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[quote=fanarchist;915676]There is much hope to be gleaned from this prospect, although it does leave RG3 open to more potential injury scenarios[/quote]

Even though we have a quality backup it would be a mistake to [I]depend[/I] on the option because of the high injury risk. I think it could be used effectively as long as RG3 is not taking a lot of hits.

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[quote=SmootSmack;915672]The author is an occasional member of this board so if he wants to he's more than welcome to expand on his thoughts here[/quote]

If he chooses not to for whatever reason perhaps someone who knows him can get his sources. I'm interested in reading the actual person's(s) take who saw Cousins out-playing RG3 in 7 on 7.

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[quote=imaskin4life;915684]If he chooses not to for whatever reason perhaps someone who knows him can get his sources. I'm interested in reading the actual person's(s) take who saw Cousins out-playing RG3 in 7 on 7.[/quote]

I agree. If you're going to put information like that out there, the least you can do is back it up, or if it's just your personal opinion, put that out there. My unnamed source tells me that putting unsubstantiated claims out there is not well received in the journalism business.

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[quote=imaskin4life;915682]Even though we have a quality backup it would be a mistake to [I]depend[/I] on the option because of the high injury risk. I think it could be used effectively as long as RG3 is not taking a lot of hits.[/quote]

Just to clarify. I'm not saying we should use the option as our primary package, or alter the system completely, but instead offer more option looks to disturb defensives predictive abilities. I don't believe the option will be used (if it is at all), as a systemic staple. Moreover what I was eluding to in saying it's a hopeful prospect applies more to the coaching staffs willingness to adopt a less popular package in order to facilitate, and reinforce the strengths of the personel. The hopefulness spawns from the logic that this microcosm could eventually permeate the overall mentality.

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Where did Mike Shanahan hint at the option (3 times)?

Had a busy weekend and hadn't heard this.....

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[quote=30gut;915689]Where did Mike Shanahan hint at the option (3 times)?

Had a busy weekend and hadn't heard this.....[/quote]

Go to redskins.com and listen to his presser.

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I thought RG3 said he is a pocket passer, that is his strength. Not a run a scrambling QB running the option. Let him learn the offense first. Once he gets injuried running the ball, I dont want to hear the complaining. U know why the option isnt run in the NFL?

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[quote=30gut;915689]Where did Mike Shanahan hint at the option (3 times)?

Had a busy weekend and hadn't heard this.....[/quote]

here is the actual 30 minute interview that reporters are referencing after rookie mini camp. check it out.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Mike-Shanahan-5-6/1e24d0ab-6dc6-4107-b0ad-5144bc62080c]Mike Shanahan: 5-6[/url]

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[quote=fanarchist;915686]Just to clarify. I'm not saying we should use the option as our primary package, or alter the system completely, but instead offer more option looks to disturb defensives predictive abilities. I don't believe the option will be used (if it is at all), as a systemic staple. Moreover what I was eluding to in saying it's a hopeful prospect applies more to the coaching staffs willingness to adopt a less popular package in order to facilitate, and reinforce the strengths of the personel. The hopefulness spawns from the logic that this microcosm could eventually permeate the overall mentality.[/quote]

If it can be used in a way that 1.) Our QB is not taking too many hits and 2.) defenses fear it enough to adjust to it (like you said) then I think it could be used effectively and really screw up pass coverages.

I agree, if coach Shanahan is sincere (I believe he is) it is exciting to hear his willingness to tweak the offense to use all of RG3's weapons.

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Kinda didn't plan on listening to 30 minute interview on a [I]rookie[/I] mini-camp just to hear a couple of sentences.
Could someone just tell me what he said or tell me where he spoke about running the option?

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[quote=Chico23231;915691]I thought RG3 said he is a pocket passer, that is his strength. Not a run a scrambling QB running the option. Let him learn the offense first. Once he gets injuried running the ball, I dont want to hear the complaining. U know why the option isnt run in the NFL?[/quote]

RGIII is a pocket passer primarily. I'm not a big fan of running the option in the NFL - because defenses are much too quick for an option offense to be very successful. Maybe in a very limited, occasional option play. I'm assuming when Shanahan talks about tweaking the offense to fit it with what Griffin does the best, then he's talking about putting in more shotgun, spread type of plays rather than option runs.

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[quote=Chico23231;915691]I thought RG3 said he is a pocket passer, that is his strength. Not a run a scrambling QB running the option. Let him learn the offense first. Once he gets injuried running the ball, I dont want to hear the complaining. U know why the option isnt run in the NFL?[/quote]

I agree -He is a quarterback with "olympic speed". If you watch him run he runs more like a track guy IMO than a RB -- more straight up speed and less "shake n bake". He is going to need to master the "slide" and getting out of bounds when he runs to avoid unnecessary hits.

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[quote=30gut;915701]Kinda didn't plan on listening to 30 minute interview on a [I]rookie[/I] mini-camp just to hear a couple of sentences.
Could someone just tell me what he said or tell me where he spoke about running the option?[/quote]

Quit being a lazy fan ;)

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[quote=30gut;915701]Kinda didn't plan on listening to 30 minute interview on a [I]rookie[/I] mini-camp just to hear a couple of sentences.
Could someone just tell me what he said or tell me where he spoke about running the option?[/quote]

Here is one instance, u lazy fan lol

Coach Shanahan at 23:55 - "...the fun part about Robert, the reason why we gave up what we gave up, is that he can do some things I believe no one has done. The dropping back, play action, quarterback keeps, option, and we'll see what he is comfortable with as time goes on..."

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you know what would scare defenses more from the Skins? Basic, competent decision making from the QB position.

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[quote=imaskin4life;915709]Here is one instance, u lazy fan lol

Coach Shanahan at 23:55 - "...the fun part about Robert, the reason why we gave up what we gave up, is that he can do some things I believe no one has done. The dropping back, play action, quarterback keeps, option, and we'll see what he is comfortable with as time goes on..."[/quote]

Mentions it around the 9 minute mark. Talks about he can run the option and how he believes only Cam and Tebow can run it well in the NFL

He does stress though that RGIII is a passer first, but with other skills

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[quote=Chico23231;915711]you know what would scare defenses more from the Skins? Basic, competent decision making from the QB position.[/quote]

Like! :thumb:

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Sexy Rexy's reaction when he asked coach Shanahan what are the chances if he will ever be the the starter again.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA]Dumb and Dumber 'There's a Chance' - YouTube[/url]

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-veterans-pleased-that-shanahan-has-named-robert-griffin-iii-the-starter-at-qb/2012/05/07/gIQALNxZ8T_blog.html]Redskins veterans pleased that Shanahan has named Robert Griffin III the starter at QB - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

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[quote=Defensewins;915717]Sexy Rexy's reaction when he asked coach Shanahan what are the chances if he will ever be the the starter again.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA]Dumb and Dumber 'There's a Chance' - YouTube[/url][/quote]


That's a classic. :laughing2 I could really see that happening/happened.

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You do not give up what we gave up and then let them watch from the sidelines. RG3 is the starter. Period.

Reading NFL defenses? This is the highest level folks! No college team, especially those crappy big 12 defenses, will run the complex defenses that NFL teams do. NFL teams disguise things to try to confuse young QB's and they will confuse RG3 just like they would any young rookie QB coming into the league. From everything I have heard about RG3, he is a film rat and that will help with these complex defenses. He will need some time and I am 100% positive he will pick up things on tape as his career goes along and he will be less and less confused the more he plays.

Man to man, cover 2, 3 or 4 or zone blitzes its not rocket science. RG3 will master them all!

[QUOTE=fanarchist;915686]Just to clarify. I'm not saying we should use the option as our primary package, or alter the system completely, but instead offer more option looks to disturb defensives predictive abilities. I don't believe the option will be used (if it is at all), as a systemic staple. Moreover what I was eluding to in saying it's a hopeful prospect applies more to the coaching staffs willingness to adopt a less popular package in order to facilitate, and reinforce the strengths of the personel. The hopefulness spawns from the logic that this microcosm could eventually permeate the overall mentality.[/QUOTE]

Dude. Seriously? This is a football forum not a PhD program. Using a thesaurus doesn't make your points anymore valid or correct than others'.

You could just say you "think the option will be used to keep defenses honest, and using the option would suit our team's strength. Hopefully Shanny continues to employ strategies and tactics based on our personnel." Much more succinct and to the point rather than unclear jargon. Might make you seem less pretentious too.

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[quote=hooskins;915736]Dude. Seriously? This is a football forum not a PhD program. Using a thesaurus doesn't make your points anymore valid or correct than others'.

You could just say you "think the option will be used to keep defenses honest, and using the option would suit our team's strength. Hopefully Shanny continues to employ strategies and tactics based on our personnel." Much more succinct and to the point rather than unclear jargon. Might make you seem less pretentious too.[/quote]

Plus he spelled personnel as personel hehehe

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y'all talk funny

[QUOTE=hooskins;915736]Dude. Seriously? This is a football forum not a PhD program. Using a thesaurus doesn't make your points anymore valid or correct than others'.

You could just say you "think the option will be used to keep defenses honest, and using the option would suit our team's strength. Hopefully Shanny continues to employ strategies and tactics based on our personnel." Much more succinct and to the point rather than unclear jargon. Might make you seem less pretentious too.[/QUOTE]

Honestly I find it refreshing that someone on here can write above a thrid grade level.

[QUOTE=mredskins;915742]Honestly I find it refreshing that someone on here can write above a thrid grade level.[/QUOTE]

Ms.Jones said I did good when i write at third grade, ain't that tru?

Sent from my Leappad tablet using Kindertalk 2

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[quote=mredskins;915742]Honestly I find it refreshing that someone on here can write above a thrid grade level.[/quote]

Ah thrid grade, that sure brings back some memories. :smashfrea

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U got a pretty mouth, I like the way U talk.

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[quote=hooskins;915736]Dude. Seriously? This is a football forum not a PhD program. Using a thesaurus doesn't make your points anymore valid or correct than others'.

You could just say you "think the option will be used to keep defenses honest, and using the option would suit our team's strength. Hopefully Shanny continues to employ strategies and tactics based on our personnel." Much more succinct and to the point rather than unclear jargon. Might make you seem less pretentious too.[/quote][YT]Ev1Vsnf6LGs[/YT]

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;915744]Ms.Jones said I did good when i write at third grade, ain't that tru?

Sent from my Leappad tablet using Kindertalk 2[/QUOTE]

For the record I was joking.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;915744]Ms.Jones said I did good when i write at third grade, ain't that tru?

Sent from my Leappad tablet using Kindertalk 2[/quote]lol

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[quote=The Goat;915740]Plus he spelled personnel as personel hehehe[/quote]

I also misused the word elude. Should have been allude, but who's counting.

@hooskins, I don't think the words I use validate my opinion anymore than anyone elses, that's simply the way I write, and have always written since I've been on this site. But your response indicates that you understand, to some degree, what I was getting at, so why don't we talk content, instead of personal attacks and context. I mean this is a "football forum".

[QUOTE=fanarchist;915762]I also misused the word elude. Should have been allude, but who's counting.

@hooskins, I don't think the words I use validate my opinion anymore than anyone elses, that's simply the way I write, and have always written since I've been on this site. But your response indicates that you understand, to some degree, what I was getting at, so why don't we talk content, instead of personal attacks and context. I mean this is a "football forum".[/QUOTE]

I understand your points to the nth degree, not just to some degree, my friend. I just think the way you "write" them makes you come off as a wanabee snob. That's all.

All that being said, I agree with your RG3 related points (running limited option, mentality, etc.).

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[quote=hooskins;915736]Dude. Seriously? This is a football forum not a PhD program. Using a thesaurus doesn't make your points anymore valid or correct than others'.

You could just say you "think the option will be used to keep defenses honest, and using the option would suit our team's strength. Hopefully Shanny continues to employ strategies and tactics based on our personnel." Much more succinct and to the point rather than unclear jargon. Might make you seem less pretentious too.[/quote]

I'm sure glad you said that. Much more clear, concise, and sufficient.

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[quote=The Goat;915707]Quit being a lazy fan ;)[/quote]lol, you got me. (but if i'm gonna be called lazy I would like to think I'm quite thorough)
Admittedly I don't consume every media sound bite.
And interviews from a unpadded [I]rookie[/I] mini-camp wouldn't normally break my inertia because there normally fluff.
But being that they mentioned [B][I][COLOR="Olive"]option[/COLOR][/I][/B] my interest is piqued being that there's a thread practically devoted to the possibility of option and more specifically zone read in this offense. (it also has other speculations about our future offense).
If anyone would like to discuss the possibiliites for option football within this thread; please feel free as I get bored updating/responding to my own posts:

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/47172-new-look-offense-same-but-better-6.html#post905681[/url]



But I promise scout's honor I'll listen to the whole thing manana.:yeahright

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IMO it seemed as though Shanny was simply saying they would look to take advantage of what RGIII brings to the field. I would not take what he said as that we Re definitely goin to use the option just that it is an option givin our qb's skill set. I tend to think we haven't seen coach make changes to our offense based on that because we have not had a qb that warranted such.

As far as the ability to read defenses that will take RGiii some time to get down and I don't think we have a qb on the roster that will be able to diagnose a defense better than RG III. I am not trying to get to excited but RG III's football IQ maybe higher than his skill set which could make for one hell of a scary player. If he stays healthy he could change the game. These next few years could be one hell of a rise for our team.

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[quote=SmootSmack;915713]Mentions it around the 9 minute mark. Talks about he can run the option and how he believes only Cam and Tebow can run it well in the NFL

He does stress though that RGIII is a passer first, but with other skills[/quote]

[quote=imaskin4life;915709]Here is one instance, u lazy fan lol

Coach Shanahan at 23:55 - "...the fun part about Robert, the reason why we gave up what we gave up, is that he can do some things I believe no one has done. The dropping back, play action, quarterback keeps, option, and we'll see what he is comfortable with as time goes on..."[/quote]Thank you fellas:food-smil

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[quote=hooskins;915736]Dude. Seriously? This is a football forum not a PhD program. Using a thesaurus doesn't make your points anymore valid or correct than others'.

You could just say you "think the option will be used to keep defenses honest, and using the option would suit our team's strength. Hopefully Shanny continues to employ strategies and tactics based on our personnel." Much more succinct and to the point rather than unclear jargon. Might make you seem less pretentious too.[/quote]

Yeah!! How about next time you talk like the rest of us dumb Americans!!



/facepalm

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[quote=hooskins;915769]I understand your points to the nth degree, not just to some degree, my friend. I just think the way you "write" them makes you come off as a wanabee snob. That's all.

All that being said, I agree with your RG3 related points (running limited option, mentality, etc.).[/quote]

If you understood fully you would have recognized that I was using certain words, not to come off as snobbish, or elitist, but to emphasise detail in my perspective without having to go into a lengthy diatribe. I was actually attemting to be more respectful of my fellow posters. Either way we haven't yet fully embarked on a 1984 scenario, so I'll use my expression however I deem fit, and this will be the last time I defend, and justify it, especially to someone who is trying to replace my thoughts, and words with his own.

thanks for getting back on topic though.

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[quote=fanarchist;915852]If you understood fully you would have recognized that I was using certain words, not to come off as snobbish, or elitist, but to emphasise detail in my perspective without having to go into a lengthy diatribe. I was actually attemting to be more respectful of my fellow posters. Either way we haven't yet fully embarked on a 1984 scenario, so I'll use my expression however I deem fit, and this will be the last time I defend, and justify it, especially to someone who is trying to replace my thoughts, and words with his own.

thanks for getting back on topic though.[/quote]you misspell enough words to keep them happy, i don't know why they cramped their pants