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MTK 10-28-2011 08:09 AM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
I think it's clear now why he was playing fullback in the first place. He was having trouble running routes with his knee problems.

irish 10-28-2011 08:11 AM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
If CC should blame anyone he should blame the NFLPA as they should have negiotiated some kind of deal to allow players on rehab at the time of the lockout to keep working with their team doctor. The PA dropped the ball on this one.

MTK 10-28-2011 08:15 AM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
A lockout kinda loses it's power once you start negotiating little loopholes along the way. In a perfect world the players would have been able to work with the team doctors, but that's just not reality. Sucks for Cooley but now he's got enough time to rehab properly and hopefully come back strong next season.

MTK 10-28-2011 08:16 AM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;852826][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/27/next-year-cooley-could-be-a-casualty-of-the-cap/"]Next year, Cooley could be a casualty of the cap | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]

As long as he's healthy I don't see why they won't be able to make something work. It's not like his deal is a cap killer.

mredskins 10-28-2011 08:26 AM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=Mattyk;852855]A lockout kinda loses it's power once you start negotiating little loopholes along the way. In a perfect world the players would have been able to work with the team doctors, but that's just not reality. Sucks for Cooley but now he's got enough time to rehab properly and hopefully come back strong next season.[/quote]


I agree plus next year we probably need him more with hopeful a young QB in the pocket.

irish 10-28-2011 09:51 AM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=Mattyk;852855]A lockout kinda loses it's power once you start negotiating little loopholes along the way. In a perfect world the players would have been able to work with the team doctors, but that's just not reality. Sucks for Cooley but now he's got enough time to rehab properly and hopefully come back strong next season.[/quote]

Not really and it would have been a very small amount of players so it wouldnt have amounted to much. I'm surprised the PA didnt even try even to get theat loophole although I doubt the owners would have gone for it.

mooby 10-28-2011 10:26 AM

[QUOTE=Mattyk;852850]smoke crack much?[/QUOTE]

It's hard to type when you have the shakes.

Nomad 10-28-2011 01:18 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;852850]smoke crack much?[/quote]

Lmao....... Talk about this next year..........

Nomad 10-28-2011 01:21 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=Giantone;852846]wow......I see you have'nt been a Redskin fan very long.[/quote]

Longer than you know..... Im as right about this as the Newton haters were about Cam...... He is.not good enough to play in this league, he is overrated, yea right, some a give your first born or wives to have him.taking snaps under center.......

MTK 10-28-2011 02:13 PM

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[quote=Nomad;852975]Lmao....... Talk about this next year..........[/quote]

got it, you'll be off crack by then

good luck

DynamiteRave 10-28-2011 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=Nomad;852978]Longer than you know..... Im as right about this as the Newton haters were about Cam...... He is.not good enough to play in this league, he is overrated, yea right, some a give your first born or wives to have him.taking snaps under center.......[/QUOTE]

What is this? I don't even...

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mooby 10-28-2011 08:07 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;853051]What is this? I don't even...

Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk[/quote]

It's that damn crackhead-to-English dictionary, so unreliable.

itvnetop 10-28-2011 08:35 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;852803]I would be hesitant to say out played. He's had a couple good catches in a couple of games. I would say he simply took over the reigns from an injured Cooley. [B]I'm border line calling Davis a bust.[/B] This year he's dropped more balls then he's caught.[/quote]

Several writers have already called Davis a top 5 TE this season. Sometimes, I think you just like to get a rise outta people haha.

SirClintonPortis 10-28-2011 08:53 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
The time to call Davis a bust was in 2008. Him oversleeping should have gotten him cut and replaced by an old vet. We fortunately never would have benefitted from his good performances this year. lol

That Guy 10-29-2011 12:27 AM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
the last time cooley went down, davis stayed late, worked harder and produced in his absence. Unless you're really working two TEs into your offense though, it's kind of a waste of money. NE does it pretty well, but with cooley hurt, it's hard to judge how it'd work here.

SBXVII 10-29-2011 10:09 AM

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[quote=itvnetop;853116]Several writers have already called Davis a top 5 TE this season. Sometimes, I think you just like to get a rise outta people haha.[/quote]

I do. lol. Especially the Davis fans. No seriously I go to work for the last few yrs and hear nothing from a coworker but Davis, Davis, Davis..... but Davis doesn't see the field. Davis see's the field and doesn't produce much. Last year Cooley gets hurt and Davis entered the game and looked ok, not outstanding, not better then Cooley but he looked ok. and all I heard was Davis, Davis, Davis.

This year Davis is the starter for the most part and I see more dropped balls out of him then catches. I'm still just amazed at the fans who say trade Cooley. Cooley came out on the radio (I think Fri. morning) and said he spoke with GM Allen about not being able to be with the team, Cooley suggested the team cut him, give him an injury settlement, then rehire him as a coach for the remaining part of this season. Because he knows he can't be with the team but he knows he's valuable to Davis and Paulson on the sideline. He even suggested he'd take a lesser contract because he just wants to stay with the Skins.

On a side note.... my coworker this year was all about Beck, Beck, Beck..... it's sooo irritating. I'm truly sorry to the rest of you if I come off as hating Davis and Beck, but it does have something to do with my coworker simply walking around just saying ... Beck, Beck, Beck..... every time he see's me. :frusty:

SBXVII 10-29-2011 10:13 AM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=That Guy;853132]the last time cooley went down, davis stayed late, worked harder and produced in his absence. Unless you're really working two TEs into your offense though, it's kind of a waste of money. NE does it pretty well, but with cooley hurt, it's hard to judge how it'd work here.[/quote]


I guess we shall see soon enough. They played both Davis and Paulson last week and I think Paulson caught a decent pass for a 1st down.

But during the week they picked up D.Byrd who played on the same college team as Davis. Both are pass catching TE's so we might start seeing more of the two TE sets starting to work out.

SirClintonPortis 10-29-2011 12:03 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;853146]I do. lol. Especially the Davis fans. No seriously I go to work for the last few yrs and hear nothing from a coworker but Davis, Davis, Davis..... but Davis doesn't see the field. Davis see's the field and doesn't produce much. Last year Cooley gets hurt and Davis entered the game and looked ok, not outstanding, not better then Cooley but he looked ok. and all I heard was Davis, Davis, Davis.

This year Davis is the starter for the most part and I see more dropped balls out of him then catches. I'm still just amazed at the fans who say trade Cooley. Cooley came out on the radio (I think Fri. morning) and said he spoke with GM Allen about not being able to be with the team, Cooley suggested the team cut him, give him an injury settlement, then rehire him as a coach for the remaining part of this season. Because he knows he can't be with the team but he knows he's valuable to Davis and Paulson on the sideline. He even suggested he'd take a lesser contract because he just wants to stay with the Skins.

On a side note.... my coworker this year was all about Beck, Beck, Beck..... it's sooo irritating. I'm truly sorry to the rest of you if I come off as hating Davis and Beck, but it does have something to do with my coworker simply walking around just saying ... Beck, Beck, Beck..... every time he see's me. :frusty:[/quote]
[url=http://hosted.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFC&type=Receiving&rank=232&year=]STATS Hosted Solution | Leaders - Pass Dropped - NFL - Football[/url]
Fred Davis only has two drops on the entire year, not 29 drops. Hell, I don't know if he's even been targeted 57 times.

Nomad 10-29-2011 01:33 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=Mattyk;853007]got it, you'll be off crack by then

good luck[/quote]

Right...... Lol

MTK 10-29-2011 02:17 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;853174][URL="http://hosted.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFC&type=Receiving&rank=232&year="]STATS Hosted Solution | Leaders - Pass Dropped - NFL - Football[/URL]
Fred Davis only has two drops on the entire year, not 29 drops. Hell, I don't know if he's even been targeted 57 times.[/quote]

hatters gonna hatt no matter whatt

MTK 10-29-2011 02:19 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=SBXVII;853146]I do. lol. Especially the Davis fans. No seriously I go to work for the last few yrs and hear nothing from a coworker but Davis, Davis, Davis..... but Davis doesn't see the field. Davis see's the field and doesn't produce much. Last year Cooley gets hurt and Davis entered the game and looked ok, not outstanding, not better then Cooley but he looked ok. and all I heard was Davis, Davis, Davis.

This year Davis is the starter for the most part [B]and I see more dropped balls out of him then catches.[/B] I'm still just amazed at the fans who say trade Cooley. Cooley came out on the radio (I think Fri. morning) and said he spoke with GM Allen about not being able to be with the team, Cooley suggested the team cut him, give him an injury settlement, then rehire him as a coach for the remaining part of this season. Because he knows he can't be with the team but he knows he's valuable to Davis and Paulson on the sideline. He even suggested he'd take a lesser contract because he just wants to stay with the Skins.

On a side note.... my coworker this year was all about Beck, Beck, Beck..... it's sooo irritating. I'm truly sorry to the rest of you if I come off as hating Davis and Beck, but it does have something to do with my coworker simply walking around just saying ... Beck, Beck, Beck..... every time he see's me. :frusty:[/quote]

You're clearly under the influence of something while watching the games, or you're simply not watching.

SirClintonPortis 10-29-2011 02:51 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=Mattyk;853187]You're clearly under the influence of something while watching the games, or you're simply not watching.[/quote]
He is a slave to his own mind.

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SBXVII 10-29-2011 07:20 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;853174][URL="http://hosted.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFC&type=Receiving&rank=232&year="]STATS Hosted Solution | Leaders - Pass Dropped - NFL - Football[/URL]
Fred Davis only has two drops on the entire year, not 29 drops. Hell, I don't know if he's even been targeted 57 times.[/quote]

#1 I don't recall giving any specific number, but having said that I would have guessed he had atleast 2 drops a game, about 2 catches for 1st downs, and atleast 1 or 2 tipped passes for interceptions.

But thats just my drugs..... right Matty? ;)

Gary84Clark 10-29-2011 07:31 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;852813]People may have forgotten Cooley was playing FB for a few games. Another reason why he may not have been in on the action as much.[/quote]

Those Shannahans do the oddest things sometimes I tell ya.

SBXVII 10-29-2011 07:35 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=Gary84Clark;853214]Those Shannahans do the oddest things sometimes I tell ya.[/quote]

Yeah like having a TE (Cooley) playing FB, and a FB (Sellers) playing TE.

Go figure.

itvnetop 10-29-2011 07:38 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;853147]

But during the week they picked up D.Byrd who played on the same college team as Davis. Both are pass catching TE's so we might start seeing more of the two TE sets starting to work out.[/quote]

Byrd made some ridiculous catches while he was at SC... interesting seeing Shanny pick up a similar TE to Davis.

MTK 10-29-2011 08:58 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=SBXVII;853211]#1 I don't recall giving any specific number, but having said that I would have guessed he had atleast 2 drops a game, about 2 catches for 1st downs, and atleast 1 or 2 tipped passes for interceptions.

But thats just my drugs..... right Matty? ;)[/quote]

You said he has "more drops than catches", well he has 28 catches so I'll let you figure out the rest.

SirClintonPortis 10-29-2011 09:03 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=SBXVII;853211]#1 I don't recall giving any specific number, but having said that I would have guessed he had atleast 2 drops a game, about 2 catches for 1st downs, and atleast 1 or 2 tipped passes for interceptions.

But thats just my drugs..... right Matty? ;)[/quote]Catches are a [B]countable[/B] stat. Hence, even if not specified, we know there is a [B]discrete number of catches a player has reeled in.[/B] You said you have seen more drops than catches from Fred Davis. Hence, you have seen [I]n[/I] catches from Fred Davis and [I]n+1[/I] or more drops from Fred Davis. [B]Since Freddy only has two drops on the season, that means you saw only 0 or 1 catch from Freddy all season.[/B] :laughing2

SBXVII 10-29-2011 09:38 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
Nope, didn't know he had 28 catches. but as I said I'd have "guessed" more drops then catches. So.... I guess he has been thrown to 57 times. lol.

NC_Skins 10-29-2011 09:52 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=SBXVII;853230]Nope, didn't know he had 28 catches. but as I said I'd have "guessed" more drops then catches. So.... I guess he has been thrown to 57 times. lol.[/quote]

You didn't care to know. You simply don't like the guy for whatever reason and are a huge Cooley fan boy so you base your judgments off delusional facts you conjure up in your head.


Kinda like the D. Hall fans. :cheeky-sm



Davis > Cooley.........7 days a week and twice on Sundays.

SirClintonPortis 10-29-2011 09:55 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=SBXVII;853230]Nope, didn't know he had 28 catches. but as I said I'd have "guessed" more drops then catches. So.... I guess he has been thrown to 57 times. lol.[/quote]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/852803-post110.html[/url]

"Guess" does not appear in this post. :FIREdevil

dmek25 10-30-2011 06:41 AM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
i love it when people get called out...keeps things interesting around here

Giantone 10-30-2011 09:58 AM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=Mattyk;853186]hatters gonna hatt no matter whatt[/quote]


.........this!

over the mountain 10-30-2011 10:25 AM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
heard a redskins talking head say one reason paulson got open and made some nice catches agaisnt carolina was that he was strictly a blocking tightend and it probably caught carolina off guard when he went out on routes but to expect to see teams start to account for him if he continues to see looks.

makes sense. i did like paulsons excitement. guy was pumped and at that point in the carolina game i think we needed some energy, positive body language.

Lotus 10-30-2011 11:06 AM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=over the mountain;853264]heard a redskins talking head say one reason paulson got open and made some nice catches agaisnt carolina was that he was strictly a blocking tightend and it probably caught carolina off guard when he went out on routes but to expect to see teams start to account for him if he continues to see looks.

makes sense. i did like paulsons excitement. guy was pumped and at that point in the carolina game i think we needed some energy, positive body language.[/quote]

Yeah, you could tell that Paulson was stoked to be contributing. It would be great if every player felt that way.

NC_Skins 10-30-2011 11:34 AM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
Maybe I missed it but who was added to the team in Hightower's and Cooley's spots?

SmootSmack 10-30-2011 11:43 AM

Brandyn Thompson and Dominique Byrd I believe

Alvin Walton 10-30-2011 12:21 PM

Re: Cooley put on IR
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;853233][url]http://www.thewarpath.net/852803-post110.html[/url]

"Guess" does not appear in this post. :FIREdevil[/quote]

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