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[quote=Angry;745058]Everytime that he got the ball in his hands he did something with it. Don't forget the game that he had against the Saints. You cannot make plays if they don't give you the ball. I saw plenty of games last season where he was wide open and wasn't thrown to.

He is gone and I cannot change it I guess that the Skins will get someone else. My opinion on him is my opinion and I will not budge on it though.[/quote]

That single 100 yard game sure carries a lot of weight with folks eh?

Looking through his game logs you'll find far more 3-19, 1-7, 2-38 type performances.

Look, I was rooting for the guy and he's got some talent. He'll catch on somewhere else and contribute. I just don't think we're losing the next Larry Fitzgerald or anything.

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I wonder where he will land??
Theres seems to be a huge disconnect from what most of us fans (self included) and what insiders -(coaches/occasional media) are able to evalaute talent/potential. I had high hopes and realistic patience w/ DT. Afterall he was a valuable position in the draft for a team that NEEDS draft picks. Just sucks to feel like we wasted time/money/other great players ( i think desean jackson was even available then but we wanted a big receiver which i couldnt argue against but dag jokes on us again).

One of these years we'll get it right and not keep drafting taylor jacobs' and stop missing out on the a.boldin's.

The shape of this team is really suprising me, HTTR, I trust Shanahan.

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[quote=Mattyk;745060]That single 100 yard game sure carries a lot of weight with folks eh?

Looking through his game logs you'll find far more 3-19, 1-7, 2-38 type performances.

Look, I was rooting for the guy and he's got some talent. He'll catch on somewhere else and contribute. I just don't think we're losing the next Larry Fitzgerald or anything.[/quote]


I would call that single game a fluke too if I had not seen him get so open so often.

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It's tough..........but Anybody miss him today with Armstrong in the game? The kid is a gamer!!

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[quote=Hog1;745902]It's tough..........but Anybody miss him today with Armstrong in the game? The kid is a gamer!![/quote]

I loved the performance, but lets see it a couple weeks in a row.

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[quote=Angry;745058]Everytime that he got the ball in his hands he did something with it. Don't forget the game that he had against the Saints. You cannot make plays if they don't give you the ball. I saw plenty of games last season where he was wide open and wasn't thrown to.

He is gone and I cannot change it I guess that the Skins will get someone else. My opinion on him is my opinion and I will not budge on it though.[/quote]
Maybe he should convert to running back because if he can't get open he isn't going to get the ball in his hands.

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I think Banks is pretty good =D........

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[quote=Mattyk;745060]That single 100 yard game sure carries a lot of weight with folks eh?

[/quote]

Against a Saints defense that helped convince the Eagles to trade us McNabb. Let's leave it at that.

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Should have cut Roydell Williams instead. just my opinion though

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[QUOTE]
Mike Shanahan: Devin Thomas must commit to being a pro
On Saturday, Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan made the decision to release third-year receiver Devin Thomas. On Sunday, following the Redskins' 16-13 overtime win, Shanahan explained his reasoning.

"I sat down and talked to Devin many times and told him what he needed to do to be a pro football player," Shanahan said, "both on and off of the football field. And if he does do that, both on and off of the football field, he'll have a chance to play in the National Football League. But until he does that -- he's got the talent. He sure does. But he's going to have to commit to being a pro."

Shanahan did not elaborate on how Thomas wasn't conducting himself as a pro.

Thomas was on the field for only one offensive possession in the team's first four games. He was used primarily as a kickoff returner. The Redskins used two returners in his place Sunday: Chad Simpson and Brandon Banks both lined up deep on kickoffs

Banks had two returns for a total of 33 yards, Simpson had 27 yards in his lone return and Byron Westbrook also returned once for six yards.

By Rick Maese | October 10, 2010; 8:55 PM ET

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/devin-thomas/mike-shanahan-devin-thomas-mus.html]Redskins Insider - Mike Shanahan: Devin Thomas must commit to being a pro[/url][/QUOTE]

Wonder what he means by this.. Was he having a hard time with the playbook? Smoot said earlier he seemed like he was putting the extra time in during preseason.. Maybe he just gave up and was pissed off about playing time?

Armstrong has been money, but I still would have liked more YOUTH at the position. I'm still sad that DT was a bust. Maybe Kelly can pick it up next year, if he ever gets healthy..

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And -- any chance this is the ULTIMATE motivator for him? For example, Shanahan dumped Banks and brought him back, same with K.Williams. Is there a chance he brings back DT after humiliating him?

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[quote=ethat001;746166]Wonder what he means by this.. Was he having a hard time with the playbook? Smoot said earlier he seemed like he was putting the extra time in during preseason.. Maybe he just gave up and was pissed off about playing time?

Armstrong has been money, but I still would have liked more YOUTH at the position. I'm still sad that DT was a bust. Maybe Kelly can pick it up next year, if he ever gets healthy..[/quote]

I could be wrong but I think DT may have been a partier as well. Possibly percieved as NOT commited?

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[quote=ethat001;746167]And -- any chance this is the ULTIMATE motivator for him? For example, Shanahan dumped Banks and brought him back, same with K.Williams. Is there a chance he brings back DT after humiliating him?[/quote]

Both of those guys were rookies. Banks had fumbling problems. Keiland Williams maybe, but he's still a rookie. Devin is a third year pro.

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[quote=ethat001;746166]Wonder what he means by this.. Was he having a hard time with the playbook? Smoot said earlier he seemed like he was putting the extra time in during preseason.. Maybe he just gave up and was pissed off about playing time?

Armstrong has been money, but I still would have liked more YOUTH at the position. I'm still sad that DT was a bust. Maybe Kelly can pick it up next year, if he ever gets healthy..[/quote]

Did anybody pick him up on waivers? Also, just because he got released by us doesn't mean he's a bust. He can still succeed with somebody else. If he doesn't do anything of note then yeah he will be a bust but he's still got the opportunity, some NFL team might be willing to take a flyer on him.

I'd like to see his career pan out but so far it doesn't look good.

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[quote=mooby;746176]Did anybody pick him up on waivers? Also, just because he got released by us doesn't mean he's a bust. He can still succeed with somebody else. If he doesn't do anything of note then yeah he will be a bust but he's still got the opportunity, some NFL team might be willing to take a flyer on him.

I'd like to see his career pan out but so far it doesn't look good.[/quote]

The Rams don't even want him. [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/10/mark-clayton-out-for-year-but-rams-dont-want-devin-thomas/"]Linky to PFT[/URL].

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Boy that's pretty horrible. If a team with Danny Amendola as its' top wideout doesn't want him then it doesn't look good. Well good luck DT.

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[quote=Hog1;746173]I could be wrong but I think DT may have been a partier as well. Possibly percieved as NOT commited?[/quote]

I wonder if he just wasn't smart enough to play at the pro level. He was massive in size, strength, and his speed seemed reasonable. I really hope to know why if the story doesnt tell it self by the rest of his career but its not uncommon having players that take partying more serious than acheiving or reaching expected levels.

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[quote=SouperMeister;744897]Chris Horton is absolutely useless in coverage and Fred Davis was an unnecessary luxury with Cooley playing at a high level. [B]Also consider that we selected Davis with DeSean Jackson still on the board!!! [/B]The only pick that I feel good about from that entire draft is Kareem Moore. Considering that Vinny drafted 10 players in 2008 and only has one starter to show for it, yes, I would call it our worst draft EVER![/quote]

Desean Jackson ... chalk that up to this facsination with getting big, tall wide receivers.

I hope the picks of Kelly and Thomas forever do away with the idea that wideouts over six feet should be the priority over the guy who's 5'9".

The only things that matter are: can the guy get open, and is he fast? Height should be way down the list of things that are important.

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[quote=Beemnseven;746264]Desean Jackson ... chalk that up to this facsination with getting big, tall wide receivers.

I hope the picks of Kelly and Thomas forever do away with the idea that wideouts over six feet should be the priority over the guy who's 5'9".

The only things that matter are: can the guy get open, and is he fast? Height should be way down the list of things that are important.[/quote]

Ding ding.

I have never understood why height is so sought after. I mean how many times is a WR reaching up and grabbing passes out of the air over the secondary? Like 3% of the time. F that. Get someone who can get open. Who cares how big they are.

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don't know how many people were at the game or noticed it, but they always do the crunch of the game, the drive of the game and other crap like that at the stadium. well yesterday the hd play off the game came up and they ran the intro and the intro ended with a still shot of devin thomas, then they didn't show a play they left the still shot of devin up for a good 5 to 10 seconds it was kinda strange. anyone else notice that??

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/devin-thomas/mike-shanahan-devin-thomas-mus.html]Redskins Insider - Mike Shanahan: Devin Thomas must commit to being a pro[/url]

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[quote=mlmdub130;746286]don't know how many people were at the game or noticed it, but they always do the crunch of the game, the drive of the game and other crap like that at the stadium. well yesterday the hd play off the game came up and they ran the intro and the intro ended with a still shot of devin thomas, then they didn't show a play they left the still shot of devin up for a good 5 to 10 seconds it was kinda strange. anyone else notice that??[/quote]I actually did notice that. It was strange. We were all making jokes that they needed to throw a bomb to DT if we wanted to win.
Really though, I don't think there was any conspiracy or anything, I think it was just a coincidence.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;746297]I actually did notice that. It was strange. We were all making jokes that they needed to throw a bomb to DT if we wanted to win.
Really though, I don't think there was any conspiracy or anything, I think it was just a coincidence.[/quote]

yeah it was just strange i wondered how many people saw it

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[quote=jamf;745930]Maybe he should convert to running back because if he can't get open he isn't going to get the ball in his hands.[/quote]

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[quote=Mattyk;746293][url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/devin-thomas/mike-shanahan-devin-thomas-mus.html]Redskins Insider - Mike Shanahan: Devin Thomas must commit to being a pro[/url][/quote]

the article pretty much confirms nothing. something went down between dt and the shannys and they couldn't get past it. i really don't like that what appears to be personal dislikes made their way into a bussiness decision but so be it, what's done is done. dt is one player that i do hope to see suceed in the nfl, i just hope it's not in the nfc east.

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Not sure why it's assumed it was something personal.

Shanahan is questioning his overall commitment to the game on and off the field. Probably has more to do with off the field stuff, like preparing himself in the film room, knowing the play book in and out, basically the same things that were an issue ever since he was drafted. Getting caught sleeping in a team meeting was probably a big strike against him.

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I believe the Friday interview with Lavar was the last strike. If Shanny had multiple conversations about being a pro on and off the field, yet Thomas says he doesn't know why he's not getting on the field, Shanahan must have figured that he would never get through to the kid. Take the hint, and stop investing time in your web site, Twitter, and Facebook, and learn your playbook down cold. Spend extra time in the film room, or running extra routes with McNabb. Shanny said that Devin's talent wasn't the issue, it was all about his commitment. I hope that this is a HUGE wakeup call for Malcolm Kelly to work on the little things that the Shanahans clearly value.

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[quote=Mattyk;746307]Not sure why it's assumed it was something personal.

Shanahan is questioning his overall commitment to the game on and off the field. Probably has more to do with off the field stuff, like preparing himself in the film room, knowing the play book in and out, basically the same things that were an issue ever since he was drafted. [B]Getting caught sleeping in a team meeting was probably a big strike against him.[/B][/quote]

Wonder if Thomas ever got into with Brandon Banks over his posting those pics of Thomas sleeping

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[quote=SouperMeister;746357]I believe the Friday interview with Lavar was the last strike. If Shanny had multiple conversations about being a pro on and off the field, yet Thomas says he doesn't know why he's not getting on the field, Shanahan must have figured that he would never get through to the kid. Take the hint, and stop investing time in your web site, Twitter, and Facebook, and learn your playbook down cold. Spend extra time in the film room, or running extra routes with McNabb. Shanny said that Devin's talent wasn't the issue, it was all about his commitment. I hope that this is a HUGE wakeup call for Malcolm Kelly to work on the little things that the Shanahans clearly value.[/quote]

I don't think any of that stuff has ever been a problem for Kelly, he just can't stay healthy. Thomas, it seemed, was coming around to doing the little things...but maybe it was just too little too late.

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[quote=SmootSmack;746362]Wonder if Thomas ever got into with Brandon Banks over his posting those pics of Thomas sleeping[/quote]

Probably. He seemed to partially blame Banks for it by saying why did he have a cell phone in a meeting.

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Is he not a student of the game? Know the plays? Lift? WTF does commit to being pro mean? What has he not done not to be a pro?

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[quote=Mattyk;746365]Probably. He seemed to partially blame Banks for it by saying [B]why did he have a cell phone in a meeting[/B].[/quote]


Clearly for a competitive edge...LOL

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[quote=saden1;746372]Clearly for a competitive edge...LOL[/quote]

Ha! You gotta do you what you gotta do when you're a 5'7" undrafted free agent

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[quote=SmootSmack;746377]Ha! You gotta do you what you gotta do when you're a 5'7" undrafted free agent[/quote]

Don't hate the player, hate the game....LOL

I doubt the coaches didn't notice him sleeping. I fell asleep and snored in class once only to be woken up by the professor and the entire class's laughter. Fortunately I wasn't cut from the class.

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Hey we have Banks returning punts and now Chad Simpson returning kicks, so Devin Thomas , who can't play offense, is a casualty of the numbers.

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Devin who??

Was he a player of value for this team?

If you had become a Redskins fan this offseason would you even care if this guy was or wasnt on the team?

Other than kickoffs would you even know who he is?

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I heard that he had a substance abuse problem in college, which has now resurfaced. Take it with a grain of salt, but it was on one of the other message boards...

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[quote=SolidSnake84;746416]I heard that he had a substance abuse problem in college, which has now resurfaced. Take it with a grain of salt, but it was on one of the other message boards...[/quote]Now that would make sense regarding Shanny's comments about being a pro on [I]and off[/I] the field.

I recall Buddy Ryan years ago catching flack for releasing Cris Carter. At the time, he famously quoted that "all Carter could do was score TDs", but years later, it came out that Buddy was hiding the fact that Carter had a drinking problem. I respect Ryan for not disclosing that, which would've been a huge black mark on Carter trying to catch on elsewhere. The change of scenery worked well for Carter, and perhaps it will for Thomas, if in fact he has substance abuse issues.

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/devin-thomas/devin-thomas-and-mike-shanahan.html]Redskins Insider - Devin Thomas and Mike Shanahan: A bad fit[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;746444][url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/devin-thomas/devin-thomas-and-mike-shanahan.html]Redskins Insider - Devin Thomas and Mike Shanahan: A bad fit[/url][/quote]

I was never much of a Shanahan fan, but after reading this article I'm beginning to like him. I love the fact that draft status means nothing to him and people like Lorenzo Alexander, Armstrong and Banks who made the team by working hard and having perseverance, are his kind of players. Shanahan is just like Gibbs.