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[quote=SmootSmack;985669]Smootsmack can confirm that Smoot is at least partially right.[/quote]

Please be whatever is the less severe of the two...

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;985670]Looks like Cousins will start the season in 2013. If Kirk's playing lights out, we're 9-1, and RGIII's healthy by week 11... do we roll with Kirk or start Griffin?[/quote]

Well from history we can expect the WRONG decision

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If the report is true will have to call it the Strasburg syndrome except that it's a knee.

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ahhh this is a shame.. im nervous for the 3 pm presser... let's hope for the best and forget the speculation for right now. positive thoughts folks.

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If this report is true: “Lucy (Shanny)! You got some ‘splainin’ to do!”

If he has to miss all of next season and its only January, that means he could possibly never be the same. Thats a long long injury recovery time.

I am not gonna believe it till I see it confirmed on ESPN. Inserting head into sand now.

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[url=http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/rgiii-knee-injury-seahawks/]RGIII's Knee Injury Vs. Seahawks (Video) | SportsGrid[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;985677]If the report is true will have to call it the Strasburg syndrome except that it's a knee.[/quote]

Funny how Strasburg got shut down, and the fan base complained. Griffin didn't get shut down and boy is the fan base going to complain now.

Crazy town DC

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;985673]as in partially but not as bad, or partially as in all that and the green eggs too?[/quote]

Partially as in I can confirm part of it, the other part I'm still waiting on

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[quote=SmootSmack;985685]Partially as in I can confirm part of it, the other part I'm still waiting on[/quote]

so can you confirm acl or pcl

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I think it's all but confirmed via twitter chat. ACL finito.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;985680]If this report is true: “Lucy (Shanny)! You got some ‘splainin’ to do!”

If he has to miss all of next season and its only January, that means he could possibly never be the same. Thats a long long injury recovery time.

I am not gonna believe it till I see it confirmed on ESPN. Inserting head into sand now.[/quote]


what does he have to explain? if he was indeed cleared to play by doctors for the past two games, then their is nothing to explain. its football people get injured. RG3 could have been a 100% healthy for this game and still torn his ACL. This is the monday morning QB going on in here, if he would have put in Kirk to start the second half and we lost the game people would be even more pissed.

I will only have a issue if the coaches played him and wasnt cleared by the doctors.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;985680]If this report is true: “Lucy (Shanny)! You got some ‘splainin’ to do!”

If he has to miss all of next season and its only January, that means he could possibly never be the same. Thats a long long injury recovery time.

I am not gonna believe it till I see it confirmed on ESPN. Inserting head into sand now.[/quote]
Especially after the Dr. Andrews report before the game. Andrews or Shanahan got some explaining to do if this is true.

Given his athleticism I. Bet he's back sooner than u think

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I have never been so nervous for a monday morning coaches interview after a game. Ughh, I can't focus at work now. Really don't want the bad news to get worse.

If you tear the same ACL twice does it have even more of an effect even if they are years apart? Or are they mutually exclusive of each other? If the reports are true I hope its the latter.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;985696]Given his athleticism I. Bet he's back sooner than u think[/quote]

How does athleticism relate to recovery time?

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per shanny, extent unknown

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MS talking now has no idea what is going on with knee, RG to see Andrews tomr.

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[quote=redskins5044;985692]what does he have to explain? if he was indeed cleared to play by doctors for the past two games, then their is nothing to explain. its football people get injured. RG3 could have been a 100% healthy for this game and still torn his ACL.[B][I] This is the monday morning QB going on in here, if he would have put in Kirk to start the second half and we lost the game people would be even more pisse[/I][/B]d.

I will only have a issue if the coaches played him and wasnt cleared by the doctors.[/quote]

Not true,you had to be blind or not very perceptive to see RG3 reinjured that knee on his rollout in the first qtr.I wanted him pulled then,but as he continued to play that just reaffrmed it.I would have been a lot happier today if Cousins played even if we lost knowing Shanny did the right thing.He's taken all that goodwill he's built up over the last 8 games and dumped it in the shitter

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As per RGIII's twitter account a couple of minutes ago....... "When adversity strikes you respond in one of two ways... You step aside and give in... Or you step up and fight."

I don't know what that means but it sounds bad to me.

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Per, @ESPNRadio980 spoke w/ESPN Ortho specialist Dr. Kaplan. His opinion, looking at photos, RG3 has torn ACL/MCL & would start '13 on PUP list.
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Probably talking about the game and why he stayed in.

Looks like he'll b out for sure week 1

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[quote=scowan;985726]As per RGIII's twitter account a couple of minutes ago....... "When adversity strikes you respond in one of two ways... You step aside and give in... Or you step up and fight."

I don't know what that means but it sounds bad to me.[/quote]

Well we for sure thought AP was done too....better go see his doctor. Who here would like to see RGIII put on some weight maybe?

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[quote=htownskinfan;985723]Not true,you had to be blind or not very perceptive to see RG3 reinjured that knee on his rollout in the first qtr.I wanted him pulled then,but as he continued to play that just reaffrmed it.I would have been a lot happier today if Cousins played even if we lost knowing Shanny did the right thing.He's taken all that goodwill he's built up over the last 8 games and dumped it in the shitter[/quote]

Thats easy for you to make that call from your couch. it is done with, game is over. There will never be more of explanation of why he stayed in the game from Shanny than he gave yesterday nor will he forced to provide one. Unless he was told by doctors that he shouldnt go back in the game and he ignored their advice.

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[quote=12thMan;985727]Per, @ESPNRadio980 spoke w/ESPN Ortho specialist Dr. Kaplan. His opinion, looking at photos, RG3 has torn ACL/MCL & would start '13 on PUP list.
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What pictures though? Just pictures of game film?

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[quote=12thMan;985727]Per, @ESPNRadio980 spoke w/ESPN Ortho specialist Dr. Kaplan. His opinion, looking at photos, RG3 has torn ACL/MCL & would start '13 on PUP list.
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How about we wait for his actual doctor who is doing the MRI instead of a TV doctor looking at highlight reels?

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[quote=Monkeydad;985747]How about we wait for his actual doctor who is doing the MRI instead of a TV doctor looking at highlight reels?[/quote]

he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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[quote=redskins5044;985748]he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.[/quote]

Explain that one to me...lol

and yeah I agree lets let the doctors decide this one. I think it just gave out on him...thats what happens when you don't have 100% ligament support.

[QUOTE=ashvirtually;985580]Punch It In, you do have a point, but when Cap'n Kirk [I]did[/I] go in, he went 4-11 (or was it 10?) and something like 30-odd yards. Can we PLEASE give the Number 1 defense in the league some credit here, too?

The Seahawks aren't the Browns.

And I'm sorry, I have no problem with Shanahan giving the guy who carried the team to the playoffs the opportunity to try and work it out through the pain and find a way to win. I just don't.

That said, screw the 'Hawks now. I like Wilson and can't even root for him any more because of how dirty those effers played last night. They have been upgraded to Cowpoke- and Iggles-level hate. Eff them.[/QUOTE]

He went in with a defeated team around him and a deflated stadium. Its ok. I will always wonder what could have been. So will MS by his own admission. Rg-3 injury against ravens was a freak thing and i expect this team to be firing on all cylinders and lighting up this league for years to come. Future is brite. Httr.
Edit : with KC or Griff. I firmly believe either one can win. I firmly believe KC would have won last nite. Whats done is done. We became a team this year.

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So we know just as much now as we did before the press conference.

Which is that it looked very bad and little else.

Sigh.

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[quote=mbedner3420;985595]Twitter reports from HTTR24_7 suggest RG3 is out for 2013 campaign... Not good news[/quote]

Then there's these types of opposite, optimistic reports.
[quote]
Robert Griffin III will fly down to Pensacola on Tuesday for an MRI with Dr. James Andrews.
[B]Andrews will make a "full evaluation" of Griffin's knee, which was problematic for the final month of the 2012 season. Shanahan otherwise provided no updates. The Redskins sound optimistic that Griffin didn't tear any knee ligaments, but he clearly aggravated his prior LCL sprain and will need plenty of rest time. Jan 7 - 3:12 PM[/B]


[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7406/robert-griffin-iii"]Robert Griffin III - Washington Redskins - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/URL]
[/quote]Seriously, no one knows yet and we shouldn't listen to anyone but his actual doctors.

Lets stop throwing out Chicken Little rumors because someone has a Twitter account or gets their mug on ESPN.

We just have to wait...no reason to panic until we have facts.

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[quote=Monkeydad;985753]Then there's these types of opposite, optimistic reports.

Seriously, no one knows yet and we shouldn't listen to anyone but his actual doctors.

Lets stop throwing out Chicken Little rumors because someone has a Twitter account or gets their mug oh ESPN.

We just have to wait...no reason to panic until we have facts.[/quote]OMFG thank you for this.

All this negativity has been taking a hold on my ability to forgive last night and my optimism.

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[quote=Monkeydad;985753]Then there's these types of opposite, optimistic reports.

Seriously, no one knows yet and we shouldn't listen to anyone but his actual doctors.

Lets stop throwing out Chicken Little rumors because someone has a Twitter account or gets their mug oh ESPN.

We just have to wait...no reason to panic until we have facts.[/quote]

pfft, he is flying to see Dr. Andrews(wasn't he on the sideline yesterday?) and when was the last time someone flew to Dr Andrews office and walked out smiling?

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[quote=Monkeydad;985753]Then there's these types of opposite, optimistic reports.

Seriously, no one knows yet and we shouldn't listen to anyone but his actual doctors.

Lets stop throwing out Chicken Little rumors because someone has a Twitter account or gets their mug oh ESPN.

We just have to wait...no reason to panic until we have facts.[/quote]

Even if its torn after the AP thing I doubt very highly he's out for 2013 if anything I count him out the preseason and camp

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I can't imagine anyone would expect Shanahan to address it in his presser prior to receiving the actual diagnosis.

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[quote=punch it in;985750][B]He went in with a defeated team around him and a deflated stadium. Its ok. I will always wonder what could have been. So will MS by his own admission.[/B] Rg-3 injury against ravens was a freak thing and i expect this team to be firing on all cylinders and lighting up this league for years to come. Future is brite. Httr.[/quote]I know, man. I know. :(

As always, man, HTTR.

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How can you know on January 7, 2013 that a player will be out for next year when "next year" doesn't start until probably September 8th 2013? That's 8 months away!! Is everyone with a twitter account and expert? HTTR24_7? Who is that anyway and why should be care?

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No matter the injury, I have 100% faith in RGIII that he will do whatever it takes to get healthy as fast as possible. I heard a twitter rumor that he is ordering a gallon of Adrian Peterson's sweat to begin the healing process.

*wow I am dyslexic sometimes, originally spelled rumor as roomer. This knee has my mind all messed up.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;985759]pfft, he is flying to see Dr. Andrews(wasn't he on the sideline yesterday?) and when was the last time someone flew to Dr Andrews office and walked out smiling?[/quote]

It depends on if he prescribed good pain meds.