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Well, he certainly got a lot of stuff.

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With apologies if this came up already, but I cannot believe Stephen A. Smith is sounding off like this: [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/05/20/stephen-a-smith-blames-rgiiis-fiancee-rebecca-liddicoat-for-gift-controversy/]Stephen A. Smith blames RGIII’s fiancee, Rebecca Liddicoat, for gift controversy[/url]

Seriously?! I think this article sums it up nicely.

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[quote=calia;1009665]With apologies if this came up already, but I cannot believe Stephen A. Smith is sounding off like this: [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/05/20/stephen-a-smith-blames-rgiiis-fiancee-rebecca-liddicoat-for-gift-controversy/]Stephen A. Smith blames RGIII’s fiancee, Rebecca Liddicoat, for gift controversy[/url]

Seriously?! I think this article sums it up nicely.[/quote]Wow, Stephen. For every thing that you say that has merit (like you did when Rob Parker got his ass fired for saying that racial crap about Robert last year and you immediately called it out of line), you say ten times as many retarded things that further unbalance the scales.

Jesus.

You and Skip and this type of stuff that passes for the majority of "sports journalism" at ESPN these days is the main reason I despise ESPN now. [U]NFL32[/U] and [U]30 for 30[/U] are seemingly the only things left of value on your network; the rest seems to be mostly trash and sensationalism posing as news. Very sad.

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[quote=calia;1009665]With apologies if this came up already, but I cannot believe Stephen A. Smith is sounding off like this: [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/05/20/stephen-a-smith-blames-rgiiis-fiancee-rebecca-liddicoat-for-gift-controversy/]Stephen A. Smith blames RGIII’s fiancee, Rebecca Liddicoat, for gift controversy[/url]

Seriously?! I think this article sums it up nicely.[/quote]

I don't even care about SAS. He has 0 credibility to me. I won't be shocked to see him somehow link the tornados to RG3s wedding gifts; he's that stupid and ridiculous.

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People still watch ESPN?

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[quote=RGIII;1009684]People still watch ESPN?[/quote]

Oddly enough, there are other sports than football.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1009686]Oddly enough, there are other sports than football.[/quote]

There is?

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[quote=RGIII;1009688]There is?[/quote]

Curling?

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I don't watch ESPN for NFL news that's for sure. I just watch the NFL Network.
This whole thing about fans giving RG3 and his soon to be wife gifts is silly. So everytime I give someone a gift that has more money than me I should be ashamed and they should feel guilty for accepting it? Or everytime some one gives me a gift that has less money than me, I should give it to charity? That's what it boils down to. A gift is just that a gift and in the case of the fans, who cares what their motivation is. Wheither it s a way of saying thanks to RG3 or just to tell their friends that they gave him a gift, its their money to spend as they please. I just got back from a vaction in Florida where I spent way too much on fruity drinks at the beach, but no one is going to tell me I'm crazy for doing that.

RG3 and RG2 need to stop talking about last years injury and the Seattle game. Quit blaming the coach with these stupid tweets and interviews, it was the whole organizations fault from Medical Staff to Coaches and to you RG3.

I love his play on the field but all these subtle jabs and shifting blame is getting annoying.

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[quote=redskins5044;1009758]RG3 and RG2 need to stop talking about last years injury and the Seattle game. Quit blaming the coach with these stupid tweets and interviews, it was all the whole organizations fault from Medical Staff to Coaches and to you RG3.

I love his play on the field but all these subtle jabs and shifting blame is getting annoying.[/quote]

Could not agree more. This is getting ridiculous. Why is his dad on TV? Why is RG3 and his gf going out to dinner with Snyder and his wife? All the jabs through the media and going back and forth regarding the Seattle game needs to stop. This is reminding me of the old days with all the BS drama. Someone needs to sit everyone down and tell everyone to STFU.

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49er's Crabtree likely out a year with a torn achilles. That sucks.

Edit: Dammit, this was meant for the NFL Off Season thread. Damn my crippling illiteracy!

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[quote=scowan;1009746]I don't watch ESPN for NFL news that's for sure. I just watch the NFL Network.
This whole thing about fans giving RG3 and his soon to be wife gifts is silly. So everytime I give someone a gift that has more money than me I should be ashamed and they should feel guilty for accepting it? Or everytime some one gives me a gift that has less money than me, I should give it to charity? That's what it boils down to. A gift is just that a gift and in the case of the fans, who cares what their motivation is. Wheither it s a way of saying thanks to RG3 or just to tell their friends that they gave him a gift, its their money to spend as they please. I just got back from a vaction in Florida where I spent way too much on fruity drinks at the beach, but no one is going to tell me I'm crazy for doing that.[/quote]

that is the liberal/socialist mindset in a nutshell. no gifts at all, unless everyone is equal. screw those rich people, nogiftsforyou. tey didnt build that, et cetera (insert democrat slogan here)

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[quote=skinsfan69;1009762]Could not agree more. This is getting ridiculous. Why is his dad on TV? Why is RG3 and his gf going out to dinner with Snyder and his wife? All the jabs through the media and going back and forth regarding the Seattle game needs to stop. This is reminding me of the old days with all the BS drama. Someone needs to sit everyone down and tell everyone to STFU.[/quote]

I haven't heard any of whatever you are talking about, but it sounds more like media looking for any story to do with Griffin. As for Griffin and Snyder having dinner, I imagine it's tied around the wedding.

If you don't want to hear it, just don't watch them.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1009690]Curling?[/quote]

Is that the game where one bowls him/herself down the lane with the "ball"?

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Everywhere I look RG3 is there...There is something about his character that leaves much to be desired. He's still young but to me he doesn't seem like a genuine person. He needs to shut his mouth and Tweeting, keep it real and moving.

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[quote=saden1;1009805]Everywhere I look RG3 is there...There is something about his character that leaves much to be desired. [B]He's still young but to me he doesn't seem like a genuine person.[/B] He needs to shut his mouth and Tweeting, keep it real and moving.[/quote]

Based off of??

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[quote=saden1;1009805]Everywhere I look RG3 is there...There is something about his character that leaves much to be desired. He's still young but to me he doesn't seem like a genuine person. He needs to shut his mouth and Tweeting, keep it real and moving.[/quote]

So because he's a person of dynamic character he should stop all communications? I hardly think he's to blame for a media who dissects and analyzes every word he says or letter he types. I never get te sense that he's actively trying to seek out the attention. I think most mediaites realize that RG3 is popular and, therefore, what he says has resonance with people.

I think once the honeymoon period is truly over and people start to obsess over the next big name, then he'll step away from the constant barrage of coverage.

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1009800]I haven't heard any of whatever you are talking about, but it sounds more like media looking for any story to do with Griffin. As for Griffin and Snyder having dinner, I imagine it's tied around the wedding.

If you don't want to hear it, just don't watch them.[/QUOTE]

Media isn't driving this, tweeting about crap that happened last year and making it seem like you didn't want to play and the coaches made him. Then his dad doing a interview and saying he should have been pulled out of the Seattle game and he hopes they change the offense this year.

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[quote=saden1;1009805]Everywhere I look RG3 is there...There is something about his character that leaves much to be desired. He's still young but to me he doesn't seem like a genuine person. He needs to shut his mouth and Tweeting, keep it real and moving.[/quote]

Judgmental much?

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Wow. Guess RG3 cant please everyone. I guess if he actually did something worth criticizing I'd understand it.

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[quote=redskins5044;1009812]Media isn't driving this, tweeting about crap that happened last year and making it seem like you didn't want to play and the coaches made him. [B]Then his dad doing a interview[/B] and saying he should have been pulled out of the Seattle game and he hopes they change the offense this year.[/quote]

I doubt that his dad called up media outlets saying "I NEED TO GET THIS OUT THERE" more likely the media knows that Griffin news gets viewers and asked his dad for an interview. At which point his dad has a right to express his views. For me that's the media driving it. Likewise, Griffin has answered repeatedly, and while he has never out and out said it's all on me, his answers have generally reflected what I think, in that everyone had a bit of the blame, and they all learned a little, and hopefully if that same situation happens, we see a different outcome.


Can you show me any tweets by Griffin that sound like he didn't want to play and coaches made him? I have never heard that spin by Griffin, and it certainly would be a wholesale change from what he had been saying.

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The problem is nobody took the responsibility to get him out of the game, probably because everyone assumed someone else held that responsibility. Whether you are of the mindset that the player needs to sit himself or that it's the coach who should make the call or if you think a sideline doctor or trainer needs to speak up. I'm sure lessons were learned. Now tweets are made and the world continues to spin. RG3 is probably light-heartedly stirring up stuff now just to get a good laugh at people's ridiculously misplaced prerogatives.

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So has RG3 actually said anything new recently about the Seattle game or are people still going off what he said about a month ago?

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Nothing new.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1009809]So because he's a person of dynamic character he should stop all communications? I hardly think he's to blame for a media who dissects and analyzes every word he says or letter he types. I never get te sense that he's actively trying to seek out the attention. I think most mediaites realize that RG3 is popular and, therefore, what he says has resonance with people.

I think once the honeymoon period is truly over and people start to obsess over the next big name, then he'll step away from the constant barrage of coverage.[/quote]

Why tweet about your life if your not wanting attention.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9304340/robert-griffin-jr-wants-robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-throw-more-run-less]Robert Griffin Jr. wants Robert Griffin III of Washington Redskins to throw more, run less - ESPN[/url]

This is a perfect example.

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Nothing new and now Jason Reid wrote an article saying "Shanny needs to revamp - RGIII obviuosly not happy". No indication that RGIII is unhappy or, really, for any of his assertions but it is now being discussed as if it were a fact.

Opinion morphs to factual information, welcome to the internet.

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[quote=firstdown;1009862]Why tweet about your life if your not wanting attention.[/quote]

Should everyone close down their twitter and Facebook accounts then?

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[quote=saden1;1009805]Everywhere I look RG3 is there...There is something about his character that leaves much to be desired.[B] He's still young but to me he doesn't seem like a genuine person. [/B]He needs to shut his mouth and Tweeting, keep it real and moving.[/quote]

Not genuine? Really? When the comment from everyone who meets him is that he makes you believe in him and want to be around him?

I don't know the guy from Adam, but, judging just on the reactions of those who have actually met him, he is everything he appears to be.

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Bottom line look at the game he got injured in, the Ravens game was a pass play that he scrambled and didnt get down quick enough. His injury was not due to the style of offense we played last year.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1009864]Opinion morphs to factual information, welcome to the internet.[/quote]

Word.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1009867]Not genuine? Really? When the comment from everyone who meets him is that he makes you believe in him and want to be around him?

I don't know the guy from Adam, but, judging just on the reactions of those who have actually met him, he is everything he appears to be.[/quote]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/05/22/jordan-reed-struck-by-rgiiis-humility/]Jordan Reed struck by RGIII’s humility[/url]

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I don't care about all of this made up problems with the staff, his ego, or anything else. This kid is a baller and the face of the franchise and is heading towards being the face of the NFL.

It will never end, but believe me I still love the kid we met about a year ago and still believe he is the same person as when he got here.

Man crush continues from ArtMonkforHall!!!

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[quote=redskins5044;1009863][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9304340/robert-griffin-jr-wants-robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-throw-more-run-less]Robert Griffin Jr. wants Robert Griffin III of Washington Redskins to throw more, run less - ESPN[/url]

This is a perfect example.[/quote]

again, the post did an interview with Griffin's dad. Who do you think set up the interview? (I put my money on the Post). Then ESPN carried it, wrapped it up in their writing and put a little more spin on it. That's what the media does. And that, to me, is a perfect example of a media driven issue.

I am sure many dads think their sons bosses could do things differently. The reason this gets playtime, is because stories about Griffin generate views. Thus they want more stories about Griffin.

I will say this, the best discussion I have seen from Griffin on the Seattle game, and the end of last season, came in the ESPN magazine a few weeks back. If you haven't read it, you should, it gives a very good portrait of the whole situation.

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John Keim is saying that griffin is looking good in OTAs planting his foot and throwing.
[url=http://wp.me/p14QSB-8YJC]RG3 on the field, throwing passes at Redskins’ OTAs | ProFootballTalk[/url]

@john_keim: Griffin is throwing during the ota session. Dropbacks. Plant and throw at times. Sometimes more off front foot. #Redskins

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[quote=Mechanix544;1009799]that is the liberal/socialist mindset in a nutshell. no gifts at all, unless everyone is equal. screw those rich people, nogiftsforyou. tey didnt build that, et cetera (insert democrat slogan here)[/quote]

That was a bizarre comment :saywhat:

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To many people worried about perception. The reality is the people who go on to win championships tend to believe that they can win championships. In other words, they are arrogant. I hope RG3 is arrogant. I dont want a choir boy, I want a SB victory.

Michael Jordan is not a nice guy. Never has been. But who exactly cares when you can put 6 rings on your fingers? If RG3 wins a SB as the Redskins QB, who exactly is going to care about twitter from after his rookie year? The only thing wrong with him accepting gifts is that he doesnt have a ring yet. If he did, no one would care.

We have to deal with the media and RG3's dad giving interviews. We used to have to deal with a team that was led by Vinny. I will take a talkative dad and media hype all day long over Vinny. Its not like hes married to a supermodel who goes on a drunken rage and bashes his team mates when they lose an important game, but then again, 2 rings justify that.

With success comes exposure, and it seems some would rather go back to a 3-13 record than deal with the media crap that comes with being relevant. I am thrilled RG3 is here, warts and all. People expect him to be perfect. You are just reaching way to far on what should be expected. Perfection is not going to happen.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1009877]John Keim is saying that griffin is looking good in OTAs planting his foot and throwing.
[url=http://wp.me/p14QSB-8YJC]RG3 on the field, throwing passes at Redskins’ OTAs | ProFootballTalk[/url]

@john_keim: Griffin is throwing during the ota session. Dropbacks. Plant and throw at times. Sometimes more off front foot. #Redskins[/quote]

*snap*
:madani:

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Pretty amazing that he's planting and throwing.