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On the one hand, D Hall's TD was great. On the other it gave the defense no time to rest. That being said, I was disappointed to see how tired the defense looked to start the game. Tired and sloppy. First game of the season, first quarter even, and you look like you're playing in OT of week 16.

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[quote=warriorzpath;1024342]Hate to do this but - if there's a scapegoat, it's Alfred Morris.[/quote]

He was unusually sloppy last night. Lack of a running game early on really hurt. No way RG3 should need to throw the ball 49 times

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I was a little surprised they did not roll Robert out more in some play action looks rather than just a drop back style. We are not really set up for that and it showed......
Like to know why.......I know THEY know
--Fox Mulder

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[quote=warriorzpath;1024342]Hate to do this but - if there's a scapegoat, it's Alfred Morris.[/quote]

Plenty of scapegoats....the fumble on Morris was bad, the pitch was on RG3, the oline got abused, the safeties were pathetic, RG3 played poorly, D-line and LB's were out of position and Forbath missed a kick....

It's one game but next week sure looks like a must win and Green Bay is thinking the same thing.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1024369]He was unusually sloppy last night. Lack of a running game early on really hurt. No way RG3 should need to throw the ball 49 times[/quote]

I know everyone is wondering why Morris wasn't himself. All you have to ask is- what was different at this time last year? When the New Orleans game came around, Griffin and Morris were sharp and ready to go. Maybe the lack of preseason snaps, maybe distractions and attention to media? Maybe not THE reason, but it all had to play a part. They have to get focused again and remember what got them to the NFC East division champion last season.

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[quote=Hog1;1024370]I was a little surprised they did not roll Robert out more in some play action looks rather than just a drop back style. We are not really set up for that and it showed......
Like to know why.......I know THEY know
--Fox Mulder[/quote]

I think it is hard to do roll outs when you have no threat of a running game. DEs will go upfield and blow up the play every time.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1024369]He was unusually sloppy last night. Lack of a running game early on really hurt. No way RG3 should need to throw the ball 49 times[/quote]


That was RG3s "worst game" as a starter people r saying but he ended up with a top 10 QB performance this week. (based on numbers) I think they'll be ok, give it a couple weeks

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[quote=skinsfan69;1024372]Plenty of scapegoats....the fumble on Morris was bad, the pitch was on RG3, the oline got abused, the safeties were pathetic, RG3 played poorly, D-line and LB's were out of position and Forbath missed a kick....

It's one game but next week sure looks like a must win and Green Bay is thinking the same thing.[/quote]

And right now I would trust Green Bay to respond with a great effort more than I would trust the skins to win the game.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1024366]We beat GB at home a few years back when LL Picked off AR late[/quote]

Oh you are right and it went to OT. That was the 2010 game. Fawk that screws up my analyst we are DOOMED!

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[quote=SmootSmack;1024367]On the one hand, D Hall's TD was great. On the other it gave the defense no time to rest. That being said, I was disappointed to see how tired the defense looked to start the game. Tired and sloppy. First game of the season, first quarter even, and you look like you're playing in OT of week 16.[/quote]

I don't think the D was slow it was more that they did not know what was coming. As they figured out what the Eagles were doing the better they looked.

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^lmao I hope not. Did anyone notice the passes Griff was making in the 4th? He looked on point and his last TD pass was beautiful.

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I was unable to actually see most of the game, but did get to listen to it on the radio. This is my take and perception:

1. OL was bad. could not create holes or running lanes.
2. Morris was rusty. team stuck with him for too long.
3. WR needed plays to help out RG3. curl and slant routes.
4. Defense took too long to adjust to opponent. 4th series they finally used stunts.
5. Script.

Ok, so I'll break it down now.
#1. If I'm the opponent and I know you are going to play your QB who was injured, then I'm thinking...there is a 80-90% chance you are not going to have him running the ball in the first game of the season. So although you might line up in the option...I doubt your going to have him run the ball. So that limits to him handing the ball off to a RB/FB or passing. So I'd plan on stacking the DL and rushing at you every play. (Same thing they used to do to Grossman which is why we picked up McNabb and finally RG3). I'd challenge you to get make the throws and hopefully not give you time enough to get someone open. EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. There were no run lanes cause they were blocked by the rushing DL.

#2. Morris had a bad game. It happens. I might have stuck Helu in for a couple of plays a lot sooner just to see if his "change of pace" would make the defense back off.

#3. Clearly with the defense rushing and forcing RG3 to pass or trying to he didn't have much time. The coaches should have started using 5 yrd curls, 5 yrd slants, and screen plays to slow the defense down and back them up.

#4. I did get to see the first 30 min. on TV. Personally with any film to study and not knowing what they were going to bring our D was going to have a difficult time. But I didn't think they were as bad as I've heard some people say they were. Even the radio announcers mentioned that around the 4th series our D finally started getting pressure cause of the stunts they were using. I was hoping and expecting our D to be on the sideline ready to change people out after every two plays in order to keep people fresh. But this requires the players to be standing on the sideline paying attention and ready to run on the field as soon as the whistle is blown and ready to run off the field as soon as the whistle is blown. There is no time to go sit on the bench.

#5. Almost every team scripts their first 20-30 plays. That usually takes them to halftime. I understand it didn't help that we had 3 turn overs in 7 plays, 1 INT., 1 fumble, and 1 fumble to a safety. However, if you see what the defense if doing and what they are not giving you ... you have to make adjustments. The Redskins didn't make adjustments until halftime in the 3rd quarter.

Having said all this I don't think our season is doomed or busted. Now we have some film on the Eagles. We know what they are planning to do and can adjust for it. Plus we don't see them again until week 11 which gives us more film to see and game plan for as well as see what other teams doing against them.

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I don't like loosing but I think this loss will do more good for RGIII then it will hurt us.

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Bottom line is that their guys turned up ready to bust a gut in their attempt to win the game. Our guys just turned up expecting to win with no fire in their bellies. Hopefully that won't happen again.

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[quote=warriorzpath;1024373]I know everyone is wondering why Morris wasn't himself. All you have to ask is- what was different at this time last year? When the New Orleans game came around, Griffin and Morris were sharp and ready to go. Maybe the lack of preseason snaps, maybe distractions and attention to media? Maybe not THE reason, but it all had to play a part. They have to get focused again and remember what got them to the NFC East division champion last season.[/quote]

Morris by all accounts had a great offseason and training camp. I think he just had an off night and wasn't getting great blocking either. 2 fumbles in one game isn't him at all. He'll get back on track no doubt.

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[quote=donofriose;1024365]They did run for 250+ yards, have almost 450 yards of total offense and score 33 points. Offense obviously played poorly but that doesn't excuse the defense looking bad, especially with tackling and gap discipline. Honestly, the entire teamplayed poorly the first half.[/quote]

They had 26 total first downs, we had 25.
They had 4 drives start in our territory. We had one start in their's.
Out of 13 drives 10 of ours started between our endzone and the 20 yd line.
Out of 14 drives 5 of theirs started between their EZ and the 20yd line.

Our 1st 3 drives ended fumble, interception, safety. Theirs ended Fumble, FG, TD

McCoy is an elite elusive back. He got 184 yds. The one thing that Reid never did was use McCoy like a workhorse. If Kelly does, than that's a point in his favor.

I just think putting this loss on the defense, when they got a TD recovery, and late set us up deep in their territory is mis-focused.

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where was Orakpo last night? He just hasn't lived up to the hype lately, he said he wanted to win the DPOY and he didn't do anything last night

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1024388]They had 26 total first downs, we had 25.
They had 4 drives start in our territory. We had one start in their's.
Out of 13 drives 10 of ours started between our endzone and the 20 yd line.
Out of 14 drives 5 of theirs started between their EZ and the 20yd line.

Our 1st 3 drives ended fumble, interception, safety. Theirs ended Fumble, FG, TD

McCoy is an elite elusive back. He got 184 yds. The one thing that Reid never did was use McCoy like a workhorse. If Kelly does, than that's a point in his favor.

I just think putting this loss on the defense, when they got a TD recovery, and late set us up deep in their territory is mis-focused.[/quote]

Totally agree with you. Football is a lot about field position. You can't give the opponent the ball within your 30 or 40 yrd line. We had 3 turn overs in 7 plays that alone does not give the defense time to rest then we had 2 or 3 horrible punts giving the Eagles the ball on our side of the field.

Someone needs to talk with the punt returner and get them all on the same page. You DON'T field a kick inside your 10 yrd line and they did all night long. We had 4 or 5 times we started inside our 10 yrd line. One of which was due to a penalty.

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[quote=davy;1024385]Bottom line is that their guys turned up ready to bust a gut in their attempt to win the game. Our guys just turned up expecting to win with no fire in their bellies. Hopefully that won't happen again.[/quote]

You are absolutely correct. We got outcoached before the opening kickoff even happened. We were not ready to play and we looked like the team with the new coach because of it.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1024390]where was Orakpo last night? He just hasn't lived up to the hype lately, he said he wanted to win the DPOY and he didn't do anything last night[/quote]

Trying to be honest. Orakpo was there but it looked like he was being held most of the first half and the refs were not calling it. The refs finally started calling it late second quarter and second half.

I'll give the Eagles credit. This is exactly what I was afraid would happen. while all my friends were talking Super Bowl I stayed reserved.

I don't know what I would have done differently not knowing what the Eagles were going to do. I might have started Cousins and tried to see how he did against the Eagles defense, BUT.... this game is also all about money. People came to the game to see RG3. The reason our first game was Mon. night was so all the league could see RG3. People and media would have been upset if the team put Cousin in to start.

but keep in mind his timing might have been better with Morris and the WR's. If it looked like a cluster then I would have put RG3 in just to try and make something happen. But that's why I'm not a HC. ;)

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To simplify........
We got manhandled and...OUT executed in virtually every phase of the game (and coaching).
Thankfully, we have 15 more opportunities

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[quote=GTripp0012;1024245]0-1 isn't anything to get worked up about, as the first week tends to be the least predictive. Anyone remember how good the 2011 Redskins played in the opener?

0-2 is a different story. If this is a playoff team, we'll take a lot of frustration from this first half out on Green Bay. Problem is, they're looking to do the same thing to us. There's no such thing as a must win in the first two weeks, but even good teams that begin 0-2 usually don't recover to make the playoffs.[/quote]

This. I don't think I'd be nearly as upset/concerned about this... if we didn't have to go to Green Bay next week. This is the territory that comes with winning the division though and playing a tougher schedule. Still, we gotta find a way to go 2-2 going into our bye. I think Detroit and Oakland are both winnable games. Green Bay is tough...

The one saving grace is... I think the winner of the NFC East might be 9-7. The Eagles were really impressive for a half, but otherwise, I don't think any of the four NFC East teams really looked that great in week one.

It's a long season, I was encouraged by the second half....but man I really wish we didn't have to play the Packers thsi week.

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[quote=Mattyk;1024386]Morris by all accounts had a great offseason and training camp. I think he just had an off night and wasn't getting great blocking either. 2 fumbles in one game isn't him at all. He'll get back on track no doubt.[/quote]

Morris having a great training camp isn't the issue. What precluded the 1600 yards last season was a great preseason, which also gained him the starting rb position. Not meaning to second guess everything, but I have this personal quirk to look at what I think the issues are and what causes them. First question that I ask myself is - was it an issue before? If not, what is different that might have caused this issue? And those things are what I came up with. I know it's important to rest the starting running back during preseason, but it shouldn't be at the expense of being off in the first game of the regular season. There must be a number of preseason snaps that's balanced enough to be sharp enough and to also allow for fresh legs and season/career longevity.

I also believe that this team needs to be taken back from the media. The team can't always be held accountable to the media. Do what's best for the team (and fans) and start ignoring the criticism from outsiders, especially the media.

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The team got on track. It will stay on track. AceintheHouse told me (not really) that we are going 15-1.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/480/eagles-33-redskins-27-ten-observations]Eagles 33, Redskins 27: Ten observations - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

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My observations:

*RGIII came out looking like he had not been in a game since January...it was to be expected. The entire offense looked like they were out-of-sync with Griffin...it was to be expected.

*Griffin eventually got comfortable and his accuracy came back. He proved he can still run effectively AND SAFELY. He showed that he has learned from his injury and went towards sidelines instead of trying for the extra yard. He's playing smart and taking care of himself.

*The defense, despite being on the field for the entire first half effectively, did make some great stops and hit Vick a lot. Vick's passing numbers were mediocre as expected with only one WR, whose numbers of course looked like he was the only receiver.

*Good show, Chip. No one saw these crazy formations with an offensive tackle lined up as a WR coming...but it's not going to be effective much longer. It's on film. The league will figure it out. In fact, the Redskins figured it out before the game was over. Once you slow down, which you HAVE to do, your offense is nothing special.

*Michael Vick will not last the season. He might not last half of the season. He was hit hard and hit often last night and was visibly hurt before the 60 minutes were up.

*The pace does wear down the opposing defenses. It also wears down the Philly offense. Early in the second half, the Eagles offensive players were cramping up, gasping for air and even McCoy had to sit down. He had a great night but even he can't keep it up for 4 quarters. It may work in college with no limits on roster size, 20 year-olds running around for you and inexperienced defenses, but an injury-prone 33 year-old QB won't be able to keep this up. He barely made it through the first game.

*I am not panicked about our team. Once things settled down on both sides of the ball, we started to look like the team I'm expecting this year. We will still win the division. We have a more talented, deeper roster than anyone in the division. Dallas has defensive and offensive line issues, Tony Romo and a starting RB who can break in any minute. New Jersey has NO running game or defense. The Philly experiment will take a similar course to the Spurrier Project. We'll be fine. Griffin will come back to the superstar we knew last year. Morris will be running over the league again. Our defense will dominate teams we can actually prepare for. Kai won't miss any more easy FGs.

*I'm in shock by how the game started but no one knew what crazy Chip would pull out of his magic bag. It's out now. We've seen it and we'll figure it out just like the rest of the league. I'll give them until about week 6 before they start the inevitable downslide. He's going to run his players into the ground. Vick WILL get hurt soon. The other two QBs are not mobile and cannot run the offense like Vick can. If McCoy gets hurt, they have only DeSean Jackson left on offense and he has no track record of making it through a full season health-wise or mentally. He's all dancing and taunting (and fighting) when they're winning, but when they lose, he checks out.


HTTR. Next week will be better for RGIII and everyone. Every week will get better than the last as he settles back into live football. I'm thrilled he not only started to back back into the pace of the game before the first game was even over, but that he played smart and made it through the first game unscathed. He took some huge hits and even when being drilled into the ground by a LB, he got his legs up and protected his knees.

I read the game-day thread and some people were calling for Cousins and even Pat White. Robert needs reps. He won't get back to himself in practices, he needs regular season game reps. There was no other way to bring him back than put him in the game and let him find his groove again. If we benched him for a month to practice and brought him in Week 4 or 5, the rust would still be there. He's been practicing. He needs to play and the sooner we get his game back, the sooner we start dominating the league. There's absolutely no reason to delay that for any number of weeks. He's healthy, he needs to stay in and play through his inevitable early struggles. He made a lot of progress last night.

He'll be fine, people. We'll be fine. Even if it takes a few more games to get this thing rolling at full speed, don't overreact and panic. Remember last season? 3-6 start? We finished 10-6 and ARE DIVISION CHAMPIONS. We shall repeat. This isn't Zorn and Campbell. This is a Super Bowl-caliber coaching staff and front office with one of the greatest athletes on the planet right now running the show.

The new Steve Spurrier is wearing an ugly shade of green this season.

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[quote=SBXVII;1024395]Trying to be honest. Orakpo was there but it looked like he was being held most of the first half and the refs were not calling it. The refs finally started calling it late second quarter and second half.

I'll give the Eagles credit. This is exactly what I was afraid would happen. while all my friends were talking Super Bowl I stayed reserved.

I don't know what I would have done differently not knowing what the Eagles were going to do. I might have started Cousins and tried to see how he did against the Eagles defense, BUT.... this game is also all about money. People came to the game to see RG3. The reason our first game was Mon. night was so all the league could see RG3. People and media would have been upset if the team put Cousin in to start.

but keep in mind his timing might have been better with Morris and the WR's. If it looked like a cluster then I would have put RG3 in just to try and make something happen. But that's why I'm not a HC. ;)[/quote]

In defense of the eagles o-line, all linemen hold, it is the good defensive players that adjust and counter to make the plays. I also disagree with the Cousins scenario, personally I don't care who is under center as long as the Skins win. I look at this game as Roberts preseason game. We knew and the coaches knew he would be rusty. I am not going to go so far as to argue they were giving this game away to get Robert game time conditioning. If the adjustments made in the second half are any indication, we will see a better offense with less turnovers in the first half against GB.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1024403]My observations:

*RGIII came out looking like he had not been in a game since January...it was to be expected. The entire offense looked like they were out-of-sync with Griffin...it was to be expected.

*Griffin eventually got comfortable and his accuracy came back. He proved he can still run effectively AND SAFELY. He showed that he has learned from his injury and went towards sidelines instead of trying for the extra yard. He's playing smart and taking care of himself.

*The defense, despite being on the field for the entire first half effectively, did make some great stops and hit Vick a lot. Vick's passing numbers were mediocre as expected with only one WR, whose numbers of course looked like he was the only receiver.

*Good show, Chip. No one saw these crazy formations with an offensive tackle lined up as a WR coming...but it's not going to be effective much longer. It's on film. The league will figure it out. In fact, the Redskins figured it out before the game was over. Once you slow down, which you HAVE to do, your offense is nothing special.

*Michael Vick will not last the season. He might not last half of the season. He was hit hard and hit often last night and was visibly hurt before the 60 minutes were up.

*The pace does wear down the opposing defenses. It also wears down the Philly offense. Early in the second half, the Eagles offensive players were cramping up, gasping for air and even McCoy had to sit down. He had a great night but even he can't keep it up for 4 quarters. It may work in college with no limits on roster size, 20 year-olds running around for you and inexperienced defenses, but an injury-prone 33 year-old QB won't be able to keep this up. He barely made it through the first game.

*I am not panicked about our team. Once things settled down on both sides of the ball, we started to look like the team I'm expecting this year. We will still win the division. We have a more talented, deeper roster than anyone in the division. Dallas has defensive and offensive line issues, Tony Romo and a starting RB who can break in any minute. New Jersey has NO running game or defense. The Philly experiment will take a similar course to the Spurrier Project. We'll be fine. Griffin will come back to the superstar we knew last year. Morris will be running over the league again. Our defense will dominate teams we can actually prepare for. Kai won't miss any more easy FGs.

*I'm in shock by how the game started but no one knew what crazy Chip would pull out of his magic bag. It's out now. We've seen it and we'll figure it out just like the rest of the league. I'll give them until about week 6 before they start the inevitable downslide. He's going to run his players into the ground. Vick WILL get hurt soon. The other two QBs are not mobile and cannot run the offense like Vick can. If McCoy gets hurt, they have only DeSean Jackson left on offense and he has no track record of making it through a full season health-wise or mentally. He's all dancing and taunting (and fighting) when they're winning, but when they lose, he checks out.


HTTR. Next week will be better for RGIII and everyone. Every week will get better than the last as he settles back into live football. I'm thrilled he not only started to back back into the pace of the game before the first game was even over, but that he played smart and made it through the first game unscathed. He took some huge hits and even when being drilled into the ground by a LB, he got his legs up and protected his knees.

He'll be fine, people. We'll be fine. Even if it takes a few more games to get this thing rolling at full speed, don't overreact and panic. Remember last season? 3-6 start? We finished 10-6 and ARE DIVISION CHAMPIONS. We shall repeat. This isn't Zorn and Campbell. This is a Super Bowl-caliber coaching staff and front office with one of the greatest athletes on the planet right now running the show.

The new Steve Spurrier is wearing an ugly shade of green this season.[/quote]

Good post I agree. If we are 2-2 at the BYE I think we are in a good position.

The future is so bright I got wear shades!

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[quote=mredskins;1024405]Good post I agree. If we are 2-2 at the BYE I think we are in a good position.

The future is so bright I got wear shades![/quote]

Amen, brother. We agree!

Week 3 and 4...Detroit and Oakland. 2-2 is probable.

Green Bay just had a disaster trying to defend OUR offense being run by SF. 3-1 is even possible, but I won't give up on the team if Griff needs a few more games to settle in.

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Problem with Philly is you cant run that no huddle stuff all season long, guys will get worn down and I'm sorry but we really gave them that W with those 3 TO's and safety early on. I would still say we win the east at 10-6

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I just love how people think we can just show up and beat Detroit. Same thing people said about last night too. Did anyone happen to catch Oakland? They very easily could have beaten Indy at Indy. One game at a time people.

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People keep hounding the defense, but here is something to note. Shortly into the third quarter, the time of possession was 22 minutes (philly) compared to our measly 9 mins. Another useful stat is our third down conversion, which was a horrible 2-10 along with the 3 turnovers. I'm sorry, but you can't keep putting the defense in absolute horrible situations for that long and not expect them to break. No defense is going to hold up to that. Well, none that aren't the mid 2000's Ravens or Bucs. Notice how when our offense started clicking, our defense started to hold their offense down. That said, there is absolutely NO excuse for all those missed tackles. That's basic football right there and something taught at the pee wee level. Our LBs are still horrible in coverage as well.


Sustaining drives. This is our biggest issue, and much of it has to do with stupid ass penalties. Make a great play? Guess what, it's negated because somebody wanted to hold. Hey, that 15 yard catch? No good, illegal motion. Third and short? Nope, lets move back another 5 yards for off-sides. The list goes on and on about how we shoot ourselves in the foot time and time again. We aren't going to be contending with anybody until that gets fixed. If it doesn't, don't expect this team to go far.

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Tackling around the league was just horrible in week 1. Teams don't hit much anymore in practice so it's to be expected. I think we'll start to see improvement in that area in weeks 2 and 3.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1024408]Problem with Philly is you cant run that no huddle stuff all season long, guys will get worn down and I'm sorry but we really gave them that W with those 3 TO's and safety early on. I would still say we win the east at 10-6[/quote]

Yeah that's why I'm questioning whether they can hold up all year at that pace. More plays = more possibilities of injuries, and Chip's pass pro schemes seems to leave the QB open for some big hits. Once there's more tape on this offense I think defenses are going to blitz more and more.

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Quick observation, we scored 27 points yesterday which was the lowest total of our division, everyone else hit at least 30. Remember when the East was all about tough defenses? Its a shoot out division folks.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1024410]People keep hounding the defense, but here is something to note. Shortly into the third quarter, the time of possession was 22 minutes (philly) compared to our measly 9 mins. Another useful stat is our third down conversion, which was a horrible 2-10 along with the 3 turnovers. I'm sorry, but you can't keep putting the defense in absolute horrible situations for that long and not expect them to break. No defense is going to hold up to that. Well, none that aren't the mid 2000's Ravens or Bucs. Notice how when our offense started clicking, our defense started to hold their offense down. That said, there is absolutely NO excuse for all those missed tackles. That's basic football right there and something taught at the pee wee level. Our LBs are still horrible in coverage as well.


Sustaining drives. This is our biggest issue, and much of it has to do with stupid ass penalties. Make a great play? Guess what, it's negated because somebody wanted to hold. Hey, that 15 yard catch? No good, illegal motion. Third and short? Nope, lets move back another 5 yards for off-sides. The list goes on and on about how we shoot ourselves in the foot time and time again. We aren't going to be contending with anybody until that gets fixed. If it doesn't, don't expect this team to go far.[/quote]

Plenty of blame to go around. The offense stunk for most of the game and so did the defense and so did the coaches. And not buying the.."we didn't have any tape of their offense"...um did the coaches watch Oregon at all? No excuses....they were clearly the better team last night.

There were a lot of things that didn't go out way on offense. Fumbles, drops, ints and penalties. The good news is I believe all that can be cleaned up.

It sucks to have your first real offensive drive in the 3rd quarter. And it's very hard to win in those sorts of circumstances.

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[quote=Mattyk;1024412]Tackling around the league was just horrible in week 1. Teams don't hit much anymore in practice so it's to be expected. I think we'll start to see improvement in that area in weeks 2 and 3.[/quote]

I think the whole illegal hits issue would diminish if teams would teach players to wrap up and take down when making tackles. I saw our young DBs way too many times yesterday throwing themselves without any attempt at wrapping up the player that they were tackling.

Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 

[quote=warriorzpath;1024399]Morris having a great training camp isn't the issue. What precluded the 1600 yards last season was a great preseason, which also gained him the starting rb position. Not meaning to second guess everything, but I have this personal quirk to look at what I think the issues are and what causes them. First question that I ask myself is - was it an issue before? If not, what is different that might have caused this issue? And those things are what I came up with. I know it's important to rest the starting running back during preseason, but it shouldn't be at the expense of being off in the first game of the regular season. There must be a number of preseason snaps that's balanced enough to be sharp enough and to also allow for fresh legs and season/career longevity.

I also believe that this team needs to be taken back from the media. The team can't always be held accountable to the media. Do what's best for the team (and fans) and start ignoring the criticism from outsiders, especially the media.[/quote]

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Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread
 

I will say, some of our fans had no rust whatsoever in the first game. They were in true form the first half of our season opener. Bailing ship and doing their best Bill "game over man" Paxton impersonation. :doh: