Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

5mill per is a lot better than 8-10 per like the first reports.

that's a great deal for the skins. It's funny that he could have not fired his agent and signed a better offer two months ago. oh well.

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[quote=That Guy;909070]5mill per is a lot better than 8-10 per like the first reports.

that's a great deal for the skins. It's funny that he could have not fired his agent and signed a better offer two months ago. oh well.[/quote]

I think the waiting game really paid off for us... That seems odd that the Skins would offer him something higher and he ends up only signing for that much. His agent must really be terrible.

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[quote=SmootSmack;909049]5 year deal but essentially 2 years, 10.7 million, with 5.2 guaranteed per JLC and others[/quote]

Lets be honest, thats a steal.

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[quote=Monkeydad;909067]Apologies. You posted this while I was replying.


Agreed, I should have ignored him.

So back to Fletcher...

I fully expect him to play the next 2 years at a Pro Bowl level, not saying he'll be recognized but his play really has not declined. He'll throw in another couple of interceptions and plenty of highlight reel hits.

I don't see him retiring until he's at least 40 unless he decides to leave before his play falls apart. Many players stay a year too long but if anyone has the intelligence and integrity to actually realize it's time to stop before it is too late, I think London would be that guy.[/quote]

I see it this way too. It would be ideal if we draft another ILB this year or next for London to mentor. He is one of the smartest defenders in the game and his coaching/mentorship would be invaluable.

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[quote=SmootSmack;909049]5 year deal but essentially 2 years, 10.7 million, with 5.2 guaranteed per JLC and others[/quote]

Excellent,thats what I said in my first post,that 3 - 5 mil per yr is what I would expect to pay,not 13 mil per yr

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;909056]Not to take this thread off course but I "ignore" a lot of people because dailogue with them is rarely ever worth it,but I probably can't "officially" since I'm a mod.



Anyhow, others should probably do the same or just add people to your ignore list.



Now back to London...[/QUOTE]



You're a mod? But, I agree ignoring is the best thing ever

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[quote=Chico23231;909076][B]Lets be honest, thats a steal.[/B][/quote]
And if I recall correctly, his initial tweets after the deal was outlined were very positive.....?
Very Happy with this whole deal.......

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

Fletcher is truly worth 6 or 7 million dollars a year. What he's done for the Redskins defense the past five years is priceless. By all accounts going by the way Fletcher has played, there's no price you can put on it.

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

ted debiase said everybody has a price

[QUOTE=los panda;909133]ted debiase said everybody has a price[/QUOTE]

Off topic-your best post ever.

On topic-Suprised at the price, but not at our FO approach. Even though they still get a bad rap, BA/MS have been consistent for the most part. They polished the turd VC left and now turning it into fertilizer.

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[quote=Player_HTTR;909137]Off topic-your best post ever.

On topic-Suprised at the price, but not at our FO approach. Even though they still get a bad rap, BA/MS have been consistent for the most part. They polished the turd VC left and now turning it into fertilizer.[/quote]

love the analogy. perfect way to sum up the transition from the VC days to the BA days.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/38102/fletcher-was-a-critical-re-sign-for-redskins]Fletcher was a critical re-sign for Redskins - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

We already know most of stuff in the article, but still a good one.

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

I keep seeing the phrases [I]"No price is too much for Fletcher" or "he's worth a huge contract" and "What's he's done for the past 5 years"[/I] (my personal favorite) mentioned in this thread but none of you are logical about it.


First off, you have to remember this is a business. Second, you have to remember there is only a certain amount of resources a team can tie up on salaries.


Ok, once you grasp those two concepts, then you'll understand that paying a 37 year old linebacker huge sums of money isn't smart. I don't care if he is the leader of a team. I don't care if he is the face of the franchise. I don't care if he did lead the NFL in tackles. It's not what he has done, it's what he will do. I think history shows us quite well that 37+ linebackers really aren't going to produce at the level that they did 5 years ago. Do you actually think that Fletcher can cover RBs/TEs like he did 5 years ago? Not sure what team you were watching last year, but I recall Fletcher slow to a many of plays and it wasn't because of lack of effort or heart. It's his age, his speed and it sure isn't going to get better over the course of the next year. A 37 year old isn't going to beat a 23 year old RB on the edge. A 37 year old isn't going to keep up with a Gronkowski.

I understand you guys are huge fans of him and so am I. There isn't a person on this team that has been more valuable to this franchise than Fletcher. That doesn't mean you just throw tons of cash at him because of what he's meant to us. He got paid rewarding during his time here and will so on this next contract.

You think Fletcher meant more to our team than Peyton Manning meant to the Colts? They made a business decision (smart one) and so did we by not overpaying Fletcher. I'm very satisfied with the numbers that he signed for and think it's funny he could have gotten more had he not fired his agent. Talk about a huge backfire.

Let's put away all this talk about "hobbled" linebacker and raise our mugs to welcome a man back who's put it all on the line for this team even though many others haven't.

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

[quote=GridIron26;909143][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/38102/fletcher-was-a-critical-re-sign-for-redskins]Fletcher was a critical re-sign for Redskins - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

We already know most of stuff in the article, but still a good one.[/quote]

I'm glad Fletcher re-signed with the Redskins. Could you or me or anybody imagine what the reaction would have been had London Fletcher walked on the Redskins? I wouldn't want to think about that.

I know it's a business but it nice to see Fletcher rewarded. Skins have had the rep of giving big checks to the big names but letting "their guys " go.

Even though we let him taste the market, I think it's a bit different.

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

[quote=NC_Skins;909152]I keep seeing the phrases [I]"No price is too much for Fletcher" or "he's worth a huge contract" and "What's he's done for the past 5 years"[/I] (my personal favorite) mentioned in this thread but none of you are logical about it.


First off, you have to remember this is a business. Second, you have to remember there is only a certain amount of resources a team can tie up on salaries.


Ok, once you grasp those two concepts, then you'll understand that paying a 37 year old linebacker huge sums of money isn't smart. I don't care if he is the leader of a team. I don't care if he is the face of the franchise. I don't care if he did lead the NFL in tackles. It's not what he has done, it's what he will do. I think history shows us quite well that 37+ linebackers really aren't going to produce at the level that they did 5 years ago. Do you actually think that Fletcher can cover RBs/TEs like he did 5 years ago? Not sure what team you were watching last year, but I recall Fletcher slow to a many of plays and it wasn't because of lack of effort or heart. It's his age, his speed and it sure isn't going to get better over the course of the next year. A 37 year old isn't going to beat a 23 year old RB on the edge. A 37 year old isn't going to keep up with a Gronkowski.

I understand you guys are huge fans of him and so am I. There isn't a person on this team that has been more valuable to this franchise than Fletcher. That doesn't mean you just throw tons of cash at him because of what he's meant to us. He got paid rewarding during his time here and will so on this next contract.

You think Fletcher meant more to our team than Peyton Manning meant to the Colts? They made a business decision (smart one) and so did we by not overpaying Fletcher. I'm very satisfied with the numbers that he signed for and think it's funny he could have gotten more had he not fired his agent. Talk about a huge backfire.

Let's put away all this talk about "hobbled" linebacker and raise our mugs to welcome a man back who's put it all on the line for this team even though many others haven't.[/quote]

So what's your point about London's contract? He got less than he might have and deserves it? Or he deserves the bigger contract he (probably) could have gotten a few weeks ago?

Posts this long that don't go anywhere drive me to drink :drink

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

[quote=The Goat;909190]So what's your point about London's contract? He got less than he might have and deserves it? Or he deserves the bigger contract he (probably) could have gotten a few weeks ago?

Posts this long that don't go anywhere drive me to drink :drink[/quote]

he's probably worth 6-7mill per, he wanted 8-9, he got 5.? something. good for us.

and anyone saying he should be brought back at any price aren't thinking. you'd seriously pay him 40mill a year and cut 60 other players to do it? oh, you wouldn't? then don't say you would.

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

[quote=NC_Skins;909152]I keep seeing the phrases [I]"No price is too much for Fletcher" or "he's worth a huge contract" and "What's he's done for the past 5 years"[/I] (my personal favorite) mentioned in this thread but none of you are logical about it.


First off, you have to remember this is a business. Second, you have to remember there is only a certain amount of resources a team can tie up on salaries.


Ok, once you grasp those two concepts, then you'll understand that paying a 37 year old linebacker huge sums of money isn't smart. I don't care if he is the leader of a team. I don't care if he is the face of the franchise. I don't care if he did lead the NFL in tackles. It's not what he has done, it's what he will do. I think history shows us quite well that 37+ linebackers really aren't going to produce at the level that they did 5 years ago. Do you actually think that Fletcher can cover RBs/TEs like he did 5 years ago? Not sure what team you were watching last year, but I recall Fletcher slow to a many of plays and it wasn't because of lack of effort or heart. It's his age, his speed and it sure isn't going to get better over the course of the next year. A 37 year old isn't going to beat a 23 year old RB on the edge. A 37 year old isn't going to keep up with a Gronkowski.

I understand you guys are huge fans of him and so am I. There isn't a person on this team that has been more valuable to this franchise than Fletcher. That doesn't mean you just throw tons of cash at him because of what he's meant to us. He got paid rewarding during his time here and will so on this next contract.

You think Fletcher meant more to our team than Peyton Manning meant to the Colts? They made a business decision (smart one) and so did we by not overpaying Fletcher. I'm very satisfied with the numbers that he signed for and think it's funny he could have gotten more had he not fired his agent. Talk about a huge backfire.

Let's put away all this talk about "hobbled" linebacker and raise our mugs to welcome a man back who's put it all on the line for this team even though many others haven't.[/quote]

excellent post :)

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

[quote=The Goat;909190]So what's your point about London's contract? He got less than he might have and deserves it? Or he deserves the bigger contract he (probably) could have gotten a few weeks ago?

Posts this long that don't go anywhere drive me to drink :drink[/quote]

I know! First NC says we paid to much for a old LB then at the end wants to stop talking Fletcher being hobbled and wants to toast a drink to him.

Did Witchy Poo write that post? Good god.

[IMG]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR72xEN_IjNSxnZggrT_ZTLvaspmA7DBXKUK1Y0qF7ZYbHhsrnGRA[/IMG]

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[quote=mredskins;909198]I know! First NC says we paid to much for a old LB [/quote]


Then neither one of you can read worth a damn. Show me where I said or even hinted that we paid too much for Fletcher?

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

[quote=NC_Skins;909199]Then neither one of you can read worth a damn. [B]Show me where I said or even hinted that we paid too much for Fletcher?[/B][/quote]

Well, duh ... right here:

[quote=NC_Skins;909152]You think Fletcher meant more to our team than Peyton Manning meant to the Colts? [B]They made a business decision (smart one) and so did we by not overpaying Fletcher. I'm very satisfied with the numbers that he signed for [/B]and think it's funny he could have gotten more had he not fired his agent. Talk about a huge backfire.[/quote]

umm, wait ...
<sarcasm font off>

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[B][I]I keep seeing the phrases "No price is too much for Fletcher" or "he's worth a huge contract" and "What's he's done for the past 5 years" (my personal favorite) mentioned in this thread but none of you are logical about it.


First off, you have to remember this is a business. Second, you have to remember there is only a certain amount of resources a team can tie up on salaries.[/I][/B]

This part implies we paid too much. Now un-bunch panties and resume your daily activities.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;909200]Well, duh ... right here:



umm, wait ...
<sarcasm font off>[/quote]

I think you are missing the point he starts off saying we paid too much then says we didn't at the end and we should cheer LF.

His post is very contradicting.

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

[quote=mredskins;909201][B][I]I keep seeing the phrases "No price is too much for Fletcher" or "he's worth a huge contract" and "What's he's done for the past 5 years" (my personal favorite) mentioned in this thread but none of you are logical about it.


First off, you have to remember this is a business. Second, you have to remember there is only a certain amount of resources a team can tie up on salaries.[/I][/B]

This part implies we paid too much. Now un-bunch panties and resume your daily activities.[/quote]




No it doesn't. It's a statement to some of the people arguing that no salary is too high and that he's worth whatever contract he wants. The fact that I said this solidifies it.

[quote]and so did we by not overpaying Fletcher. I'm very satisfied with the numbers that he signed for and think it's funny he could have gotten more had he not fired his agent. [/quote]

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

[quote=mredskins;909201][B][I]I keep seeing the phrases "No price is too much for Fletcher" or "he's worth a huge contract" and "What's he's done for the past 5 years" (my personal favorite) mentioned in this thread but none of you are logical about it.


First off, you have to remember this is a business. Second, you have to remember there is only a certain amount of resources a team can tie up on salaries.[/I][/B]

This part implies we paid too much. Now un-bunch panties and resume your daily activities.[/quote]

Noooo ... first part implied it was [I]possible[/I] to pay to much and then he says he's glad we didn't.

My panties not in a bunch, friend. Never were. In fact, others inability to get how the english language works always makes me laugh. Besides, NC and I often butt heads, just this once I thought I'd back him up. Mainly b/c he's right.

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[quote=mredskins;909204]I think you are missing the point he starts off saying we paid too much then says we didn't at the end and we should cheer LF.

His post is very contradicting.[/quote]

I disagree. It was long and contained more than one complete thought, but they were all consistent.

[I]c'est la vie[/I] - you say potaytoe, I say potahto. Does it matter? LF is resigned at good numbers. RGIII is on the way. Once again the offseason is looking good.

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My butt is too big for my panties to bunch. I guess I need bigger panties.

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;909206]Noooo ... first part implied it was [I]possible[/I] to pay to much and then he says he's glad we didn't.

[B]My panties not in a bunch, friend. Never were. In fact, others inability to get how the english language works always makes me laugh. Besides, NC and I often butt heads, just this once I thought I'd back him up. Mainly b/c he's right.[/B][/quote]

Well you should laugh at your self because I never said your panties were in a bunch. I was talking about NC.

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[quote=mredskins;909209]Well you should laugh at your self because I never said your panties were in a bunch. I was talking about NC.[/quote]

Much like your perception of me saying we overpaid for LF, it's a bit off on this as well.


[quote=mredskins;909204]I think you are missing the point he starts off saying we paid too much then says we didn't at the end and we should cheer LF.

His post is very contradicting.[/quote]

Nothing about that post was contradicting and I'm not even sure how you are coming up with that. /shrug


Oh well....moving on.

HOW ABOUT THAT RGIII!!!

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the draft cant come soon enough

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[quote=Chico23231;909211]the draft cant come soon enough[/quote]

I'll even one up that. The season can't come soon enough...lol

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I understand the fact that the NFL is a business and that Fletcher is a 37 year old undersized linebacker. But I do think that NC_Skins is undervalueing the importance of leadership in the clubhouse. Fletcher is the team's only leader.

Look at the Wizards and how they put John Wall immediately in as the clubhouse leader in his rookie year, didn't really work out. That can't happen with RGIII, you have to protect your investment. Now with Fletch on the team we can draft a MLB to learn from him. You can take a risk on a player like Vontaze Burfict because you have the leadership of London to help keep Burfict in line. For a losing team leadership comes at a premium. These aren't brainless droids like on Madden, you need someone to be a coach on the field and make plays on field, you need quality veterans.

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[quote=mredskins;909209]Well you should laugh at your self because I never said your panties were in a bunch. I was talking about NC.[/quote]

I laugh at myself allllll the time. I encourage others to laugh at me too. I am all about increasing the daily laughter in the world.

Why don't we get a bunch of panties and laugh at them until the season starts?

We all good? Is a group hug needed? C'mon ... bring it in guys.

I swear, sometimes I feel like I'm on a sports version of "The View".

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[IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TINMWtkf0ZM/T2YNPQGv6OI/AAAAAAAADug/yMnufcOlzw0/s1600/Group-Hug.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Lotus;909208]My butt is too big for my panties to bunch. I guess I need bigger panties.[/quote]

I can overnight these if you want:
[IMG]https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQz2uYr8ELoNjt0853vfAB0_PNhyKHazoQY66dC1LYkMhJFqd7r[/IMG]

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[quote=JoeRedskin;909218]I laugh at myself allllll the time. I encourage others to laugh at me too. I am all about increasing the daily laughter in the world.

[B]Why don't we get a bunch of panties and laugh at them until the season starts?
[/B]
We all good? Is a group hug needed? C'mon ... bring it in guys.

I swear, sometimes I feel like I'm on a sports version of "The View".[/quote]

Would you prefer these:
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[IMG]https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRFBAfwoTLP9NQNUxOXbKYPbH6ReKNMfBcEtHtEhaXF-EeRkLxHWg[/IMG]

or these:

[IMG]https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS-DdJ3lbESKGirUbw3tvqPAFyThkV1UOhi9HIOIZnha15f6lwRzw[/IMG]

yes google image search is a scary thing!

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Thongs or V-Strings.

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;909218]I laugh at myself allllll the time. I encourage others to laugh at me too. I am all about increasing the daily laughter in the world.

Why don't we get a bunch of panties and laugh at them until the season starts?

We all good? Is a group hug needed? C'mon ... bring it in guys.

I swear, sometimes I feel like I'm on a sports version of "The View".[/quote]

Gosh! I know I'm being a little emotional right now but I feel like we fight too much!

Re: London Fletcher re-signs with Redskins
 

[quote=NC_Skins;909152]I keep seeing the phrases [I]"No price is too much for Fletcher" or "he's worth a huge contract" and "What's he's done for the past 5 years"[/I] (my personal favorite) mentioned in this thread but none of you are logical about it.


First off, you have to remember this is a business. Second, you have to remember there is only a certain amount of resources a team can tie up on salaries.


Ok, once you grasp those two concepts, then you'll understand that paying a 37 year old linebacker huge sums of money isn't smart. I don't care if he is the leader of a team. I don't care if he is the face of the franchise. I don't care if he did lead the NFL in tackles. It's not what he has done, it's what he will do. I think history shows us quite well that 37+ linebackers really aren't going to produce at the level that they did 5 years ago. Do you actually think that Fletcher can cover RBs/TEs like he did 5 years ago? Not sure what team you were watching last year, but I recall Fletcher slow to a many of plays and it wasn't because of lack of effort or heart. It's his age, his speed and it sure isn't going to get better over the course of the next year. A 37 year old isn't going to beat a 23 year old RB on the edge. A 37 year old isn't going to keep up with a Gronkowski.

I understand you guys are huge fans of him and so am I. There isn't a person on this team that has been more valuable to this franchise than Fletcher. That doesn't mean you just throw tons of cash at him because of what he's meant to us. He got paid rewarding during his time here and will so on this next contract.

You think Fletcher meant more to our team than Peyton Manning meant to the Colts? They made a business decision (smart one) and so did we by not overpaying Fletcher. I'm very satisfied with the numbers that he signed for and think it's funny he could have gotten more had he not fired his agent. Talk about a huge backfire.

Let's put away all this talk about "hobbled" linebacker and raise our mugs to welcome a man back who's put it all on the line for this team even though many others haven't.[/quote]

Great post. I'm hoping they draft his replacement... and that person, whomever he is gets on the field this year. So when Fletch hangs it up we'll have someone ready.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;909215]I understand the fact that the NFL is a business and that Fletcher is a 37 year old undersized linebacker. But I do think that NC_Skins is undervalueing the importance of leadership in the clubhouse. [B]Fletcher is the team's only leader[/B].

Look at the Wizards and how they put John Wall immediately in as the clubhouse leader in his rookie year, didn't really work out. That can't happen with RGIII, you have to protect your investment. Now with Fletch on the team we can draft a MLB to learn from him. You can take a risk on a player like Vontaze Burfict because you have the leadership of London to help keep Burfict in line. For a losing team leadership comes at a premium. These aren't brainless droids like on Madden, you need someone to be a coach on the field and make plays on field, you need quality veterans.[/quote]

Sadly you might be right. But hopefully Kerrigan and Orakpo start to take over that role on defense...and of course RG3 on offense.