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[quote=itvnetop;739706]Who woulda thunk the McNabb trade would open the door for Michael the Vick Experience?

I have no clue on how our d is going to contain him next week. None at all.[/quote]

They won't contain him if they couldn't contain Sam Bradford

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=SportsFanatic;739719]They won't contain him if they couldn't contain Sam Bradford[/quote]Plus Vick's receivers are far more explosive than Bradford's. It could be a very long day.

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[quote=SouperMeister;739729]Plus Vick's receivers are far more explosive than Bradford's. It could be a very long day.[/quote]

When I looked at the schedule in the summer I actually thought the Eagles woul be 1-2 and the Skins would be 3-0 heading into that 10/3/10 matchup.

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In the next three games I am less scared of Vick and more scared of Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning. The next three games should be brutal for our reeling secondary.

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=Lotus;739765]In the next three games I am less scared of Vick and more scared of Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning. The next three games should be brutal for our reeling secondary.[/quote]

WTF are your smoking?
Rak is neutralized because the refs will always let the opposing players hold him.

Bradford got away from the rest of the D-linemen, and he sure looked like he could have gotten away from Rak as well.

Vick is more athletic than Bradford and he's shown that he can sling it now.
Combine that with Jackson and Maclin, and we're ****ing ****ed.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;739771]WTF are your smoking?
Rak is neutralized because the refs will always let the opposing players hold him.

Bradford got away from the rest of the D-linemen, and he sure looked like he could have gotten away from Rak as well.

Vick is more athletic than Bradford and he's shown that he can sling it now.
Combine that with Jackson and Maclin, and [B]we're ****ing ****ed[/B].[/quote]

well said...those Philly fans are gonna be brutal to McNabb. Haslett needs to step his game up, or Vick is gonna make us look like shit, I mean really bad. Not Bradford bad, which was raped-bad, but worst.

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=Lotus;739765]In the next three games I am less scared of Vick and more scared of Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning. The next three games should be brutal for our reeling secondary.[/quote]

Well I see all three of those QB's being a problem if Sam Bradford was a problem

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[quote=SportsFanatic;739781][B]Well I see all three of those QB's being a problem if Sam Bradford was a problem[/B][/quote]

That was my basic point. I still don't find Vick as scary as Manning, though. But we're screwed facing all 3.

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=Lotus;739791]That was my basic point. I still don't find Vick as scary as Manning, though. But we're screwed facing all 3.[/quote]

Manning is not a threat to run and has a average oline, so you can go blitz like Grilliams did to him and hope for the best.

Vick, you have to put a spy on him and keep contain, which makes it even more difficult to cover people.

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Vick has always been streaky.

On the other hand, Manning carves up people week after week without having to move around. As for Rodgers, he may not have Vick's mobility but he is more than mobile enough and deadly accurate.

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=Lotus;739807]Vick has always been streaky.

On the other hand, Manning carves up people week after week without having to move around. As for Rodgers, he may not have Vick's mobility but he is more than mobile enough and deadly accurate.[/quote]

This isn't the Atlanta Vick anymore. He's played well for three games and there's no reason to expect him to choke against us. Our defense is not much better than Jacksonville's or Detroit's.

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Do you think Haslett is smart enough to Blitz Vick on 3rd and 16?

Jags didn't blitz and the result was a 55 yd TD pass

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=SportsFanatic;739819]Do you think Haslett is smart enough to Blitz Vick on 3rd and 16?

Jags didn't blitz and the result was a 55 yd TD pass[/quote]

Lol, even if he does blitz, Vick might just run away from them all and toss a bomb anyway.

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=Lotus;739807]Vick has always been streaky.

On the other hand, Manning carves up people week after week without having to move around. As for Rodgers, he may not have Vick's mobility but he is more than mobile enough and deadly accurate.[/quote]Vick has arguably passed the ball better since replacing Kolb than at any point in his career. I am incredibly impressed with his improved pocket presense and touch passes. Andy Reid has done a great job coaching him up as a pocket passer. Of course Manning and Rodgers are great, but Vick is playing like a top 5 QB so far this year.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;739822]Lol, even if he does blitz, Vick might just run away from them all and toss a bomb anyway.[/quote]

But I thought teams studied film of their upoming opponents? The Jags never heard of Desean Jackson or Michael Vick?

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Division matchups are different but I'm ashamed. I hate the idea of being afraid of a Mike Vick led passing attack. Back in 2006 that would have qualified as a bad joke. Now it's a terrifying reality.

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[quote=SportsFanatic;739830]But I thought teams studied film of their upoming opponents? The Jags never heard of Desean Jackson or Michael Vick?[/quote]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Jags are probably too deficient in talent to handle the load.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;739832]Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Jags are probably too deficient in talent to handle the load.[/quote]

Hopefully we can fall back on, 'it's a division game so we'll play them tough no matter what' rational but after today it doesn't seem to encouraging.

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We are screwed. Man it sucks to be a skins fan.

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=SouperMeister;739828]Vick has arguably passed the ball better since replacing Kolb than at any point in his career. I am incredibly impressed with his improved pocket presense and touch passes. Andy Reid has done a great job coaching him up as a pocket passer. Of course Manning and Rodgers are great, but Vick is playing like a top 5 QB so far this year.[/quote]

Looking back, Vick would put together 3 or so games with passer ratings in the 100's. Then he would put together 3 or so games with passer ratings in the 40's.

Two or three games are not enough to evaluate him. I'm not a Vick believer yet.

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=Lotus;739847]Looking back, Vick would put together 3 or so games with passer ratings in the 100's. Then he would put together 3 or so games with passer ratings in the 40's.

Two or three games is not enough to evaluate him. I'm not a Vick believer yet.[/quote]

You will be next sunday

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[quote=skinsfaninok;739853]You will be next sunday[/quote]

Maybe. But I'm not going to ignore history in the meantime.

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We always play good in Philly. They really aren't that good. Funny thing is, if we win we are #1 in the East....lol

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looks like reid made the right move. vick is simply balling right now.

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Crap, here's what happened the last time Vick faced a Shanahan coached team.
[url=http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2004103108/2004/REG8/falcons@broncos/watch]NFL Game Center: Atlanta Falcons at Denver Broncos - 2004 Week 8[/url]

I know the irony of the narrators statements won't be lost on you guys. Remember this was 2004 when Vick was at his absolute peak. Opening line: "After being beaten like a mutt last week the Atlanta Falcons came into Denver...." And yes to make matters worse a pitbull is shown in this part of the video.

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I dont even want to watch this game. Our defense is garbage, we have a piss-poor offense, horrible running game, we are a last in the league team right now. The eagles will beat us as bad as the patriots did in 2007

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;739937]Crap, here's what happened the last time Vick faced a Shanahan coached team.
[url=http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2004103108/2004/REG8/falcons@broncos/watch]NFL Game Center: Atlanta Falcons at Denver Broncos - 2004 Week 8[/url]

I know the irony of the narrators statements won't be lost on you guys. Remember this was 2004 when Vick was at his absolute peak. Opening line: "After being beaten like a mutt last week the Atlanta Falcons came into Denver...." And yes to make matters worse a pitbull is shown in this part of the video.[/quote]

He was the top rusher.
Alge Crumpler was the top receiver.
Peerless Price was the second-top receiver.
Fat T.J Duckett was the runner up.

Compare that with
DeSean Jackson
Jeremy Maclin
LeSean McCoy

It's going to be a long day. St. Louis spared us some embarassment because their deep threat (Avery) was injured. Philly won't.

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=Lotus;739847]Looking back, Vick would put together 3 or so games with passer ratings in the 100's. Then he would put together 3 or so games with passer ratings in the 40's.

Two or three games are not enough to evaluate him. I'm not a Vick believer yet.[/quote]

Although you might be right i don't recall Vick stringing 3 plus 100 QB rating games together.(And Vick was one my favorite players)
But, what if he [I][B]can[/B][/I] sustain this level of performance?

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It just looks like Vick is becoming the passer that he has the ability to be. He's got the tools, he just needed to right coaching and the right attitude, and he needed to learn how to be a pro. That means doing all the little things, film study, working on his mechanics and so forth. I think he's doing all those things now it shows. I think being around McNabb for a year also helped.

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=skinsfan69;740107]It just looks like Vick is becoming the passer that he has the ability to be. He's got the tools, he just needed to right coaching and the right attitude, and he needed to learn how to be a pro. That means doing all the little things, film study, working on his mechanics and so forth. I think he's doing all those things now it shows. I think being around McNabb for a year also helped.[/quote]

Now that he has his dog fighting out of the way maybe he has more time to work on those.

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I love everybody on this site but can we please give the "Michael Vick dog fighting" thing a rest??

The fact is, the man has paid his time for the crime he committed.

I don't hear you guys complaining about all the players that have DUI, or domestic violence, or even players who have killed human beings as a result of their actions...

Give it a rest....

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1st time I've replied in this thread...

Personally,I like the Campbell bashing thread much better.

I have 4 dogs,so it's best for me not to give my opinion on a dog-killer.

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Like it or not Vick is going to be forever tied to dog fighting no matter what happens.

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But why do people give animals more rights than humans?

You dont hear anybody crying about Ray Lewis or Donte Stallworth, who killed human beings, or even Pac Man Jones, who twice was involved in a shooting.

Dog Fighting is inhumane and horrible, but nobody was lobbying for those other players to get lifetime bans...

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;740174]I love everybody on this site but can we please give the "Michael Vick dog fighting" thing a rest??

The fact is, the man has paid his time for the crime he committed.

I don't hear you guys complaining about all the players that have DUI, or domestic violence, or even players who have killed human beings as a result of their actions...

Give it a rest....[/quote]

yeah i agree. he went to jail and did his time, like he should have. but it's over and done with.

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

Vick's on pace to have exactly 4000 yards by the end of the season. He's averaging 250yds a game.

Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;740368]Vick's on pace to have exactly 4000 yards by the end of the season. He's averaging 250yds a game.[/quote]

Definitely won't last. He was never a good passer.

He'll get <250 this week.

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From most of the highlights I've seen Vick has had plenty of time. Of course he can buy time if there's no one open.

How Haslett calls this game will be just as or more intriguing than McNabb's return to philly. I think Haslett will be on his game. After 3 games he's seen what this defense can and can't do. I look for him to drop more in coverage & run some delayed blitzes.

We'll get burnt at least once by Vick - Jackson, but I have a feeling the D will have an otherwise big game.

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yeah, outside of jackson lighting us up for one long score, i dont know how this game is going to play out.

i think the skins will bring alot of effort and focus thoo.

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We'll show up this week. We always seem to play down to and up to the competition. I hate that.

Our disaster of a team nearly beat New Orleans and San Diego late last year, but gave a bunch of teams their first win of the season in what should have been the cakewalk portion of the schedule.