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[quote=skinsfaninok;775455]Nothing against Jim harbaugh but he won't bring a dynasty to sf unless he gets a QB like manning. Those days in today's NFL are over except NE an that's just because their unreal.. I see what your saying about his family background etc.. But like I said earlier Hes never been a HC in the NFL, the players are boss in the league it's not college kids anymore. Does that mean you can't be successful?? Heck no but it makes it harder.[/quote]

Remember, he was a QB himself and has coached Luck to what he is today. He could easily draft another one of those QB's available on this draft and do wonders with whoever it is.

Here's a good article.

[url=http://www.mercurynews.com/tim-kawakami/ci_17012756?nclick_check=1]Tim Kawakami: San Francisco 49ers appear to have inside track on Jim Harbaugh - San Jose Mercury News[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775456]Remember, he was a QB himself and has coached Luck to what he is today. He could easily draft another one of those QB's available on this draft and do wonders with whoever it is.

Here's a good article.

[url=http://www.mercurynews.com/tim-kawakami/ci_17012756?nclick_check=1]Tim Kawakami: San Francisco 49ers appear to have inside track on Jim Harbaugh - San Jose Mercury News[/url][/quote]

I agree and I hope he does a good job, his brother is a damn good coach himself.. Like SS said it's just not a lock yet.

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Word on local radio is Denver is high on Greg Williams and set to interview him. He deserves a HC job again

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775459]Word on local radio is Denver is high on Greg Williams and set to interview him. He deserves a HC job again[/quote]

I just saw that in the wash. post. I still miss the GW defenses, he got a lot out of his guys.

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[quote=Mattyk;775427]Harbaugh seems to be the frontrunner for the 9ers job[/quote]

Indeed.. the Michigan AD said he thinks that Harbaugh is headed to the NFL but will continue talking to him.

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[quote=freddyg12;775461]I just saw that in the wash. post. I still miss the GW defenses, he got a lot out of his guys.[/quote]

Maybe in 2 years we can get him back as DC :cheeky-sm

j/k hope he does well

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It's official, Wade Phillips is now defensive coordinator for Houston Texans.
At least he doesn't have to move far.

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If they don't get shaken up too much on offense that could be a strong team.

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Rob Ryan interviewed for the Carolina job

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775450]I hope you are right, I just don't want SF to be like the 80's again. I hate the 49ers and their fans, bunch of arrogant A-holes![/quote]

You might be getting your wish

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Harbaugh to dolphins?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775557]Harbaugh to dolphins?[/quote]

I hope so.

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Maybe we shoulda extended zorn another year? Nobody can break the bank like snyder to bring in his man. Harbaugh is a balllllerrrrrrr!

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Yeah they're saying that SF won't compete with MIA in a $ for $ matchup.

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Dolphins owner traveled cross country to offer Harbaugh $8 million after Cowher allegedly turned them down(and they still haven't fired Sparano). Like I said, owner is looking to make a big move

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8M for an unproven NFL coach? Crazy.

Most of these college guys don't transition real well to the pros either.

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[quote=hooskins;775592]8M for an unproven NFL coach? Crazy.

[B]Most of these college guys don't transition real well to the pros either[/B].[/quote]

True but the NFL will always have an infatuation for college coaches. Plus with Harbaugh's ties to the NFL, being a former NFL qb, having a brother as a head coach, teams like that and it adds to his value.

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Spurrier played in the NFL... it didn't seem to help him any

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[quote=Defensewins;775485]It's official, Wade Phillips is now defensive coordinator for Houston Texans.
At least he doesn't have to move far.[/quote]

Great fit for ole Wide Phillips. Houston has alot of talent on D, Wade probably shift'm to the 3-4.

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Who cares if you played in the NFL or your brother coaches? How does that directly translate in your ability to COACH an NFL team? It doesn't and we have seen that proven in the past.

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[quote=Chico23231;775598]Great fit for ole [B]Wide Phillips[/B]. Houston has alot of talent on D, Wade probably shift'm to the 3-4.[/quote]

Freudian slip of the year?

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Harbaugh might do ok. He's been running a pro style scheme at the college level. He'd probably be better off taking the Panthers job if it was available since they have the #1 pick and he could pick up his QB who already would know the scheme, but perhaps the Panthers don't want him and then it's up to whoever will pay the most. It would be interesting if whoever he goes to the team makes a deal with the Panthers to draft the QB for Harbaugh and Harbaugh's new team drafts a player for the Panthers and they trade players.

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So the fallback plan for the Niners is Josh McDaniels? Can't believe McDaniels would/should get another opportunity so quickly

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;775598]Great fit for ole Wide Phillips. Houston has alot of talent on D, [B]Wade probably shift'm to the 3-4.[/[/B]QUOTE]

Supposedly thats why they picked up Wade. However there also is speculation as to how good the defense will be since the team does not have all the players needed for a 3/4 defense (sound familiar) and the impending lockout/strike.

Apparently the other thought process is that if the HC is not getting it done they can fire him and Wade can take over either during the year or at the end of next yr. Maybe it's just me but Wade has yet to prove to me that he's HCing material. Awesome DC but horrid HC.

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Harbaugh deal to the Dolphins is reportedly very close.

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[quote=SmootSmack;775604]So the fallback plan for the Niners is Josh McDaniels? Can't believe McDaniels would/should get another opportunity so quickly[/quote]

Yeah seriously. He was a complete disaster in Denver. I'm shocked he's getting any consideration. It's like if Zorn had gotten another HC gig.

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[quote=Mattyk;775614]Yeah seriously. He was a complete disaster in Denver. I'm shocked he's getting any consideration. It's like if Zorn had gotten another HC gig.[/quote]

Agreed. I figured his best chance was at getting a coordinator job & moving up years later.

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[quote=Mattyk;775595]Spurrier played in the NFL... it didn't seem to help him any[/quote]

Well, Spurrier also didn't have much work ethic as a head coach. The guy thought he could play 72 holes of golf a week and still make it as an NFL HC . I don't really see that kind of attitude from Harbaugh. He seems like a pretty awesome coach to me, at least on the college level.

I think his 15 years in the NFL will certainly help. He knows the deal.

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So if Harbaugh signs and Henne stays. That's Owner, Head Coach, QB...all Michigan alums

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[quote=hooskins;775592]8M for an unproven NFL coach? Crazy.

Most of these college guys don't transition real well to the pros either.[/quote]

He'll be worth every penny.

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SFRedskin, how so?

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[quote=GMScud;775617]Well, Spurrier also didn't have much work ethic as a head coach. The guy thought he could play 72 holes of golf a week and still make it as an NFL HC . I don't really see that kind of attitude from Harbaugh. He seems like a pretty awesome coach to me, at least on the college level.

I think his 15 years in the NFL will certainly help. He knows the deal.[/quote]

No doubt Harbaugh seems to have the drive that Spurrier lacked. That will definitely be a big factor in whether he makes it at the next level.

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Look I am not saying he won't be a good coach in the pros. I am saying just based on his college success, NFL experience as a player and his kin doesn't translate into that kind of salary.

Don't say the free market has spoken. The NFL is quite the opposite of a purely private entity. It is also hyper inflated by a certain media network. I was listening to Mike and Mike this morning, and he was mentioning exactly what I was thinking about last night. The salary is a flaw in the system and needs to be regulated, just like the rookie salary. When you create a regulated league which is given monopolistic rights, it needs to be kept in check constantly.

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The reason the Dolphins are paying that much is because they really want him and don't want him going elsewhere. Jim Harbaugh is the real deal, trust me. His brother John was a special teams coach at Philly for years and look how that turned out? Jim has 15 years experience as player and 2 as a QB coach in the NFL, he has a passion,fire and is very competitive, remember him as "captain comeback". At one point someone has to give him a chance. Remember when Joe Gibbs was hired by the Redskins, people were going who the hell is this guy?

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[quote=SmootSmack;775619]So if Harbaugh signs and Henne stays. That's Owner, Head Coach, QB...all Michigan alums[/quote]

Denard Robinson, future dolphins wildcat qb!

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[quote=freddyg12;775635]Denard Robinson, future dolphins wildcat qb![/quote]

LOL...forgot about Jake Long too

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[quote=hooskins;775601]Who cares if you played in the NFL or your brother coaches? How does that directly translate in your ability to COACH an NFL team? It doesn't and we have seen that proven in the past.[/quote]

Hey, I'm not arguing that it helps them be a better coach, I'm just saying teams look at that as a positive. I'm not a fan of hiring college coaches at all just because of the Spurrier ordeal. Hoo you should know by now that sometimes logic doesn't always work in the NFL. Spurrier never should've been hired in the first place but that didn't stop Snyder. Same thing with all the other retread college coaches, Bobby Petrino never should've left college football.

EDIT: And could've mentioned this before but he runs a pro style offense at Stanford. If you think that doesn't factor into it as well you'd be wrong.

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[quote=mooby;775641]EDIT: And could've mentioned this before but he runs a pro style offense at Stanford. If you think that doesn't factor into it as well you'd be wrong.[/quote]

And most of his staff at Standford are ex-NFL coaches like Vic Fangio the DC.

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I think Harbaugh will be an exception to the rule, but its a super gamble to take a college coach and then on top to give him a ton of money. Listening to Chris Landry the other day, he was saying the best coaches were first seasoned cordinators. To give a college coach over 5 mil per season in his first NFL HC job is absurd

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775633]The reason the Dolphins are paying that much is because they really want him and don't want him going elsewhere. Jim Harbaugh is the real deal, trust me. His brother John was a special teams coach at Philly for years and look how that turned out? Jim has 15 years experience as player and 2 as a QB coach in the NFL, he has a passion,fire and is very competitive, remember him as "captain comeback". At one point someone has to give him a chance. Remember when Joe Gibbs was hired by the Redskins, people were going who the hell is this guy?[/quote]

I really don't get why Jim Harbaugh is getting so much attention. 7 mil per year??? lol. Only in the NFL does silly stuff like this happen. Like the guy has a magic wan or something. He's done a GREAT job at Stanford but the NFL IS NOT the Pac Ten. And regarding his brother, just cause John does a good job has nothing to do with Jim. Having a solid owner and a top front office sure helps John's cause. Not saying Jim's going fail but he's got no track record in the NFL as a head coach or even as a coordinator.