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[quote=SmootSmack;811727][url=http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog/roto_arcade/post/Peyton-Manning-to-miss-start-of-camp-whenever-i?urn=fantasy-wp5110]Peyton Manning to miss start of camp, whenever it starts - Roto Arcade - Fantasy*Blog - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

As for Kris Jenkins, I certainly didn't see that coming. Not sure what it means for us now. But it probably gives Maake another life. Which is disconcerting to me, because I thought he was pretty terrible last year and he even recently admitted he's not ready to play right now.[/quote]

So our plan was Kris Jenkins or stick with Maake? jesus thats just efffing horrible.

I hope we make a serious run at a NT in free agency, there were numerous options at that position in the draft and we chose not to pursue.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;811725]I'd be upset because all the chaos we have in DC it would just be a sad end to an awesome career. We need to get our stuff together without stealing everone elses stars.[/quote]

But we are getting better. We get some FA o-linemen and you still think that would be the end of Peyton's career if we signed him? I think that would be epic! You aren't going to tell me it wouldn't make this team a hell of a lot better.

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[quote=SkinzWin;811732]But we are getting better. We get some FA o-linemen and you still think that would be the end of Peyton's career if we signed him? I think that would be epic! You aren't going to tell me it wouldn't make this team a hell of a lot better.[/quote]

Yes and no... Would Shanny be able to let Payton play his style of game? I think not. How would it be any different than McNabb?

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[quote=SkinzWin;811732]But we are getting better. We get some FA o-linemen and you still think that would be the end of Peyton's career if we signed him? I think that would be epic! You aren't going to tell me it wouldn't make this team a hell of a lot better.[/quote]

Peyton Manning will never go to a team that is "getting better".
We are still a 6-10 team until we prove otherwise.
He will only go to a SB contender.
But keep on dreaming.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;811735]Yes and no... Would Shanny be able to let Payton play his style of game? I think not. How would it be any different than McNabb?[/quote]

Because he is Peyton Freaking Manning. I think Manning is a bit higher on the QB echelon scale than McNabb. If Shanny is serious about winning and signing him was a viable option, why wouldn't he adapt to an elite player's style.

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I agree he is higher on the Qb echelon but, your assuming many people in the Redskins organization to check their ego's at the door. These are people who historically haven't been able to do this. Shanny didn't do it for Elway or Young why would he for Payton?

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Take Manning off the Colts and they probably are a 6-10 team. I have no doubt he could go just about anywhere and take a team to the playoffs, as long as he brings the same offense he's been running with him.

In the end he's not going anywhere folks, no need to even discuss it really.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;811741]I agree he is higher on the Qb echelon but, your assuming many people in the Redskins organization to check their ego's at the door. These are people who historically haven't been able to do this. Shanny didn't do it for Elway or Young why would he for Payton?[/quote]

I'm not suggesting they will. I am simply saying if they were smart and wanted to put winning as the most paramount thing for this organization and we even had a remote shot to sign him, I would do it in a heart beat. I realize I am not them. But I tire of being on the down hill side of things. Wishful thoughts. That is all.

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[quote=Mattyk;811743]Take Manning off the Colts and they probably are a 6-10 team. I have no doubt he could go just about anywhere and take a team to the playoffs, as long as he brings the same offense he's been running with him.

In the end he's not going anywhere folks, no need to even discuss it really.[/quote]

Okay. I will stop talking about it. But when it happens, just like McNabb was out of the blue last year, just remember where you heard it from first... This guy!!

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And when it doesn't happen, remember who told you.

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it's cool bro. I'm all about wishfull thinking! I hope that they get a quality rookie to bread in the shanny system.

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Manning will never play anywhere else

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[quote=skinsfaninok;811753]Manning will never play anywhere else[/quote]

I'd never say never. Look at favre. Of course this year or anytime soon he won't play elsewhere, but the colts have to draft a successor eventually, and if/when that successor is ready, manning might not be ready to give up football. Its POSSIBLE that Brady might be shown the door in a few years if Mallett develops well.

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[quote=SmootSmack;811727][url=http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog/roto_arcade/post/Peyton-Manning-to-miss-start-of-camp-whenever-i?urn=fantasy-wp5110]Peyton Manning to miss start of camp, whenever it starts - Roto Arcade - Fantasy*Blog - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

As for Kris Jenkins, I certainly didn't see that coming. Not sure what it means for us now. But it probably gives Maake another life. Which is disconcerting to me, because I thought he was pretty terrible last year and he even recently admitted he's not ready to play right now.[/quote]


I'm not doubting what your saying but I found this

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/203176/kemoeatus-repaired-shoulder-feels-great]Kemoeatu's repaired shoulder 'feels great' - Rotoworld.com[/url]

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;811762]I'm not doubting what your saying but I found this

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/203176/kemoeatus-repaired-shoulder-feels-great]Kemoeatu's repaired shoulder 'feels great' - Rotoworld.com[/url][/quote]

What I'm referring to is from like a month ago. I think he may have been joking around, but who knows.

We'll see what happens. I think he's borderline for a roster spot

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Most of the good 3-4 teams do NT by committee they carry atleast 3 NT's. Neild, Joe Joseph & Ian Williams I know they are all young but their full of energy.

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[quote=Chico23231;811731]

I hope we make a serious run at a NT in free agency, there were numerous options at that position in the draft and we chose not to pursue.[/quote]none of which were attractive

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More Skins bashing:

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/07/20/redskins-free-agency-mistakes/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_wr_a1]Redskins seem poised to spend big again in NFL free agency - Don Banks - SI.com[/url]

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[quote=mredskins;811826]More Skins bashing:

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/07/20/redskins-free-agency-mistakes/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_wr_a1]Redskins seem poised to spend big again in NFL free agency - Don Banks - SI.com[/url][/quote]

For once I'd like to see one of these writers to give us an example of lavish free agency spending under BA and MS. I mean as much as I hated the McNabb trade, I don't think that compares to the crazy FA spending under Vinny, who would have given both Willie Parker and LJ long term contracts. Also, if the Redskins spend money on a young guard like Yanda, I wouldn't mind.

Is it just me or is a lot of Football writing becoming very b*tchy nowadays? Maybe is the effect of the lockout

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He does at least acknowledge in the past it was a case of signing the wrong guys, and guys like Asomugha, Holmes, Jenkins, Cofield and Yanda aren't high risk players. And he does give the draft some credit too. But yeah overall I agree with there's a bitchy tone. Seems like a lot of writers go that route these days. I guess that's what sells.

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^ The article is not that bad. I think the past/truth is a little hard to swallow for some.
The fact is Snyder/Ceratto did make those bad decisions and the Haynesworth/Mcnabb mistakes were not to long ago. They are still on the team.
Non-Redskins football fans and the press don't give full credit to the fact Allen/Shanahan now run this team. Not Ceratto/Snyder. Some see 6-10 from last year and Snyder and think not much has changed. Things have changed, but it will take winning on the field to prove to them.
Winning cures everything, especially in this case.

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Would you guys want Amobi Okoye?

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^^Great article, for real.

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[quote=SmootSmack;811845]Would you guys want Amobi Okoye?[/quote]

Four year starter.
3 sacks last year.
Looks fairly decent.....

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[quote=SmootSmack;811845]Would you guys want Amobi Okoye?[/quote]

He was the one whose stock dropped coming out of college with reports of him having stress fractures in his lower legs. Has he proved to be healthy? Does he fit into the scheme? If so, why not?

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[quote=SmootSmack;811845]Would you guys want Amobi Okoye?[/quote]

vet min? guy has been a huge bust, id take him over an oft injured Kemo.

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[quote=SmootSmack;811845]Would you guys want Amobi Okoye?[/quote]

Not for a high price tag. Otherwise, why not.

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[quote=SmootSmack;811845]Would you guys want Amobi Okoye?[/quote]


I remember a lot folks wanting him here before that draft.

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I see some reports he is a DE and some say he is a DT which is it?

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Was a DT in the 4-3, would be a DE in the 3-4.

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[quote=mredskins;811826]More Skins bashing:

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/07/20/redskins-free-agency-mistakes/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_wr_a1]Redskins seem poised to spend big again in NFL free agency - Don Banks - SI.com[/url][/quote]

I have no problem with this article. I don't regularly follow other NFL teams and their personnel moves but I have a certain impressions of some teams based on what they have done in the past. My impressions of those teams may or may not be valid at this time.

It seems to still be the general impression of the Skins that they will chase after the big names in Free Agency whether of not they are a good fit for the team. After all, Dan Snyder is still the owner, so why wouldn't they? Don Banks is simply expressing a commonly held view of how the Skins operate, although the way they operate may have changed. Nevertheless, even he acknowledged that the Skins handled the draft differently last time.

I don't think that the current Skins management will be viewed any differently by the general public (including national writers) than they were in the Ceratto era until it becomes so evident that a blind man could see it. That's just the way people are - we cling to our long-held impressions of others.

Personally, I don't care what Don Banks thinks or writes about the Redskins. On the other hand, I'm not sold on the Shanahan/Allen era yet, either.

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I think the best option for NT after Franklin would be Branch from AZ. I am not sure if he's restricted or not, but he'd be a good additon to our NT rotation (Bryant and Nields).

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I completely forgot about Branch, how did he fare in Arizona? I remember he fell down to 2nd round after the big hype, and if I recall right, the big knock on him was his laziness. I am sure he has the size to be NT, but if Arizona decide to let him go because of his laziness then I definitely do not want him.

As for those media claiming that Redskins will be big spender in FA; all I can say is, speculation is media's best friend. The idea of Redskins being big spender exploded right after JLC posted his article. And we all know how credible JLC is when it comes to Redskins.

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[quote=mredskins;811855]I remember a lot folks wanting him here before that draft.[/quote]

I was one of them.

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[quote=GridIron26;811868]I completely forgot about Branch, how did he fare in Arizona? I remember he fell down to 2nd round after the big hype, and if I recall right, the big knock on him was his laziness. I am sure he has the size to be NT, but if Arizona decide to let him go because of his laziness then I definitely do not want him.

As for those media claiming that Redskins will be big spender in FA; all I can say is, speculation is media's best friend. The idea of Redskins being big spender exploded right after JLC posted his article. And we all know how credible JLC is when it comes to Redskins.[/quote]Branch is an Anthony Bryant style player, though just 26. Basically, has the ability to two gap as a nose in the NFL, but the position coach needs to ride him hard to get adequate performance. Work effort concerns that caused him to drop to round two in the draft still evidence, according to Arizona reports.

I am in support of investing in more of the kind of player that Anthony Bryant is, and hoping that one of the two takes advantage of the opportunity in front of them to become the player we need. After all, we don't need both to pan out, only one, and we save a lot of money, and get improved performance over the average free agent.

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[quote=GridIron26;811868]I completely forgot about Branch, how did he fare in Arizona? I remember he fell down to 2nd round after the big hype, and if I recall right, the big knock on him was his laziness. I am sure he has the size to be NT, but if Arizona decide to let him go because of his laziness then I definitely do not want him.

As for those media claiming that Redskins will be big spender in FA; all I can say is, speculation is media's best friend. The idea of Redskins being big spender exploded right after JLC posted his article. And we all know how credible JLC is when it comes to Redskins.[/quote]

Here is a nice article about Branch:

[url=http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2011/2/14/1992594/stay-or-go-arizona-cardinals-defensive-tackle-alan-branch]Stay Or Go: Arizona Cardinals Defensive Tackle Alan Branch - Revenge of the Birds[/url]

It seems that he was having some work ethic issues in his first two years, but seems to have improved in the last two. I am surprised that his name is hasn't been mentioned, since he is one of the true NTs out there (with the experience). Some of the other names mentioned such as Cofield and Okoye, would probably fare better as 3-4 DEs. I think Branch would be a good pick up and it would give us a nice young group of NTs.

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[quote=SmootSmack;811063]Just about every reliable source I have talked to says Moss is coming back[/quote]

I am for bringing Moss back, but why is Santonio Holmes being mentioned?? They seem to me to be the same type of receiver in this offense. I would think Hankerson and Kelly are the guys to watch early in camp. Also having Armstrong who has a year in the offense. I really dont see how we or why would bring in another reciever. Unless its a sydny rice. We need to invest the money on the oline, as we have seen, if the QB can't throw it, no one is going to catch it

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Holmes is probably the backup plan, but I've heard the Jets don't intend on letting him get away.

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I'm not too big on Holmes, solid player but not a dominant WR. I'd take him but not for big time $

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The best of the rest.....National Football Report: List of best UDFA's for 2011.

[url=http://thenationalfootballreport.com/2011/04/30/list-of-best-udfas-for-2011-nfl-draft/]2011 NFL draft undrafted free agents,udfa's | National Football Report[/url]