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SmootSmack 01-04-2011 05:57 PM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=juskins;775184]I am sure others have said the same of you and your posts.[/quote]

Excuse me?

SmootSmack 01-04-2011 05:58 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;775186]The Panthers passing on Luck because they have Jimmy Clausen would have been like the Colts passing on Manning had they drafted Jake Plummer in the year before. They will cut their losses in a heartbeat to draft Luck.[/quote]

Or they keep both, as I mentioned in another post many coaches and execs are starting to prepare for an 18 game season with the mentality that you need two starting QBs. Vick and Kolb. Luck and Clausen. Campbell and Gradkowski....Smith and Ponder :)

SmootSmack 01-04-2011 06:01 PM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=juskins;775183]No, I didn't care to read his link and last time I checked, its my prerogative. I don't believe the sensationalism created by a twit.[/quote]

Don't want to read it fine, but then don't comment on it

skinsfaninok 01-04-2011 06:02 PM

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[quote=juskins;775183]No, I didn't care to read his link and last time I checked, its my prerogative. I don't believe the sensationalism created by a twit.[/quote]

Damn who pissed u off? lol

Dirtbag59 01-04-2011 06:05 PM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;775190]Or they keep both, as I mentioned in another post many coaches and execs are starting to prepare for an 18 game season with the mentality that you need two starting QBs. Vick and Kolb. Luck and Clausen. Campbell and Gradkowski....Smith and Ponder :)[/quote]

Sorry, the cut their losses comment was misleading. Obviously if the Panthers drafted Luck it would still be a good idea to keep around Clausen.

juskins 01-04-2011 06:16 PM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=GreekSkin;774996]The funny thing is, who thought the same about Tom when he got drafted.[/quote]



I looked at all of the highlights of Luck on You Tube and I just don't see what all the fanfare is for him. He throws, mostly, a Billy Kilmer ball that wobbles. I noticed that some of his deep balls have too much air under them. He has a strong arm and appears to be mobile. Does this make him the best? Does Stanford play top caliper teams?

But saying he is the best QB to come out of college in last 25 years is a stretch. Bradford is much better at what he was billed to be by the experts.

SmootSmack 01-04-2011 06:19 PM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;775197]Sorry, the cut their losses comment was misleading. Obviously if the Panthers drafted Luck it would still be a good idea to keep around Clausen.[/quote]

Matt Moore wants to come back to Carolina. Not sure why, he should test the market. They still have Tony Pike, who I think is way overrated. And I think they're still paying Delhomme. Carolina is QB central!

wilsowilso 01-04-2011 06:24 PM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
Hey newbie try not to meltdown before post 100 and you get a cookie.

CONSIDER TURNING IT DOWN A NOTCH!

Welcome to the board.

GusFrerotte 01-04-2011 07:38 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;774932]Do you mean John Moffitt because he's currently graded out as a 5th round pick? My guess is you're talking about their tackle prospect Gabe Carimi.[/quote]


Moffitt is who I am talking about. 5th rounder? I thought he was an All American!

Slingin Sammy 33 01-04-2011 07:55 PM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=juskins;775200]I looked at all of the highlights of Luck on You Tube and I just don't see what all the fanfare is for him. He throws, mostly, a Billy Kilmer ball that wobbles. I noticed that some of his deep balls have too much air under them. He has a strong arm and appears to be mobile. Does this make him the best? Does Stanford play top caliper teams?

But saying he is the best QB to come out of college in last 25 years is a stretch. Bradford is much better at what he was billed to be by the experts.[/quote]Stanford plays in the PAC-10, not SEC, but certainly some top "caliper" teams. Luck is the real deal and virtually all NFL analysts agree. He lit up a top college D last night for 4 TDs. Also, the last thing this guy throws is a Kilmer-ball.

IrMitchell 01-04-2011 08:10 PM

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Ryan Mallett show tonight!

It should be nice to see how he plays against a team like OhioSt

BaltimoreSkins 01-04-2011 09:50 PM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;775001]The Panthers have many needs like we do.
But unlike us they have a Jimmy Clausen.
Since they have so many holes to fill I'd not be surprised if they draft defense #1 and go with Clausen.[/quote]

I just read that if Luck enters draft Carolina will take him. Maybe a smoke screen to try to get draft picks from somebody who really wants a QB?

IrMitchell 01-04-2011 10:13 PM

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;775236]I just read that if Luck enters draft Carolina will take him. [B]Maybe a smoke screen to try to get draft picks from somebody who really wants a QB?[/B][/quote]
That's the theory every year.

Carolina will pick Luck

44Deezel 01-04-2011 10:17 PM

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[quote=SouperMeister;774951]I would be completely in favor of trading our 10th overall for something in the 17-22 range, plus an extra 2nd round pick. I've always admired the way New England trades down, stockpiles picks, and builds quality depth through the draft.[/quote]

I particularly like the way they avoid giving away multiple draft picks for washed-up has-beens and big fat malcontents. We should try that one of these years.

I believe the Pats and Eagles have the most picks next year. Talk about the rich getting richer.

Trade McNabb, Trade Haynesworth, Trade Cooley, Trade down and then call Ozzie Newsome and ask him who to draft with our picks.

SirClintonPortis 01-04-2011 10:19 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775193]Damn who pissed u off? lol[/quote]
[code]
God complex.

Logic or evidence need not matter.

Emotional satisfaction does.

Flames suffice in place of logic and/or evidence.
[/code]

In short, Troll.
After all, rational minds check the evidence rather than stay ignorant. Anyway, I'm done with this troll.

rbanerjee23 01-05-2011 12:54 AM

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People are starting to get a little testy in this thread ... I don't think I've seen anyone insult/question the wise and powerful SmootSmack lol

tdSKINS1 01-05-2011 12:57 AM

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[quote=Angry;774977]I know that I am sounding like a homer but drafting for BPA in the early rounds and picking up Taylor late could make this team very dangerous beyond 2012.

Tyrod Taylor will have a better career than Vick.[/quote]

I'm the biggest VT fan you will meet but Tyrod will not have a better career then Vick. Unless your referring to Marcus Vick. Hahah I love Tyrod thats my boy but not Vick no sir.

tdSKINS1 01-05-2011 01:01 AM

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;775218]Stanford plays in the PAC-10, not SEC, but certainly some top "caliper" teams. Luck is the real deal and virtually all NFL analysts agree. He lit up a top college D last night for 4 TDs. Also, the last thing this guy throws is a Kilmer-ball.[/quote]

As a VT fan again we unfortunately were not a top college defense like we usually are. Yes we got turnovers but our run defense and yards given up this season were awful. A very young, injured and immature defense this year for sure. But I agree Luck is the real deal but him lighting up my Hokies doesn't overly impress me.

Alvin Walton 01-05-2011 07:23 AM

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Mallet was 24/47 for 277 yards, TDs and one very costly choke pick near the end of the game.
That didn't help his draft status.

SmootSmack 01-05-2011 08:01 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=rbanerjee23;775265]People are starting to get a little testy in this thread ... I don't think I've seen anyone insult/question the wise and powerful SmootSmack lol[/quote]

Plenty of people have. SBF, Kidwell, Offiss, Daseal...only Daseal has the pictures though

JoeRedskin 01-05-2011 08:59 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;775284]Plenty of people have. SBF, Kidwell, Offiss, Daseal...only Daseal has the pictures though[/quote]

Are we forgetting the whole "nemesis" episode?? [Waiting patiently for parrot avatar ... ]

SmootSmack 01-05-2011 09:02 AM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;775308]Are we forgetting the whole "nemesis" episode?? [Waiting patiently for parrot avatar ... ][/quote]

I forgot about you...you're easily forgettable it seems

JoeRedskin 01-05-2011 09:09 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;775309]I forgot about you...[B]you're easily forgettable it seems[/B][/quote]

Well excuse me, Mr. 32,000+ posts. Just b/c your a supercalifragilisticexpialadocious moderater, doesn't mean it wasn't special to me <sniff, sniff> [turns and walks away kicking dirt]

Ruhskins 01-05-2011 09:14 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;775281]Mallet was 24/47 for 277 yards, TDs and one very costly choke pick near the end of the game.
That didn't help his draft status.[/quote]

Well he seemed to have had the Redskins experience during that game. He had no time to throw the ball, there was no running game, and his receivers kept dropping easy passes.

SmootSmack 01-05-2011 09:23 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;775310]Well excuse me, Mr. 32,000+ posts. Just b/c your a supercalifragilisticexpialadocious moderater, doesn't mean it wasn't special to me <sniff, sniff> [turns and walks away kicking dirt][/quote]

Um diddle diddle diddle um diddle ay

Where is juskins today?

Slingin Sammy 33 01-05-2011 09:30 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;775315]Um diddle diddle diddle um diddle ay

Where is juskins today?[/quote]Trolling elsewhere of course. LOL.

SCRedskinsFan 01-05-2011 10:39 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;775310]Well excuse me, Mr. 32,000+ posts. Just b/c your a supercalifragilisticexpialadocious moderater, doesn't mean it wasn't special to me <sniff, sniff> [turns and walks away kicking dirt][/quote]
It's a special gift to spell supercalifragilisticexpialadocious correctly, and immediately follow up with moderater (sic). :)

MTK 01-05-2011 10:44 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;775315]Um diddle diddle diddle um diddle ay

Where is juskins today?[/quote]

anywhere but here

SmootSmack 01-05-2011 10:45 AM

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[quote=scredskinsfan;775334]it's a special gift to spell supercalifragilisticexpialadocious correctly, and immediately follow up with moderater (sic). :)[/quote]

lol!

CRedskinsRule 01-05-2011 10:46 AM

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Everyone here knows JoeRedskin has a "special gift". It's just not polite to talk about it on the public forums.

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-05-2011 10:48 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;775315]Um diddle diddle diddle um diddle ay

Where is juskins today?[/quote]

With Pocket Straight

mooby 01-05-2011 10:51 AM

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[quote=juskins;775111]So, we are not talking about an unbiased machine but a biased journalist. LOLs, I am LMAO. Get real![/quote]

Man, this kid makes me LOLS like I've never LOLZD before.

"You use the 'Twitter?' HA! Clearly you are a biased journalist."

skinster 01-05-2011 10:52 AM

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What I want more than anything in this draft is a QB It seems more and more like the qbs are all going to slip. I wouldnt mind going for the best available player with the 10, then trade back into the mid 20's and snag Locker or Mallett. It's risky but I'd pull the trigger. Hopefully this year's 2nd/6th and next years 3rd can do it.

mooby 01-05-2011 11:03 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=skinster;775344]What I want more than anything in this draft is a QB It seems more and more like the qbs are all going to slip. I wouldnt mind going for the best available player with the 10, then trade back into the mid 20's and snag Locker or Mallett. It's risky but I'd pull the trigger. [B]Hopefully this year's 2nd/6th and next years 3rd can do it[/B].[/quote]

To trade back into the first round this year with our 2nd round pick would require our first next year as well. I don't think anybody has ever traded back into the first round without either giving up multiple 2nd round picks or their first for next season.

mooby 01-05-2011 11:15 AM

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According to [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5991207"]this[/URL] article Marvin Lewis and Carson Palmer will both be back for the Bengals next season. Only reason I'm posting that in here is because I feel the Bengals are taking themselves out of the discussion of drafting a qb this year, which is a good thing for us. Palmer didn't have a great year, esp. with throwing 20 picks, but I think once Ocho Cinco and Owens weren't playing he became a lot better, and I'd guess it's because he didn't have to worry about getting them their touches.

BleedBurgundy 01-05-2011 11:24 AM

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[quote=mooby;775349]According to [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5991207"]this[/URL] article Marvin Lewis and Carson Palmer will both be back for the Bengals next season. Only reason I'm posting that in here is because I feel the Bengals are taking themselves out of the discussion of drafting a qb this year, which is a good thing for us. Palmer didn't have a great year, esp. with throwing 20 picks, but I think once Ocho Cinco and Owens weren't playing he became a lot better, and I'd guess it's because he didn't have to worry about getting them their touches.[/quote]

I'd say it was a little too small of a sample size to draw that conclusion... but if that is correct, then it says a lot about his leadership skills. He needs to be in charge of that team and if that means he has to jump down #85's throat, then so be it.

mooby 01-05-2011 11:29 AM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;775350]I'd say it was a little too small of a sample size to draw that conclusion... but if that is correct, then it says a lot about his leadership skills. He needs to be in charge of that team and if that means he has to jump down #85's throat, then so be it.[/quote]

It also helped that their no name wideouts like Simpson stepped up bigtime against the Chargers and Ravens (despite losing that game). And maybe you're right, it does say a lot about his leadership skills, but since Lewis is going to be back and they need a lot of help in other areas of the roster, I think it's safe to take them out of the qb discussion. They were iffy on getting a new qb to begin with, but it looks like Lewis is content having Palmer around next season.

Lotus 01-05-2011 11:43 AM

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Given our DL troubles, does anyone think that we could get DE Nick Fairley from Auburn, or will he be gone by #10?

SmootSmack 01-05-2011 11:45 AM

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Gone by 10 I'm sure...I think

Chico23231 01-05-2011 11:49 AM

Re: Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?
 
[quote=Lotus;775357]Given our DL troubles, does anyone think that we could get DE Nick Fairley from Auburn, or will he be gone by #10?[/quote]

I thought he played DT in a 4-3 at Auburn? I would prefer a true DE


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