miles Austin. He SHOULD take the trade. Jacksonville is going to pass a lot because of their leaky defense, and their passing game is shitty when they can't run play action.

Chico23231 09-23-2010 10:56 AM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;737841]That's a dumb criteria. Apply that to Miles Austin last year and you're the one crapping his own pants. Foster is this year's Miles Austin. He SHOULD take the trade. Jacksonville is going to pass a lot because of their leaky defense, and their passing game is shitty when they can't run play action.[/quote]

consistancy is a dumb criteria. :laughing2ok.

Yeah people have break out years, thats what makes the game fun. Im conservative when it comes to someone who proves it for like 5 years and someone who has a breakout game. Also I dont know the rest of the team either so, im much more conservative on the advice. Im giving an opinion so relax.

Hey im 2-0 in my $150 buy in league...and just traded Nanee from San Diego for Brandon Marshall....ill stick with getting Marshall the guy doing it for 5 years for a guy who played his first consecutive games at a high level:Smoker:

SirClintonPortis 09-23-2010 06:14 PM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
[quote=Chico23231;737851]consistancy is a dumb criteria. :laughing2ok.

Yeah people have break out years, thats what makes the game fun. Im conservative when it comes to someone who proves it for like 5 years and someone who has a breakout game. Also I dont know the rest of the team either so, im much more conservative on the advice. Im giving an opinion so relax.

Hey im 2-0 in my $150 buy in league...and just traded Nanee from San Diego for Brandon Marshall....ill stick with getting Marshall the guy doing it for 5 years for a guy who played his first consecutive games at a high level:Smoker:[/quote]


Legedu Naanee has a lower targetting priority than Gates and Floyd.
Foster is the #1 RB and has no timeshare.
#1 RBs/wrs/etc get the most touches, which means more points.
Your Marshall comparison fails to address Foster vs. Jones-Drew.
That guy is also a moron, as he should have realized that unless the WR is Miles Austin, Reggie Wayne and maybe a couple others, WRs will have those type of days.

Both Foster and Jones-Drew are #1s, so they tie there. But Foster is on a dynamic offense while Jones Drew is on a shitty team who's going to be facing a difficult schedule in the near future. Foster is on ZBS scheme, and he runs very well in it.

Of course, this was one week ago, but RBs do not just run for 200+ yards out of the blue. It's an indicator that shows he is capable of producing well every week. That, in turn, reduces the perceived risk.

tootergray34 09-23-2010 06:32 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;738025]Legedu Naanee has a lower targetting priority than Gates and Floyd.
Foster is the #1 RB and has no timeshare.
#1 RBs/wrs/etc get the most touches, which means more points.
Your Marshall comparison fails to address Foster vs. Jones-Drew.
That guy is also a moron, as he should have realized that unless the WR is Miles Austin, Reggie Wayne and maybe a couple others, WRs will have those type of days.

Both Foster and Jones-Drew are #1s, so they tie there. But Foster is on a dynamic offense while Jones Drew is on a shitty team who's going to be facing a difficult schedule in the near future. Foster is on ZBS scheme, and he runs very well in it.

Of course, this was one week ago, but RBs do not just run for 200+ yards out of the blue. It's an indicator that shows he is capable of producing well every week. That, in turn, reduces the perceived risk.[/quote]


yeah for real...can I get in this league next year? where you can trade people like that? What is this the terry schiavo league?

itvnetop 09-23-2010 07:02 PM

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[quote=tootergray34;738030]yeah for real...can I get in this league next year? where you can trade people like that? What is this the terry schiavo league?[/quote]

Hahaha... yeah i was going to comment on that trade too. Naanee for Marshall? Easy money!

Naanee had a good first game, but half of those yards and his score was off a busted coverage against KC. Rivers is going to look to Gates, then Floyd- Naanee is talented, but I think he'll be competing every week with Davis and Crayton for the leftovers.

I can't believe the league didn't veto that trade!

12thMan 09-23-2010 07:57 PM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
My fantasy has been suprisingly good. While one guy hasn't dominated, my Redskins have been doing a great job collectively:

Chris Cooley
Deanglo Hall
Santana Moss

Pittsburgh's defense has netted 36 pts through the first two games.

Donovan McNabb (bench, but I might start him over Rivers this week)

GTripp0012 09-23-2010 08:37 PM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
[quote=12thMan;738047]My fantasy has been suprisingly good. While one guy hasn't dominated, my Redskins have been doing a great job collectively:

Chris Cooley
Deanglo Hall
Santana Moss

Pittsburgh's defense has netted 36 pts through the first two games.

[B]Donovan McNabb (bench, but I might start him over Rivers this week)[/B][/quote]Make sure you know the status of Trent Williams this week before you do that. If Williams is out and Heyers in, McNabb won't be able to go down the field.

12thMan 09-23-2010 08:46 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;738056]Make sure you know the status of Trent Williams this week before you do that. If Williams is out and Heyers in, McNabb won't be able to go down the field.[/quote]


I'm sticking Rivers anyway, they're playing the Seahawks.

Whaddya think about my running backs this week:


[I]RB - Marshawn Lynch or Steve Slaton (both recently aquired)[/I]
Flex- Knowshon Moreno

Bench:

CJ Spiller

itvnetop 09-23-2010 09:08 PM

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[quote=12thMan;738059]I'm sticking Rivers anyway, they're playing the Seahawks.

Whaddya think about my running backs this week:


[I]RB - Marshawn Lynch or Steve Slaton (both recently aquired)[/I]
Flex- Knowshon Moreno

Bench:

CJ Spiller[/quote]

Do you have any better wideouts? Move Moreno to the rb slot and try to fit in a receiver at flex... Lynch had a decent week, but would you trust Gailey making a commitment to that rb trio? Also, Slaton's probably going to get his return duties stripped soon, in favor of Jones.

12thMan 09-23-2010 09:12 PM

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[quote=itvnetop;738060]Do you have any better wideouts? Move Moreno to the rb slot and try to fit in a receiver at flex... Lynch had a decent week, but would you trust Gailey making a commitment to that rb trio? Also, Slaton's probably going to get his return duties stripped soon, in favor of Jones.[/quote]

So you're suggesting starting Pierre Thomas and Moreno at RB

my current wideouts are: Santana Moss and Eddie Royal (starting for the first time this week)

Braylon Edwards on the bench.

Chico23231 09-23-2010 09:14 PM

Re: Fantasy Tips
 
[quote=itvnetop;738036]Hahaha... yeah i was going to comment on that trade too. Naanee for Marshall? Easy money!

Naanee had a good first game, but half of those yards and his score was off a busted coverage against KC. Rivers is going to look to Gates, then Floyd- Naanee is talented, but I think he'll be competing every week with Davis and Crayton for the leftovers.

[B]I can't believe the league didn't veto that trade[/B]![/quote]

Yeah, that the scary thing still pending. Its a friends league so I dont think it will be. But the kicker is he approached me with it...I wasnt seeking it, so what can I do...we went back and forth on a couple things, he chose this over [B]Mike Wallace [/B]my original offer.:food-smil:FIREdevil:pimp:


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