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Ahhh Dimentia, that explains it

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1000082]I am not looking forward to the day I turn 27. Oh man.[/quote]

Yeah, I did 4 months ago. It. IS. ROUGH. Whew, watch out…. ;)

Yeah... after I turned 27, I just couldn't go on. I've been struggling to recover from the emotional devastation for the last 23 years!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1000107]Yeah... after I turned 27, I just couldn't go on. I've been struggling to recover from the emotional devastation for the last 23 years![/quote]

How have you been able to hold on???

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1000109]How have you been able to hold on???[/quote]

LOTS of emotional support from his amazing brother!!


(oh and his dogs, wife, kids, other extended family)

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Good thing I've got another 2+ years before I turn 27, I better live it up while I can.

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Man, this offseason idle chatter is brutal.

Oh yeah, I'm 27 (+40), don't worry young'uns it just keeps getting better...

Heck, I've been a Skins fan 47 years this summer. Lotta lean years and some really, really good one's. And there's more coming!

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So Adam schefter says that the Bills ate with Fred Davis last night.

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Seems like Davis is waiting (or hoping) for a team to jump in and offer him better money, which means Redskins is his last choice?

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Id take half the money in a one year deal rather than get a long term shit deal in Buffalo New York with someone like JP Losman or Fitzpatrick as my QB.




Plus, dont the Bills have a solid couple of TE's...............

I call BS on this one. Davis knows he wants Griffin throwing him the ball, like I said, it means more money NEXT year, AND he will be on a contender and not stuck with lake efffect snow.....................

at this point, if FDavis doesn't want to stay then let him go, I doubt he will make more of a name elsewhere, and paying big money when he's one strike away is not a smart move.

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There's no evidence Davis wants to leave. Other teams showing interest in him increasing his leverage with the skins. I would be surprised if Davis doesn't come back on a 1 year deal, then well sign him to a multi year deal next offseason

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To be honest I think Davis just wants to be paid. He was out drinking on Saturday nights during the season, has been suspended already, he can't stay out of trouble and probably doesnt care about a legacy, he cares about money. Yes, he's our best TE and arguably best receiver besides garçon, but he seems like he just wants money, if the bills sign him to a 5 year contract with alot of it guaranteed I'm sure hell take it over a 1 year deal with us. He's been banged up and we did fine without him last season.

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1000132]There's no evidence Davis wants to leave. Other teams showing interest in him increasing his leverage with the skins. I would be surprised if Davis doesn't come back on a 1 year deal, then well sign him to a multi year deal next offseason[/QUOTE]

I would say that at this point the fact that he hasn't signed is a sign he isn't fully on board with staying. Certainly he knows the market for his services, and what the Skins can put on paper. The only mitigating info is if he and the Skins have to wait for a Jun 1st cut to free up cap space.

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More money, more weed. :)

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I would sign Fred Davis to a 2 year deal that would pay him $1 mill this year and if he's healthy it will pay him $4.5~$5.75 mill in year 2. But if he isn't healthy, the 2nd year is voidable and we can cut him.

Also theres so many TEs in this draft that are 5 madden points better/worse than Fred Davis. :)
But seriously there really are a lot of TEs in this draft that can be better or just as effective as Fred was last year in this offense.

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1000134]I would say that at this point the fact that he hasn't signed is a sign he isn't fully on board with staying. Certainly he knows the market for his services, and what the Skins can put on paper. [B] The only mitigating info is if he and the Skins have to wait for a Jun 1st cut to free up cap space.[/b][/QUOTE]

I am pretty sure that the June 1st cut date is no longer significant. Under the current rules, you can cut a player pre- June 1st and designate them a June 1st cut. The rules were changed b/c, formerly, players cut June 1st typically had already lost out on the big money of early free agency.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1000137]I am pretty sure that the June 1st cut date is no longer significant. Under the current rules, you can cut a player pre- June 1st and designate them a June 1st cut. The rules were changed b/c, formerly, players cut June 1st typically had already lost out on the big money of early free agency.[/quote]

My understanding is that you can cut and designate a June 1st, but the salary cap space isn't freed up until the Jun 1st date. So that even if we cut someone early, we can't take advantage of any increase in cap space until Jun 1st. The designation is for the player's sake like you said, but the team still has to wait to use any freed space.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1000136][B]I would sign Fred Davis to a 2 year deal that would pay him $1 mill this year and if he's healthy it will pay him $4.5~$5.75 mill in year 2. But if he isn't healthy, the 2nd year is voidable and we can cut him.[/B]

Also theres so many TEs in this draft that are 5 madden points better/worse than Fred Davis. :)
But seriously there really are a lot of TEs in this draft that can be better or just as effective as Fred was last year in this offense.[/quote]

Not sure if you are serious, but why in the world would FDavis sign that type of deal?

I agree with your second point. FDavis could be a top 10 TE, but he hasn't displayed the consistency that would make him invaluable yet.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1000141]Not sure if you are serious, but why in the world would FDavis sign that type of deal?

I agree with your second point. FDavis could be a top 10 TE, but he hasn't displayed the consistency that would make him invaluable yet.[/quote]

Well yes, I am serious about the first part. Right now other people are saying 2.5 as opposed to 1 mill; I'm 1.5 mill off from what the crowd thinks, but Fred isn't healthy and there is no guarantee he'll be healthy by training camp or for the whole season. I think a million is a great amount. Fred would/should sign it because he knows that A) Washington is where he'll thrive B) he isn't that healthy C) no one really wants him D) he'll get $1 million guaranteed if he isn't healthy/sucks

If we sign F. Davis great but if we don't I could care less. He & his agent is dragging this out way to long.

I prefer not to have people on our team with the attitude that he seems to possess. Grow up, stay out of the clubs & invest your time in your craft. Davis is the prime example of a player who will be broke shortly after being out of the NFL for a few years.

per Adam Schefter

Redskins free-agent TE Fred Davis is scheduled to visit Bills on Wednesday. Jets and Redskins also interested.


good luck with those teams Freddy

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i smell a 1 year prove it deal right here

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1000140]My understanding is that you can cut and designate a June 1st, but the salary cap space isn't freed up until the Jun 1st date. So that even if we cut someone early, we can't take advantage of any increase in cap space until Jun 1st. The designation is for the player's sake like you said, but the team still has to wait to use any freed space.[/QUOTE]

Gotcha.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1000146]per Adam Schefter

Redskins free-agent TE Fred Davis is scheduled to visit Bills on Wednesday. Jets and Redskins also interested.


good luck with those teams Freddy[/quote]

If he does sign with the Bills or Jets it's definitely all about the money. And considering he's coming off an injury I don't see why either of them would give him a big money deal anyways, so he'd essentially be saying F the Redskins. Either that or he's using them as leverage in negotiations with us. If I were the Redskins though, I'd be asking him if he'd rather be playing with an unknown qb with the Bills, or whatever cluster**** will be starting at qb for the Jets, vs. playing with RG3. There's no way he thinks that either of those options are better than RG3.

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I think Fred Davis has the potential to be a top 5 or even top 3 TE in this league. However, if he and his agent want to drag this out, possibly going to Buffalo nor the Jets...let him walk. Good luck with your career in those places. We are building something special here , if he is unwilling to stay...peace out. We basically won the division without him. This is more than just a team we are building, we are building a culture. Why would anyone choose to go to Buffalo or the sideshow Jets Oliver playing for a Super Bowl winning coach and with a stud QB AND leader in RG3? I'd rather ride with a dude like Paulsen.

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Fred knows that if he is going to shine it is going to be here bc the Bills and Jets are a mess and so is the QB pool for the draft.

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i agree with you all, Fred knows RG3 is his best option at qb by far from those teams, I also agree that he has the talent to be top 10, that being said I want him back but would not be heartbroken if he left. I think Griffin is good enough to make an athletic tight end that we could pick up in the draft look very good.

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There is basically no market for Fred Davis. I mean zilch. He's stuck and he's knows it. Might as well sign a one year deal and hope for a bigger payday next year.

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[quote=tc2deuce;1000161]Fred knows that if he is going to shine it is going to be here bc the Bills and Jets are a mess and so is the QB pool for the draft.[/quote]

The Bills are a mess, but he could still put up numbers in their offense with F. Jackson, S.Johnson distracting defenses. He could go there, have a payday, put up some good stats, and then smoke his way out of the league.. Depends on what he wants to do.

Then again, if he wants to win games and play in a big market with $$ endorsement potential, he could sign with us, take a paycut x 1 year and then get paid big-time next year..

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I don't fault Davis for trying to get a long term deal with guaranteed money. He has potential and any player is going to try to shop around to see if there is a better deal out there. He'd be stupid not to do this, especially since the Redskins are cash-strapped. Given the nature of football, very few players have the luxury to stay with a team for less money or give up the opportunity to get a better deal elsewhere.

Only thing in worried about is people keep talking about how much money we will have next year. While I would prefer we get a couple guys. I love that I didn't hear much day 1. Even if we have tons of cap space, which with a flat cap is debatable, I don't want to fall into the buy everybody mentality.

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[quote=VegasSkinsFan;1000172]Only thing in worried about is people keep talking about how much money we will have next year. While I would prefer we get a couple guys. I love that I didn't hear much day 1. Even if we have tons of cap space, which with a flat cap is debatable, I don't want to fall into the buy everybody mentality.[/quote]

Buying everybody is only bad if you overspend for over-the-hill guys. If youre buying pierre garcon and london fletcher types, you should get as many of those guys as you can.

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[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1579574-fred-davis-a-familiar-face-to-police-29-traffic-tickets-in-virginia-since-2008]Fred Davis a Familiar Face to Police: 29 Traffic Tickets in Virginia Since 2008 | Bleacher Report[/url]

Scheed is not gonna like this driving record....

How is he still able to drive? WTF

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Freddie clearly isn't the sharpest tack. He can ball though, that's all I really care about.

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[quote=Chico23231;1000193][url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1579574-fred-davis-a-familiar-face-to-police-29-traffic-tickets-in-virginia-since-2008]Fred Davis a Familiar Face to Police: 29 Traffic Tickets in Virginia Since 2008 | Bleacher Report[/url]

Scheed is not gonna like this driving record....

How is he still able to drive? WTF[/quote]

His insurance premiums must be ridiculous.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1000197]His insurance premiums must be ridiculous.[/quote]

That's why he's holding out for more money, The Geiko Gecko said he didn't pass the eyeball test, State Farm discount undouble-checked him, and All State wanted to give him the Not Safe Driver Discount.

You would think after that many violations a judge would suspend his license or something.

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He's cost himself alot of money, with all the off field garbage. I think he's a great TE, but I wouldn't offer him very much.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1000198]That's why he's holding out for more money, The Geiko Gecko said he didn't pass the eyeball test, State Farm discount undouble-checked him, and All State wanted to give him the Not Safe Driver Discount.

You would think after that many violations a judge would suspend his license or something.[/quote]

If i would imagine it IS suspended, since some of the penalties were for driving on a suspended liscence.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1000198]That's why he's holding out for more money, The Geiko Gecko said he didn't pass the eyeball test, State Farm discount undouble-checked him, and All State wanted to give him the Not Safe Driver Discount.

You would think after that many violations a judge would suspend his license or something.[/quote]

I bet Flo from Progressive would hook him up.