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S.J is solid but the Rams are so bad if we lose to them I will go ape shit, plus they got us last year so I feel better this time around. Sam is a stud but has 0 Help

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[quote=SmootSmack;841437]Famous last words? I think SJ is back on Sunday for the Rams[/quote]

He was back this past week but wasn't really a factor since they got blown out.

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I think this team is WAY better than what I expected. The game last night was a tough, hard fought loss. I can't get too upset over anything, other than just the plain loss of an opportunity to be 3-0.
As far as the blitz on 3rd and 21, hey thats what we do. We are the #1 team in the NFL on 3rd down by blitzing and not giving the QB time to survey the field and find an open guy. I am not blaming the call at all. He made a play, Dez made a play and we didn't. We have been making plays all night, hell all year, we just didn't make that one. Again, to me it comes down to a missed field goal. I am really tired of finding ways to lose games by missed field goals, extra points.

Gano fought hard though coming back and nailing the 50 yarder, I give him credit for that. But we have to execute the FG opportunities, especially the short ones, making those 50+ yarders are bonuses.

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[quote=#56fanatic;841462]i think this team is way better than what i expected. The game last night was a tough, hard fought loss. I can't get too upset over anything, other than just the plain loss of an opportunity to be 3-0.
As far as the blitz on 3rd and 21, hey thats what we do. We are the #1 team in the nfl on 3rd down by blitzing and not giving the qb time to survey the field and find an open guy. I am not blaming the call at all. He made a play, dez made a play and we didn't. We have been making plays all night, hell all year, we just didn't make that one. Again, to me it comes down to a missed field goal. I am really tired of finding ways to lose games by missed field goals, extra points.

Gano fought hard though coming back and nailing the 50 yarder, i give him credit for that. But we have to execute the fg opportunities, especially the short ones, making those 50+ yarders are bonuses.[/quote]





this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[quote=redsk1;841379]I hear you, but not too many QB's can out run a DE when the DE has momentum. The loss was ugly. Our team is not complete though. Grossman isn't our long term answer at qb. We should of won. We outplayed them, outcoached them, out executed them and lost. [B]Grossman had a TD and a int. Romo had a Int no Td's and at least one fumble and he won.[/B][/quote]

In four games Grossman has four fumbles (all lost to the other team) and four interceptions. Eight turnovers for four games. If he were a RB and fumbled 4 times in four games, he would be benched.
He is staying true to his reputation as a fumbling turnover machine.

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[quote=SmootSmack;841106]Let's not waste any time here

[B]Rex Grossman[/B] I don't think Beck would be any better but Grossman came out flat and he has to be more aware of the rush and protect the ball.

[B]Kyle Shanahan[/B] I'm a big fan, but his playcalling was extremely suspect today. He completely abandoned the run, especially after Hightower had such a nice drive culminating in a TD. It's one thing to be aggressive, but running actually helps you be aggressive. And why make a substitution with no timeouts left in the first half and under a minute to go. We had the momentum going and killed it.

[B]DeAngelo Hall[/B] Sure, you can blame Haslett for the all out blitz on 3 and 21 but if you're going to talk the talk like Hall does you better be able to back it up and give your DC confidence that you can handle a 1-1 assignment

[B]Jammal Brown[/B] After TW basically handled Ware all night, Brown basically escorted him into the Redskins backfield

[B]People Who Keep Blaming The Media[/B] **** all of you ;)

We blew a huge chance tonight to go 3-0 and 2-0 in the division. We're 2-1 which is not 0-3 as some may be thinking after tonight but we can't let repeated chances pass us by as they did tonight.[/quote]


On Kyle Shanahan's play calling: He seems rather hit or miss when it comes to red zone play calling. I, too, can't understand why he started to abandon the run - we have two very capable running backs, we need to use them.

Rex Grossman: I noticed in the Cards game that he seemed to make some very slow decisions - such as the wide open pass to Fred Davis that if thrown on time, would have resulted in six points. He needs to play a complete game. I believe if he has another terrible game against the Rams, Mike needs to think about starting John Beck.

D. Hall: Hall needs to keep his mouth shut. If he wants to be considered one of the top corners in the league, then having one on one coverage against any one of those Dallas WRs should have been cake for him. I'm growing more frustrated with him as time goes on.

J. Brown: Agreed completely!

Media: Only thing that makes me sick was the love fest for Tony Romo. If I hear more about how he is such a warrior for playing with broken ribs and a punctured lung, I will become homicidal.

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Honestly when I saw the 3rd and 21 all out blitz look, I thought we'd bring everyone but Laron who would drop deep into coverage...That didn't happen and is a major reason why were what we are.

And NOBODY on this board should be saying "We should beat the rams easily" I have to look no further back than last week on this board when people said that we'd crush the cowboys last night with all their injuries.

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I won't say easily, but we should beat the Rams.

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I don't know how anyone could be upset with a defense that didn't yield one touchdown.

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We will easly beat the Rams.

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After watching that offense last night, not close to an easy win.

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[quote=12thMan;841517]I don't know how anyone could be upset with a defense that didn't yield one touchdown.[/quote]

You've been around long enough to know better.

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[quote=12thMan;841517]I don't know how anyone could be upset with a defense that didn't yield one touchdown.[/quote]
TOTALLY
How many times did the D make a great stop for our ineffectual O? No...you cannot fault the D for this loss. The Defense provided many opportunities and the Cowboys Center provided many more. It is the Offense fault as this game should have been 48-18...Skins.
Rebuilding is a......rough road. I may not live through it

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I was actually pretty damn proud of how the D played. Not giving up touchdowns, knocking the sh*t outta people, getting a couple turnovers. Really not much more you can ask for, unless your askin Kyle and Rex to **** up the offense, especially in the red zone or throwing a pick deep in your own territory, or special team effing up another kick.

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[quote=GreekSkin;841187]I agree 100%

Jackson was particularly bad imo, it's like he wasn't even thinking about the possibility of felix getting the ball.[/quote]

My question is why doesn't Zo get in the game after Rak goes out?

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[quote=12thMan;841328]Look, shit happens. One bad play, one bad call. You can't win em all. Not the end of the world. This team will beat the Rams.

The Ravens, The Steelers...lots of really good defenses have been getting torched this year. [B]I know this sounds crazy[/B], but I think we're overreacting to one game.[/quote]

Doesn't sound crazy at all, unless there were members of this forum who actually thought we were destined to go 16-0.

Big picture guys. In the big picture, we're 2-1, with 13 games left and a not-so-tough schedule. We're definitely not done yet.

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Monday Night Countdown - What a total disgrace, deserves it's own smackdown post. The show is 90 minutes. Here's the breakdown:

- Highlights and general football talk - 15 minutes

- Homo lovefest - 40 minutes. Did you guys know he was playing with bad ribs?? Oh wait let's hear more about his ribs, but this time let's do it via bus interview!

- Vick - 20 minutes - never have I seen such concern for a BRUISED NON-THROWING hand for christ sake. But in-studio analysis is not enough, now let's cut to the field and see what Dilfer and Young think about Vick's hand!

- Peyton's injury - 10 minutes - Really??????? Peyton's out 'til 2012 - WE GET IT!!

- Redskins 'analysis' - 5 minutes - I put analysis in quotes because this was really just a 5-minute Rex bashing session. They all went around the circle cursing him and laughing at him, calling him a prius... quality stuff guys.

One of the benefits of playing on MNF is that all the pre-game BS hype is about YOUR team. ESPN has the rest of the week to discuss these stupid stories ad nauseum. Can't I see some Skins stuff? Give me a Shanny interview or maybe a Kerrigan. I'd even take a Hall interview where he shoots his big mouth off. Give me something!!

ESPN should be ashamed, pure fckn garbage. Time to get you outta there Smoot. Time to launch SSPN.

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If the Redskins were more willing to offer their players up for interviews and features there would be more. Not going to divulge much more, but there was a story (a positive one) that got squashed by the team. Maybe some other time. But, and I've said this before, hate Jerry Jones all you want but as a media partner you won't find more cooperative owners than him or organizations than the Cowboys. Is it self-serving for them? Sure, but they know what they're doing

And maybe you missed where Young praised Rex

And on a national scale Vick, Peyton, and even Romo are much bigger deals.

The reality is that more people tune into their local regional sports network or even radio for pregame. You may be more likely to watch ESPN's pregame show the night the Redskins are playing than on other nights but it's a national show meant for a broad audience. I've said it before myself, if I want Redskins news I'm not going to ESPN as my primary source. There are better local options.

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[quote=firstdown;841522]We will easly beat the Rams.[/quote]

I like the optimism but don't we say that every year and lose. Seems like we play them every year.

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[quote=SmootSmack;841557]And maybe you missed where Young praised Rex[/quote]

Ya I saw it... then they immediately cut back to one of the guys saying "I'm still trying to process the Rex is a top-10 QB comment". They can't even give 2 seconds for the nice comment to sink in.

I understand everything you're saying, but I think it's wrong. It's insulting to turn on MNC when the Skins are playing, and have to see the whole 90 minutes devoted to our rivals. Romo's one thing but to spend so much time on Vick... it's a slap in the face. Guess we've kind of earned that treatment though.

I still say it's time for SSPN.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;841564]Ya I saw it... then they immediately cut back to one of the guys saying "I'm still trying to process the Rex is a top-10 QB comment". They can't even give 2 seconds for the nice comment to sink in.

I understand everything you're saying, but I think it's wrong. It's insulting to turn on MNC when the Skins are playing, and have to see the whole 90 minutes devoted to our rivals. Romo's one thing but to spend so much time on Vick... it's a slap in the face. Guess we've kind of earned that treatment though.

I still say it's time for SSPN.[/quote]

I'd tell you to tune into CSN's pregame show, but you're in Canada, so idk what to tell you. But SS is right, unfortunately MNC is a national broadcast, so expect it to cover more nationally prominent items. I watched CSN's pregame yesterday and even though it was pretty boring and mundane it was at least all about the Redskins, which I enjoyed.

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I get that the Skins are a "closed media" team and would agree that it is to their detriment.

I get that Romo is a very good QB.

But dear God - the swooning over Romo last night and in the media is just disgusting. I swear it's like he is the second coming. He has won ONE playoff game! ONE! He has choked in the same number and his team has never made past the first round of the play-offs. Can we wait to annoint him until AFTER he has won something significant.

Listening to Jaws and the rest swoon over him last night was sickening. I swear they all had to change their shorts mid-telecast.

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ESPN has never been big on the Redskins but then again we haven't been good in 100 years

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[quote=JoeRedskin;841568]I get that the Skins are a "closed media" team and would agree that it is to their detriment.

I get that Romo is a very good QB.

But dear God - the swooning over Romo last night and in the media is just disgusting. [B]I swear it's like he is the second coming[/B]. He has won ONE playoff game! ONE! He has choked in the same number and his team has never made past the first round of the play-offs. Can we wait to annoint him until AFTER he has won something significant.

Listening to Jaws and the rest swoon over him last night was sickening. I swear they all had to change their shorts mid-telecast.[/quote]

You didn't get the memo? He is the second coming. First quarterback ever to play with a broken rib. Didn't you see the pain on his face? That's the kind of pain no other quarterback in the history of the game has ever had to deal with. Didn't you see the way he led his team down the field repeatedly and failed to get into the end zone? No other qb can do that the way he did. What a warrior. Oh my gosh. Did you see the way he told the other 10 offensive players to hop on his back so he could piggyback them down to the end zone? Boy you missed out.

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As much as I hated all the gayness over Romo, he was out there with a broken rib getting the crap knocked out of him. He didn't even practice all week. My hat is off to him. He's one tough SOB.

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The praise of Romo may be a bit much at times (though conveniently people dismiss when he's criticized), but in the wake of receivers who didn't know their routes and a center who couldn't snap coupled with his injuries he was pretty solid yesterday.

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I actually don't envy the Dallas media limelight. It turns the team into a bunch of divas and look how they respond? They played terribly, made gag-reel worthy mistakes all night long and the media covered for them.

Anyone think that actually does any service to the team or the players? Romo will come away from this game feeling like he did a good job instead of being disgusted.

I prefer the Gilbert Arenas school of motivational psychology, personally. (Though not the Arenas school of PR): "They all hate you, they all want to see you fail. F' em. Stick it in their faces. "

On the PR side I'm all Art Monk:

"Do your work, pound the other guys, and when the fickle media wants to do an interview and hear you talk about how awesome you are, you say "just doing our jobs, nothing more."

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[quote=mooby;841571]You didn't get the memo? He is the second coming. First quarterback ever to play with a broken rib. Didn't you see the pain on his face? That's the kind of pain no other quarterback in the history of the game has ever had to deal with. Didn't you see the way he led his team down the field repeatedly and failed to get into the end zone? No other qb can do that the way he did. What a warrior. Oh my gosh. Did you see the way he told the other 10 offensive players to hop on his back so he could piggyback them down to the end zone? Boy you missed out.[/quote]

And what a class act! Even though the rookies made tons of mistakes, he refused to sell them out on national tv, instead waiting til the sidelines or the huddle to state his case. He even took some of the miscommunication blame on himself, he is the QB after all. What a crock... :stop:

Ok sorry for the ranting but I think I've finally vomitted all the Romo gayness out of my system. :vomit: Ready to move on.

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He did a great job - Undoubtedly - and deserved praise for his toughness. The praise, though, was over the top before and after. I hope the announcers go back and listen to themselves. Praise is one thing, gushing man-love is another.

As for the criticism, when it occurs, is generally fair and deserved. At the same time, I have yet to see anyone castigate him on a regular basis or fail to quickly forget his faults after he has a good game. Everyone has forgotten about his week one choke in light of his epic brilliance. None of this - "He's tough and played a great game but he's done that before - he has to show he can do it all year long"

Again, he played a helluva game. However, IMHO, he needs to do a lot more to justify the demi-god status he is being accorded.

Sorry, even considering the adversity he played under, to me the announcing last night was just wayyyyy over the top.

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D.Hall - already cursed him in the other thread so won't rehash. In summary he's a #2 CB with a big mouth.

Brown - still trying to figure out what makes this guy so special and deserving of a new long-term contract...

Rex - was really hoping he'd use this game to silence the critics and make them eat their words. Instead he reconfirmed their views.

Rob Jackson - not sure why you're busy tackling the blocking FB while the RB is running for 50 yards behind you.

O playcalling - we had multiple drives in the 4th quarter where we could have sealed the game with a score but failed. Rex is partly to blame but the coaches gotta find a way to score on one of those drives.

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This just in:
Last night Tony Romo helped an old lady across the street, rescued a kitten from a tree, saved a family of 4 from a burning building, cured cancer, erased the national deficit, and discovered the formula for cold fusion.

Somewhere in between, he managed to squeeze in a football game.

He is taking Tuesday off because his cape is at the cleaners.

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[quote=GridIron26;841454]The players/coaches that deserve to be smacked are Rexy, J. Brown, and Kyle Shanahan. Rexy showed us and the national exactly why Bears and Texans let him go. Rexy often make good plays AND bad plays. Unfortunately, this time Rexy's bad plays cost us the game.

Trent Williams handled Ware pretty well last night, although he did get away with few holding penalties. But Brown could not handle Ware nor Spencer. Rob Ryan was smart to attack Brown once it was evident that Brown could not handle Ware. We might have won the game if Brown could handle Ware and Spencer on his own.

Kyle called a vanilla game last night, although he did call good plays first several series. But the offense then stalled later in the game. Granted, some has to do with Rexy's bad plays. I wished Kyle would include Davis more in the game. Not to bash on Cooley but it seemed like Cooley could not sting Dallas D with his speed as Davis would. Cooley is one of my favorite Redskins players, but I actually wished that Davis was the primary target over Cooley last night. I really believed that Davis would hurt Dallas D more. Also, I was disappointed that Kyle turned away from running game, especially right after Hightower was running good. Hightower and Helu more than often were always a break-tackle away from hitting homeruns. Kyle have to keep feeding the ball to Hightower and Helu - they will end up making big runs eventually.

[B]Despite what many people, I actually believe Haslett called good game last night. Our D held Cowgirls offense to field goals only. Cowgirls offense could not capitalize on Redskins turnovers - Redskins D held them pretty good.[/B] Orakpo's absence in 4th quarter is evident. Although Rob Jackson made a good play, but he could not apply pressure consistently as Orakpo did. I know, Haslett made a bad call on 3 down & 21 yards, but it was sorely based on Romo's play. Romo made a great play on that play. Like Shanny said in post game interview - it happens, sometimes we call right plays and sometimes we call bad plays. Whatever happens, we move on. We should feel good about our defense, now that Landry is back. It looks like our defense will be top 10 this year, which is big jump from last year.[/quote]

Thank you. Haslett seems to be everybody's favorite whipping boy. I really don't know why that is. Who else caught the stat that the announcers mentioned last night: Redskins had the #1 defense in the NFL on 3rd down. That's a huge stat.

When was the last time Dallas was held without a TD? They broke Romo's 20-game streak of consecutive games with a TD pass.

But man, ONE busted coverage on 3rd and 21 when the defense did everything they possibly could to keep us in the game while the offense took half the night off and Jim Haslett is the antichrist.

Sports fans just cannot do without a villain -- even when he's on the team they root for. Crazy.

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[quote=#56fanatic;841462]I think this team is WAY better than what I expected. The game last night was a tough, hard fought loss. I can't get too upset over anything, other than just the plain loss of an opportunity to be 3-0.
As far as the blitz on 3rd and 21, hey thats what we do. We are the #1 team in the NFL on 3rd down by blitzing and not giving the QB time to survey the field and find an open guy. I am not blaming the call at all. He made a play, Dez made a play and we didn't. We have been making plays all night, hell all year, we just didn't make that one. Again, to me it comes down to a missed field goal. I am really tired of finding ways to lose games by missed field goals, extra points.

Gano fought hard though coming back and nailing the 50 yarder, I give him credit for that. But we have to execute the FG opportunities, especially the short ones, making those 50+ yarders are bonuses.[/quote]

Excellent point. Though they'll never say it, I'm sure that in their hearts, Cowboy fans know that the Redskins are no longer the pushovers of the NFC East, and that they are really tough to beat. Last season's opening loss at FedEX, a three point nail-biter in Dallas last year, and last night's two point sqeaker has proven that.

If nothing else, they know this contest is gonna be a dogfight from here on out.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;841595]This just in:
Last night Tony Romo helped an old lady across the street, rescued a kitten from a tree, saved a family of 4 from a burning building, cured cancer, erased the national deficit, and discovered the formula for cold fusion.

Somewhere in between, he managed to squeeze in a football game.

He is taking Tuesday off because his cape is at the cleaners.[/quote]

You know what-- he could be the greatest player in NFL history, but he has such a goofy look that I can't ever take him seriously. Even when he winces in pain, he looks goofy -- like he's about to say just joking.

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I didn't like the 3rd & 21 call, just seems too risky & I definitely don't think Hall should be out there 1 on 1 w/no safety help. Have to wonder if Haslett was thinking it might be 4 down territory if they could gain much of it back on that 3rd down?

That said, the D played a really good game, but why did Romo take no hits in the 1st half but they had a lot less yardage? I wonder if the blitzes backfired on more than just that one big play. I'd have to watch most of it again.

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I actually thought Haslett called a good defensive game. That third and 21 was a bad call by him thought only because they were able to adjust to it after seeing it the previous 2 plays/looks. It was Haslett's gamble in addition to Hall's gamble with looking for the pick that made that play work against the redskins. It's not about playing less aggressive-- they just need to know when to take less risks and be less predictable about it.

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[quote=freddyg12;841601]I didn't like the 3rd & 21 call, just seems too risky & I definitely don't think Hall should be out there 1 on 1 w/no safety help. [B]Have to wonder if Haslett was thinking it might be 4 down territory if they could gain much of it back on that 3rd down?[/B]

That said, the D played a really good game, but why did Romo take no hits in the 1st half but they had a lot less yardage? I wonder if the blitzes backfired on more than just that one big play. I'd have to watch most of it again.[/quote]

He was probably going for the kill shot, hoping to force an INT. He's a blitz happy coordinator, and he's not the only one. As we all know, that philosophy will burn you sometimes, but pay really nice dividends when it comes together.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;841595]This just in:
Last night Tony Romo helped an old lady across the street, rescued a kitten from a tree, saved a family of 4 from a burning building, cured cancer, erased the national deficit, and discovered the formula for cold fusion.

Somewhere in between, he managed to squeeze in a football game.

He is taking Tuesday off because his cape is at the cleaners.[/quote]

Hilarious........the media is on that boys jock like no other in recent memory.

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.. and if Hall played overtop of Bryant that play (and then play closer to him near the 1st down marker) -- Romo doesn't throw it, or throws it and Hall stops him before getting the first down.

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My smackdown goes to Rex Grossmans speed and girly hands.

Good God I'd rather have Trent Williams w/ the ball scrambling out to the left then Grossman.

Grossman even was looking behind him and still couldnt stop from fumbling. He is so damn slow. If he gets touched he fumbles.

Grossman is who he is. If he starts all 16 games he is good for about 30 total turnovers counting Int's and fumbles.

That being said he should still get the start vs. the Rams. Too early to pull him.