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[quote=punch it in;1032872]After a nite to reflect:
Good: griffin on the run - looked like he had a burst and was getting out of bounds when he had to
D-hall, and really the d in general
Rocca looked good
Bad: garcon got schooled
Rg-3's accuracy
Edit: how could i forget clock management - just God awful
Playcalling was out of a comic book, mainly the all time headscratcher of a decision to abandon the no huddle against a very thin d front that was on its heels with Ware in the game - the first drive when they were not winded!
[B]Redzone offense[/B]
Penalties/ discipline[/quote]

We seem to be kinda stalled out between our 30 and opponents 30. We have no deep ball so we can't throw for TDs. We can't rush all game. We might as well be playing with no O-line. PLaycalling goes from abysmal to decent, then back to abysmal. There was some play that was like 2 and 10 or 3 and long, and we called some sort of shotgun draw. Come on, really man? You know we don't have the blocking for a draw play to work.

I've never seen a team rack up so many yards and then completely stall out in the opponents end of the field. Through 5 games don't we only have 1 first half TD? What in the world kind of statistic is that?

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Can't run a no huddle all game. Especially when RG3 can barely find the right reads when you do huddle. He's not reading defenses very good right now. He missed a wide open PG for a score, and missed a WIDE OPEN Jordan Reed for a score last night.

Garcon had a lot of nice plays last night, and wouldn't say he got schooled. You can't really listen to the announcers much. If RG3 actually hits him on the post route he's open on. He scores, and has 140+ yards.

It's amazing how one play can play out one way or another..

Also, Kehl blew his knee out on the punt return TD. In which, he was in route to make the tackle on Harris. Talk about getting punched in the mouth on one play.

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[quote=scowan;1032785]Man, do we wish we still had Lorenzo Alexander. That $18 million penalty is till hurting us.

[B][I][SIZE="4"]Also, is it just me? Or do the rest of you wonder why all of our kick off return guys want to bring it out from 8 yards deep only to get to the 13 yard line???????[/SIZE][/I][/B]

Isn't there an unwritten rule that if you are more than 3 or 4 yards deep you take a knee?[/quote]

No its not just you,thats another special team coaching problem.I would have specific instructions,if the ball is more than 3 ft deep,dont bring it out!! or expect a fine
I was so grateful when the kickoff would be so deep or out that they werent tempted to bring it out
Also I would have Moss returning punts and I would give Aldrick Robinson a chance at kickoffs,at least he has the speed to go somewhere with it

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[YT]tRBDMMVctu8[/YT]


Somebody needs to do one out in front of FedEx.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1032845]Lets all slow the RG3 is a bust talk. Last yr we were all praising him like he was Elway. Now just because he's having a tough start he's a bum.[/quote]

Too early for bust talk. But right now he isn't even better than Tannehill. Some of his passes looked like a high school QB would throw. He needs some help but he left too many plays our there last night.

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Go_Inside_the_Locker_Room_with_Robert_Griffin_III/d299d914-1dc4-4770-ad50-eeb7b1bea3f4]Go Inside the Locker Room with Robert Griffin III[/url]


Good post game interview with Rob. Notice he said some of those passes have to be caught. He also took credit for some of those errant passes as well.

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Alarming stat...

Griffin has only 19 snaps under center when the team has been winning. Out of a total of 341 offensive snaps.

Yeah............. Talk about playing from behind.

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One positive about RG3 last night is his legs look damn near 100%.

One negative about RG3 last night is he gave Mark Sanchez a run for his money in terms of pocket passing and awareness.

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[quote=Bucket;1032897]Alarming stat...

Griffin has only 19 snaps under center when the team has been winning. Out of a total of 341 offensive snaps.

Yeah............. Talk about playing from behind.[/quote]

More alarming is he has more fumbles than any other player in the league since 2012 (yes even more than David Wilson)

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1032899]More alarming is he has more fumbles than any other player in the league since 2012 (yes even more than David Wilson)[/quote]

Yeah. I'm thinking we got spoiled last year, but RG3 has a lot of growing pains to go through and it showed tonight as well. He tried to take the team on his shoulders and I commend him for that because that is what I want in a QB, but he missed to many plays tonight and now we have everyone calling for the coaches. The coaches didn't miss those plays, miss tackles, and jump offsides.

The biggest thing is we lack a huge play maker because we we don't have the funds to bring one in. Either on defense or offense. We have a lot of solid players that play well, but we don't have a Dez Bryant, or a Sean Lee.

Also, people want to bash the Offensive Line, but RG3 mental clock is off. He held the ball way to long last night on many different occasions.

Hard to blame the line when Trent dominates every game . Dude is a freak

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One thing that has been bugging me all season that bugged me last night too: RGIII just doesn't look like he has the same competitive fire or laser-like focus that he had last year. When he's on the sidelines, it often seems that he's sitting by himself, perhaps nodding and acknowledging what folks are saying but not really looking at them -- he seems to be staring ahead in something of a fog.

I realize that those kinds of camrea shots are what the networks often look for when a team is behind, but I just haven't seen any of the last year's RGIII roaming the sidelines and talking up his receivers (and even the D). This year, he seems kind of indifferent to everything.

I'd be curious if anyone else has this view. (And if not, I will go back to my padded cell.)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1032914]Hard to blame the line when Trent dominates every game . Dude is a freak[/quote]

What does that mean?

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means the pass protection hasn't been as bad as ppl think.

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last night Griff had time to throw and he stood around waiting for a WR to get open thats y he was sacked

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Trent's been fine. But he's just one guy. Kory, Will, and especially Chester have been awful. And LeRibeus is regressing, which is sad considering he hasn't even accomplished anything. And who knows what the deal is with Gettis.

It's a problem

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I agree but we all knew the Right side was a problem last yr and nothing was done about it

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1032918]last night Griff had time to throw and he stood around waiting for a WR to get open thats y he was sacked[/QUOTE]

Dallas defense front seven is week and thin n Ware didnt play most of the game. Minus a 45 yard run from Almo we got no push whatsoever. As for the pass protection he was hurried alot and pockets broke doen all nite. Chester sucks and so does Tyler.

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[quote=punch it in;1032922]Dallas defense front seven is week and thin n Ware didnt play most of the game. Minus a 45 yard run from Almo we got no push whatsoever. As for the pass protection he was hurried alot and pockets broke doen all nite. Chester sucks and so does Tyler.[/quote]

There is not suppose to be push on a zone stretch scheme.. just control.

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Is there a problem between RG3 and Kyle?

A couple times last night I sensed frustration when Kyle and RG3 were talking on the sidelines and another time in the 3rd where RG3 was over center calling out stuff on the line and camera cut away to Kyle on the sideline who looked less than thrilled with what was going on...did anybody pick up on that? Or im I just looking to hard?

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I have picked up on it all season long, I don't think RG3 likes this system

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Nick Sundberg and Bryan Kehl are done for the year, so says Mike Shanahan

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By the look of things, our Special teams can afford it..........

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[quote=skinsfan69;1032793]I think what pissed me off the most is here we are down 14 or 15 points well in the 4th q....and we're huddling. Why? How many damn times have we seen this under Shanahan? Here we have a coach who is almost the highest paid in the league and he can't run no huddle? He can't manage the clock? He's not calling the plays so what is he doing? WTF is that all about? I hate to blow it up, I think Mike gets one more year but he needs to fire his son.[/quote]

What makes Shanahan's lack of urgency and poor clock management even more egregious is that the offense has been at its most effective in the no huddle this season.

Why should Mike get one more year? We've seen what he has to offer and it isn't good enough for him to continue as HC. I hated the idea of blowing it up when I still felt that he was the right man for the job. I no longer feel that way. Now I hate that he is getting one more minute as HC.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1032788]No they can't. But Romo didn't have 200 yards, Bryant didn't have 40 yards. Last night, the defense did it's job. Yesterday, that loss is on the crappy offense and even worse special teams.[/quote]

Is that a 'moral victory'?

Not sure thats enough to hang my hat on. Must remember that Dallas played with a lead from the opening possession. Play calling changes when playing with the lead. He was only sacked once for 5 yards and stayed relatively upright for 4 quarters.

Romo didn't have 200 yards, because he didn't need it.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1032938]Is that a 'moral victory'?

Not sure thats enough to hang my hat on. Must remember that Dallas played with a lead from the opening possession. Play calling changes when playing with the lead. He was only sacked once for 5 yards and stayed relatively upright for 4 quarters.

Romo didn't have 200 yards, because he didn't need it.[/quote]


No need to talk trash about 2 bad teams, yeah yal won Trap but Dallas isn't any good either and that is obvious. They just made the bigger plays last night like we did last yr in both of our wins vs Dal. There is no way that No name D and no run game wins 9 or 10 games. 8-8 at best imo.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1032938]Is that a 'moral victory'?

Not sure thats enough to hang my hat on. Must remember that Dallas played with a lead from the opening possession. Play calling changes when playing with the lead. He was only sacked once for 5 yards and stayed relatively upright for 4 quarters.

Romo didn't have 200 yards, because he didn't need it.[/quote]

He didnt need those completions he missed? Dez got shut the eff down too, gameplanned I imagine right?

Your coaches did the right thing in running the ball, because the more Romo attempts, the more likely he'll throw the pick that loses them the game...ie:well you know

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A review of four hot issues following the Washington Redskins' 31-16 loss to the Dallas Cowboys:

It’s tough to defend the clock management at the end of the first half. Redskins coach Mike Shanahan defended the way Washington handled the end of the first half with timeouts and play calls. Shanahan knows more about coaching than I’ll ever know, but in this case here's what is known: The Redskins had a chance to stop the clock at Dallas’ 17-yard line with 37 seconds left. They would have had one timeout left. Conceivably, they could have run several more plays by stopping the clock at this point. They also would have been more limited to where they could throw with only one timeout, or whether they could run the ball. Still, they trailed 14-3 at the time and had a chance to gain momentum before the half. Instead, the Redskins ran three plays, including a quarterback keeper on third-and-10. They got their field goal; but they also lost a chance for more plays and, perhaps, more points.

[+] EnlargeRobert Griffin III
AP Photo/Tim SharpRobert Griffin III finished the loss to the Cowboys with 19 completions for 246 yards and no TDs.
Robert Griffin III regressed during the game from a passing standpoint. He completed nine-of-21 passes for only 112 yards in the second half, looking off-target on too many throws. The interception in the end zone wasn’t just on him, as receiver Santana Moss slipped and fell after the ball had been thrown. Griffin was under duress often and it possibly impacted his accuracy. Regardless, Griffin’s passer rating got worse in each quarter, starting with a 111.5 rating in the first quarter and finishing with a 25.0 in the fourth. He ran well; it wasn’t nearly enough.

Washington’s defense played its best game of the season, bothering quarterback Tony Romo enough to hurt his accuracy. Corner DeAngelo Hall did a terrific job on receiver Dez Bryant and, after a bad first series, the defense did a better job tackling. For the third straight game they also stopped the run. For the first time this season they did not allow a play of more than 20 yards. After a horrific start, the defense can feel better about themselves entering the Chicago game.

Bad calls occur every game. But the Redskins lost a chance to gain early momentum when the officials ruled that B.W. Webb was a passive player when he was blocked into the ball on a Washington punt. That meant it was not a fumble. But former vice president of officiating Mike Pereira told WFJK-FM’s Grant Paulsen that he would have ruled it a fumble because Webb was an active blocker, extending his arms to block Washington’s Jerome Murphy. The Redskins would have had the ball at the Cowboys’ 24-yard line trailing by a touchdown. They did force a punt and drove for a field goal. But they lost a chance at more points.



BY JOHN KEIM

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[quote=Chico23231;1032941]He didnt need those completions he missed? Dez got shut the eff down too, gameplanned I imagine right?

Your coaches did the right thing in running the ball, because the more Romo attempts, the more likely he'll throw the pick that loses them the game...ie:well you know[/quote]
Easy man, it's not like he lost a fumble on his own 3 yard line or anything.

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D Ware out 4 games

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Sandtrapjack, nowhere to be found after the Redskins two wins over the Cowboys last year. Yet here he is today.

Say what you will about Giantone, but he shows up win or lose

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[quote=SmootSmack;1032945]Sandtrapjack, nowhere to be found after the Redskins two wins over the Cowboys last year. Yet here he is today.

Say what you will about Giantone, but he shows up win or lose[/quote]

Expect nothing less from a chicken shit Cowgirls fan.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1032945]Sandtrapjack, nowhere to be found after the Redskins two wins over the Cowboys last year. Yet here he is today.

Say what you will about Giantone, but he shows up win or lose[/quote]


LMAO just like MOST cowboys fans, they hide when they suck but let them win a game or 2 and there they are.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1032943]Easy man, it's not like he lost a fumble on his own 3 yard line or anything.[/quote]

yeah we gave you the assist on that one. And the special teams playS.

But yeah, yall sure as hell couldnt move the ball against us.

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Hey we managed to not only lose our long snapper, Sundberg but also Kehl to season ending injuries! Huzzah!

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Dallas sucks , Eagles suck ,skins are garbage and giants are stupid bad.

Who cares about the east this yr?? The winner is a 1 and done anyway

[QUOTE=Bucket;1032924]There is not suppose to be push on a zone stretch scheme.. just control.[/QUOTE]

Point taken...i will rephrase - there was no control. My point being we couldnt run the ****ing ball against a depleted front 7.

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[quote=Chico23231;1032941][B]He didnt need those completions he missed? Dez got shut the eff down too[/B], gameplanned I imagine right?

Your coaches did the right thing in running the ball, because the more Romo attempts, the more likely he'll throw the pick that loses them the game...ie:well you know[/quote]

That's not how it works in D my friend....Dez did not have those completions because?
Because he did not need them. Nothing to do with Superior defense and specifically #23. Sincerely, Jerra'
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

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[quote=SmootSmack;1032945]Sandtrapjack, nowhere to be found after the Redskins two wins over the Cowboys last year. Yet here he is today.

Say what you will about Giantone, but he shows up win or lose[/quote]

Yup, in terms of sportsmanship Giantone has a classiness that other "alien" posters here lack.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1032951]Hey we managed to not only lose our long snapper, Sundberg but also Kehl to season ending injuries! Huzzah![/quote]

Here's mah link.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/14/redskins-lose-nick-sundberg-bryan-kehl-for-the-season/]Redskins lose Nick Sundberg, Bryan Kehl for the season | ProFootballTalk[/url]