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It's gonna be hilarious when Cooley is on the inactive list every week

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[quote=SmootSmack;955473]It's gonna be hilarious when Cooley is on the inactive list every week[/quote]

At least until Paulsen drops a pass, and then people will be bitching everywhere about Cooley being inactive. Then arguments will pop up everywhere because those same fans will be wondering why we don't have an All-Pro at backup tight end.

I can't wait.

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[quote=skinsfan69;955446]I really feel bad for Davis. He's on a one year deal and has a major injury, that just sucks.[/quote]I'm sad to see Davis go down just when he is finally acting like a professional. From an organizational standpoint, this buys the FO another year to postpone opening the bank for Davis. I don't see other teams offering him a huge multi-year deal coming off a torn Achilles.

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[quote=Ruhskins;955443]Paulsen sure did a good job in stepping up after Davis went out.[/quote]

He did, no doubt. He's solid and probably a bit underrated as a receiver. But he's clearly not in the same class as Davis after the catch.

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I think Cooley starts as soon as he's in football shape. Niles Paul has a long ways to go and even though I like Paulson, I think Cooley has better hands and knows how to run routes better. When it's third and 7 I'd rather have Cooley on the field myself.

I am so not concerned by this injury. Im so not concerned with our offense. I mean even with Davis out our offense was fine and that was against one of the better defenses in football - in their house. Id so much rather be reading a thread that we found a safety and put doo doo williams down like a horse with a bad leg. There has to be someone in the free world that is better than him and needs a job.


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[quote=punch it in;955507]I am so not concerned by this injury. Im so not concerned with our offense. I mean even with Davis out our offense was fine and that was against one of the better defenses in football - in their house. Id so much rather be reading a thread that we found a safety and put doo doo williams down like a horse with a bad leg. There has to be someone in the free world that is better than him and needs a job.


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Well if that person is better they wouldn't be out of a job.

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;955508]Well if that person is better they wouldn't be out of a job.[/QUOTE]

I was sort of being sarcastic like - combing the free world for one. Remember the movie "The Worlds Greatest Athlete". ? Lol.


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[quote=SmootSmack;955473]It's gonna be hilarious when Cooley is on the inactive list every week[/quote]

NO it's not. Because then we'll have to hear from the fans how their best TE is sitting on the inactive list and how Shanny doesn't know how to use his talent.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;955543]NO it's not. Because then we'll have to hear from the fans how their best TE is sitting on the inactive list and how Shanny doesn't know how to use his talent.[/QUOTE]

Maybe if he played safety. I cant imagine even the biggest anti-shanny is complaining too much about our offense anymore. I mean the way this o- line (even with polumbus) is opening holes for the run game and protecting RG-3 ( in the pocket - when he runs its pretty hard to stay in front of him and block). Its nothing short of genius really considering where our oline was a year ago. His plucking of Morris in the late rounds is genius too.


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[quote=punch it in;955548]Maybe if he played safety. I cant imagine even the biggest anti-shanny is complaining too much about our offense anymore. [/quote]

Have you not been reading some of these threads? Goat wants Kyle gone due to his play calling....lol A couple others share his view.

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[quote=SmootSmack;955473]It's gonna be hilarious when Cooley is on the inactive list every week[/quote]

Yeah, except at least now I don't have to change my username.

It will be interesting to see how much time it takes to get him on the active roster.

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[quote=SmootSmack;955473]It's gonna be hilarious when Cooley is on the inactive list every week[/quote]

I thought the same thing although I guess it seems unlikely to be the case as it's hard to not have 3 TEs active. If one goes down then who steps in? Also they're generally the backup at FB.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;955552]Have you not been reading some of these threads? Goat wants Kyle gone due to his play calling....lol A couple others share his view.[/QUOTE]

My thoughts on Kyle are this. Like SS says he overthinks things. I can look at Kyles career and say this - in Houston he had Foster Schaub and Johnson. In Washington our offense stunk until we got RG-3. So im not sure who is making who look good? Not to mention the fact that if Kyles father wasnt who he was he probably would not be employed by the NFL period. Since Kyle left Houston has the playcalling and offense missed a beat? No. Im dont want Kyle gone for one reason rite now. Stability. Not because i think he is an offensive mastermind. If he continues to call plays like an option run by a tight end in critical moments of big games im going to hop on the Goats bandwagon real fast though.


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[QUOTE=CooleyAsCanBe;955556]Yeah, except at least now I don't have to change my username.

It will be interesting to see how much time it takes to get him on the active roster.[/QUOTE]

Cooley is always gonna be a Redskin great. You never have to change your name. Nor should you.


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With Cooley back on the roster the Skins won't lose another game.

[QUOTE=RedskinRat;955573]With Cooley back on the roster the Skins won't lose another game.[/QUOTE]

I would be willing to go so far as to say that his being back will ultimately lead to opposing teams not completing another pass against us. Why? Because sometimes the best pass defense is a guy named Chris Cooley.


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[quote=punch it in;955562]I can look at Kyles career and say this - in Houston he had Foster Schaub and Johnson. In Washington our offense stunk until we got RG-3. So im not sure who is making who look good? Not to mention the fact that if Kyles father wasnt who he was he probably would not be employed by the NFL period.[/quote]


Bill Walsh wasn't anything until Joe Montana. Bill Bellicheat wasn't anything until Tom Brady. We can play this game ALL day long. It doesn't matter how good you are, if you don't have the talent to make it work, you aren't going to do very well. Talent ALWAYS carries a coach for the most part, so you assertion that somehow Kyle's success isn't really his, it's somebody else, is a bit ridiculous. Kyle has earned his stripes in the NFL, he hasn't had daddy giving him jobs. No coach out there is going to risk their jobs just to employee some coaches kid if he couldn't do the job.

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[quote=NC_Skins;955577]Bill Walsh wasn't anything until Joe Montana. Bill Bellicheat wasn't anything until Tom Brady. We can play this game ALL day long. It doesn't matter how good you are, if you don't have the talent to make it work, you aren't going to do very well. Talent ALWAYS carries a coach for the most part, so you assertion that somehow Kyle's success isn't really his, it's somebody else, is a bit ridiculous. Kyle has earned his strips in the NFL, he hasn't had daddy giving him jobs. No coach out there is going to risk their jobs just to employee some coaches kid if he couldn't do the job.[/quote]

Kyle has indeed earned his strips

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Hehehehehe sorry I couldn't help it :FIREdevil

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;955577]Bill Walsh wasn't anything until Joe Montana. Bill Bellicheat wasn't anything until Tom Brady. We can play this game ALL day long. It doesn't matter how good you are, if you don't have the talent to make it work, you aren't going to do very well. Talent ALWAYS carries a coach for the most part, so you assertion that somehow Kyle's success isn't really his, it's somebody else, is a bit ridiculous. Kyle has earned his strips in the NFL, he hasn't had daddy giving him jobs. No coach out there is going to risk their jobs just to employee some coaches kid if he couldn't do the job.[/QUOTE]

Lets not compare Walsh to Kyle first of all. Bill Walsh revolutionized the game and introduced the West Coast Offense. He won as a head coach and college at Stanford and made his bones for years in the NFL. Showing his ability and innovativeness on some real crap teams. Secondly Bellicheck did win 11 games the year Brady got injured and look at what Parcells did when Bellicheck was on his staff as opposed to when he wasnt. Point is they both showed me something at some point when they did not have a superstar qb. They both made their bones and worked their way up through the ranks. Kyle Shanahan was a graduate asst for ONE year with UCLA before John Gruden gave him a shot with TB before Gary Kubiack ( who coincidentally worked under Daddy for years ) gave him a shot with Houston. So please - please do not tell me they didnt give the kid a shot because of his last name. Kyle - grad asst one year
Bucs under Gruden one year
Texans - wr coach ( sure he taught andre johnson everything he knows - lol)/ hired by his Daddys Guy! After two years - one as a grad asst in college!
Redskins - hired by - guess who - Daddy. No Qb - horrible offense/ draft RG-3 - hes a genius like he was with Schaub/ Davis/ Foster!

I will play this game all day long! Lol.





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There are hundreds of coaches all around the NFL who get their opportunity because of their last name. But to work your way up and maintain a job in the NFL takes a lot more than that.

Kyle Shanahan is highly sought after. And not because his last name is Shanahan

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[quote=NC_Skins;955577]Bill Walsh wasn't anything until Joe Montana. Bill Bellicheat wasn't anything until Tom Brady. We can play this game ALL day long. It doesn't matter how good you are, if you don't have the talent to make it work, you aren't going to do very well. Talent ALWAYS carries a coach for the most part, so you assertion that somehow Kyle's success isn't really his, it's somebody else, is a bit ridiculous. Kyle has earned his strips in the NFL, he hasn't had daddy giving him jobs. No coach out there is going to risk their jobs just to employee some coaches kid if he couldn't do the job.[/quote]

LOL comparing Bill Walsh to Kyle Shanahan...that's priceless!! Belichick had one of his best season's when Brady was on IR and Cassell was the starter...because Belichick's ever changing systems are the key.

The Texans have NOT missed Kyle Shanahan in the least, period. The Redskins will NOT miss him either.

Our offense lost the game yesterday, and it's not on the players. Here's just one example: on RG3's INT you may have notice that was the 4th or 5th time Kyle had called that play. The defense was waiting for it, and because Kyle doesn't spread the field with his routes it makes it far to easy for a defender to jump a route when they know the play. Sure you can make the argument RG3 shouldn't have thrown it there, but the play shouldn't have been called in the first place. That's where were at...our rookie QB has to bail out the OC or else.

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;955602]There are hundreds of coaches all around the NFL who get their opportunity because of their last name. But to work your way up and maintain a job in the NFL takes a lot more than that.

Kyle Shanahan is highly sought after. And not because his last name is Shanahan[/QUOTE]

But SS how has he worked his way up? One year as a grad asst? One year as qc in tampa? Than three years in Houston with "the big three" - hired by his Dads guy? Than hired by Dad? How is that working your way up?


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re-sign cooley

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[quote=punch it in;955609]But SS how has he worked his way up? One year as a grad asst? One year as qc in tampa? Than three years in Houston with "the big three" - hired by his Dads guy? Than hired by Dad? How is that working your way up?


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Are you bothered that he changed jobs so often, or that his last name is Shanahan? Either way, I think we're going to be going in circles with this debate

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[quote=punch it in;955609]But SS how has he worked his way up? One year as a grad asst? One year as qc in tampa? Than three years in Houston with "the big three" - hired by his Dads guy? Than hired by Dad? How is that working your way up?


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and if im not mistaken Kubiak was calling the plays in HOU

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[quote=punch it in;955609]But SS how has he worked his way up? One year as a grad asst? One year as qc in tampa? Than three years in Houston with "the big three" - hired by his Dads guy? Than hired by Dad? How is that working your way up?


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The "big three" in Houston that you speak of were not the "big three" when Kyle was there. Kyle became the QB's coach in 2007 when Schaub got there, you could argue that Johnson was a established WR when Kyle was the receivers' coach in 2006, and Arian Foster didn't come into the league until 2009, Kyle's last year in Houston.

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[quote=punch it in;955609]But SS how has he worked his way up? One year as a grad asst? One year as qc in tampa? Than three years in Houston with "the big three" - hired by his Dads guy? Than hired by Dad? How is that working your way up?


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How is moving from QC, to a current position as OC, to eventually HC, not working your way up?

All i said from the get go is the jury is still out on him. Im not bothered by his last name. I think MS has actually done a masterful job with the o-line and morris and rg-3. I am bothered mostly at this poi t because he was compared to bellicheck and walsh! Lol. Told he has earned his stripes in the nfl and worked his way up through the ranks. Thats bologna. I dont think he has had enough jobs to change. Grad asst at ucla for one year rite to the pros. Qc in tampa for one year and than worked for kubiack and his father? Ill let it go but please lets not pretend that this guy has had to prove anything to get the OC job with the Redskins.


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kyle is like rex, good kyle bad kyle... which ones gonna show up at what point in the game.... it kills me

[QUOTE=Lotus;955624]How is moving from QC, to a current position as OC, to eventually HC, not working your way up?[/QUOTE]

Read my posts. He was QC for one year. That was after he jumped into the nfl after ONE year as a grad asst! Minus those two years he has worked under his father and Kubiack - who might as well be his father! It has to be the easiest path to a potential HC job in the history of the sport.


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[quote=punch it in;955575]I would be willing to go so far as to say that his being back will ultimately lead to opposing teams not completing another pass against us. Why? Because sometimes the best pass defense is a guy named Chris Cooley.


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CC's attitude and input on the sideline will be the turning point. Chemistry is key.

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Cooley's joking? I don't know. Always have felt that may have been part of the problem with the teams lack of caring. More worried about his knee though.

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[quote=punch it in;955630]Read my posts. He was QC for one year. That was after he jumped into the nfl after ONE year as a grad asst! Minus those two years he has worked under his father and Kubiack - who might as well be his father! It has to be the easiest path to a potential HC job in the history of the sport.


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QC for two years if we're going to be specific

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;955623]The "big three" in Houston that you speak of were not the "big three" when Kyle was there. Kyle became the QB's coach in 2007 when Schaub got there, you could argue that Johnson was a established WR when Kyle was the receivers' coach in 2006, and Arian Foster didn't come into the league until 2009, Kyle's last year in Houston.[/QUOTE]

They have been a top offense since his departure too.


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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;955636]QC for two years if we're going to be specific[/QUOTE]

Correct. My bad.


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[QUOTE=RedskinRat;955632]CC's attitude and input on the sideline will be the turning point. Chemistry is key.[/QUOTE]

I was just piggy backing on what i thought was sarcasm when you said we wont lose another game. Lol. Were you serious?


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[quote=Meks;955618]and if im not mistaken Kubiak was calling the plays in HOU[/quote]

That would explain why Houstan's offense didn't skip a beat when Kyle left.

But it would (significantly) detract from Kyle's already thin and underwhelming resume.

If some other franchise wants an OC without any meaningful accomplishments, send him with a nice bottle of Scotch. I think the love fest for Kyle is beyond absurd, and I'm (still) not sure his apologists are even being serious, but whatevs.

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[quote=Meks;955618]and if im not mistaken Kubiak was calling the plays in HOU[/quote]

You're mistaken

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[quote=punch it in;955642]I was just piggy backing on what i thought was sarcasm when you said we wont lose another game. Lol. Were you serious?


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Yes, I am starting my own wave of idiotic positivity to counter the idiotic negativity we sometimes see on this site.