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[quote=Dirtbag59;806805]You're talking about a situation designed to make the top 1% of athletes happy. Again you start paying athletes and suddenly other sports that provide kids with scholarships and educations get cut. Swimming, softball, soccer, tennis. Schools would directly be attempting to buy championships

Many schools would be forced to cut a lot of these sports that fail to generate revenue so they could pay their football and male basketball players. In fact many football programs across the country would be dropped all together seeing as how only 57% generate revenue. Tuition is already high enough, why should everyone else pay for these kids to drive around in cars and paint their bodies with tatoos when they're already getting paid to get an education?[/quote]

I am not saying pay them millions of dollars, I am saying let them make their own money. If someone wants to give them a few 100 dollars for their autograph then so be it.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;806814]I am not saying pay them millions of dollars, I am saying let them make their own money. If someone wants to give them a few 100 dollars for their autograph then so be it.[/quote]

Maybe you have a point. Though I am not about to admit I'm wrong on the internet, I'll give you a "might be wrong."

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[quote=Dirtbag59;806816]Maybe you have a point. Though I am not about to admit I'm wrong on the internet, I'll give you a "might be wrong."[/quote]

Good enough for me

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[quote=skinsfan69;805128]wouldn't touch this guy. he's simply not an accurate enough passer for the pro game. imo that's something you're born with. to his credit he's gotten better but stlll not good enough. i really wouldn't judge the guy on the off the field stuff. these guys are 18-21 year olds and people forget that. these guys are going to make mistakes.[/quote]

Yeah that worked out real well for Vince Young didn't it? I can see it now, Pryor ripping off his burgundy and gold jersey and shoulder pads and throwing them into the stands as he runs off the field crying like a little pre-madonna BIA!!!!

Vinny doesn't run this show anymore boys and girls. We draft through the draft with good, solid picks. Not supplemental namby-pamby showboaters who can finish college because they derailed a powerhouse football program and broke it into shambles. This topic is a done. Time this tread was locked. Anytime now Mods. lol

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don't lock it yet!

I know this dude has baggage, but I was impressed w/his apology, particularly his words about his coach. He seemed sincere, that's a good start. He may have just needed a humbling experience like this. His game needs a lot of work, but that can be fixed. I'm back to thinking he's worth a 4th.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/6847971/sources-dallas-cowboys-plan-attend-terrelle-pryor-pro-day]Sources -- Dallas Cowboys plan to attend Terrelle Pryor pro day - ESPN Dallas[/url]

guess who else is showing up?

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Jeremy Jarmon2.....no thanks.

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Kiper is right. If a team does take a shot at him it is at the Wr position. Sorry guys, I am a Big Ten guy and the kid is talented, but in Columbus many if not most of the folks you blogged or talked to thought he really progressed as expected. His decision making never really got much better from his freshman year. He still forced the ball at critical junctures in key games. On top of that is indeed his character. He is an all about me type of guy. Why would you hock special awards and momentos for lousy tattoos.

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Ya I'd throw a real late pic and then use him as a gadget WR he has freakish athletic ability don't think he will ever be an NFL qb

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.........no
....see Gus Frerotte #128...^^^^^^

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[quote=GusFrerotte;821710]Kiper is right. If a team does take a shot at him it is at the Wr position. Sorry guys, I am a Big Ten guy and the kid is talented, but in Columbus many if not most of the folks you blogged or talked to thought he really progressed as expected. His decision making never really got much better from his freshman year. He still forced the ball at critical junctures in key games. On top of that is indeed his character. He is an all about me type of guy. Why would you hock special awards and momentos for lousy tattoos.[/quote]

One of the rare times me and Gus Frerotte will agree on something.

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no, dont waste a pick on a project when we need a starter. character flags too, and beck had better college stats, not that i think he's any good either.

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[quote=That Guy;821774]no, dont waste a pick on a project when we need a starter. character flags too, and beck had better college stats, not that i think he's any good either.[/quote]

[url=http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-redskins/2011/8/9/2354106/terrelle-pryor-nfl-supplemental-draft-redskins]Terrelle Pryor Not Yet Eligible For Supplemental Draft, Redskins Were Planning On Attending Private Workout - SB Nation DC[/url]

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;806814]I am not saying pay them millions of dollars, I am saying let them make their own money. If someone wants to give them a few 100 dollars for their autograph then so be it.[/quote]

It would STILL create a unfair advantage. The rules are set up to make it even across the board as it should be.


Also, a big **** NO on drafting this kid. I don't care if we use a 15th rounder in the 2035 draft.

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AdamSchefter Adam Schefter

Only two players eligible for supplemental draft so far are Georgia RB Caleb King and N. Illinois DB Tracy Wilson. No word yet on T. Pryor.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;821710]Kiper is right. If a team does take a shot at him it is at the Wr position. Sorry guys, I am a Big Ten guy and the kid is talented, but in Columbus many if not most of the folks you blogged or talked to thought he really progressed as expected. His decision making never really got much better from his freshman year. He still forced the ball at critical junctures in key games. On top of that is indeed his character. He is an all about me type of guy. Why would you hock special awards and momentos for lousy tattoos.[/quote]

The guy is a QB, not a WR. He did some really stupid things but didn't you when you were his age? I'm not sure if he's NFL material or not, he did improve last year. I'd take a shot at him if it only costed a late round pick.

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I'd waste a pick on him with one of our late rounders that we have more than one of. Do we have 2 5th, 6th, or 7th rounders for next years draft?

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Heard on the radio yesterday (Gottlieb) that Pryor is INELIGIBLE because to be eligible foe the supp draft, the player has to be in some form of hardship that is NOT self-induced.

Pryor brought everything on himself = ineligible.

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[quote=Monkeydad;821875]Heard on the radio yesterday (Gottlieb) that Pryor is INELIGIBLE because to be eligible foe the supp draft, the player has to be in some form of hardship that is NOT self-induced.

Pryor brought everything on himself = ineligible.[/quote]

PLEASE, your really beleive Ohio State didn't know what was going on, I got a bridge to sell you. There both to blame equally. IMO.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;821891]PLEASE, your really beleive Ohio State didn't know what was going on, I got a bridge to sell you. There both to blame equally. IMO.[/quote]

The head coach knew and decided to turn and look the other way. I agree, both are to blame. Pryor should've tried to latch on with the CFL if he had the chance. Not playing any football this year is really going to hurt him. I'd say the UFL but they might not even have a season.

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Pryor only needs a statement from Ohio State or the NCAA stating that he is ineligible. It's a forgone conclusion that Ohio State's AD will be more than happy to sign. Sorry fellas he'll be in the supplemental.

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I don't understand how the NFL would prevent any team to acquire him as a UDFA. I mean are there rules about how players can join a team after they leave school? He's obviously going to be ineligible to return to NCAA football.

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[quote=BuckSkin;821941]Pryor only needs a statement from Ohio State or the NCAA stating that he is ineligible. It's a forgone conclusion that Ohio State's AD will be more than happy to sign. Sorry fellas he'll be in the supplemental.[/quote]

good. perhaps we'll take a shot at him.

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[quote=Ruhskins;821950]I don't understand how the NFL would prevent any team to acquire him as a UDFA. I mean are there rules about how players can join a team after they leave school? He's obviously going to be ineligible to return to NCAA football.[/quote]

i've always wondered that myself, anyone have any insight?

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[quote=mlmdub130;821989]i've always wondered that myself, anyone have any insight?[/quote]

My guess is you have to make yourself eligable with the NFL by a particular time prior to the season. After that, no team would be allowed to bring you in. Otherwise, you'd have kids bypassing the draft or declaring late just to go to the teams they wanted to. They probably make exceptions in certain cases, which is why we have the suplemental draft in the summer. If the NFL has him as ineligable, no team is going to be allowed to pick him up.


[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6850418/terrelle-pryor-postpones-pro-day-workout-source-says]Terrelle Pryor postpones pro day workout, source says - ESPN[/url]


[quote]Terrelle Pryor's pro day workout, which had been scheduled for Friday, has been postponed [B]until the NFL decides on his status for the supplemental draft[/B],[/quote]

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good, thank you nfl.

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[quote=skinsfan69;821821]The guy is a QB, not a WR. He did some really stupid things but didn't you when you were his age? I'm not sure if he's NFL material or not, he did improve last year. I'd take a shot at him if it only costed a late round pick.[/quote]


The guy is not that accurate, plus he has a nasty tendency to force the ball at important moments in a game. It is more the Kiper that is saying he isn't a QB in the NFL. He is quick, but he lacks the decision making that would make him worth giving up a pick for.

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[quote=Ruhskins;821950]I don't understand how the NFL would prevent any team to acquire him as a UDFA. I mean are there rules about how players can join a team after they leave school? He's obviously going to be ineligible to return to NCAA football.[/quote]

Maybe he can be taken by a team as an UDFA (if hes not eligible for supp draft). Im not sure either.

I think he wants to be eligible for supp draft so he can be drafted, probably makes it more likely he would get a better contract from a team than if they just signed him as an UDFA.

Either way, i hope we dont have anything to do with him. I wouldnt even offer a 7th rounder. Not worth the potential trouble and headache imo.

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[quote=over the mountain;822161]Maybe he can be taken by a team as an UDFA (if hes not eligible for supp draft). Im not sure either.

I think he wants to be eligible for supp draft so he can be drafted, probably makes it more likely he would get a better contract from a team than if they just signed him as an UDFA. [/quote]

No. He won't be able to be a UDFA if he's not ruled eligible. Teams have to be able to have a chance to draft players on the list to make things even. It's up to the NFL to decide that list of players eligible to be drafted. (all else hit the road)

He wants to be eligible for the supplemental draft so he can play in the NFL this year.

That said, not sure why they wouldn't rule him eligible because Jeremy Jarmon was ruled ineligible due to a failed drug test. Not sure if I see a difference in that and selling gear for cash.

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I'd use a 3rd round pick on him. If he doesn't pan-out as a QB, he's talented enough to be useful in a "wildcat" package and could even see a few plays a game in the backfield/slot.

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[quote=Redskins_2231;823337]I'd use a 3rd round pick on him. If he doesn't pan-out as a QB, he's talented enough to be useful in a "wildcat" package and could even see a few plays a game in the backfield/slot.[/quote]

Vinny is definitely posting from that account. LoL

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[quote=NC_Skins;822167]No. He won't be able to be a UDFA if he's not ruled eligible. Teams have to be able to have a chance to draft players on the list to make things even. It's up to the NFL to decide that list of players eligible to be drafted. (all else hit the road)

He wants to be eligible for the supplemental draft so he can play in the NFL this year.

That said, not sure why they wouldn't rule him eligible because Jeremy Jarmon was ruled ineligible due to a failed drug test. Not sure if I see a difference in that and selling gear for cash.[/quote]

Pryor wasn't ruled ineligible, he left on his own accord. That is the debate.

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Taking chances with our draft picks for "bargain players" who have questionable ethic is just as bad as using our draft picks to obtain pro bowlers who we think can get us to a super bowl in one season. Lets use that extra 4th for a reputable contributer and let the Dolphins worry about things such as the wildcat formation, and which 4th string QB they are starting this week.

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He was just declared eligible. But he'll serve a 5 game suspension. Draft is on Monday

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[quote=SmootSmack;824355]He was just declared eligible. But he'll serve a 5 game suspension. Draft is on Monday[/quote]

I think dude is gonna go cheap. I really dont see him as a terrible QB prospect, he needs to sit and learn and could be a decent fit in the Shanny/Kyle scheme.

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Yeah hes gonna go real cheap. Its not just a 5 game suspension, the dude cant even practice for the first 5 weeks of the regular season. I wonder if that means he would still eat up a roster spot?

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As much as I don't really want Pryor, I could see him coming here and having our QB's be Beck, Grossman, and Pryor. You have to sit out 8 of your 53 guys anyways, he can be one to sit for 5 weeks, and he's fast, so he can bootleg very well in our offense, and at the least he can do with us what he did for Ohio state his freshman year and just do QB runs/some redzone WR.

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Do not want him. He does not fit in the Mike/Kyle Shanahan offensive system and we have seen what happens when a QB is a mismatch with the system...

Let him go somewhere else where his abilities might fit better.

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[quote=mlmpetert;824385]Yeah hes gonna go real cheap. Its not just a 5 game suspension, the dude cant even practice for the first 5 weeks of the regular season. I wonder if that means he would still eat up a roster spot?[/quote]

I don't think he would...but I'm not sure how I feel about the NFL suspending him. I'm not sure that's fair

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Hell no! Not even for a 7th round pick...