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No need going backwards. Cousins backs up RGIII or starts.

[QUOTE=RGIII;951502]No need going backwards. Cousins backs up RGIII or starts.[/QUOTE]

Im not sure that i would consider putting the more experienced qb who knows the offense better going backwards. If the season was out of reach than yes lets see what cousins has got. Not now.


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Much rather have Cousins.. Reason why you drafted him.

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[quote=punch it in;951444]You actually started it about the game and hoping RG-3 would play this weekend with a link to the article about his concussion. Did you think that was not going to lead to talk about his concussion?[/quote]

Yeah, I didn't realize we had so many professional doctors before I made the thread, and it made more sense to start the game thread with information about the upcoming game then make a thread about RG3 and if he will play.

[QUOTE=Bucket;951514]Much rather have Cousins.. Reason why you drafted him.[/QUOTE]

I realize we drafted him to ultimately back up RG3. Dont think anyone was thinking week six though. Im more concerned with our immediate season than i am with kirk cousins development or future Rite now id rather go with what i know we have in Grossman and the possibility of good rex than someone who is still wet behind the ears.


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I don't really watch college football. Is Cousin's mobile? We need a mobile QB to score points consistently, and Rex can't waddle away from pressure to save his life.

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[quote=The Goat;951537]I don't really watch college football. Is Cousin's mobile? We need a mobile QB to score points consistently, and Rex can't waddle away from pressure to save his life.[/quote]

yeah hes mobile enough - definitley more so than Rex, and I think that one day he is going to be a better qb than Rex - just not this Sunday.

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[quote=punch it in;951534]I realize we drafted him to ultimately back up RG3. Dont think anyone was thinking week six though. Im more concerned with our immediate season than i am with kirk cousins development or future Rite now id rather go with what i know we have in Grossman and the possibility of good rex than someone who is still wet behind the ears.


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Well i would rather give Cousins the experience now, and he be ready to fill shoes sooner then later right? What's he got to learn as the 3rd string? He needs to be ready now, and to be honest.. He looked just as good Rex did all last season against the Falcons.

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Kirk Cousins was projected to be a 2nd round pick. How he fell to the 4th round no one knows. Mike Shanahan did the right thing in selecting him. He was too good to pass up when he was available. In conjunction with RG3's concussion, it was a wise move for the Redskins to select Cousins when they got the opportunity.

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[quote=punch it in;951427]Wow -that sounds like some good ole ES stuff rite there.
Classic - never watch football - close the thread??? lol
All im saying is I am sure there was some thought about playing/not playing him this week as well there should be.
To dismiss the fact that he suffered a concussion because he is not as fast as a race car is crazy and over the top.

I never said I feel so strongly about anything Im just making some points. Did I say I dont think he should play? No. I said it is not an idiotic thought like you guys are making it out to be.[/quote]


I don't think ANYBODY is dismissing anything in regards to RGIII's discussion. However, relating a concussion from a driver who is accelerating over 100mph and slamming into other solid objects to a QB getting hit by another player is comparing apples to oranges.

What we are saying is, LET THE INDEPENDENT DOCTORS decide. Keeping him out a "extra" week isn't going to do jack shit if he's cleared to play this week. If his concussion was mild or minor, I see no problems if he passes the tests and some qualified expert clears him. So if they don't have a problem with it, why should you?

That bit about feeling strongly about it then stop watching football didn't translate as well as I wanted so disregard that part.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;951542]Kirk Cousins was projected to be a 2nd round pick. How he fell to the 4th round no one knows. Mike Shanahan did the right thing in selecting him. He was too good to pass up when he was available. In conjunction with RG3's concussion, it was a wise move for the Redskins to select Cousins when they got the opportunity.[/quote]

Everyone with a lick of sense felt the exact same way you do the moment Cousins was picked. It really irked me how many people in the media were criticizing the moveat the time, saying we shoudl have selected a lineman and/or suggesting that we were creating a quarterback controvery

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Man, the Redskins really need a win this weekend. To think they might beat the Giants or the Steelers on the road the next couple of weeks would be really optimistic.

If they are not careful, they are going to go back into that category of playing meaningless games for the rest of the year as early as October. I think they can beat the Panther before the Bye in Week 9, but if they loose 3 more before then, none of us will care. Come on Skins!

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what kind of a leader is london fletcher? does he inspire the defense?

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i think hes a great leader

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Fletch is a great leader. He can't give the secondary more talent.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;951576]Everyone with a lick of sense felt the exact same way you do the moment Cousins was picked. It really irked me how many people in the media were criticizing the moveat the time, saying we shoudl have selected a lineman and/or suggesting that we were creating a quarterback controvery[/quote]

That's because those in the media are stupid people half of the time. Mike Shanahan knows what he's doing. Rex Grossman is a journeyman quarterback who can be a decent backup, but Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan knows that Grossman won't be around forever. Might as well draft a quarterback. Shanahan took the best one available.

That's human nature to want to talk about a situation or make a situation out to be a much bigger deal than it actually is. That's the media for you.

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[quote=NC_Skins;951548]I don't think ANYBODY is dismissing anything in regards to RGIII's discussion.[B][I] However, relating a concussion from a driver who is accelerating over 100mph and slamming into other solid objects to a QB getting hit by another player is comparing apples to oranges.[/I][/B]

What we are saying is, LET THE INDEPENDENT DOCTORS decide. Keeping him out a "extra" week isn't going to do jack shit if he's cleared to play this week. If his concussion was mild or minor, I see no problems if he passes the tests and some qualified expert clears him. So if they don't have a problem with it, why should you?

That bit about feeling strongly about it then stop watching football didn't translate as well as I wanted so disregard that part.[/quote]

From the research I could find thats not true,if you can find research different please post it.From what Ive found football players hit by a hard tackle face the same g's as a race car driver in a crash.Of course every crash and or tackle would be different,but they are in the same ballpark.

"According to a Virginia Tech study, a tackle like Trufant's probably caused Lewis's head to accelerate in his helmet at 30 to 60 g's. VT researchers gather data with the Head Impact Telemetry System, which employs sensors and wireless transmitters in helmets. "We see 100-g impacts all the time," says Stefan Duma, director of the university's Center for Injury Biomechanics, "and several over 150 g's."

Read more: Football Physics: The Anatomy of a Hit - Popular Mechanics
[url=http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/sports/physics/4212171]Football Physics: The Anatomy of a Hit - Popular Mechanics[/url]

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[quote=htownskinfan;951624]From the research I could find thats not true,if you can find research different please post it.From what Ive found football players hit by a hard tackle face the same g's as a race car driver in a crash.Of course every crash and or tackle would be different,but they are in the same ballpark.

"According to a Virginia Tech study, a tackle like Trufant's probably caused Lewis's head to accelerate in his helmet at 30 to 60 g's. VT researchers gather data with the Head Impact Telemetry System, which employs sensors and wireless transmitters in helmets. "We see 100-g impacts all the time," says Stefan Duma, director of the university's Center for Injury Biomechanics, "and several over 150 g's."

Read more: Football Physics: The Anatomy of a Hit - Popular Mechanics
[URL="http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/sports/physics/4212171"]Football Physics: The Anatomy of a Hit - Popular Mechanics[/URL][/quote]

That's interesting stuff. Seems like common sense though too.

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RG3 good to go...team being very vague on whether Garcon is though

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[quote=SmootSmack;951631]RG3 good to go...team being very vague on whether Garcon is though[/quote]

whats the deal with his injury? this is getting ridiculous with Garcon

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Yeah, I don't know what's going on to be honest

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[quote=SmootSmack;951633]Yeah, I don't know what's going on to be honest[/quote]

So disappointing.

Was he injury prone at Indy? I don't remember him being.

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Good to hear on RGIII, though I really hope they scheme to protect him well all game long (I know that's on him too). When you have a QB with his accuracy, let him drop back and pick the defense apart!!

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[url=http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/10/need-to-know-do-the-redskins-third-down-issues-matter.html]Need to Know: Do the Redskins' third down issues matter? - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

[url=http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/10/first-down-issues-lead-to-third-down-problems.html]First down issues lead to third-down problems - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

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RG3 is good to go!!! Lets run him 40 times and really test that concussion!! Wooo Baby!!

I'm sure griff will ball out this week! I'm expecting a saints like game for him. 3 tds total

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yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa wohooooooooooooooo 30 options this week!@!@$:$L@"#L"VL!LCL!

thanks kyle

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Why would we care if RGIII playes so soon. By the time the affects from concussions hit him he will be retired and just a past memory. If he can spell his name (short version) he should be on the field playing. My customers don't care about the side affects from my job why should we worry about his?

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we need this win! i have a feeling our D will play well like last week but this week... get more 3rd down stops and turnovers..

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[quote=mredskins;951634]So disappointing.

Was he injury prone at Indy? I don't remember him being.[/quote]played in all 16 games only once, last season. has missed exactly 2 games in every other season (including this season).

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[quote=Meks;951655]yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa wohooooooooooooooo 30 options this week!@!@$:$L@"#L"VL!LCL!

thanks kyle[/quote]

What?

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[quote=skinsguy;951188]Since the season is obviously over with a 2-3 record and 11 more games to play, maybe we should just sit RGIII out the rest of the season. Heck, we might want to sit him next year too just to make sure.[/quote]

I concur, we should sit him till we have another 1st round pick. Can't wait to see RGIII in 2015.

I actually originally thought he should sit right after the game/Monday but everything we hear is that he is fine and doing well. Play 'em, and tell him to get the hell out of bounds.

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[quote=Chico23231;951632]whats the deal with his injury? this is getting ridiculous with Garcon[/quote]

He keeps running on an injured foot that never fully healed and therefore it stays damaged

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[quote=44ever;951176]Why would you want him to play??? If the Skins play RGIII this week then we need to have fear and hatred in the staff. You don't put the kid in after only 1 week of a concussion. Let him sit a heal, thats why we have Cousins. I know we are desperate but playing Griff this week would be a bad decision...[/quote]

He passed all the test bro he is fine. Next time he takes off to run he better get down or get out of bounce. RGIII did not need to take that hit he should have thrown the ball in the stands. All rookies have to learn on the fly.

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[quote=44ever;951277]I never said the season was over. But if you actually think the Skins are playing for 1st place , maybe you have the concussion...

Skins are going nowhere this season, maybe 2-3 years, maybe.[/quote]

Skins going knowwhere this ? So tell me how many teams are going to win the Super Bowl this season? Let me tell you it's 1 team and the rest are all losers because you play the game to win a Super Bowl.

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One more day..

Ill be watching Kenny Vaccaro from Texas play today. He's a safety prospect i'm hoping we look at for the Redskins.

[url=http://www.texassports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/vaccaro_kenny00.html]MackBrown-TexasFootball.com - Official website of the Texas Longhorns - Texas Football[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;951659]What?[/quote]

Was kidding about the possibility of kyle calling 30plays options on sunday

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Redskins are going to need to win me quiet a few games for me to forget about that heartbreaking Nats loss last night...damn that stings still!

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I feel you. Today I get to watch the Hokies inevitably lose to f-ing Duke. Yay sports. :(

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We are gonna lose 20-16. Our O been regessing these past two weeks slowly.