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mredskins 04-29-2013 10:15 AM

Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
 
[quote=Chico23231;1006870]That was a good idea. Why dont you go ahead and do that?[/quote]


Too lazy. =)

SmootSmack 04-29-2013 10:21 AM

Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
 
I believe Slay was #1 CB in their board but any confirm

I do know they tried to trade down before they drafted Amerson. I don't know if they were hoping to trade down and still get Amerson

Chico23231 04-29-2013 10:29 AM

Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
 
[quote=SmootSmack;1006875]I believe Slay was #1 CB in their board but any confirm

I do know they tried to trade down before they drafted Amerson. I don't know if they were hoping to trade down and still get Amerson[/quote]

Makes sense. I but it was tough sledding trying to trade down. Im happy with Amerson, but I thought as our position approached and certain CB came off the board we would go WR...and maybe Safety

Monkeydad 04-29-2013 10:53 AM

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I'm saying 'A'.


We LOADED up our secondary! The players we took could all be starters for us and they were drafted with great value for where they were taken, especially Rambo. All three of them are getting me excited. We could lead the NFL in INTs and Forced Fumbles this year!

Aside from that, if Fred Davis is healthy we could have a New Engliand-like 1-2 punch at tight end. We're fine at WR for the short-term so adding a big weapon at TE and much-needed depth at RB was smart.

Throw in another LB and that's an awesome draft we just had.

We kept talking about "we need a tackle!" all offseason. Think about this fact though, we had the #1 running attack in the NFL and RGIII's biggest hits all came outside of the pocket...so they also protected him well when he stayed at home. If healthy, Pashos is a solid lineman. Trueblood is decent for depth, wouldn't want him as a starter. Also, in the 2012 draft, we took a lot of promising linemen who we haven't seen much of yet in Leribeus, Compton and Gettis. They may step up this year. Our line is solid at 4/5 positions and I think right tackle talent will be sufficient even though not outstanding.

The two RBs taken are Darren Sproles-sized, so perhaps Shanahan has an idea for this already-dangerous offense? Morris' power and a small elusive back who can catch on the field together?

Bruce and Mike, geniuses again. All of our secondary picks were guys who graded MUCH higher than where they were picked and Reed was graded as the 3rd-best TE in the draft, and we grabbed in in Round 3. Well done again. We have not seen a bad draft from this regime yet.

SBXVII 04-29-2013 12:01 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1006621]I think we made out pretty dag on good. Give it a B+. Safeties, CB, RBs...looks like a good balance. The wild card is Jordan Reed. Woulda liked a WR, but he may be able to fill a playmaking ability that WR coulda brought us. The Jordan Reed pick says Niles Paul and Fred Davis need to bring their A game to camp.[/quote]

Heard them talking about Reed on the radio today and they said he's another Niles Paul in the blocking department however he has soft hands and can catch. What we know is he was a QB in high school and was picked up for college to be a QB. After getting hurt the team picked up a new QB so when he got healthy they moved him to H-Back, WR, and TE. Supposedly he is very fast and works out well in the WR spot, he has really good hands and with his size has done well in the TE spot.

The announcers brought up that he's perfect for the Option plays. He can either be thrown to for a run or he can even throw the ball himself in the option. It opens up more doors that Davis, Paul, and Paulson can not do.

skinsfaninok 04-29-2013 12:05 PM

[IMG]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/30/jesy6epe.jpg[/IMG]

lol good ol Eli

SBXVII 04-29-2013 12:08 PM

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Also some where upset we didn't go after a RT. I'm hearing that after the top few OT's most of the players were not players you would throw in and start, in other words they most likely would need some work and maybe a year under their belts.

I guess I'm happy with what we got. I gave a B for their grade. We got what we needed other then OL and WR, but if any of the UDFA's turn out to be something then we should be ok. I know some call them camp fodder but sometimes there are diamonds in the rough and there was a ton of good talent that dropped to later rounds or didn't get drafted.

Look at Xavier Nixon for example. He's top talent. They just need to fine tune him a little and he might make a decent RT.

MTK 04-29-2013 12:19 PM

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This was the first year since Shanahan has been here that he didn't draft any OL. I'll take that as a strong sign that he's satisfied with what we've got.

Monkeydad 04-29-2013 12:21 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;1006907]He can either be thrown to for a run or he can even throw the ball himself in the option. It opens up more doors that Davis, Paul, and Paulson can not do.[/quote]

Wow...a TE who can throw. I think we just scored.

The most ironic part, this converted QB is from the Florida Gators. He's like Tim Tebow who realized he won't be an NFL QB early on and found another way to make it.

Speaking of Tim, he's now apparently open to playing TE somewhere.

artmonkforhallofamein07 04-29-2013 12:28 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1006917]This was the first year since Shanahan has been here that he didn't draft any OL. I'll take that as a strong sign that he's satisfied with what we've got.[/quote]

Or he didn't see one that was worth a pick. Either way I am good with the RT spot and I trust in those that are making the decisions in Ashburn.

Meks 04-29-2013 12:41 PM

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i think we got almost EXACTLY who we wanted in this draft and Shanallen is prolly pretty pleased with the list of players we got.. i trust that they followed the plan they had in place and i trust this was a good draft at first look.

mredskins 04-29-2013 12:52 PM

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"I'm all in for Week 1, just like you guys are."

-- Robert Griffin III, the rehabbing Washington quarterback, at the club's draft party for fans over the weekend. He jumped up and down on stage, and the crowd reacted like a packed house at a Jay-Z show.

Read More: [url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-nfl-draft/news/20130429/nfl-draft-peter-king-monday-morning-quarterback/#ixzz2Rs8HSoUg]2013 NFL Draft -- Tavon Austin, Geno Smith, Tyrann Mathieu and more thoughts - Peter King - SI.com[/url]

KI Skins Fan 04-29-2013 12:53 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;1006912]Look at Xavier Nixon for example. He's top talent. They just need to fine tune him a little and he might make a decent RT.[/quote]

He has the size and athletic ability to succeed. Lack of motivation is said to be his problem. Now he has a chance despite whatever happened in his football past. If he seizes the opportunity, I think he can make the team.

Monkeydad 04-29-2013 01:33 PM

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[quote=mredskins;1006924]"I'm all in for Week 1, just like you guys are."

-- Robert Griffin III, the rehabbing Washington quarterback, at the club's draft party for fans over the weekend. He jumped up and down on stage, and the crowd reacted like a packed house at a Jay-Z show.

Read More: [URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-nfl-draft/news/20130429/nfl-draft-peter-king-monday-morning-quarterback/#ixzz2Rs8HSoUg"]2013 NFL Draft -- Tavon Austin, Geno Smith, Tyrann Mathieu and more thoughts - Peter King - SI.com[/URL][/quote]

Saw a clip of him doing jumping backs at the Fed-Ex party on CSN this morning.

CultBrennan59 04-29-2013 01:45 PM

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[quote=Monkeydad;1006941]Saw a clip of him doing jumping backs at the Fed-Ex party on CSN this morning.[/quote]

You know what would have been funny; if he pulled a Willy Wonka, and started jumping then fell to the ground and started holding his knee like he was in pain, gotten up running and doing more jumping jacks and backflips on stage.

mbedner3420 04-29-2013 01:47 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1006954]You know what would have been funny; if he pulled a Willy Wonka, and started jumping then fell to the ground and started holding his knee like he was in pain, gotten up running and doing more jumping jacks and backflips on stage.[/quote]

Haha that would have been amazing.

Monkeydad 04-29-2013 01:57 PM

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[quote=mbedner3420;1006956]Haha that would have been amazing.[/quote]

Not if he hurt himself.

Gtothearry 04-29-2013 02:08 PM

[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;1006871]And I really appreciate that Trent played through pain. However the fact that it was serious enough to be an issue worth mentioning scares me, a lot in fact. Hopefully he's fully healed going into next year.[/QUOTE]

It was just a bruised thigh right?

Gtothearry 04-29-2013 02:14 PM

[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1006925]He has the size and athletic ability to succeed. Lack of motivation is said to be his problem. Now he has a chance despite whatever happened in his football past. If he seizes the opportunity, I think he can make the team.[/QUOTE]

Motivation was the knock on TW as well. I think the Skins locker room now pushes others to succeed & I think Nixon will fall right in line.

NYCskinfan82 04-29-2013 02:20 PM

Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;1006954]You know what would have been funny; if [B]he pulled a Willy Wonka[/B], and started jumping then fell to the ground and started holding his knee like he was in pain, gotten up running and doing more jumping jacks and backflips on stage.[/quote]

I thought the same thing when I saw that.

mredskins 04-29-2013 03:07 PM

Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;1006954]You know what would have been funny; if he pulled a Willy Wonka, and started jumping then fell to the ground and started holding his knee like he was in pain, gotten up running and doing more jumping jacks and backflips on stage.[/quote]


Or if he did this.........


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNBl_XIUzgQ]Peter hurts his knee - YouTube[/ame]

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-29-2013 03:23 PM

Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
 
[quote=mredskins;1006971]Or if he did this.........


[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNBl_XIUzgQ]Peter hurts his knee - YouTube[/url][/quote]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0]Mentos Commercial: Paint Suit - YouTube[/ame]

Or this.

Alvin Walton 04-29-2013 04:29 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1006973][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0]Mentos Commercial: Paint Suit - YouTube[/url]

Or this.[/quote]

Jeez....those Mentos commercials are sooo sappy.

mbedner3420 04-29-2013 04:32 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1006973][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0]Mentos Commercial: Paint Suit - YouTube[/url]

Or this.[/quote]

Man, that suit still looks like complete shit... terrible commercial

Mechanix544 04-29-2013 05:14 PM

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[quote=mbedner3420;1006987]Man, that suit still looks like complete shit... terrible commercial[/quote]

exactly. It looks ****in worse than it did. I always thought that.

Mechanix544 04-29-2013 05:16 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1006984]Jeez....those Mentos commercials are sooo sappy.[/quote]

I'd say they are cheesy instead of sappy.......but I get ya.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-29-2013 05:23 PM

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[quote=Mechanix544;1006991]exactly. It looks ****in worse than it did. I always thought that.[/quote]

That is why you need Mentos, to justify your questionable problem solving skills.

JoeRedskin 04-29-2013 05:27 PM

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1006996]That is why you need Mentos, to justify your questionable problem solving skills.[/QUOTE]

F'ng brilliant.

Paintrain 04-29-2013 06:41 PM

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[quote=mbedner3420;1006987]Man, that suit still looks like complete shit... terrible commercial[/quote]

Lol, he deserves to be punched in the face.

tjmorgan 04-29-2013 10:15 PM

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As an NCSU grad and lifelong fan, Amerson could be huge, but he can also be a huge risk. I too believe they may have plans to move him to safety. I watched him get burned last year over and over on the double move, so he has to learn not to bite. But he has a knack for finding the fall in the air!!!!

Bucket 04-29-2013 10:48 PM

Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
 
Amerson will stay at CB. I'm really confident that him and Rambo will be starting in our secondary before the year is over.

InterceptSkins ftw

Jawan looks like a excellent back for Shanny's offense too. I'm really excited to see him get some snaps.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-29-2013 11:05 PM

Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
 
[quote=Bucket;1007023]Amerson will stay at CB. I'm really confident that him and Rambo will be starting in our secondary before the year is over.

InterceptSkins ftw

Jawan looks like a excellent back for Shanny's offense too. I'm really excited to see him get some snaps.[/quote]

I feel Amerson, Thomas, and Rambo will all be starting by the end of the year. Amerson and Thomas week one, Rambo by week 4.

Bucket 04-29-2013 11:07 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1007026]I feel Amerson, Thomas, and Rambo will all be starting by the end of the year. Amerson and Thomas week one, Rambo by week 4.[/quote]

I feel like Thomas will get a lot of reps, but being more natural at the SS position.. I don't see him beating out Merriweather. I understand our safety positions are interchangeable but you still need that deep field cover.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-29-2013 11:11 PM

Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
 
[quote=Bucket;1007027]I feel like Thomas will get a lot of reps, but being more natural at the SS position.. I don't see him beating out Merriweather. I understand our safety positions are interchangeable but you still need that deep field cover.[/quote]

See that is where I disagree, I think he will beat out Merriweather. My eventual starting secondary will be:

CB: David Amerson
CB: Josh Wilson or EJ Biggers
NCB: DeAngelo Hall (Hopefully Crawford or Minnifield can show they can handle it)
FS: Baccari Rambo
SS: Phillip Thomas

Lotus 04-29-2013 11:45 PM

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IMO I am less optimistic about the rooks in the secondary in the immediate future. According to Bill Polian, you are doing well if you hit on 50% of your picks. This means that one or two of our three picks will develop, over time, into starters. Following this premise, at least one of our three picks will be a dud.

I think that maybe one of those secondary guys will start right away. And, following Greg Blache, that rookie will sometimes thrill and sometimes break our hearts.

I'm still happy that we drafted who we did.

Bucket 04-29-2013 11:53 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1007029]See that is where I disagree, I think he will beat out Merriweather. My eventual starting secondary will be:

CB: David Amerson
CB: Josh Wilson or EJ Biggers
NCB: DeAngelo Hall (Hopefully Crawford or Minnifield can show they can handle it)
FS: Baccari Rambo
SS: Phillip Thomas[/quote]

So you have Hall going from #1 to not even in the starting lineup? Interesting.

Maybe I'm optimistic, but I'm not willing to throw three rookies in to the starting lineup with even a practice under their belt

CRedskinsRule 04-29-2013 11:54 PM

[QUOTE=Lotus;1007031]IMO I am less optimistic about the rooks in the secondary in the immediate future. According to Bill Polian, you are doing well if you hit on 50% of your picks. This means that one or two of our three picks will develop, over time, into starters. Following this premise, at least one of our three picks will be a dud.

I think that maybe one of those secondary guys will start right away. And, following Greg Blache, that rookie will sometimes thrill and sometimes break our hearts.

I'm still happy that we drafted who we did.[/QUOTE]

I agree. It's unlikely all 3 DBs hit their potential, but that's why I am glad we didn't take one and call the problem solved. We definitely had roster room to. bring these guys in, so now its up to them to earn their spots. I do think the young competition will only make the older vets better. Regardless of who starts, our defensive backfield will be a lot better this year and going forward.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-30-2013 12:04 AM

Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
 
[quote=Bucket;1007034]So you have Hall going from #1 to not even in the starting lineup? Interesting.

Maybe I'm optimistic, but I'm not willing to throw three rookies in to the starting lineup with even a practice under their belt[/quote]

In this day and age nickel corner is technically starting but I dont see him on the team after this season so yeah. I think Amerson will turn into a number one.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-30-2013 12:05 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1007035][B]I agree. It's unlikely all 3 DBs hit their potential[/B], but that's why I am glad we didn't take one and call the problem solved. We definitely had roster room to. bring these guys in, so now its up to them to earn their spots. I do think the young competition will only make the older vets better. Regardless of who starts, our defensive backfield will be a lot better this year and going forward.[/quote]

I am going to need you to not ruin my dream of the greatest secondary draft of all time.

Here. Have a Mentos...........................

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ6AStLUZcw]Mentos Commercial - Hannibal Lecter - YouTube[/ame]

Bucket 04-30-2013 12:09 AM

Re: Draft wrap-up 2013
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1007038]In this day and age nickel corner is technically starting but I dont see him on the team after this season so yeah. I think Amerson will turn into a number one.[/quote]

I was going off of what you had in parentheses.


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