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[url=http://www.click2houston.com/news/judge-admits-texting-assistant-district-attorney-during-trial/-/1735978/20843250/-/urq4sqz/-/index.html]Former prosecutor admits wrongdoing during trial | News - Home[/url]


It's not just the politicians either. Both of these people should be disbarred for life from practicing law.

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So much government fail in one single Yahoo article, [url=http://news.yahoo.com/us-suspect-possibly-targeted-drone-attack-091333349--politics.html]Yahoo![/url]
[QUOTE]WASHINGTON (AP) — An American citizen who is a member of al-Qaida is actively planning attacks against Americans overseas, U.S. officials say, and the Obama administration is wrestling with whether to kill him with a drone strike and how to do so legally under its new stricter targeting policy issued last year.

The CIA drones watching him cannot strike because he's a U.S. citizen and[B] the Justice Department must build a case against him, a task it hasn't completed.[/B] [I][COLOR="Blue"][so why is the administration wrestling at all, they don't even have a complete case][/COLOR][/I]

Four U.S. officials said [B]the American suspected terrorist is in a country that refuses U.S. military action on its soil[/B][I][COLOR="Blue"][so drone strikes into a country who denies military action(and we are not at war with) is ok?][/COLOR][/I] and that has proved unable to go after him. And President Barack Obama's new policy says American suspected terrorists overseas can only be killed by the military, not the CIA, creating a policy conundrum for the White House.[COLOR="Blue"][I][italicized comments are mine obviously][/I][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

The article goes on, and I am sure this guy probably means harm to US citizens, but it's a bit outrageous, with all the different ways the government has to get a guilty verdict if it wants one, that they aren't going to at the very least put him on trial in absentia.

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[url=http://www.isidewith.com/]iSideWith.com[/url]

another poll site. I am sure it's been on here before, but here was my results if anyone else wants to post theirs. I certainly wasn't surprised by mine:

Parties you side with...
83%Libertarians
Libertarians
on foreign policy, domestic policy, social, healthcare, and education issues.

75%Green Party
Green Party
on foreign policy, domestic policy, immigration, and science issues.

74%Democrats
Democrats
on domestic policy, foreign policy, immigration, social, and science issues.

63%Republicans
Republicans
on environmental and education issues.

37%Socialist
Socialist
no major issues.

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75% Libertarian: foreign policy, economic, education, health care, domestic policy, social issues;
70% Republican: domestic, economic, environmental, health care, education
57% Democrats: environmental, science
37% Green: foreign policy, environment, science
12% Socialist: foreign policy

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[url=http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-scotus-lapd-search-20140226,0,3720623.story#axzz2uOyAra6Z]Supreme Court ruling expands police authority in home searches - latimes.com[/url]

Fuck this government and our corrupt Supreme Court.

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Republican 67% Economic, Domestic, and Immigration
Green Party 65% Social, Science, Environmental, Foreign and Education
Libertarians 64% Economic, Foreign and Immigration
Democratic 60% Foreign, Science, Envoronmental and Education
Socialist 54% Social, Science, and Foreign

Kinda all over the place.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1060600][url=http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-scotus-lapd-search-20140226,0,3720623.story#axzz2uOyAra6Z]Supreme Court ruling expands police authority in home searches - latimes.com[/url]

Fuck this government and our corrupt Supreme Court.[/quote]

Well, on its face, it's not beyond the pale. Essentially, if the sole occupant of residence says "Yes, you can search" than police have the right to make a warrantless search. All the individual need do is say, "No. You need a warrant" and the police have to leave - so it's not like they are being given [I]carte blanche[/I] to conduct home searches.

With that said ... I disagree with the holding because it essentially allows someone else to waive my constitutional protections. If I say "No. You need a warrant before entering", why should any other resident be able to essentially negate my constitutional protections against warrantless search if I happen to step out to get a pack of smokes.

The potential for abuse is HUGE. Husband and wife at home, police show up with probable cause to arrest husband (someone down the street gets robbed, says guy - matching husband's general description - ran into/behind/around the home). Husband says "You can't search" police arrest him take him away. As they do so, they say to wife "Well, you saw what happened there, we'd like to take a look around - do you mind?". That's just one scenario, folks here can probably think of lots more equally reasonable ones.

Once a resident says "no search", that should remain in effect until rescinded by THAT resident OR a warrant is obtained.

chip, chip, chip .... Hear that sound? It is the protection of the rights of the innocent slowly being removed in order to provide expeditious safety for the cowardly.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1060604]Well, on its face, it's not beyond the pale. Essentially, if the sole occupant of residence says "Yes, you can search" than police have the right to make a warrantless search. All the individual need do is say, "No. You need a warrant" and the police have to leave - so it's not like they are being given [I]carte blanche[/I] to conduct home searches.

With that said ... I disagree with the holding because it essentially allows someone else to waive my constitutional protections. If I say "No. You need a warrant before entering", why should any other resident be able to essentially negate my constitutional protections against warrantless search if I happen to step out to get a pack of smokes.

The potential for abuse is HUGE. Husband and wife at home, police show up with probable cause to arrest husband (someone down the street gets robbed, says guy - matching husband's general description - ran into/behind/around the home). Husband says "You can't search" police arrest him take him away. As they do so, they say to wife "Well, you saw what happened there, we'd like to take a look around - do you mind?". That's just one scenario, folks here can probably think of lots more equally reasonable ones.

Once a resident says "no search", that should remain in effect until rescinded by THAT resident OR a warrant is obtained.

chip, chip, chip .... Hear that sound? It is the protection of the rights of the innocent slowly being removed in order to provide expeditious safety for the cowardly.[/quote]
Wow, I am actually defending the gov't and you are knocking it. I know it's cold but I didn't think it's that cold!

I really don't see this is an unreasonable chipping away of protection (which amazes me to say the least).

Since in this case at least, they left and then came back, it was not like they ignored the statement not to search, but when they came back they re-visited the issue. Suppose they had not arrested the man, he cleaned everything up, and they came back, he certainly could have said go ahead. Since she was a resident there (that is pure assumption), she was acting in that same manner. That she didn't clean things up was stupidity but I don't think it was the police acting in an act of bad faith, or against constitutional protection.

Especially in the case of married couples, which this was not, you have great leeway in terms of what you can do for the other person. Allowing a search of common property would seem to be one of those things.

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[url=http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Mother-arrested-at-school-for-consoling-son-in-local-classroom-251349481.html]St. Louis County mother furious after being arrested for consoling son | KMOV.com St. Louis[/url]

What the fuck is wrong with our country when shit like this happens? How can a person like this be in charge? Why isn't she fired immediately and replaced with somebody with common sense?

If you keep telling yourself how "free" you are, you are in denial.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1065246][url=http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Mother-arrested-at-school-for-consoling-son-in-local-classroom-251349481.html]St. Louis County mother furious after being arrested for consoling son | KMOV.com St. Louis[/url]

What the fuck is wrong with our country when shit like this happens? How can a person like this be in charge? Why isn't she fired immediately and replaced with somebody with common sense?

If you keep telling yourself how "free" you are, you are in denial.[/quote]

That's pretty inept of the principal. I wonder if there was some petty motivations here, reading between the lines of the following sentences:

[quote]She was taken to the police station on trespassing charges but Williams said she is a known parent. In fact, she met with the principal on Wednesday about a separate issue.[/quote]

I agree that the principal ought to be reprimanded, but she won't be because she followed the rules regardless of the common sense that you want her to use.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1065246][url=http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Mother-arrested-at-school-for-consoling-son-in-local-classroom-251349481.html]St. Louis County mother furious after being arrested for consoling son | KMOV.com St. Louis[/url]

What the fuck is wrong with our country when shit like this happens? How can a person like this be in charge? Why isn't she fired immediately and replaced with somebody with common sense?

If you keep telling yourself how "free" you are, you are in denial.[/quote]

Hey ncskins have u loss faith in the Charlotte mayor?

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[quote=Chico23231;1065472]Hey ncskins have u loss faith in the Charlotte mayor?[/quote]


Lost? I never had any....lol

[url=http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/03/29/3743792/former-charlotte-mayor-patrick.html]Former Charlotte Mayor Patrick Cannon’s two worlds | State Politics | NewsObserver.com[/url]

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/26/justice/charlotte-mayor-alleged-corruption/]Charlotte mayor accused of bribery, extortion - CNN.com[/url]



Pat McCrory is our governor and he used to be the Charlotte Mayor. Willing to bet you anything he did the same shit, but was smart enough not to get busted.

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[url=http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/crime/2014/03/28/sunday-preview-du-pont-heir-stayed-prison/7016769/]Judge said du Pont heir 'will not fare well' in prison[/url]



The whole damn system is broken. Judges like this need to be dragged out in the public square and hung.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1066149][url=http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/crime/2014/03/28/sunday-preview-du-pont-heir-stayed-prison/7016769/]Judge said du Pont heir 'will not fare well' in prison[/url]



The whole damn system is broken. Judges like this need to be dragged out in the public square and hung.[/quote]Unbelievable! Affluenza strikes again!

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[quote=NC_Skins;1066149][URL="http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/crime/2014/03/28/sunday-preview-du-pont-heir-stayed-prison/7016769/"]Judge said du Pont heir 'will not fare well' in prison[/URL]



The whole damn system is broken. Judges like this need to be dragged out in the public square and hung.[/quote]


You have a lot of anger inside of you .

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/jon-stewart-reminds-us-politicians-corrupt-always-141542813.html]Jon Stewart Reminds Us: All Politicians Are Corrupt, Always[/url]

I love Jon Stewart.

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/senator-goes-wrong-hearing-blames-moscow-144255965.html?vp=1]Senator goes to wrong hearing, blames Moscow[/url]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Senator Dan Coats had a quick explanation for how he ended up speaking at the wrong hearing - the Russians made him do it.

The Indiana Republican went to what he thought was an appropriations hearing on the defense budget on Wednesday and was posing an appropriate question on that subject when someone handed him a piece of paper.

"I just got a note saying I'm at the wrong hearing," Coats said.

He had thought he was at meeting of the Military Construction, Veterans Affairs and Related Agencies Subcommittee but instead was at a gathering of the Financial Services and General Government Subcommittee


This is pathetic

But it's HARD!

Fire them all!

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[quote=RedskinRat;1067414]But it's HARD!

Fire them all![/quote]



Fire them? Shit man, they are underpaid.


[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rep-jim-moran-members-of-congress-are-underpaid/]Rep. Jim Moran: Members of Congress are underpaid - CBS News[/url]


:cussing:

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[IMG]http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Government/2014/04/12/obama-poster-at-agusta.jpg[/IMG]

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[URL="http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-youre-not-being-told"]Bundy Escapade[/URL]

[I]Claim number one: Senator Harry Reid's son, Rory Reid (try saying that name ten times as fast as you can), is the primary representative for ENN energy group, a Chinese energy company involved in a $5 billion solar project planned for Clark County Nevada, on the on land where the Bundy ranch is located. First source: Reuters: Aug 31, 2012. Well this is interesting. It turns out that the conflicts of interest in this project were well documented, but Harry pushed it through anyway. He pushed it through in spite of the controversy that was stirred up when the land was sold to ENN for $4.5 million dollars even though separate appraisals valued the land at between $29.6 million and $38.6 million.

Claim number two: Reid put one of his former employees in charge of the Bureau of land management and thereby used his leverage in the agency to clear the Bundy's off the land. What do they claim as their source: CBS Las Vegas. Hmmm... That's interesting. Neil Kornze, the current BLM Chief is a former adviser for Harry Reid, and Harry Reid is the Senate Majority leader, and therefore was directly involved in his confirmation. That's another serious conflict of interest there considering that the BLM is claiming jurisdiction over the land where Rory Reid's company wants to build.

But do we have any evidence that Reid actually exercised that influence in the agency to get what he wanted? Well that brings us to claim number three: Supposedly the BLM had posted on their website that they needed to get the Bundy family off of the land to make room for the energy project, but the BLM has since removed the page. The website that made this claim posted a screen shot split into two files and a link to a text version of the page that someone had copied. This is pretty weak. Though it does seem to match the overall narrative here, this would never be admissible in court. But let's dig a little deeper shall we. What if there is a version of the site cached somewhere on the web? [/I]

If this turns out to be true, who will prosecute?

A Benghazi-style cover-up is on its way.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1068395].[/quote]

[URL="http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=2JYDhMlcKTg6dM&tbnid=Ol_KmHORLB6uSM:&ved=0CAgQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fizquotes.com%2Fquote%2F250600&ei=o2JQU4ubHcKKyASEqILQBA&psig=AFQjCNGTrzg8hkeYMTfDgGVW6BRlwJpzlA&ust=1397863459540289"][IMG]http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-the-people-made-the-constitution-and-the-people-can-unmake-it-it-is-the-creature-of-their-own-john-marshall-250600.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

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[quote=RedskinRat;1068395][URL="http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-youre-not-being-told"]Bundy Escapade[/URL]

[I]Claim number one: Senator Harry Reid's son, Rory Reid (try saying that name ten times as fast as you can), is the primary representative for ENN energy group, a Chinese energy company involved in a $5 billion solar project planned for Clark County Nevada, on the on land where the Bundy ranch is located. First source: Reuters: Aug 31, 2012. Well this is interesting. It turns out that the conflicts of interest in this project were well documented, but Harry pushed it through anyway. He pushed it through in spite of the controversy that was stirred up when the land was sold to ENN for $4.5 million dollars even though separate appraisals valued the land at between $29.6 million and $38.6 million.

Claim number two: Reid put one of his former employees in charge of the Bureau of land management and thereby used his leverage in the agency to clear the Bundy's off the land. What do they claim as their source: CBS Las Vegas. Hmmm... That's interesting. Neil Kornze, the current BLM Chief is a former adviser for Harry Reid, and Harry Reid is the Senate Majority leader, and therefore was directly involved in his confirmation. That's another serious conflict of interest there considering that the BLM is claiming jurisdiction over the land where Rory Reid's company wants to build.

But do we have any evidence that Reid actually exercised that influence in the agency to get what he wanted? Well that brings us to claim number three: Supposedly the BLM had posted on their website that they needed to get the Bundy family off of the land to make room for the energy project, but the BLM has since removed the page. The website that made this claim posted a screen shot split into two files and a link to a text version of the page that someone had copied. This is pretty weak. Though it does seem to match the overall narrative here, this would never be admissible in court. But let's dig a little deeper shall we. What if there is a version of the site cached somewhere on the web? [/I]

If this turns out to be true, who will prosecute?

A Benghazi-style cover-up is on its way.[/quote]



You know what's really sad? When even Glenn Beck realizes the government is right in this case....lol Why right wing nutjobs have rallied around a man who's mooching off the government/state of Nevada is mind boggling. These are the same people that point at the welfare people of this nation and blame them for our deficit.



[YT]W1SUt7Y7FSA#t=489[/YT]

Who cares what some marginalized religious zealot says, he's a buffoon. BLM had SpecOps there. WTF is that about?

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[quote=RedskinRat;1068989]Who cares what some marginalized religious zealot says, he's a buffoon. BLM had SpecOps there. WTF is that about?

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Well, it's to point out that a man that's anti-government as much as Beck is isn't even siding with him. That's when you know you're wrong...lol

Why did they have SpecOps? Probably because there are a bunch of armed whack jobs out there thinking they are Patriots. How can these assholes call themselves men when they suggest putting women up front to be shot for all to see? Really? Fuck those clowns. If these guys were Patriots, they'd surround the NSA compound out in Utah and burn it to the ground.



Also, why is that idiot Hannity even responding to a comedy show?....LOL Apparently Hannity is clueless about Jon because dude will rail on anybody that deserves it.

[url]http://www.forwardprogressives.com/sean-hannity-makes-fool-responding-jon-stewart-slamming-defense-cliven-bundy-video/[/url]

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[quote=RedskinRat;1068989]Who cares what some marginalized religious zealot says, he's a buffoon. BLM had SpecOps there. WTF is that about?

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This is not a guy you want to get behind.

[url=http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/cliven-bundy-just-ruined-his-cause-20140424]Cliven Bundy Just Ruined His Cause - NationalJournal.com[/url]


The irony of a guy mooching off the government land (not paying grazing fees) making remarks about how blacks sit in public housing getting government money for nothing. :doh: All those GOPers are packing up and fleeing the scene as fast as they can....lol

Or it's a smear campaign

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[quote=RedskinRat;1069241]Or it's a smear campaign

[/quote]


It's not a smear campaign if the remarks came from him.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1069241]Or it's a smear campaign

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:doh:

Bundy is a f*cking piece of sh*t and needs to pay up. He's a crook and should have to play by the same rules as everybody else.

Its amazing how the GOP comdems welfare reciepients but support this racist.

Funny when the real Bundy came out, fox news has completely dropped the story like it never happened. typical

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don't go carrying two cellphones around!

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bma3LzrCEAE4lyI.png[/IMG]

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It's amazing that five single people can single handed do more harm to this country than all of Congress and Presidents combined. So much for checks and balances. Let's review the bullshit our SCOTUS has given us the past year.


1) Allowing "Christian" prayers before city council meetings. Ruled 5-4.

[url=http://bigstory.ap.org/article/high-court-ruling-favors-prayer-council-meeting]High court ruling favors prayer at council meeting[/url]

2) Declaring that corporations were in fact citizens and money is speech. Ruled 5-4.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission]Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

3) Struck down key parts of the Voting Rights Act. Ruled 5-4.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/06/25/us/annotated-supreme-court-decision-on-voting-rights-act.html?_r=0[/url]



How is it assholes are allowed to sit up in the SC for eternity doing insane damage to our country? Where are the checks and balances of getting these people out? Why is it the same 5 suspects generally ruling against the people. This isn't about law, this is about politics. What's the difference between what these bozos are doing and treason? I'll tell you. Nothing.


How is this asshole Scalia allowed to still continue to rule on the Supreme Court? What the fuck??

[url=http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2014/04/30/supreme-court-corrects-scalias-cringeworthy-error-in-pollution-case/]Supreme Court Corrects Scalia’s ‘Cringeworthy’ Error in Pollution Case - Law Blog - WSJ[/url]


[quote]“Either some law clerk made the mistake and Scalia failed to read his own dissent carefully enough, or he simply forgot the basics of the earlier case and his clerks failed to correct him. Either way, it’s a cringeworthy blunder,” wrote University of California-Berkeley law professor Daniel Farber.[/quote]



Also, look at this shit. Notice the conservative judges shit on most of the rulings involving "liberal" free speech, but not conservative free speech. The liberal judges are about equal in their rulings.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/06/us/politics/in-justices-votes-free-speech-often-means-speech-i-agree-with.html[/url]


Are there people I wish that drop dead? Most certainly and Scalia is at the tops of my list. Fuck this asshole and fuck this messed up system. It's sad that more damage has been done to this country by 5 judges than has been done by any terrorist.


It's ok JR. I still got lots of love and respect for the work you do. There are still honest people with integrity in this world. Keep fighting that good fight.

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I agree, NC_Skins, it's absurd.

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-upholds-legislative-prayer-at-council-meetings/2014/05/05/dc142ede-cf9d-11e3-b812-0c92213941f4_story.html]Supreme Court upholds legislative prayer at council meetings - The Washington Post[/url]


Good , it will do no harm to anyone .

It perpetuates wishful thinking and makes those that are of a different or no faith feel oppressed.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1070321]It perpetuates wishful thinking and makes those that are of a different or no faith feel oppressed.

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I am not going to lie. I have been at teachers conferences sponsored and paid for by the state where prayers have opened meals and sessions and it makes me feel very uneasy.

It should do, it's medieval thinking. Why anyone would think it's acceptable is completely irrational.

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[url=http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/05/22/3440827/mckinley-climate-pentagon-climate-change/]House Votes To Deny Climate Science And Ties Pentagon's Hands On Climate Change | ThinkProgress[/url]

/sighs

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[url=http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/20/technology/security/facebook-dea/index.html]Facebook tells DEA: Stop impersonating users - Oct. 20, 2014[/url]

To me this is criminal

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Another fence jumper. It seems to me to be a bit higher than average. What is interesting to me is the constraint by secret service on these individuals, not a single one has been shot at by ss.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1090438][url=http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/20/technology/security/facebook-dea/index.html]Facebook tells DEA: Stop impersonating users - Oct. 20, 2014[/url]



To me this is criminal[/QUOTE]


Yeah a little disturbing to say the least