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[quote=CultBrennan59;974933]At least its not a question of John Beck or Rex Grossman starting.[/quote]you can say that again

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At least its not a question of John Beck or Rex Grossman starting.

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[quote=Mattyk;974939]At least its not a question of John Beck or Rex Grossman starting.[/quote]

This is one of my all-time favorite statements. Thank you for re-affirming it.

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[quote=Mattyk;974909]Unless someone here is suiting up on Sunday who cares what our confidence level is.[/quote]
Dude, you are......so holding me back.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;974931]Regardless of whether RGIII or Cousins plays, we're going to find out alot about this team on Sunday. In years past, this would be a "trap game" where we played down to the level of the opponent. I shouldnt even say years past, becuase we played down to Carolina and lost to them. Good teams beat up the bad teams. Cleaveland and Philly arent horrible, but they arent good either. If we are a good team, we'll beat both of them fairly easily.[/quote]

The problem with the Carolina game is our defense cannot stop Cam. We have been terrible against him the last two years. I think our offense would destroy our defense! lol

Also RG III had his worst game as a pro when it came to his accuracy. If that was the only game a fan had watched of RG III all year, you would have come away asking yourself what the big deal with that kid is.

I know our guys know exactly what this game means to our season. They know what they are going to have to do to win. I don't see this being a let down or playing down to our opponent, if they honestly believe they are a playoff team they need to dominate all of the games left on the schedule.

BTW the Browns are not a bad team. Don't let thier record fool you. They are young and hungry just like us, and don't think they don't want to come out and beat the guy that they wanted in the draft.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;974945]The problem with the Carolina game is our defense cannot stop Cam. We have been terrible against him the last two years. I think our offense would destroy our defense! lol

Also RG III had his worst game as a pro when it came to his accuracy. If that was the only game a fan had watched of RG III all year, you would have come away asking yourself what the big deal with that kid is.

I know our guys know exactly what this game means to our season. They know what they are going to have to do to win. I don't see this being a let down or playing down to our opponent, if they honestly believe they are a playoff team they need to dominate all of the games left on the schedule.

BTW the Browns are not a bad team. Don't let thier record fool you. They are young and hungry just like us, and don't think they don't want to come out and beat the guy that they wanted in the draft.[/quote]

Why would they have extra motivation, it's not like they can go to Trent Richardson and Brandon weeden and tell them that they tried to trade the picks to draft rg3.

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[quote=WaldSkins;974947]Why would they have extra motivation, it's not like they can go to Trent Richardson and Brandon weeden and tell them that they tried to trade the picks to draft rg3.[/quote]

lol good point

Hey guys lets go beat the Skins cause RG3 should be here instead of guys like Richardson and Weeden!

[QUOTE=WaldSkins;974947]Why would they have extra motivation, it's not like they can go to Trent Richardson and Brandon weeden and tell them that they tried to trade the picks to draft rg3.[/QUOTE]

It might motivate Weeden though - something to prove. Either way were gonna win.....and win big.

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[quote=RGIII;974603]To much at stake here. Start Cousins.[/quote]

I was thinking the same, well, except for one major thing. Start Griffen, dudes a stud

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[quote=mlmpetert;974951]I was thinking the same, well, except for one major thing. Start Griffen, dudes a stud[/quote]the browns are preparing 50/50 for griff/cousins. but when grossman takes the field, all their plans are out the window!

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[quote=los panda;974952]the browns are preparing 50/50 for griff/cousins. But when grossman takes the field, all their plans are out the window![/quote]

yes. Flip the world on them.

[QUOTE=los panda;974952]the browns are preparing 50/50 for griff/cousins. but when grossman takes the field, all their plans are out the window![/QUOTE]

That my friend is why you make the big bucks! Always one step ahead of the rest!

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[quote=Mattyk;974939]At least its not a question of John Beck or Rex Grossman starting.[/quote]

Haha! I told you Matty had a sense of humor. Pay up CRedskinsRule!!!

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The Great John Beck, who has not thrown a single interception all year, would beat Cleveland 77-0 and then spend the rest of the day rescuing people trapped in burning buildings.

Bring back John Beck!

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As long as the field isn't in poor condition due to either snow or rain, Griffin will start (barring setbacks during the week of course). Griffin's will is too strong and with the playoffs practically already starting for the Redskins four weeks ago, there's no way he sits out if he is anywhere close to 80%.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000110502/article/alfred-morris-expects-rg3-to-play-sunday-for-redskins]Alfred Morris expects RG3 to play Sunday for Redskins - NFL.com[/url]

[QUOTE=53Fan;974958]Haha! I told you Matty had a sense of humor. Pay up CRedskinsRule!!![/QUOTE]

Dang it anyway, now what I will i do without that month supply of pigs feet!!!!

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[quote=WaldSkins;974947]Why would they have extra motivation, it's not like they can go to Trent Richardson and Brandon weeden and tell them that they tried to trade the picks to draft rg3.[/quote]

It's not to far fetched. For starters Richardson and Weeden probably know that RG3 was the first choice for a lot of fans in Cleveland. I guess you could argue that they want to take the opportunity in a head to head match to outshine RG3. Then again that's a stretch.

The real reason would probably be that both guys could have gotten the chance to end up somewhere, anywhere other then Cleveland but because the Skins got RG3 they're now stuck in.....Cleveland. To me that would be motivation enough.

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[quote=44ever;974961][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000110502/article/alfred-morris-expects-rg3-to-play-sunday-for-redskins]Alfred Morris expects RG3 to play Sunday for Redskins - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

As long as he has no setbacks he's gonna play no doubt, and he'll be closer to 100% than people think.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;974962]Dang it anyway, now what I will i do without that month supply of pigs feet!!!![/quote]

I have no idea how that bs post got on there C. I'm thinking if I blame Goat I can get by with it. :)

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[quote=Lotus;974959]The Great John Beck, who has not thrown a single interception all year, would beat Cleveland 77-0 and then spend the rest of the day rescuing people trapped in burning buildings.

Bring back John Beck![/quote]

John Beck hasn't played this year.

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Let's see who gets this, something tells me DynamiteRave will. Based on your "Pics for Sharing" posts, it looks like we frequent the same websites.

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I forgot that the Browns had drafted RT Mitchell Schwartz, he played on the O-line at Cal with Alex Mack and is having a pro bowl type season. That is a nice young OL that makes me very jealous, Mack, Schwartz and Thomas. Owen Marecic the FB is one tough mofo, he played FB/LB at Stanford, a dual role player. My favorite defensive player is Frostee Rucker, who doesn't love that name.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/cal-ot-prospect-mitchell-schwartz-views-himself-as-a-complete-player/2012/04/10/gIQAqHjJ8S_blog.html]Cal OT prospect Mitchell Schwartz views himself as a ‘complete player’ - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/browns-are-as-hot-as-redskins-and-perhaps-more-surprising/2012/12/12/1e41ba42-4494-11e2-9648-a2c323a991d6_story.html]Browns are as hot as Redskins and perhaps more surprising - The Washington Post[/url]

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[quote=Dirtbag59;974964]The real reason would probably be that both guys could have gotten the chance to end up somewhere, anywhere other then Cleveland but because the Skins got RG3 they're now stuck in.....Cleveland. To me that would be motivation enough.[/quote][YT]oZzgAjjuqZM[/YT]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;974980]I forgot that the Browns had drafted RT Mitchell Schwartz, he played on the O-line at Cal with Alex Mack and is having a pro bowl type season. That is a nice young OL that makes me very jealous, Mack, Schwartz and Thomas. Owen Marecic the FB is one tough mofo, he played FB/LB at Stanford, a dual role player. My favorite defensive player is Frostee Rucker, who doesn't love that name.

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/cal-ot-prospect-mitchell-schwartz-views-himself-as-a-complete-player/2012/04/10/gIQAqHjJ8S_blog.html"]Cal OT prospect Mitchell Schwartz views himself as a ‘complete player’ - The Insider - The Washington Post[/URL]

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/browns-are-as-hot-as-redskins-and-perhaps-more-surprising/2012/12/12/1e41ba42-4494-11e2-9648-a2c323a991d6_story.html"]Browns are as hot as Redskins and perhaps more surprising - The Washington Post[/URL][/quote]

Like the article said we're in similar places right now. Browns have beat some underwhelming teams the last few weeks. We beat the Iggles in the midst of their downward spiral and the Giants in what was supposedly their sloppiest game in 2 or 3 years, although I think Haslett's defensive scheming gets partial credit for those penalties. The wins over the Cowboys and Ravens though can't be poo-pooed.

I think we have a more talented roster overall than the Browns though. Should be a win.

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Heres a prediction.

RG3 plays. First play of the game Josh Morgan comes in motion, RG3 flicks it to him, continues to run and Morgan throws a pass (again) to RG3. RG3 gets killed on the play and is out for the year.

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[quote=cultbrennan59;975001]heres a prediction.

Rg3 plays. First play of the game josh morgan comes in motion, rg3 flicks it to him, continues to run and morgan throws a pass (again) to rg3. Rg3 gets killed on the play and is out for the year.[/quote]

what?

A lot of the "experts" are picking the Browns to win this week.

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[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;975001]Heres a prediction.

RG3 plays. First play of the game Josh Morgan comes in motion, RG3 flicks it to him, continues to run and Morgan throws a pass (again) to RG3. RG3 gets killed on the play and is out for the year.[/QUOTE]

no offense... actually, yes offense. I don't know why you keep posting crap like that. it makes no sense.

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A few notes from the ESPN Stat sheets:
Accuscore has us winning this 61% to 38% (average score Skins 22.5, Browns 19.0)

The numbers:
TEAM OFFENSE (per game average)
Total Yards
WSH 386
CLE 322

Yards Passing
WSH 219
CLE 221

Yards Rushing
WSH 168
CLE 101
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TEAM DEFENSE (per game average)
Yards Allowed
WSH 388
CLE 363

Pass Yds Allowed
WSH 289
CLE 243

Rush Yds Allowed
WSH 99
CLE 121
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Allen, Golic and Hoge pick us
Jaworski, Schefter, and Wickersham pick the Browns
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In our last 10 games,
our largest loss was by 15 to Pittsburgh
our largest win was by 25 over Philly

In their last 10 games,
their largest loss was by 14 to Indy
their largest win was by 23 over KC (remember KC held Baltimore to 9)
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In the last 10 games we have had 4 common opponents:
Baltimore, NYG, Dallas, Pit
We were 3-2 against them (2 games v NYG)
They were 1-4 against them( 2 games v Baltimore)
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The Skins are 3-3 away
The Browns are 4-3 at home
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In the last 10 games, we have played 6 playoff potential teams, 3-3
In the last 10 games, they have played 7 playoff potential teams, 2-5

We both have one overtime game in the last 10 games
We won against Baltimore (in case you forgot)
They lost against Dallas

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I think the biggest factor in this game is not measurable by stats. It all depends if CLE wants to play on Sunday. Have they packed it in for the year? Or are they loving the spoiler role?

If they come to play it is going to be a hard fought game that the Skins could easily lose.

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[quote=mredskins;975038]I think the biggest factor in this game is not measurable by stats. It all depends if CLE wants to play on Sunday. Have they packed it in for the year? Or are they loving the spoiler role?

If they come to play it is going to be a hard fought game that the Skins could easily lose.[/quote]

For me the common opponent # and wins against the possible playoff contenders are important numbers, and we have better percentages in both. The fact that their one win out of 5 games was against a Pitt team that turned it over 8 times, also seems to say that some of their hot streak is less then real. We should win, and I expect that the Redskins will come to play, knowing they have a chance at playoffs and still at the division.

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[quote=That Guy;975008]no offense... actually, yes offense. I don't know why you keep posting crap like that. it makes no sense.[/quote]

Same here.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;975042]For me the common opponent # and wins against the possible playoff contenders are important numbers, and we have better percentages in both. The fact that their one win out of 5 games was against a Pitt team that turned it over 8 times, also seems to say that some of their hot streak is less then real. We should win, and I expect that the Redskins will come to play, knowing they have a chance at playoffs and still at the division.[/quote]

I hear this. I'm actually way more impressed by Cleveland in their losses more so than any of their wins. The Steelers win was kinda a joke. They turned it over 8 times and Pittsburgh still had the ball with 2 minutes left and a chance to win. Raiders/KC doesn't say much either.... But they've also taken the Ravens, Giants, Cowboys, Colts right to the end or given them everything they could handle, and regardless of the opponent, when you win 3 in a row you're doing something right.

If Rg3 plays, I'll be pretty confident. If Cousins plays, I'll think we're right in it, but will be preparing myself for the letdown. We'll see, but this game is going to be way tougher than I thought when the schedule came out and this was an automatic "W". I think the Browns are on the right path and will be in playoff contention within two years.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;975001]Heres a prediction.

RG3 plays. First play of the game Josh Morgan comes in motion, RG3 flicks it to him, continues to run and Morgan throws a pass (again) to RG3. RG3 gets killed on the play and is out for the year.[/quote]

they tried that play already . . . Shanny said he would never even consider it again . . .

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[quote=Gmanc711;975063]I hear this. I'm actually way more impressed by Cleveland in their losses more so than any of their wins. The Steelers win was kinda a joke. They turned it over 8 times and Pittsburgh still had the ball with 2 minutes left and a chance to win. Raiders/KC doesn't say much either.... But they've also taken the Ravens, Giants, Cowboys, Colts right to the end or given them everything they could handle, and regardless of the opponent, when you win 3 in a row you're doing something right.

If Rg3 plays, I'll be pretty confident. If Cousins plays, I'll think we're right in it, but will be preparing myself for the letdown. We'll see, but this game is going to be way tougher than I thought when the schedule came out and this was an automatic "W". I think the Browns are on the right path and will be in playoff contention within two years.[/quote]

I don't think it's an automatic win, but I feel we are definitely on the right path, and with either qb will get the win. The motivational quality of either playing for your qb that's hurt, or winning without him, will go a long way. Plus Garcon seems to be tracking the right way.

Just can't afford drops by anyone...

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[quote=walton71;974311][B]I would prefer them to start Cousins with RG3 dressed as backup if needed. I believe we can make the playoffs this year, but not at the expense of RG3 reinjuring himself or having any setbacks.[/B] This season is already a win in my opinion. As a life long Skins fan, it's been a long time since I've felt we could beat anyone we were playing. This team is going to be scary next year when we get Orakpo and Carriker back and add a few pieces. I still think we can make the playoffs this year, which is bad news for every other team because no one wants to play us.[/quote]

I'm 100% against this. If Rg3 is dressing, he should be starting. He's either healthy or he's not. If he's not healthy he doesn't dress.

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[quote=That Guy;975008]no offense... actually, yes offense. I don't know why you keep posting crap like that. it makes no sense.[/quote]

its a joke

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[quote=los panda;974952]the browns are preparing 50/50 for griff/cousins. but when grossman takes the field, all their plans are out the window![/quote]

That would be the most hilarious thing I've ever seen.

There's always a chance Good Rex could show up.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;975064]they tried that play already . . . Shanny said he would never even consider it again . . .[/quote]

All the more reason to use it! He has a pass for 70+yds, a run for 70+ yds. All he needs is a reception for 70+ yards. (can he return kicks?)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;975081]All the more reason to use it! He has a pass for 70+yds, a run for 70+ yds. All he needs is a reception for 70+ yards. (can he return kicks?)[/quote]i heard cousins gets the nod at qb, griff will start at fs