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[quote=hooskins;759395]Oline and RB blocking was pathetic last night. McNabb had no time whatsoever. That along with AH quitting is just embarrassing.

Terrible defensive play but [B]you can't cut the cord on Haslett just yet. Remember it's Shanny that wanted the 3-4 and told Haslett to implement it.[/B] We still don't have the right personnel but there are times we have seen shimmers of what our D can be.[/quote]

Thank you. Finally some sense. If you put Haslett back in Pittsburgh right now calling their defense, would you still say he sucks and should be fired? Conversly, would Dick LeBeau be able to do any better for us last night if he were the DC? Our defense is old, and the Eagles are way better than us. Plain and simple. There isn't a coach in the world that could have changed the outcome of that game if the players on the field didn't change with them.

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This won't make sense to anyone who hasn't seen Band of Brothers but Dan Snyder reminds me a lot of Capt Sobel (played by David Shwimmer the friends guy) there is one scene where EZ company is on a training excessive and they know where the other force is and Sobel can't contain himself, he knows that he should stay where he is and let them come to him but he just CAN'T he looks all panic stricken and he HAS to go and get them. Its just like Snyder and free agency he knows its a bad idea but he cant stop himself signing big free agents!

Just to be clear I like Daniel Snyder quite a bit, he is a good human being who has accomplished much in his life and he has given much back to the community.

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[quote=SmootSmack;759547]You really can't compare the Wizards/Capitals to the Redskins. Redskins fanhood is on a whole different level. Fans call for firings at the first holding call in a preseason game[/quote]

This fanbase in many ways seem desperate, grasping for straws, always looking for that someone who can duplicate "Buns" I.

Based on some of the things we witnessed going on at the game last night, the experience is beginning to be a not so plesant one.

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This was The Eagles in their finest hour.Thats all it was. Did we get our ass kicked? Yes. will this happen again to us? No, it was a once in a lifetime game. I will not give up on us, we still have 3 division games left.

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[quote=mredskins;759531]I don't think any team goes into a season and public says this a rebuilding year, that would be a PR nightmare.[/quote]

Yeah nobody admits it, even when it's obvious.

Fact is we turned over 1/3 of the roster, and that will continue next year especially when the big name free agents that were F'd over this year become available.

Doesn't matter what you call it though, if you had high expectations coming into this season sorry but that's your fault for being clueless. I think most reasonable fans were thinking 8-8 with this roster.

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[quote=SouperMeister;759306]We are witnessing Michael Vick becoming a complete QB, which is scary. He pretty much won the game against Indy last week, and played about as good a game at QB as I've ever seen tonight. This was more about Vick's great play than the Skins poor play. The guy was unstoppable.[/quote]

wow what can i say about vick he was incredible! but what the hell has haslet done the last 2 weeks? heads need to roll over this and soon

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[quote=warpaint;759580]This was The Eagles in their finest hour.Thats all it was. Did we get our ass kicked? Yes. will this happen again to us? No, it was a once in a lifetime game. I will not give up on us, we still have 3 division games left.[/quote]

I'm with you

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[quote=Mattyk;759596]Yeah nobody admits it, even when it's obvious.

Fact is we turned over 1/3 of the roster, and that will continue next year especially when the big name free agents that were F'd over this year become available.

Doesn't matter what you call it though, if you had high expectations coming into this season sorry but that's your fault for being clueless. I think most reasonable fans were thinking 8-8 with this roster.[/quote]


I would hope any reasonable person wouldn't expect us to be playing for home field advantage. However, when you go out and pay $100million for this guy, $7 million for the best coach out there, trading for McNabb, Jamaal Brown to help solidify the oline, you do kind of think we would win those "winable" games. And at least be in the mix for a wild-card. Which we still are. Only two games out of the division with two games against the Giants still on the schedule. So, we aren't done by any means. But Redskins fans as a whole buy into the hype quicker than any team in the NFL. I went from 7-9 to 9-7 as an early prediction, and think it is still possible. I think people / fans are tired of seeing the same Redskins team every year no matter who the coach is, who the QB is...it just seems we are destined to be mediocore or worse. Last night was just unacceptable, especially coming of a bye week. We looked so unprepared it was ridiculous.

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[quote=tjmorgan;759548]Unfortunately, I have a very bad feeling that this is the start of the downward spiral for us this year.[/quote]

the way our oline played the last couple of games is very alarming in the sense that the plays were running are going to get mcnabb killed. So we must not be able to adjust anything so he has time to throw the ball.I think they are worn down already.

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:soapbox:[quote=huntz;759342]Monday night was a disgrace! Comin' off the bye...and see this! Tried to pound square pegs into round holes with the 3-4 D this season...it isn't working!!!! WILL NOT beat Titans on Sunday...can't beat an AFC opponent. And the new contract...unbelievable!!!! Lucky to win 2 games rest of season. :soapbox: OOONOOOO we suck again!!!!![/quote]

yes it is true 2 games we suck again

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[quote=#56fanatic;759560]I just dont get where Eagle fans should be upset. They have been one of the more dominating teams over the last 10 years. 9 playoff appearances in 11 years. of those 9 - 5 NFC championships, 1 superbowl appearance. I would gladly trade our last 10 years for theirs in a second.[/quote]


No no you misunderstood me. lol. He's tired of hearing every year that "next year will be the Skins year." and to be honest he's probably right. How many of us sat back over the summer and had to tell people to chill out with the Super Bowl BS? Just cause Shanahan has been there doesn't mean we are going year 1.

If the owner was looking for that I think he should have picked up a HC who would have came in and evaluated the talent on the team and decided to run an offense and defense that worked best for the players we had. Part of Zorn's problem was we didn't have the right personel to run the WCO. I'm trying not to stick up for Zorn here. So what does Snyder pick up? A HC that runs the WCO. It might take 2 to 3 years before we should even be talking playoffs. Then there's the defense.... we are switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4, we don't have the personel to run a 3-4. But we are not doing bad doing it.

Basically I'm saying before fans scream fire someone can we give this HC time to effectively get the team working right? thats all and not expect miracles right from the get go.

I'm severely disappointed in last night but the team has looked better in other games.

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[quote=#56fanatic;759605]I would hope any reasonable person wouldn't expect us to be playing for home field advantage. However, when you go out and pay $100million for this guy, $7 million for the best coach out there, trading for McNabb, Jamaal Brown to help solidify the oline, you do kind of think we would win those "winable" games. And at least be in the mix for a wild-card. Which we still are. Only two games out of the division with two games against the Giants still on the schedule. So, we aren't done by any means. But Redskins fans as a whole buy into the hype quicker than any team in the NFL. I went from 7-9 to 9-7 as an early prediction, and think it is still possible. I think people / fans are tired of seeing the same Redskins team every year no matter who the coach is, who the QB is...it just seems we are destined to be mediocore or worse. Last night was just unacceptable, especially coming of a bye week. We looked so unprepared it was ridiculous.[/quote]

I'm really not sure any amount of preparation would have made a difference. We flat out got whupped on the field. Their starting 22 just outplayed our 22, in a big way.

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[quote=Mattyk;759619]I'm really not sure any amount of preparation would have made a difference. We flat out got whupped on the field. Their starting 22 just outplayed our 22, in a big way.[/quote]

And our DC got schooled by their OC. What makes me mad is how in the hell does a D that has been ranked in the top 10 over the last few years is ranked last and allowing a shitload of yards. New system, whatever excuse they want to use, then don't switch if you don't have the personnel.

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[quote=Mattyk;759619]I'm really not sure any amount of preparation would have made a difference. We flat out got whupped on the field. Their starting 22 just outplayed our 22, in a big way.[/quote]

no doubt they wanted it more than we did. But i just go back to a couple of plays during that game. Running 3 straight times on our first series (with a guy that hasn't played at all), then Moss's failed attempt at catching the ball on 3rd down, which led to the 21-0 score. Then Galloway dropping the pass on 3rd down, then its 28-0. If we convert those two third downs i think it is a totally different ball game. Those drives stay alive and maybe we put some points up. It was just so out of control when the 2nd quarter started. Kills me to see old ass Galloway out there. He really does absolutely nothing. No one is scared of him. The single cover him every play which does nothing for any other receiver on the field. I still find it hard to believe Thomas couldn't play infront of this guy.

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most of us were loving the D when they were getting all those turnovers.

im confused, to be honest this year it is hard for me to see what adjustments we make in game on the d side of the ball. its just hard to tell what kind of D we are playing on any given play watching on the tv.

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[quote=over the mountain;759626]most of us were loving the D when they were getting all those turnovers.

im confused, to be honest this year it is hard for me to see what adjustments we make in game on the d side of the ball. its just hard to tell what kind of D we are playing on any given play watching on the tv.[/quote]

Unfortunately we don't have the offense to convert those turnover into points. I'd be curious to know what points of turnover stat for the Skins this season looks like.

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[quote=#56fanatic;759605]I think people / fans are tired of seeing the same Redskins team every year no matter who the coach is, who the QB is...it just seems we are destined to be mediocore or worse. Last night was just unacceptable, especially coming of a bye week. We looked so unprepared it was ridiculous.[/quote]

It's this. I understand that we're not a great team by any means, it's just getting blown out that bad at home considering we've beaten the same team in their place to the tune of 59 points just makes me feel like that change is never coming. I thought if anything like you said, McNabb, Jamaal Brown, Trent Williams that we'd be looking so much better by now.

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Yeah it looked like we did jack **** during the bye week.

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[B]Points From Turnovers[/B]

Before the bye, Washington had approximately 9 INTs and 9 Fumbles Recovered for a total of 18 Takeaways.

Since two of those takeaways ended the game (or the Redskins ran out the clock), let's say 16 true take aways.

From 16 Takeaways, the Redskins got 4 TDs and 3 FGs.

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[quote=#56fanatic;759624]no doubt they wanted it more than we did. But i just go back to a couple of plays during that game. [B]Running 3 straight times on our first series[/B] [B](with a guy that hasn't played at all),[/B] then Moss's failed attempt at catching the ball on 3rd down, which led to the 21-0 score. Then Galloway dropping the pass on 3rd down, then its 28-0. If we convert those two third downs i think it is a totally different ball game. Those drives stay alive and maybe we put some points up. It was just so out of control when the 2nd quarter started. Kills me to see old ass Galloway out there. He really does absolutely nothing. No one is scared of him. The single cover him every play which does nothing for any other receiver on the field. I still find it hard to believe Thomas couldn't play infront of this guy.[/quote]

Williams has played plenty this year.

Regardless, not sure any of that would have mattered with the way they shredded our D. They scored at will.

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DeSean's choice of words are a little uncomfortable for Vick:

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/DeSean-Jackson-s-unfortunate-word-choice-Eagles?urn=nfl-286299]DeSean Jackson's unfortunate word choice: Eagles 'like pit bulls' - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;759628]It's this. I understand that we're not a great team by any means, it's just getting blown out that bad at home considering we've beaten the same team in their place to the tune of 59 points just makes me feel like that change is never coming. [B]I thought if anything like you said, McNabb, Jamaal Brown, Trent Williams that we'd be looking so much better by now.[/quote][/B]

I don't know what trade looks worse. Brown or McNabb. They both stink. Brown can't even stay on the field and has to have Mr. Roller Skates come in for him..... and we all know about McNabb's struggles.

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[quote=#56fanatic;759605]I would hope any reasonable person wouldn't expect us to be playing for home field advantage. However, when you go out and pay $100million for this guy, $7 million for the best coach out there, trading for McNabb, Jamaal Brown to help solidify the oline, you do kind of think we would win those "winable" games. And at least be in the mix for a wild-card. Which we still are. [B]Only two games out of the division with two games against the Giants still on the schedule. So, we aren't done by any means.[/B] But Redskins fans as a whole buy into the hype quicker than any team in the NFL. I went from 7-9 to 9-7 as an early prediction, and think it is still possible. I think people / fans are tired of seeing the same Redskins team every year no matter who the coach is, who the QB is...it just seems we are destined to be mediocore or worse. Last night was just unacceptable, especially coming of a bye week. We looked so unprepared it was ridiculous.[/quote]

Oh we're more than done. After watching this team for 9 games do you honestly think we're a playoff team? Do you really think we can beat NY? C'mon. Playoff teams don't go 4 for 500 on 3rd down.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;759645]DeSean's choice of words are a little uncomfortable for Vick:

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/DeSean-Jackson-s-unfortunate-word-choice-Eagles?urn=nfl-286299]DeSean Jackson's unfortunate word choice: Eagles 'like pit bulls' - Shutdown Corner - NFL* - Yahoo! Sports[/url][/quote]

Vick's past will always dog him.

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[quote=Lotus;759650]Vick's past will always dog him.[/quote]

Good one!!:food-smil

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[quote=skinsfan69;759648]Oh we're more than done. After watching this team for 9 games do you honestly think we're a playoff team? Do you really think we can beat NY? C'mon. Playoff teams don't go 4 for 500 on 3rd down.[/quote]

Yup, Who the heck wants to stumble into the playoffs by some mathematical miracle just to have our asses handed to us? Not me. Lets just hope for steady improvement this season.

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[quote=#56fanatic;759560]I just dont get where Eagle fans should be upset. They have been one of the more dominating teams over the last 10 years. 9 playoff appearances in 11 years. of those 9 - 5 NFC championships, 1 superbowl appearance. I would gladly trade our last 10 years for theirs in a second.[/quote]

Well loosing hurts durn the season and loosing hurts even more the deaper you get into the playoffs. The Eagle fans have nothing to show for what the team has done but a pat on the back. Like last night did not really bother me that bad because the game was over after the first 10 min. and after that it became pretty funny. If we had lead until a last minute FG I would have been deflated from the loss.

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[quote=SmootSmack;759303]No excuse for tonight. Will they fold it up or bounce back is the real question[/quote]

Too late. After lions and bye week it was fold it up or bounce back.

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[quote=cdskins26;759667]Too late. After lions and bye week it was fold it up or bounce back.[/quote]

Idk man. 7 games left and we're one game out of .500. Doesn't feel too late to me. Logic says after everything that's happened we might be headed on a downward spiral but as NFL fans we should all know rarely do things happen logically in the NFL. According to logic the Pats should've smoked Cleveland a week ago and we all know how that turned out.

I'll wait to declare the season over until we're several games under .500 and we've consistently looked awful. Last night was just one of those nights where absolutely nothing went in our favor. It happens in the NFL. Just ask the Chiefs if the 2-6 Broncos were an easy opponent.

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By the way did anyone else see TO's tweet about Donovan's contract?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/16/t-o-claims-his-brother-posted-the-anti-donovan-twitter-message/related/]T.O. claims his brother posted the anti-Donovan Twitter message | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Or his brother's tweet, as TO claimed

Donovan had a good response though. Bengals are 2-7, or something like that, so who's he to talk

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Haynesworth. I like the guy. He's as valuable asset. But... Last night....

Just pointing something out and I dunno if anyone else heard/saw this... Trevor Maitich commented on the post-game that the play where Vick had 8 seconds to run around in the pocket near our goal line Haynesworth made penetration into the pocket, fell on his face... and stayed there, while Orakpo is busting his balls trying to get away from the o-lineman and get to Vick.

I don't know if anyone actually saw that on the replay but if that's any sign to the type of effort the Skins were putting into the Monday night game... That's absolutely friggin inexcusable.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;759682]Haynesworth. I like the guy. He's as valuable asset. But... Last night....

Just pointing something out and I dunno if anyone else heard/saw this... Trevor Maitich commented on the post-game that the play where Vick had 8 seconds to run around in the pocket near our goal line Haynesworth made penetration into the pocket, fell on his face... and stayed there, while Orakpo is busting his balls trying to get away from the o-lineman and get to Vick.

I don't know if anyone actually saw that on the replay but if that's any sign to the type of effort the Skins were putting into the Monday night game... That's absolutely friggin inexcusable.[/quote]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/759522-post781.html[/url]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;759682]Haynesworth. I like the guy. He's as valuable asset. But... Last night....

Just pointing something out and I dunno if anyone else heard/saw this... Trevor Maitich commented on the post-game that the play where Vick had 8 seconds to run around in the pocket near our goal line Haynesworth made penetration into the pocket, fell on his face... and stayed there, while Orakpo is busting his balls trying to get away from the o-lineman and get to Vick.

I don't know if anyone actually saw that on the replay but if that's any sign to the type of effort the Skins were putting into the Monday night game... That's absolutely friggin inexcusable.[/quote]

I think I have to disagree with DM as to "we cannot win without AH".
At the FIRST POSSIBLE moment that makes sense...
Unload his problematic, poisenous, lazy ass.
I'm over him

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[quote=SmootSmack;759684][url]http://www.thewarpath.net/759522-post781.html[/url][/quote]

The more I study this play the more I see. Carter was double teamed at one point and then wreaked #71 and still almost got to Vick. The only guy standing in his way was #78 assigned to AH but was able to leave AH on the ground and pick up the block on Carter.

Watch Carter throw #71 to the ground like a little bitch and how fast he gets after Vick. I like that!!!

Thanks for posting this clip SS

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[quote=SmootSmack;759681]By the way did anyone else see TO's tweet about Donovan's contract?

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/16/t-o-claims-his-brother-posted-the-anti-donovan-twitter-message/related/"]T.O. claims his brother posted the anti-Donovan Twitter message | ProFootballTalk[/URL]

Or his brother's tweet, as TO claimed

Donovan had a good response though. Bengals are 2-7, or something like that, so who's he to talk[/quote]

People wonder why guys like Moss and Owens will never win a SB? This is why, Cancers in the locker room almost never succeed, which is why AH will be cut after the season

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[quote=saden1;759304]I will be seriously shocked if Jim isn't fired at the end of the season.[/quote]

He should be fired now!
Hasslett has been terrible. The defense is regressing again.

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[quote=Defensewins;759697]He should be fired now!
Hasslett has been terrible. The defense is regressing again.[/quote]

He is not the one that decided on the 3-4. He is doing the best he can, we just got bombed on last night.

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what a frustrating game to watch ... i was so pumped up ... what a joke we are in primetime .. this was the WORST NFL GAME IN MNF HISTORY .. made the "swinging gate" game from last year seem good

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[quote=SmootSmack;759681]By the way did anyone else see TO's tweet about Donovan's contract?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/16/t-o-claims-his-brother-posted-the-anti-donovan-twitter-message/related/]T.O. claims his brother posted the anti-Donovan Twitter message | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Or his brother's tweet, as TO claimed

Donovan had a good response though. Bengals are 2-7, or something like that, so who's he to talk[/quote]

Thats the 2 nd time this year TO said something, first the benching and now this. Its funny, this dude was all over McNabb's nutz when he didnt have a team and was a free agent now look at him. Kudos to Shanny for not going after this little girl.

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We will rebound next week against the Titans. Then the players will act like they won the superbowl and get their butts handed to them the following week. Different coach and players, same sorry ass results....