Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=Paintrain;1019100]Well done article about the RG3 media obsession.. [url=http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/71562/bracing-for-the-rg3-backlash]Bracing for the RG3 Backlash - The Triangle Blog - Grantland[/url][/quote]

Really good article.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1019115]Really good article.[/quote]

Agreed. Particularly this:

[I]It's {[/I]the media[I]} all a big, stupid cycle. But you know that. Seeing RG3 coopted into it is what's kind of jarring. The player who was pretty much impossible to root against — literally one of the only things all football fans could agree on — is, I guess, going to be someone we can all argue about for the next few years. Somewhere along the line he's become this polarizing force, where trolls now realize that any imaginary controversy involving RG3 will get people angry and keep people engaged on all sides.[/I]

And:

[I]It's one thing when guys like Tim Tebow or 40-year-old Brett Favre get co-opted into the stupidity cycle; they almost work better as sideshows. But RG3 is so much better than all that. He was probably the most exciting player in football last year. If the RedZone Channel had an MVP award, he would've had it sewn up by Week 8. He's stupidly impressive off the field, and on the field, he took a franchise that had been dead and hopeless for the better part of 20 years and turned things around in the span of three months. Superstars like that are the ones who end up transcending games, and teams, and even seasons. Or, to put it differently: Guys like RG3 are the athletes that we remember forever.[/I]
[I]Now it's year two. Everything will get more complicated, and probably a little unbearable. It's inevitable. So as far as RG3's concerned, just try to enjoy what happens on the field and tune out the rest. And remember the most important lesson for any fan in 2013: [U][B]Don't let sports media ruin sports for you.[/B][/U][/I]


Clearly SS has a lot to answer for.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

Griffin needs to be a little more calculated when it comes to the media. Maybe a little less honest and forthcoming.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=RedskinRat;1019121]Agreed. Particularly this:

[I]It's {[/I]the media[I]} all a big, stupid cycle. But you know that. Seeing RG3 coopted into it is what's kind of jarring. The player who was pretty much impossible to root against — literally one of the only things all football fans could agree on — is, I guess, going to be someone we can all argue about for the next few years. Somewhere along the line he's become this polarizing force, where trolls now realize that any imaginary controversy involving RG3 will get people angry and keep people engaged on all sides.[/I]

And:

[I]It's one thing when guys like Tim Tebow or 40-year-old Brett Favre get co-opted into the stupidity cycle; they almost work better as sideshows. But RG3 is so much better than all that. He was probably the most exciting player in football last year. If the RedZone Channel had an MVP award, he would've had it sewn up by Week 8. He's stupidly impressive off the field, and on the field, he took a franchise that had been dead and hopeless for the better part of 20 years and turned things around in the span of three months. Superstars like that are the ones who end up transcending games, and teams, and even seasons. Or, to put it differently: Guys like RG3 are the athletes that we remember forever.[/I]
[I]Now it's year two. Everything will get more complicated, and probably a little unbearable. It's inevitable. So as far as RG3's concerned, just try to enjoy what happens on the field and tune out the rest. And remember the most important lesson for any fan in 2013: [U][B]Don't let sports media ruin sports for you.[/B][/U][/I]


Clearly SS has a lot to answer for.[/quote]

I know the author personally. I know his aspirations. I know his thoughts on other subjects and his approach to them. I think it was a good article, but the irony of what he wrote with who he is and aspires to be is laughable

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=SmootSmack;1019123]I know the author personally. I know his aspirations. I know his thoughts on other subjects and his approach to them. I think it was a good article, but the irony of what he wrote with who he is and aspires to be is laughable[/quote]

See, I just enjoyed the article. Now you go and harsh the mellow 'cause the writer's a hypocrite.

<sigh> you media types are all the same ...

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=SmootSmack;1019123]I know the author personally. I know his aspirations. [U][B]I know his thoughts[/B][/U] on other subjects and his approach to them. I think it was a good article, but the irony of what he wrote with who he is and aspires to be is laughable[/quote]

SS reads minds! Put your tin foil hats on!

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=RedskinRat;1019125]SS reads minds! Put your tin foil hats on![/quote]

I thought you were going to say that

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1019124]See, I just enjoyed the article. Now you go and harsh the mellow 'cause the writer's a hypocrite.

<sigh> you media types are all the same ...[/quote]

LOL. Sorry. I should have kept my mouth shut. Like I said it is a good article, in and of itself

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=SmootSmack;1019127]LOL. Sorry. I should have kept my mouth shut. Like I said it is a good article, in and of itself[/quote]

it's fine. Just ribbing you. Article has good points, doesn't matter much if the author is a douche.

If it did, I would have you on my blocked list. <rim shot>

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1019129]it's fine. Just ribbing you. Article has good points, doesn't matter much if the author is a douche.

If it did, I would have you on my blocked list. <rim shot>[/quote]

JR, you'd have sued him. C'mon now.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

If being a douche was actionable, I'd be a very rich man.

Hell, I could put my kids through college on you alone.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1019141]If being a douche was actionable, I'd be a very rich man.

[B]Hell, I could put my kids through college on you alone.[/B][/quote]

lmao. Shots fired!

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1019141]If being a douche was actionable, I'd be a very rich man.

Hell, I could put my kids through college on you alone.[/quote]

Nice!

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

it's funny imo

[YT]X0WbWDqKbFQ[/YT]

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1019152]it's funny imo[/quote]

Funny stuff. NFL AM is the only show I can bear to watch anymore. You still get all the hype and BS stories, but at least they take it less seriously.

Florio is deep in the assumption room again...

[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/16/bruce-allen-says-theres-no-conflict-between-rg3-and-shanahan/[/url]

Garbage like this really gives the media a bad name.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

Just got home from todays TC, traffic was crazy. Things I saw and felt. IMO we are deep at WR, Hank and Lewis stood out to me. We will carry 4 TE's all of them were catching everything Paulsen is the secret weapon he has good hands, NP's hands have gotten much better, FD looks like a beast & Reed looks like he belongs out there. Thompson & Jamison are small Alf looks like a giant next to those guys. There is confidence in this team and I like it. They rotated the WR's a lot but to me it looks like they want Hank to be the #2 with PG. Had a great time took my nephew, meet some really nice people bought a TON of stuff.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[QUOTE=NYCskinfan82;1019156]Just got home from todays TC, traffic was crazy. Things I saw and felt. IMO we are deep at WR, Hank and Lewis stood out to me. We will carry 4 TE's all of them were catching everything Paulsen is the secret weapon he has good hands, NP's hands have gotten much better, FD looks like a beast & Reed looks like he belongs out there. Thompson & Jamison are small Alf looks like a giant next to those guys. There is confidence in this team and I like it. The rotated the WR's a lot but to me it looks like they want Hank to be the #2 with PG. Had a great time took my nephew, meet some really nice people bought a TON of stuff.[/QUOTE

U came from NYC? Gotta say Richmond stepped it up for camp. No issues and the community came together for a new debut. Think the skins found a nice home for years to come.

Matty that florio article is the most f@cking rediculous I've read all offseason. What a turd

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=NYCskinfan82;1019156]Just got home from todays TC, traffic was crazy. Things I saw and felt. IMO we are deep at WR, Hank and Lewis stood out to me. We will carry 4 TE's all of them were catching everything Paulsen is the secret weapon he has good hands, NP's hands have gotten much better, FD looks like a beast & Reed looks like he belongs out there. Thompson & Jamison are small Alf looks like a giant next to those guys. There is confidence in this team and I like it. The rotated the WR's a lot but to me it looks like they want Hank to be the #2 with PG. Had a great time took my nephew, meet some really nice people bought a TON of stuff.[/quote]

Thank you for that helpful report.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

don't quote PFT, it's just trash. it's always been trash.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=Mattyk;1019154]Florio is deep in the assumption room again...

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/16/bruce-allen-says-theres-no-conflict-between-rg3-and-shanahan/]Bruce Allen says there’s no conflict between RG3 and Shanahan | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Garbage like this really gives the media a bad name.[/quote]

The media just won't let go of this. Enough already.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

Howard Eskin ‏@howardeskin Sources also tell me even w recommendation by Dr James Andrews that griffin not play first 4 games, belief is shanahan will play him wk 1

Howard Eskin ‏@howardeskin Sources tell me RG3's dr, James Andrews, has recommended to #redskins that Griffin not play until after bye wk. Wash bye is week 5.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=12thMan;1019190]Howard Eskin ‏@howardeskin Sources also tell me even w recommendation by Dr James Andrews that griffin not play first 4 games, belief is shanahan will play him wk 1

Howard Eskin ‏@howardeskin Sources tell me RG3's dr, James Andrews, has recommended to #redskins that Griffin not play until after bye wk. Wash bye is week 5.[/quote]

I think he should start Week 1, and I believe he will. But if Shanahan chose to sit him, I wouldn't mind that at all. The first four games are Philadelphia, Green Bay, Oakland, and Detroit; all games we could win even with Cousins starting.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

If You have questions about TC players ask away and I will give you my opinion.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

Eskin is wrong, no such recommendation

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

Oh great, just wait til all the mouth breathers in the media get a hold of that nugget by Eskin :doh:

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

Better off listening to these guys...

John Keim ‏@john_keim 17m
Say what you want about Shanahan, but I'd be surprised if he went that much against a Dr's recommendation in this case, esp w/RG3.

Mike Jones ‏@MikeJonesWaPo 15m
Shanahan has been ultra cautious, even holding RGIII back slower than Andrews recommended. He wouldn't ignore doc on return date.

John Keim ‏@john_keim 14m
at each step since surgery, Shanahan has been the more conservative of this trio.

John Keim ‏@john_keim 19m
Let me be latest to add a "Not true" from a #Redskins official re: report stating Dr. Andrews recommended RG3 sit out until bye

Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen 24m
Source tells me that the report that James Andrews told the #Redskins to sit Robert Griffin until after the bye week is erroneous.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

I can't stand Eskin... wow

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

I'm glad the DC reporters shut down Eskin's lying ass quickly.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

A week 5 return is troubling to hear. I really hope Kirk continues to play solid in games 2 and 3.
All the more reason to lean toward caution and sensibility- let Kirk carry the offseason/preseason momentum into week 1. Rob's determination to get healthy seems to have gotten his body healthy enough to play in 4 weeks by week 2.
I'd say that's as fair a compromise for all involved.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

Eskins just doing that to get more followers.

This Griffin shit apparently will never and. Smh

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

I don't like Mike Wise, but he drilled Florio good a few years ago on the radio. He reminds of a terrible version of Pete Vecsey...

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=NYCskinfan82;1019192]If You have questions about TC players ask away and I will give you my opinion.[/quote]

Who's looked the best returning kick-offs? Also, how's Helu doing?

Edit: I forgot to ask about Marvin Burdette. Has he shown anything worth mentioning?

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

well, this rgiii whining is still better than the pat white is our next future HoF QB crap we would have had if RG3 wasn't here.

so i can live with it, the alternative could be a lot worse.

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=Mattyk;1019196]Better off listening to these guys...

John Keim ‏@john_keim 17m
Say what you want about Shanahan, but I'd be surprised if he went that much against a Dr's recommendation in this case, esp w/RG3.

Mike Jones ‏@MikeJonesWaPo 15m
Shanahan has been ultra cautious, even holding RGIII back slower than Andrews recommended. He wouldn't ignore doc on return date.

John Keim ‏@john_keim 14m
at each step since surgery, Shanahan has been the more conservative of this trio.

John Keim ‏@john_keim 19m
Let me be latest to add a "Not true" from a #Redskins official re: report stating Dr. Andrews recommended RG3 sit out until bye

Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen 24m
Source tells me that the report that James Andrews told the #Redskins to sit Robert Griffin until after the bye week is erroneous.[/quote]

Thanks for that in depth twitter search Matty. Nice research. Who is this Erslin guy anyway?

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

Normally not the type who takes pleasure in arguing back at people on twitter but the Eskin report was too easy. He is the Donovan McNabb of reporting, using RGIIIs fame to make himself relevant

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=RedskinRat;1019125]SS reads minds! Put your tin foil hats on![/quote]

Priceless hehhehe!

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

[quote=SirLK26;1019204]Who's looked the best returning kick-offs? Also, how's Helu doing?

Edit: I forgot to ask about Marvin Burdette. Has he shown anything worth mentioning?[/quote]


I saw Moss, Thompson, Dawson, Crawford to name a few working on formations no contact so I couldn't really say.

Burdette can't really say remember seeing his jersey but dont remember a bad or good play.

Forgot to type this London Fletcher looks good got 2 INT over the middle, on one of them he pulled from the WR's hands (I believe Dawson).

Re: Redskins Training Camp Thread 3.0
 

I hope kickoffs is either Dawson or Thompson. I really dont like Paul back there at all.