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[quote=BrudLee;909581]Hey there. Long time listener, 3,487th time caller.

There is no real advantage to having gained access to the schedule days or even weeks earlier than now. The teams are in constant flux. Preparing for last year's Saints would not only be pointless given their likely roster and coaching changes, but a waste of planning time given that we don't know what WE do well yet.[/quote]

OMG! It's a Squatch!!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;909735]OMG! It's a Squatch!![/quote]

There's a squatch in these woods...

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[quote=Giantone;909734]Post #25 in this thread.[/quote]

They did not get their schedule first is all I'm saying

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[quote=los panda;909616]dick trickle is the best of all time

dick trickle[/quote]

A town close to where I grew up had a resident named Dick Wonderlic...he owned a car dealership lol.

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[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/sports/nfl-schedule-makers-try-their-best-to-please-everybody.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all[/url]

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[URL="http://www.sportspickle.com/opinion/12280/the-17-worst-games-on-the-2012-nfl-schedule"]The 17 Worst Games on the 2012 NFL Schedule - SportsPickle Opinion[/URL]

Week 9's match up is kind of funny becasue some here speculate it should be a prime time game.

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[quote=mredskins;909930][URL="http://www.sportspickle.com/opinion/12280/the-17-worst-games-on-the-2012-nfl-schedule"]The 17 Worst Games on the 2012 NFL Schedule - SportsPickle Opinion[/URL]

Week 9's match up is kind of funny becasue some here speculate it should be a prime time game.[/quote]


[B]
Week 16

Rams at Buccaneers

Every year there are games that initially look bad when the schedule is released, but turn out to be important and exciting because both teams have surprisingly good seasons. This is not one of those games.[/B]


:laughing-:laughing-:laughing-

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[quote=SmootSmack;909924][URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/sports/nfl-schedule-makers-try-their-best-to-please-everybody.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all[/URL][/quote]

Excellent article, really gives a lot of great insight into how the schedule is made each year.

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[quote=mooby;909933]Excellent article, really gives a lot of great insight into how the schedule is made each year.[/quote]

It's a beast of a job. Working on scheduling was one of my most demanding, yet satisfying jobs ever

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[quote=SmootSmack;909944]It's a beast of a job. Working on scheduling was one of my most demanding, yet satisfying jobs ever[/quote]

What goes into it from ESPN's end? From the story, it sounds like ESPN puts in requests for what games it wants, and then the NFL decides who gets what games.

Also, not sure if you can answer this, but does the NFL decide on the weekly schedule first and then decide what games will be the primetime matchups?

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ESPN can request games, so can NFLN and NBC for Sunday Nights.

You'd think the games would go to the highest bidders. I think the league prefers the week's premier game to be on Sunday Nights, but ESPN does pay MUCH more per game than the other networks. Monday Night Football match-ups have not been great for a few years, so apparently the league is getting its way no matter how much someone spends for game rights.


ESPN pays $112,500,000 per game in a $1.9 billion per season deal. NBC, Fox and CBS pay just over $1 billion each season.

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[quote=mooby;909949]What goes into it from ESPN's end? From the story, it sounds like ESPN puts in requests for what games it wants, and then the NFL decides who gets what games.

Also, not sure if you can answer this, but does the NFL decide on the weekly schedule first and then decide what games will be the primetime matchups?[/quote]

Yeah ESPN will build out multiple scenarios/schedules. Taking into account various factors.

There is a lot of back and forth with ESPN and the league (and indirectly the other networks). For example, let's say the NFL tells NBC we want that Bucanneers vs. Falcons game in early October because ESPN working on renewing a deal with the cable affiliate in Tampa and we want to apply some pressure marketing and heavy advertising in October, then the NFL will come back to ESPN and say "that Ravens game you wanted in November, NBC wants that now in exchange for giving you the Tampa game."

Or Fox could say we've got no room on the schedule for a 1pm Dolphins game and Miami doesn't want it at 4pm because the Heat are already playing at home and traffic would be a mess, so the NFL puts them on the road that week and so on.

Ultimately, it's what the NFL wants to do. But there is a lot of back and forth negotiating.

There are also contractual obligations regarding prime time games. Some that are known, like max number of prime time games for each team. Others that are not as well known, such as geographic obligations.

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[quote=Monkeydad;909953]ESPN can request games, so can NFLN and NBC for Sunday Nights.

You'd think the games would go to the highest bidders. I think the league prefers the week's premier game to be on Sunday Nights, but ESPN does pay MUCH more per game than the other networks. Monday Night Football match-ups have not been great for a few years, so apparently the league is getting its way no matter how much someone spends for game rights.


ESPN pays $112,500,000 per game in a $1.9 billion per season deal. NBC, Fox and CBS pay just over $1 billion each season.[/quote]

Well the multi-billion dollar deal for ESPN involves a lot more than just games. ESPN has a lot more non-game programming than the other networks. Though, of course, games are what's most important

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Ross Tucker was talking about scheduling and he threw out some numbers, like computers churn out 40000 scenarios initially, then through additional criteria and stuff the number gets down to around 150 schedule scenarios that are individually mulled over until the final version is chosen. Does that sound about right SS? and if that is a 16 game season, how in the world do the other leagues with 100+ games per team per season, get their schedules made. Sounds like nightmares!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;909990]Ross Tucker was talking about scheduling and he threw out some numbers, like computers churn out 40000 scenarios initially, then through additional criteria and stuff the number gets down to around 150 schedule scenarios that are individually mulled over until the final version is chosen. Does that sound about right SS? and if that is a 16 game season, how in the world do the other leagues with 100+ games per team per season, get their schedules made. Sounds like nightmares![/quote]

From ESPN's end, there are no computer simulated scenarios. It's all people operated.

And yes, 100+ game seasons are insane. Tennis is particularly difficult.

At ESPN in particular, there are specific teams of people assigned to various sports as well as news and info.

So everybody will work on their own schedules and casually interact with other sport teams.

Then every Tuesday morning, we'd have a free for all meeting. Well not a free for all per se, but it can get intense. "I have to schedule an NBA doubleheader this Friday. But I have to put a NASCAR race on ESPN2 at 9pm. But PBA bought 2 hours of time for a bowling tournament. But I have to get 18 hours of tennis programming in this week and 55% has to be on ESPN or ESPN2. But we're expecting the NFL to make their announcement this Friday night so we have to be prepared to go all night with SportsCenter. And so on.

Lot of "fun" to work through all the scenarios.

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[quote=SmootSmack;909979]Well the multi-billion dollar deal for ESPN involves a lot more than just games. ESPN has a lot more non-game programming than the other networks. Though, of course, games are what's most important[/quote]
Yep, and rights to show the other networks' highlights too, correct?

Is the NFL Network a private enterprise or run by the league?

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[quote=Monkeydad;909999]Yep, and rights to show the other networks' highlights too, correct?

Is the NFL Network a private enterprise or run by the league?[/quote]

You'd be surprised as the limitations NFL had on ESPN prior to the new deal. Lot of seemingly minor stuff

technically run by the league

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[quote=The Goat;909500]WTF I don't see a Sunday night game!

It's a perfect schedule for our situation though like you guys said. We could be 6-2 even halfway through, on the other hand I'll say if we're worse than .500 at that point it should be a huge disappointment.[/quote]

[quote=tc2deuce]we are the only team in the NFC East that does not get a SNF game!!!!![/quote]

Good. Eff Redskins Sunday night games. And eff Redskins Monday night games too.

A man needs his beauty sleep anyway.

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[quote=SmootSmack;909944]It's a beast of a job. Working on scheduling was one of my most demanding, yet satisfying jobs ever[/quote]

How tough was it when you got something basically set in stone like Skins vs Cowboys for a Monday night, and then Jerrah calls back and says "I just signed Nickleback for a 5 night stand at Jerryworld for all the douchebags in Dallas, its basically our adopted hometown band. I must change the Monday night game b/c of this conflict."

Is it back to the drawing board or do you tell Jerry to go to hell? Or do you try to score some Nickleback tickets?

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LOL. It's basically back to the drawing board.

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[quote=SmootSmack;910376]LOL. It's basically back to the drawing board.[/quote]

really, so the ownership tend to have kinda the final say about things?

Can you divulge the most pissed you were about a scheduling conflict? Who were the worst to work with?

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[quote=Chico23231;910384]really, so the ownership tend to have kinda the final say about things?

Can you divulge the most pissed you were about a scheduling conflict? Who were the worst to work with?[/quote]

Well it's not like he just says this is how it's going to be. He (and all other owners) are considerate of all situations.

Every sport is different. All had various challenges

Women's college softball was a bitch

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I did not make this, but I'm sharing it (click to make huge):

[IMG]http://www.cattelandesign.com/uploads/4/8/3/0/4830481/redskinsschedule.jpg[/IMG]


[I]Credit goes to a member named wyopokes2 on [URL="http://boards.sportslogos.net/"]Chris Creamer's Sports Logos Community[/URL]
[/I]
Questionable player selection but he was going to good images rather than player names when selecting the images to use. GREAT WORK! He said he might try again with players Skins fans would like better later on. He's doing every team. I'll share if there's another future version.

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Bumping this thread rather than starting a new one. With preseason games over I wanted to look over the schedule again and predict wins/losses based on what we've seen so far. Here we go:

Week 1 at New Orleans: The Saints will play a very emotional game based on the off-season crap and recent storms. I expect us to get demolished week 1 but won't take it too hard. [B]Loss[/B]

Week 2 at St. Louis: [B]Win[/B]

Week 3 vs Cincinnati: [B]Win[/B]

Week 4 at Tampa: [B]Win[/B]

Week 5 vs Atlanta: [B]Loss[/B]

Week 6 vs Minnesota: [B]Win[/B]

Week 7 at NY Giants: [B]Loss[/B]

Week 8 at Pittsburgh: [B]Loss[/B]

Week 9 vs Carolian: [B]Win[/B]

Week 10: Bye

Week 11 vs Philly: [B]Win[/B]

Week 12 at Dallas: [B]Loss[/B]

Week 13 vs NY Giants: [B]Win[/B]

Week 14 vs Ravens: [B]Loss[/B]

Week 15 at Cleveland: [B]Win[/B]

Week 16 at Philly: [B]Loss[/B]

Week 17 vs Dallas: [B]Win[/B]

So I have us going 9-7 and think I was pretty conservative i.e. we should win those games. Maybe we eek out another win or two, which would be very impressive. 8-8 won't make me surly, but below .500 would be inexcusable given our roster talent and schedule.

Who's next?

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Week 1 at New Orleans: I think the Saints come out emotional, but the Skins D holds at first, and the lack of the Head Coach/play caller lets us keep it close. We open with a late [B]Win[/B]

Week 2 at St. Louis: [B]Win[/B]

Week 3 vs Cincinnati: [B]Win[/B]

Week 4 at Tampa: [B]Win[/B]

Week 5 vs Atlanta: [B]Loss[/B]

Week 6 vs Minnesota: [B]Loss[/B] Ponder and Peterson put on a nice display, while we RGIII is going through some tough lessons

Week 7 at NY Giants: [B]Win[/B] Giants begin there mid season drift, and Bob shows Osi his speed

Week 8 at Pittsburgh: [B]Loss[/B]

Week 9 vs Carolina: [B]Loss[/B] Can't quite handle the running qb yet

Week 10: Bye

Week 11 vs Philly: [B]Loss[/B] See Carolina

Week 12 at Dallas: [B]Win[/B] Dallas will be in full meltdown by now. Romo out, McGee (3rd string) starting.

Week 13 vs NY Giants: [B]Win[/B] Fans are starting to get the bandwagon going

Week 14 vs Ravens: [B]Loss[/B] Bandwagon falls apart LOL

Week 15 at Cleveland: [B]Win[/B]

Week 16 at Philly: [B]Loss[/B] Ugh

Week 17 vs Dallas: [B]Loss[/B] Dallas saves face keeps us out of wildcard

8-8 from me.

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Losing both games against Philly? Vick isn't in his prime anymore, by time it rolls around that we play them, I'd be surprised if he hasn't suffered at least 1 injury of some sort. The Eagles remind me of the Red Sox this season, stacking talent and for some reason never getting their act together.

We'll win at least one of those games.

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Week 1 at New Orleans: Emotional game for the Saints and they're arguably the best team we play this year. [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 2 at St. Louis: Bradford meet RG3. [B]WIN[/B]

Week 3 vs Cincinnati: I'd say we actually compare favorably to the Bengals.. Close game, but we end up winning. [B]WIN[/B]

Week 4 at Tampa: We're better. [B]WIN[/B]

Week 5 vs Atlanta: Matty Ice along with White and Jones absolutely destroy our secondary. [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 6 vs Minnesota: No Joe Webb this year. [B]WIN
[/B]
Week 7 at NY Giants: Split. [B]LOSS
[/B]
Week 8 at Pittsburgh: Brown, Wallace and Sanders will destroy our secondary. [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 9 vs Carolian: Newton completely dumbied us last year. Will it change? [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 10: Bye

Week 11 vs Philly: Split. [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 12 at Dallas: Split. [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 13 vs NY Giants: Split. [B]WIN
[/B]
Week 14 vs Ravens: A far superior team. [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 15 at Cleveland: Easiest win of the season. [B]WIN[/B]

Week 16 at Philly: Split. [B]WIN[/B]

Week 17 vs Dallas: Split. [B]WIN[/B]

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Every game: WIN

19-0 bitches.

Go big or go home.

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[quote=Lotus;935697]Every game: WIN

19-0 bitches.

Go big or go home.[/quote]

This is when irish comes in and says 0-19

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[quote=IrMitchell;935681]Week 1 at New Orleans: Emotional game for the Saints and they're arguably the best team we play this year. [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 2 at St. Louis: Bradford meet RG3. [B]WIN[/B]

Week 3 vs Cincinnati: I'd say we actually compare favorably to the Bengals.. Close game, but we end up winning. [B]WIN[/B]

Week 4 at Tampa: We're better. [B]WIN[/B]

Week 5 vs Atlanta: Matty Ice along with White and Jones absolutely destroy our secondary. [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 6 vs Minnesota: No Joe Webb this year. [B]WIN
[/B]
Week 7 at NY Giants: Split. [B]LOSS
[/B]
Week 8 at Pittsburgh: Brown, Wallace and Sanders will destroy our secondary. [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 9 vs Carolian: Newton completely dumbied us last year. Will it change? [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 10: Bye

Week 11 vs Philly: Split. [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 12 at Dallas: Split. [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 13 vs NY Giants: Split. [B]WIN
[/B]
Week 14 vs Ravens: A far superior team. [B]LOSS[/B]

Week 15 at Cleveland: Easiest win of the season. [B]WIN[/B]

Week 16 at Philly: Split. [B]WIN[/B]

Week 17 vs Dallas: Split. [B]WIN[/B][/quote]

You're predicting a mid-season, 5-game losing streak? Ouch.

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anyone know if this story checks out? where is the legit source?

[url=http://was.scout.com/3/futureopponents.html]Scout.com: Redskins Future Opponents[/url]

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Opponents are known pretty far in advance

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If wanted to, you could pretty much figure our schedule out for the next 20 years.

Each year all the teams of a division play all the teams of two other divisions - one in the AFC and one the NFC (so we will play every team in the league at least once every three years). It simply rotates by division. The only two teams on our schedule that aren't predetermined are the NFC teams from the "off" divisions. Those teams are determined by finish (firsts play firsts, seconds play seconds, etc.).

So for example, next year since we play the entire NFC Central, we will play the first place finishers in the NFC West and NFC South. ;)

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how is home/away decided?

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[quote=los panda;940055]how is home/away decided?[/quote]

I'm not exactly sure how the home and away is scheduled other than because you play all 4 teams in the other 2 divisions, you will play 2 of them at home and two away in each case. Then obviously for the two teams that finished in the same place as you (say 1st place teams) you get one at home and one away. That's 5 home and 5 away = 10 games, the other 6 games are the 3 homes againts your division and 3 aways = 16 games.

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Just alternates. Look at the schedule. We played GB and Minn home in 2010, will play them away in 2013 and home again in 2016. Same for AFC but that is on an eight year rotation (4 Divisions to play as opposed to 3) - so this year we play Baltimore and Cinci home and, in 2016, we will play them away, then home again in 2020.

The "off" Division rivals rotate home and away in the years we do not play their division. This year we play the similarly ranked NFC West team (Rams) away, next year we will play the similarly ranked NFC West team at home (Niners on Monday night!), and the following year we play the entire division with Arizona and St. Louis home. (Away, Home, Division, Away, Home, Division).

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So, in the course of 7 years, a fan can see every team in the league play in the home stadium at least once.

Also, I was wrong in my earlier post, it takes 4 years - not 3 - to play every team in the league.

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Before the season, I was dreading the stretch of schedule we're entering now.

After the Vikings game, it was supposed to be a daunting task.

Suddenly, it looks, well, "not so bad".

I'm not saying it will be easy but these teams that were supposed to be contenders are looking very vulnerable and are really struggling.

We might just have an amazing run coming up:

Giants - we can do this!
Steelers - suddenly a .500 team that looks like they are aging and their run is over
Panthers - horrible.
Eagles - Vick has become a turnover machine and they can't win games they should win.
Cowboys - seem to be choking earlier than usual. Dez is starting to cause issues.
Giants - above
Ravens - solid but a few huge injuries this week.
Browns - playing everyone tough but this is still a 1-win team.
Eagles - above
Cowboys - above



I can see us finishing above .500. Say we split the division games, I can see us winning more than half of the Browns, Panthers, Ravens and Steelers games. I could see us winning all but that Ravens game maybe.

9-7 is looking very possible. We could be contending for a wild card but I'm not sure we can do that...the NFC has so many good teams this year.