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[quote=over the mountain;1013085]i am really on the fence on whether i want to own a gun or not.

right now we live in a very safe neighborhood and have no need for protection but . . [/quote]

Most robberies/home invasions are going to occur in a better neighborhood rather than a poor one cos the better ones have the good stuff.

Always own and use a handgun responsibly, make sure to drill with it to ensure you'll be on autopilot when the shit hits. Don't keep it in a safe, you don't have time to unlock a safe when the door gets kicked through.

Don't buy into the liberal BS of 'gun nuts'. There are crazies in every sphere of life.

Right now someone, somewhere is lubing a lifesize model of Eli Manning crafted from Edam cheese. Probably it's GiantOne. I have no proof, all the evidence is there thought, I'm sure.

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[quote=mredskins;1013249]if only they had had a gun in the home.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfLfI7pxr68"]Scary home invasion caught on tape in Millburn, New Jersey - YouTube[/URL][/quote]



Then she and her little girl would be dead .If he got in fast enough for her not to call the police then she never would have had a chance with a gun , something doesn't seem right about that video either. With all the high end homes in that town and Short Hills the guy sure didn't pick the right house.

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[quote=Giantone;1013264]Then she and her little girl would be dead .If he got in fast enough for her not to call the police then she never would have had a chance with a gun , something doesn't seem right about that video either. With all the high end homes in that town and Short Hills the guy sure didn't pick the right house.[/quote]

My guess is when they said assulted the woman it was the nice way to say he did other things to her.

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[quote=Giantone;1013264]Then she and her little girl would be dead.[/quote]

Really? Based on the fact that she didn't have time to call the police?

You don't know much about firearms, do you? It does explain your hoplophobic approach to the topic.

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Hoplophobic.....nice

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[quote=RedskinRat;1013279]Really? Based on the fact that she didn't have time to call the police?

You don't know much about firearms, do you? It does explain your hoplophobic approach to the topic.[/quote]


....and you know nothing about anything , which explains your ignorance on the subject.

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[quote=Giantone;1013264]Then she and her little girl would be dead .If he got in fast enough for her not to call the police then she never would have had a chance with a gun , something doesn't seem right about that video either. With all the high end homes in that town and Short Hills the guy sure didn't pick the right house.[/quote]



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU0EJS3cJIc]Home Invasion in Millburn NJ caught on nanny cam - brutal beating in front of daughter June, 2013 - YouTube[/ame]


This is a better video , the poor women had no time to call police (or get a gun) .Knowing Millburn they will find him ,aren't a whole lot of people in town like him.

[QUOTE=Giantone;1013302]....and you know nothing about anything , which explains your ignorance on the subject.[/QUOTE]

The petulance is strong in this one.

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[url=http://wtvr.com/2013/07/05/child-shot-midlothian-fireworks/]Child shot in head watching fireworks | WTVR.com[/url]

insane

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[quote=Chico23231;1014456][URL="http://wtvr.com/2013/07/05/child-shot-midlothian-fireworks/"]Child shot in head watching fireworks | WTVR.com[/URL]

insane[/quote]

[I]“When medical personnel were treating him, they found [B][U]what they believe to be a bullet wound[/U][/B] in the top of his head,” Badgerow said.[/I]

So, not necessarily a bullet wound, but let's keep the hysteria high, right?

Equally it could have been a slingshot or a stone thrown up from a vehicle tire.

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I just dont understand people getting off from shooting in the air. Its amazingly lame and deadly.

A slingshot? really?

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[quote=RedskinRat;1014459][I]“When medical personnel were treating him, they found [B][U]what they believe to be a bullet wound[/U][/B] in the top of his head,” Badgerow said.[/I]

So, not necessarily a bullet wound, but let's keep the hysteria high, right?

Equally it could have been a slingshot or a stone thrown up from a vehicle tire.[/quote]

Wow, the ignorance and the arrogance is amazing.

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[quote=Giantone;1013264]Then she and her little girl would be dead .If he got in fast enough for her not to call the police then she never would have had a chance with a gun , something doesn't seem right about that video either. With all the high end homes in that town and Short Hills the guy sure didn't pick the right house.[/quote]

The Man has been caught .


[url=http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/07/02/suspect-in-millburn-nj-nanny-cam-home-invasion-due-in-court/]Suspect In Millburn, NJ Nanny Cam Home Invasion Held On $750K Bail « CBS New York[/url]

[B]NEWARK, N.J. (CBSNewYork) –[/B] The man [URL="http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/06/25/police-vow-to-catch-suspect-in-brutal-home-invasion-beating-of-nj-woman/"][COLOR=#0066cc]accused of punching and kicking a mother in her Millburn. N.J.[/COLOR][/URL], home pleaded not guilty Tuesday to multiple charges – including attempted murder – and was ordered held on $750,000 bail.
The brutal attack and robbery were captured on nanny cam.
[URL="http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/06/28/police-identify-suspect-in-brutal-nanny-cam-attack-in-millburn-n-j/"][COLOR=#0066cc]Shawn Custis[/COLOR][/URL], 42, was arraigned Tuesday on charges of attempted murder, robbery, burglary and child endangerment.
He was brought into court handcuffed and wearing a light blue button-down shirt, and he kept his head down as Essex County Superior Court Judge Peter Vazquez questioned him, muttering simple replies.
Custis, who smirked as sheriff’s officers later hauled him back to jail, [URL="http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/06/28/police-identify-suspect-in-brutal-nanny-cam-attack-in-millburn-n-j/"][COLOR=#0066cc]has 12 prior criminal convictions[/COLOR][/URL].

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[quote=Giantone;1014491]Wow, the ignorance and the arrogance is amazing.[/quote]

What evidence are you looking at?

[I]“When medical personnel were treating him, they found what they believe to be a bullet wound in the top of his head,” Badgerow said.[/I]

Did they find a bullet? Then WTF are you (and them) basing their statement on?

Find a bullet, we'll agree it's a bullet wound, mkay?

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[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/boy-dies-after-getting-run-over-by-a-float-at-4th-of-july-parade-2013-7]Boy Dies After Getting Run Over By A Float At 4th Of July Parade - Business Insider[/url]

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[quote=RedskinRat;1014493]What evidence are you looking at?

[I]“When medical personnel were treating him, they found what they believe to be a bullet wound in the top of his head,” Badgerow said.[/I]

Did they find a bullet? Then WTF are you (and them) basing their statement on?

Find a bullet, we'll agree it's a bullet wound, mkay?[/quote]

Oh good lord man!
They are "MEDICAL Personnel" ,they were there and examined the boy, you on the other hand can say they are wrong based on nothing more then you don't like what they said.

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I'm sure this guy was an up standing member of the NRA .


Oregon man was using rifle as a crutch when it fired shot through ceiling, killing girl:

Read more: [url=http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Oregon+using+rifle+crutch+when+fired+shot+through+ceiling/8654811/story.html#ixzz2YxeVMOu1]Oregon man was using rifle as a crutch when it fired shot through ceiling, killing girl: affidavit[/url]





GRANTS PASS, Ore. - An Oregon man told police he was using his assault rifle as a crutch to help him get up from a couch at a friend's apartment when it fired a burst through the ceiling and killed a little girl upstairs, court records show.
A police affidavit said Jon Andrew Meyer Jr. told investigators the gun went off accidentally June 27 at the Grants Pass apartment, the Grants Pass Daily Courier [URL="http://bit.ly/10ROFTZ"][COLOR=#0066cc]reported[/COLOR][/URL].
Defence lawyer Gary Berlant adds Meyer had been assured the gun was not fully automatic.
Meyer is being held on $250,000 bail on charges of manslaughter, assault and unlawful possession of a machine-gun.
Authorities say he was responsible for the reckless burst of rifle fire that killed 5-year-old Alysa Bobbitt of Shady Cove and wounded apartment resident Karen Hancock. The girl and Hancock were upstairs in the same apartment as Meyer.
The little girl and her mother were visiting friends there, but just what Meyer was doing in the apartment with the rifle was unclear. Court records say his fiancee had kicked him out of her place, getting a restraining order, and he listed his current residence as his sister's home.
Meyer listed his occupation as lead bouncer at a Mexican restaurant, where he has worked for two years.
Though his fiancee, Victoria Kohout, told authorities that Meyer was a "big teddy bear," her June 20 petition for the restraining order described him as an "unpredictable drug addict" who had threatened her with a gun, and threatened to burn down her house, slash her tires and break the windows on her car. The judge noted in the file that Meyer had four guns.
Lori Nelson, who lives down the block, said she was startled by the noise of gunfire, and saw Meyer running down the driveway. Then she heard screaming and saw Danielle R. Wilson, Alyssa's mother, come outside holding the child in her arms.
"She looked up at me and said, 'Please, help my baby," Nelson said.


Read more: [url=http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Oregon+using+rifle+crutch+when+fired+shot+through+ceiling/8654811/story.html#ixzz2YxdcqXbm]Oregon man was using rifle as a crutch when it fired shot through ceiling, killing girl: affidavit[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1015373]I'm sure this guy was an up standing member of the NRA . (snip) [/quote]LMAO. Sure the NRA tells people to use guns as crutches.

I'm sure two guys are happy this woman wasn't armed.
[url=http://www.northjersey.com/news/Woman_mugged_in_Patersons_1st_Ward.html]Woman mugged in Paterson's 1st Ward - NorthJersey.com[/url]

And this guy is thankful he was armed.
[url=http://www.abc57.com/home/top-stories/Resident-kills-home-invasion-suspect-214618021.html]Resident shoots, kills armed intruder | ABC57 | South Bend IN News, Weather and Sports | Top Stories[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1015373]I'm sure this guy was an up standing member of the NRA .


Oregon man was using rifle as a crutch when it fired shot through ceiling, killing girl:

Read more: [url=http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Oregon+using+rifle+crutch+when+fired+shot+through+ceiling/8654811/story.html#ixzz2YxeVMOu1]Oregon man was using rifle as a crutch when it fired shot through ceiling, killing girl: affidavit[/url]





GRANTS PASS, Ore. - An Oregon man told police he was using his assault rifle as a crutch to help him get up from a couch at a friend's apartment when it fired a burst through the ceiling and killed a little girl upstairs, court records show.
A police affidavit said Jon Andrew Meyer Jr. told investigators the gun went off accidentally June 27 at the Grants Pass apartment, the Grants Pass Daily Courier [URL="http://bit.ly/10ROFTZ"][COLOR=#0066cc]reported[/COLOR][/URL].
Defence lawyer Gary Berlant adds Meyer had been assured the gun was not fully automatic.
Meyer is being held on $250,000 bail on charges of manslaughter, assault and unlawful possession of a machine-gun.
Authorities say he was responsible for the reckless burst of rifle fire that killed 5-year-old Alysa Bobbitt of Shady Cove and wounded apartment resident Karen Hancock. The girl and Hancock were upstairs in the same apartment as Meyer.
The little girl and her mother were visiting friends there, but just what Meyer was doing in the apartment with the rifle was unclear. Court records say his fiancee had kicked him out of her place, getting a restraining order, and he listed his current residence as his sister's home.
Meyer listed his occupation as lead bouncer at a Mexican restaurant, where he has worked for two years.
Though his fiancee, Victoria Kohout, told authorities that Meyer was a "big teddy bear," her June 20 petition for the restraining order described him as an "unpredictable drug addict" who had threatened her with a gun, and threatened to burn down her house, slash her tires and break the windows on her car. The judge noted in the file that Meyer had four guns.
Lori Nelson, who lives down the block, said she was startled by the noise of gunfire, and saw Meyer running down the driveway. Then she heard screaming and saw Danielle R. Wilson, Alyssa's mother, come outside holding the child in her arms.
"She looked up at me and said, 'Please, help my baby," Nelson said.


Read more: [url=http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Oregon+using+rifle+crutch+when+fired+shot+through+ceiling/8654811/story.html#ixzz2YxdcqXbm]Oregon man was using rifle as a crutch when it fired shot through ceiling, killing girl: affidavit[/url][/quote]


Dumbasses like this deserve a lot of jail time and should never ever be allowed to own a gun again.

[QUOTE=RedskinRat;1014493]What evidence are you looking at?

[I]“When medical personnel were treating him, they found what they believe to be a bullet wound in the top of his head,” Badgerow said.[/I]

Did they find a bullet? Then WTF are you (and them) basing their statement on?

Find a bullet, we'll agree it's a bullet wound, mkay?[/QUOTE]

They were probably basing their statement off experience and common sense. But since you asked hur ya go mmkay

[url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/10/death-7-year-old-boy-shot-on-july-fourth-in-virginia-puts-focus-on-celebratory/[/url]

As a responsible gun owner there is nothing more idiotic anyone can do with a gun than shoot it off aimlessly into the air. Wonder if there's any chance they ever find the shooter.

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Another example of the membership of the NRA......

[url=http://www.wbbjtv.com/news/local/Two-Dead-After-Weapon-Discharge-Causes-Explosion-Fire-220278331.html]Two Dead After Weapon Discharge Causes Explosion Fire | WBBJTV West Tennessee's News Channel | Local News[/url]


Weapon Discharge Causes Explosion Fire
[B]By Natalie Potts
By [email]npotts@wbbjtv.com[/email]
[/B]

Story Created: Aug 19, 2013 at 6:54 PM CDT
Story Updated: Aug 19, 2013 at 9:54 PM CDT

HENDERSON COUNTY, Tenn.- The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation and Henderson County Sheriff's Department are investigating the deaths of a father and son who were killed in a house fire that reportedly started after the accidental discharge of an AR-15 rifle, Sunday.

"Any loss of life is tragic, when a child looses their life it hit the community hard," said Sheriff Brian Duke of the Henderson County Sheriff's Department. " There was maybe an accidental discharge of the weapon from there we haven't really determined how the fire started but that is what State Bomb and Arson officials are looking into."

Witnesses told investigators that the father, Terry York, 48, was inside the back room of his home showing a friend the AR-15 rifle when it accidentally fired. Family members told WBBJ 7 Eyewitness News that the gunfire immediately ignited a small fire inside of the home.

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If this doesn't make you sick.....


[url=http://gawker.com/dad-sticks-up-for-guns-on-facebook-hours-after-toddler-1171644678]Dad Sticks Up for Guns on Facebook Hours After Toddler Shoots Himself[/url]


Just hours after Brian Holbrook's 3-year-old son [URL="http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/4-year-old-dundee-boy-dies-after-shooting-himself-in-the-head"][COLOR=#0066cc]fatally shot himself with a gun[/COLOR][/URL] that was improperly stored inside a bedroom closet, the Michigan dad took to his Facebook page to affirm his continued support for guns.
Police in Dundee say the toddler was wandering around his own home when he stumbled upon the gun inside a case on the floor of an unlocked bedroom closet.
The weapon, which belongs to Joshua Michael Greenhill, a family friend who had been living at Holbrook's two-story residence, was reportedly loaded, and had a bullet in the chamber.
Three other children, including Holbrook's two other children and Greenhill's son, were inside the home when Damon accidentally shot himself in the head.


This is the fault of the parents neglect.

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......and they just don't stop coming.


[URL]http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20130819/APC01/308190233/Complaint-Accused-Walmart-shooter-jealous-victim?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1[/URL]



[B]OSHKOSH[/B] — The woman accused of shooting her Walmart coworker was upset the victim was moved to an easier job in the liquor department, court documents reveal.
The possible motive and other details of the shooting Wednesday inside the Neenah store were laid out in a criminal complaint filed Monday in Winnebago County Court against Justine Boyd. The 46-year-old Greenville woman, who is charged with attempted first-degree intentional homicide, appeared in court Monday for a bond hearing that was postponed until today so Boyd could apply for a court-appointed attorney.

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[quote=Giantone;1019762]If this doesn't make you sick.....


[url=http://gawker.com/dad-sticks-up-for-guns-on-facebook-hours-after-toddler-1171644678]Dad Sticks Up for Guns on Facebook Hours After Toddler Shoots Himself[/url]

This is the fault of the parents neglect.[/quote]

Agree 100%. People like this should be banned from owning guns ever again. I'm all for the 2nd amendment; however, when you've shown that you don't understand gun safety or demonstrate sensible care in owning one, you should lose that right.

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Dad should be arrested and charged with something. its just garbage we just chalk it up as an accident and keep it moving.

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[quote=Giantone;1019761]Another example of the membership of the NRA......

[URL="http://www.wbbjtv.com/news/local/Two-Dead-After-Weapon-Discharge-Causes-Explosion-Fire-220278331.html"]Two Dead After Weapon Discharge Causes Explosion Fire | WBBJTV West Tennessee's News Channel | Local News[/URL]


Weapon Discharge Causes Explosion Fire
[B]By Natalie Potts [/B]
[B]By [EMAIL="npotts@wbbjtv.com"]npotts@wbbjtv.com[/EMAIL][/B]


Story Created: Aug 19, 2013 at 6:54 PM CDT
Story Updated: Aug 19, 2013 at 9:54 PM CDT

HENDERSON COUNTY, Tenn.- The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation and Henderson County Sheriff's Department are investigating the deaths of a father and son who were killed in a house fire that reportedly started after the accidental discharge of an AR-15 rifle, Sunday.

"Any loss of life is tragic, when a child looses their life it hit the community hard," said Sheriff Brian Duke of the Henderson County Sheriff's Department. " There was maybe an accidental discharge of the weapon from there we haven't really determined how the fire started but that is what State Bomb and Arson officials are looking into."

Witnesses told investigators that the father, Terry York, 48, was inside the back room of his home showing a friend the AR-15 rifle when it accidentally fired. Family members told WBBJ 7 Eyewitness News that the gunfire immediately ignited a small fire inside of the home.[/quote]

Nothing in that story said he was a member of the NRA.

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Meanwhile, New York gun control takes another life.

[URL="http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9214376"]Woman found stabbed to death in Bronx apartment

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9214376[/URL]

[U] BELMONT (WABC) -- Police are searching for the killer who fatally stabbed a woman inside an apartment in her Bronx building.

The victim, about 55 years old, was found dead in another apartment on the floor where she lived on East 187th Street in the Belmont section.

Her identity has not yet been released. Investigators say she had been stabbed several times.

"I feel bad because she was a real good person. I mean she didn't bother anybody. I mean I rarely saw but when I did, she was OK," said a neighbor, Roseann Delvalle, who added that the woman lived alone.

Police found the victim's body in a pool of blood at about 5:45 Wednesday morning. [/U]

Thanks to gun control, only criminals have guns for "shootings" in that neighborhood. Let's make sure fights between criminals and victims remain "fair" with just fisticuffs and knives.

This message brought to you by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1019905]Meanwhile, New York gun control takes another life.

[URL="http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9214376"]Woman found stabbed to death in Bronx apartment

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9214376[/URL]

[U]BELMONT (WABC) -- Police are searching for the killer who fatally stabbed a woman inside an apartment in her Bronx building.[/U]



Thanks to gun control, only criminals have guns for "shootings" in that neighborhood..[/quote]

...... she was stabbed ,the person had a knife not a gun .Do you know she didn't own a gun , and how do you know this ?

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[quote=Giantone;1019911]...... she was stabbed ,the person had a knife not a gun .Do you know she didn't own a gun , and how do you know this ?[/quote]No giantone, I was pointing out that obviously she wasn't able to use a gun to defend herself.

At a time we bemoan that getting a picture ID is too large a hurdle for people to vote, it's not wrong to point out the hurdles required to get a gun for self defense contribute to cases where a victim dies because they lack the means to defend themselves.

To put it another way: How did helping render this woman defenseless, help protect you against violent crime?

Gun control advocates should take responsibility for disarming law-abiding people. Their policies failed this woman.

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[url=http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2013/09/dallas-man-arrested-in-connection-with-shooting-of-7-year-old-boy-tuesday-night-at-a-lake-highlands-apartment-complex.html/]Dallas man arrested after 8-year-old boy shot Tuesday night at a Lake Highlands apartment complex | Crime Blog[/url]



NRA gun control polices at work???Gotta Love Texas


[B]Staff Writer Lucy Sosa reports:[/B] A Dallas man has been arrested in connection with the shooting of an [URL="http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/headlines/20130903-boy-8-shot-in-jaw-outside-lake-highlands-apartments.ece?action=reregister"][COLOR=#0066cc]8-year-old boy in the jaw Tuesday evening at a Lake Highlands apartment complex.[/COLOR][/URL]
Brian Cloninger, 46, was charged with injury to a child. He remains in the Dallas County jail on a $2.2 million bond.
The boy, identified as Donald Maiden, Jr., was shot in the parking lot of La Bella Palms apartments in the 9400 block of Royal Lane near Abrams Road. Witnesses told police Cloninger had been seen waving his gun at people before the shooting, according to an arrest warrant affidavit.
A resident at the apartment complex went outside after hearing the gunshot. The boy bleeding was profusely, and Cloninger was standing beside his silver pickup truck. The man asked whether Cloninger shot the boy, according to police reports.
“Yes I shot that kid,” Cloninger told the witness, according to the arrest warrant.
Maiden remains in critical but stable condition after undergoing surgery at Children’s Medical Center Dallas, according to Dallas police.
Family friend and neighbor Dundra Moffit said Maiden is “doing fine.”

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[quote=Giantone;1022773][URL="http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2013/09/dallas-man-arrested-in-connection-with-shooting-of-7-year-old-boy-tuesday-night-at-a-lake-highlands-apartment-complex.html/"]Dallas man arrested after 8-year-old boy shot Tuesday night at a Lake Highlands apartment complex | Crime Blog[/URL]



NRA gun control polices at work???Gotta Love Texas
[/quote]

What part of that article states that the shooter is a member of the NRA is in any way adhering to NRA policies?

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[url=http://www.nranews.com/ginny/video/colorado-gun-law-recall-your-voice-your-vote-our-freedoms--2]NRA News | Colorado Gun Law Recall: Your Voice, Your Vote, Our Freedoms[/url]

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[quote=RedskinRat;1022797]What part of that article states that the shooter is a member of the NRA is in any way adhering to NRA policies?[/quote]


Where did I say he was a member of the NRA ? The NRA does believe that you should be allowed to carry a loaded firearm on you at all times , correct ?Texas believes in it also ,and if you read the article you will see the man was standing out front and just waving the gun around .Thank God that his second amendment rights were protected though .

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[quote=Giantone;1022833]Where did I say he was a member of the NRA ? The NRA does believe that you should be allowed to carry a loaded firearm on you at all times , correct ?Texas believes in it also ,and if you read the article you will see the man was standing out front and just waving the gun around .Thank God that his second amendment rights were protected though .[/quote]Somebody doesn't know that brandishing is illegal. And stunts like that, for example Joe Biden's shotgun advice, are discouraged by gun safety classes, including those run by the NRA.

Let alone the shooting. Sure, let's support gun control so ONLY criminals and nuts have them. :doh:

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[quote=Giantone;1022833]Where did I say he was a member of the NRA ? The NRA does believe that you should be allowed to carry a loaded firearm on you at all times , correct ?Texas believes in it also ,and if you read the article you will see the man was standing out front and just waving the gun around .Thank God that his second amendment rights were protected though .[/quote]

The NRA believes that law abidiing citizens should be allowed to carry a firearm and in gun safty.

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[quote=firstdown;1023211]The NRA believes that law abidiing citizens should be allowed to carry a firearm and in gun safety.[/quote]



Until the foresaid "law abiding citizens" shoot or kill someone ,then the NRA calls them nuts or mentally defective .

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[quote=Giantone;1023377]Until the foresaid "law abiding citizens" shoot or kill someone ,then the NRA calls them nuts or mentally defective .[/quote]

Most people that kill are nuts. Just like anyone using anything as a weapon to kill.

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[quote=firstdown;1024389]Most people that kill are nuts. Just like anyone using anything as a weapon to kill.[/quote]


No the NRA doesn't see it that way ,your not a not till you kill .Maybe some better or even some more background checks would help ,they sure couldn't hurt .

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[quote=Giantone;1024570]No the NRA doesn't see it that way ,your not a not till you kill .Maybe some better or even some more background checks would help ,they sure couldn't hurt .[/quote]Pretty sure most gun owners would call Joe Biden nuts. So there you go.

Another logic fail on your part, giantone. Of course, everybody sane would call that shooters nuts. He's no longer "law abiding" as you put it, now is he?

So what are you trying to say, in response to calling only the shooter nuts, that all gun owners should be considered nuts until proven otherwise? :doh:

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[quote=Giantone;1024570]No the NRA doesn't see it that way ,your not a not till you kill .Maybe some better or even some more background checks would help ,they sure couldn't hurt .[/quote]

I personally don't have a problem with having a back ground checks for all gun purchases but I also don't think having them will stop a person who wants a gun from finding one illegally. The problem as I see it if we started doing back ground checks on all purchases and as I say it does not work then they will want other limitations put into place. So on and so on.