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Bucket 10-15-2012 03:47 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;952674]Damn briscoe would have had a big catch and maybe score he was pretty open[/quote]

Yep and a lot of Redskins Nation wanted to see him on the field now, this is why you take their opinions with a grain of salt. Im not calling him off yet though. Hankerson dropped a few head scratchers and hes coming together as a possession WR.

Tired of seeing the "Fire This guy" after our best win of the season. Everyone is screaming for Hasletts head, but still dont realize that we have two safeties that wouldnt be starting for any other team in the NFL right now, and we thought we could sugar coat it with a great pass rush but we lost one of our best pass rushers.

Im not covering for Haslett because hes obviously not perfect, but nobody is perfect and not every play call is perfect.

Btw.. people can complain about our "college style" offense but its pretty much unstoppable and a hybrid of something nobody has ever seen. Its mostly possible with RG3 and Kyle/Mike did and awesome job this season coming up with this scheme. I enjoy watching it.

I rewatched a lot of the game and the Vikings picked their poison yesterday. They want to stop Alfred "Bently" Morris and they did for the most part but RG3 showed he can beat you with his arm and legs as well.

Most important thing today for me was not defense, offense, special teams...

6-12 on 3rd downs

VegasSkinsFan 10-15-2012 03:50 AM

[QUOTE=punch it in;952676]You guys are talking about his long td? I agree. It looked to me like he saw the opening and tucked the ball and took off. I think it was not a designed play.


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I'm thinking the same thing. The receivers looked like they were running routes instead of blocking.

JoeRedskin 10-15-2012 06:02 AM

[QUOTE=Deivybaby;952657]Smoot any updates on haslett getting fired ????and any trades before deadline on defense or sonething. We need bmerriweather at SS[/QUOTE]

:doh:
We beat a 4-1 team by 12 points. No one is getting fired.

CRedskinsRule 10-15-2012 07:01 AM

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;952697]:doh:
We beat a 4-1 team by 12 points. No one is getting fired.[/QUOTE]

At least he was true to his word that even with a large win he would be mad at the defense.

Chico23231 10-15-2012 07:26 AM

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[quote=Deivybaby;952657][B]Smoot any updates on haslett getting fired [/B]????and any trades before deadline on defense or sonething. We need bmerriweather at SS[/quote]

celebrate a victory by asking if Haslett is getting fired? WTF?

KI Skins Fan 10-15-2012 08:07 AM

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[quote=VegasSkinsFan;952692]Don't think you can call any deal giving up 4 draft picks including three number 1s a no brainer. [B]He could easily have been the next Jamarcus Russell.[/B]I'm just glad he's as advanced as he is in the passing game. While cam was amazing last year, he doesn't hold a candle to RG as a passer.[/quote]

Yes, there was risk involved in giving up so many high draft picks to get RG3 but don't be ridiculous by comparing him to Jamarcus Russell. RG3 could never have been a total bust like Russell. With RG3, the only risk was that he might turn out to only be a good pro QB instead of the great pro QB we were seeking.

htownskinfan 10-15-2012 08:24 AM

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;952588][url=http://skins.dcsportsnexus.com/2012/10/niles-paul-crushes-vikings-marcus.html]RG3Skins: Niles Paul Crushes Vikings Marcus Sherels ... Sort Of[/url][/QUOTE]

Looking at that in slo mo it looks helmet to helmet
I'm sure he will be getting fined this week


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Skinzman 10-15-2012 08:35 AM

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[quote=htownskinfan;952708]Looking at that in slo mo it looks helmet to helmet
I'm sure he will be getting fined this week


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

Hes only considered a defenseless receiver if he had called for a fair catch, pass catchers dont have the option of calling for a fair catch. People that are runners have helmet to helmet contact all the time that is never called, and since he refused to call a fair catch, hes considered a runner.

He shouldnt be fined, but we also know that Roger loves to fine the skins for the most mundane of things. Look at the bright side, we havent had a blatant call overturned by a disgraceful review. We normally have a few of those by now.

skinsfan69 10-15-2012 08:36 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;952633]How long will it take us to fully comprehend how important the QB position is? I mean literally we cam basically hang all 3 wins on Bob. [B]Our defense has essentially played 0-6 football[/B]. And only Morris has really shown anything consistent otherwise.[/quote]

I'm going to disagree with you on this. Yes they stink but they also gave the offense 14 of the 38 points yesterday.

KI Skins Fan 10-15-2012 08:37 AM

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This may be nothing but did anyone else notice Kirk Cousins negative body language during the game? I mean, he was expressionless and motionless as RG3 ran past him on the game-clinching 76-Yd TD run. Cousins didn't even turn his head to watch RG3 score. I'm wondering if Cousins might be developing an attitude problem.

JoeRedskin 10-15-2012 08:41 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;952699]At least he was true to his word that even with a large win he would be mad at the defense.[/quote]

I look forward to his inciteful and constructive critiques in future posts.

JoeRedskin 10-15-2012 08:51 AM

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I thought we were going to be blown out after that first quarter. Holding them to nine points was pretty damn good after they moved down the field with ease.

Two turnovers led to 14 points. The final one sealed the victory and gave us our first "Victory Formation" since I can't remember when.

The longest pass play was 20 yards. We gave up about five in the 15-19 yard range. BUT - for the first time, no plays more than 40 yards in the entire game.

In the 2nd half, they gave up three long time consuming drives which yielded 14 points.

It's not the Steel Curtain, but it was enough to win and had some very good things to counter the very bad things.

JoeRedskin 10-15-2012 08:53 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;952714]This may be nothing but did anyone else notice Kirk Cousins negative body language during the game? I mean, he was expressionless and motionless as RG3 ran past him on the game-clinching 76-Yd TD run. Cousins didn't even turn his head to watch RG3 score. I'm wondering if Cousins might be developing an attitude problem.[/quote]

I saw Cousins walk over and congratulate him. By all accounts, Cousins is a stand up guy. I think you're reading wayyyy too much into it.

Chico23231 10-15-2012 08:57 AM

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Monster games yesterday: RG3, Lorenzo Alexander, Silverback, Perry Riley, Fletcher, and Stephen Bowen.

Bowen and Riley have quietly had great seasons.

GTripp0012 10-15-2012 08:59 AM

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This was a well played game against a good team at home. This is what teams that are on the right track are supposed to look like. The Vikings are going to win eight plus games this season. In this one, Ponder was just a little bit off all day with his accuracy. Matt Ryan had the same issue last week as well.

Biggest difference was that we didn't leave Ponder in the game for four quarters like we did with Ryan last week. Both showed some late game ability to put it all together, but yesterday, it didn't matter.

The defense is playing adequately, given it's talent level. You can't start a bunch of guys like Rob Jackson, Madieu Williams, Reed Doughty, and Jarvis Jenkins and expect to have great results, but these results are more than acceptable as long as there are no stinker performances like the 2010 Eagles game. We can live with what the D is giving us right now. The special teams and the offense [B]has[/B] to come to play like they did yesterday, but every week. They can't collapse and go back to how they were against TB and ATL.

GTripp0012 10-15-2012 09:03 AM

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Oh and the Redskins have a positive pt differential after 6 games, which hasn't been the case since 2008.

JoeRedskin 10-15-2012 09:20 AM

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[quote=GTripp0012;952722]The defense is playing adequately, given it's talent level. You can't start a bunch of guys like Rob Jackson, Madieu Williams, Reed Doughty, and Jarvis Jenkins and expect to have great results, but these results are more than acceptable as long as there are no stinker performances like the 2010 Eagles game. [B]We can live with what the D is giving us right now. The special teams and the offense [B]has[/B] to come to play like they did yesterday, but every week. They can't collapse and go back to how they were against TB and ATL.[/B][/quote]

Yup. I agree. This D is never going to be "Great!". At the same time, as long as the offense keeps scoring, it will be adequate.

CRedskinsRule 10-15-2012 09:24 AM

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It's a pretty awesome feeling knowing that you have a qb can close out games, and also bring a team down the field in the last minutes to win them.

Next week's game against the Giants may be epic.

Monkeydad 10-15-2012 09:31 AM

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I missed the entire first quarter, the local station showed the Eagles OT loss until it was over. I started watching at the beginning of the 2nd quarter with us down 9-0.

That was an amazing 3 quarters of football! :D

I'm feeling confident about the Giants game. Who cares that they just destroyed Alex Smith's team...we embarrassed them TWICE last year with Rex. We're infinitely better this season. We can do this.

MTK 10-15-2012 09:36 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;952714]This may be nothing but did anyone else notice Kirk Cousins negative body language during the game? I mean, he was expressionless and motionless as RG3 ran past him on the game-clinching 76-Yd TD run. Cousins didn't even turn his head to watch RG3 score. I'm wondering if Cousins might be developing an attitude problem.[/quote]

I think he's just not a big rah-rah jump around type of guy. I wouldn't read into it. He's a quality guy.

skinsfan69 10-15-2012 09:36 AM

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[quote=GTripp0012;952722]This was a well played game against a good team at home. This is what teams that are on the right track are supposed to look like. The Vikings are going to win eight plus games this season. In this one, Ponder was just a little bit off all day with his accuracy. Matt Ryan had the same issue last week as well.

Biggest difference was that we didn't leave Ponder in the game for four quarters like we did with Ryan last week. Both showed some late game ability to put it all together, but yesterday, it didn't matter.

The defense is playing adequately, given it's talent level. [B]You can't start a bunch of guys like Rob Jackson, Madieu Williams, Reed Doughty, and Jarvis Jenkins and expect to have great results,[/B] but these results are more than acceptable as long as there are no stinker performances like the 2010 Eagles game. We can live with what the D is giving us right now. The special teams and the offense [B]has[/B] to come to play like they did yesterday, but every week. They can't collapse and go back to how they were against TB and ATL.[/quote]

A little disappointed in Jenkins. Perhaps he's still not 100% from his knee injury.

Monkeydad 10-15-2012 09:39 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;952714]This may be nothing but did anyone else notice Kirk Cousins negative body language during the game? I mean, he was expressionless and motionless as RG3 ran past him on the game-clinching 76-Yd TD run. Cousins didn't even turn his head to watch RG3 score. I'm wondering if Cousins might be developing an attitude problem.[/quote]

I saw that on the 76 yard run...he was like a statue on the sideline...I just laughed though.

He has a professional, Todd Collins-like demeanor. The thought ran through my mind "he knows he's never getting the job for sure now" but I have no doubts that he's a team player.

SmootSmack 10-15-2012 09:41 AM

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I didn't notice anything negative about Cousins' behavior during the game. He was talking to RG3 and Kyle throughout. Think he's just kind of even keeled. Only thing that caught my eye was that he was throwing on the sidelines early in the game. Not really sure why

Chico23231 10-15-2012 09:47 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;952753]A little disappointed in Jenkins. Perhaps he's still not 100% from his knee injury.[/quote]

I saw Jenkins make a couple plays specifically on run defense yesterday where he would come off a stunt or the line blocked down or inside and funnel Adrian Peterson to the outside for an easy tackle.

Oh by the way, did anyone here AP's name yesterday????? Dude had a quiet 70 yards rushing. Defense still playing good against the run...

MTK 10-15-2012 09:47 AM

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[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/redskins-38-vikings-26-ten-observations/article/2510740#.UHwTxrT1CWg]Redskins 38, Vikings 26: Ten Observations | WashingtonExaminer.com[/url]

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/rg3-report-redskins-38-vikings-26/article/2510739#.UHwT57T1CWg]RG3 Report: Redskins 38, Vikings 26 | WashingtonExaminer.com[/url]

skinsfan69 10-15-2012 09:53 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;952762]I saw Jenkins make a couple plays specifically on run defense yesterday where he would come off a stunt or the line blocked down or inside and funnel Adrian Peterson to the outside for an easy tackle.

Oh by the way, did anyone here AP's name yesterday????? Dude had a quiet 70 yards rushing. Defense still playing good against the run...[/quote]

Yes they have been more than solid in the run game. But it's painfully obvious that we're really missing Orakpo.

Alvin Walton 10-15-2012 10:04 AM

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If you have three legs you will be able to outrun the whole defense every time.

[img]http://www.trbimg.com/img-507b5014/turbine/chi-redskins-take-care-of-vikings-20121014-001/600[/img]

Giantone 10-15-2012 10:09 AM

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Didn't see a min of any football ,I heard "Bob had a good day"(lol) n. Congrats

MTK 10-15-2012 10:11 AM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;952645]Alexander needs to be starting[/quote]

He certainly made a strong case for that. At the least, he needs to be on the field a lot more going forward.

MTK 10-15-2012 10:14 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;952675]I don't know to be honest....to me it seemed like it wasn't a designed QB draw. But I haven't heard/read anything saying that it wasn't.[/quote]

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2012/oct/14/robert-griffin-iiis-76-yard-touchdown-run-his-own-/]Robert Griffin III's 76-yard touchdown run, in his own words - Washington Times[/url]

"We kind of felt like they were going to pressure us in that situation. [Offensive coordinator] Kyle [Shanahan] called a good play.

"I saw the double A-gap blitz. I was thinking I’m either going to throw hot, or if they miss this blitz and don’t hit it the right way, then I’m going to run for the first. I saw that they missed it, took off running and got to the sideline; thought about running out of bounds because everyone has been telling me that lately. You know in certain situations, and I felt like I had the guy outflanked. I just took off running. The rest is history.

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2012/oct/14/robert-griffin-iiis-76-yard-touchdown-run-his-own-/#ixzz29NRKGfSS]Robert Griffin III's 76-yard touchdown run, in his own words - Washington Times[/url]

12thMan 10-15-2012 10:14 AM

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I think Zoe definitely earned himself much more playing time. The dude was beasting yesterday.

12thMan 10-15-2012 10:23 AM

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Other observations: Kyle and Shanny have done a masterful job of tailoring the offensive to Robert's skill set.

Great to see Santana still doing his thing and contributing. Would love to see that guy get to a Super Bowl

Interior offensive line plays well as a unit. No one's dominant, but together they open up lanes and are fundamentally sound.

firstdown 10-15-2012 10:27 AM

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What a game. Those 3 stops in the 1st qtr were big and after we stopped them the 3rd time I told my wife that's going to be the difference in the game. RGIII had a great game and I loved Alexander getting more time with the D. T Williams played big and it was just a great team effort today.

skinsguy 10-15-2012 10:31 AM

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I'll admit I was starting to get this uneasy feeling going into the fourth quarter. Seems like no matter how big of a lead the team has, the fourth quarter is always a tale of two games. Griffin's 76-yard TD run was huge - just absolutely huge!

Ruhskins 10-15-2012 10:56 AM

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[quote=skinsguy;952793]I'll admit I was starting to get this uneasy feeling going into the fourth quarter. Seems like no matter how big of a lead the team has, the fourth quarter is always a tale of two games. Griffin's 76-yard TD run was huge - just absolutely huge![/quote]

I heard on the radio this morning that teams are scoring a lot of points on us during the fourth quarter. That's one area that the defense needs to work on going into the rest of the season. We can't have big leads wither down in the fourth quarter.

CrustyRedskin 10-15-2012 10:58 AM

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The One Man Gang is a football player with great instincts rather than just a good athlete. The guy can just play ball. Reminds me a little of Clay Mathews who wasnt even drafted. Some guys are just football savy and have that extra unexplainable skill.

Meks 10-15-2012 11:03 AM

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yea ZO is the man..

Dirtbag59 10-15-2012 11:12 AM

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Yeah, I say put him at ILB. I mean he seems to be nowhere near the liabilty in coverage that Riley is and on top of that he was able to rush the passer from the ILB spot, something Riley has not been able to do.

skinsfaninok 10-15-2012 11:23 AM

Adrian Peterson says d.hall. slapped him in the face, basically the helmet. Either way that's a punk move hall

firstdown 10-15-2012 11:32 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;952817]Adrian Peterson says d.hall. slapped him in the face, basically the helmet. Either way that's a punk move hall[/quote]

F^%K AP I'm glad Hall bitch slaped him.


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