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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1053971]There was drama back then too, good read:
[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/01/07/the-gibbs-coaching-search/"]The Gibbs coaching search[/URL][/quote] Pretty interesting stuff looking back at some of the names. Howard S, John Robinson and Dan Reeves. I think Cooke made the right choice. But all the old timers were loyal to Pardee. |
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1053971]There was drama back then too, good read:
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/01/07/the-gibbs-coaching-search/]The Gibbs coaching search[/url][/quote] That was awesome! Thanks for that. I especially like the quote where Jack Kent Cooke is depicted as a destructive, meddlesome owner but Edward Bennett Williams "would never do that." |
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I voted Bevell simply because of what I've seen from Russell Wilson. If he could RGIII to run an efficient offense like that I'd be euphoric.
Being around that Seattle defense and their coaching staff doesn't hurt either. Other than that I have no preference to anyone on our list. I'm not familiar with any of them and won't do enough research before we sign one to give a valid critique. All I know is I want our next coach to absolutely HATE losing. We need someone with a Harbaugh like passion. |
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I'll take any coordinator from San Fran or Seattle
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Jay Gruden and Bruce Allen having dinner the night before the interview. Wonder if anyone else got thay treatment
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[quote=Bucket;1054086]Jay Gruden and Bruce Allen having dinner the night before the interview. Wonder if anyone else got thay treatment[/quote]
Some fans would say RGIII before he was drafted....lol |
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Jim Cadwell may deserve a look in the second round if we get to that.
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[quote=sevier2;1054067]I voted Bevell simply because of what I've seen from Russell Wilson. If he could RGIII to run an efficient offense like that I'd be euphoric.
Being around that Seattle defense and their coaching staff doesn't hurt either. Other than that I have no preference to anyone on our list. I'm not familiar with any of them and won't do enough research before we sign one to give a valid critique. All I know is I want our next coach to absolutely HATE losing. We need someone with a Harbaugh like passion.[/quote] Yeah I was thinking the same thing.Ive seen people close to the situation talk about how much work Wilson puts in learning the position,film study etc. I have no idea how much time RG3 puts in,I have never heard anyone discuss it,I would love to know. If he doesnt,maybe Bevell could help that situation,who knows |
[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1054110]Yeah I was thinking the same thing.Ive seen people close to the situation talk about how much work Wilson puts in learning the position,film study etc.
I have no idea how much time RG3 puts in,I have never heard anyone discuss it,I would love to know. If he doesnt,maybe Bevell could help that situation,who knows[/QUOTE] He's a first in last out type. I don't think anyone can question his work ethic. |
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In my perfect scnario, I'd take Gruden as HC with Bevell as OC and Zimmer as DC. :D
I cannot decide between Gruden, Bevell and Wisenhunt. I'd like to see Wisenhunt bring in Russ Grimm, but bringing in Bevell is intriguing and I love the idea of taking one of Seattle's coaches away from them. I'm just not sure if he's ready to make the leap from OC to HC. If we could get him as an OC, that would be great but I highly doubt he'd make a parallel career move and leave Seattle without a promotion. McDermott would be a good choice too. I really think it all hinges on what assistants will be joining the new coach, especially the defensive coordinator. |
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[quote=htownskinfan;1054110]Yeah I was thinking the same thing.Ive seen people close to the situation talk about how much work Wilson puts in learning the position,film study etc.
[B]I have no idea how much time RG3 puts in,I have never heard anyone discuss it,I would love to know.[/B] If he doesnt,maybe Bevell could help that situation,who knows[/quote] Certainly, prior to the recent character assassination pieces coming out, there were multiple stories him being first guy on the bus, last one out of the film room, etc. Even in all the "boy emperor" crap coming out, no one has disparaged his work ethic. |
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[quote=Bucket;1054086]Jay Gruden and Bruce Allen having dinner the night before the interview. Wonder if anyone else got thay treatment[/quote]
I think that would be fairly standard treatment for any of the serious candidates. If memory serves even Zorn got treated to a dinner and he was already on staff. |
[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1054116]Certainly, prior to the recent character assassination pieces coming out, there were multiple stories him being first guy on the bus, last one out of the film room, etc. Even in all the "boy emperor" crap coming out, no one has disparaged his work ethic.[/QUOTE]
I have not seen anybody criticize his work ethic but I do not remember reading any stories about how good it was either I do not remember any football commentators commenting on how good his work ethic is etc., which I have seen them do about Wilson. If you say there were multiple stories then that's good to know I just haven't seen any |
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[quote=Bucket;1054086]Jay Gruden and Bruce Allen having dinner the night before the interview. Wonder if anyone else got thay treatment[/quote]
Call Sally Jenkins. DinnerGate has begun. More seriously, dining with candidates outside of the formal interview is pretty normal stuff. |
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[quote=JoeRedskin;1054116]Certainly, prior to the recent character assassination pieces coming out, there were multiple stories him being first guy on the bus, last one out of the film room, etc. Even in all the "boy emperor" crap coming out, no one has disparaged his work ethic.[/quote]
So I googled RG3 work ethic and I did find some articles saying it was pretty good,so thats indeed good news. I thought this was a very good article: [url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1894502-teammate-on-rgiii-i-dont-think-hes-changed-since-the-first-time-i-met-him]Teammate on RGIII: 'I Don't Think He's Changed Since the First Time I Met Him' | Bleacher Report[/url] This is my favorite line from the article:"Some players, like Polumbus, say Griffin has been unfairly portrayed as an egotistical douche. " |
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[quote=Monkeydad;1054114]In my perfect scnario, I'd take Gruden as HC with Bevell as OC and Zimmer as DC. :D
I cannot decide between Gruden, Bevell and Wisenhunt. I'd like to see Wisenhunt bring in Russ Grimm, but bringing in Bevell is intriguing and I love the idea of taking one of Seattle's coaches away from them. I'm just not sure if he's ready to make the leap from OC to HC. If we could get him as an OC, that would be great but I highly doubt he'd make a parallel career move and leave Seattle without a promotion. McDermott would be a good choice too. I really think it all hinges on what assistants will be joining the new coach, especially the defensive coordinator.[/quote] Quite a dream. I can definitely see two coordinators of playoff teams who are garnering attention as HC candidates going to be coordinators for a 3-13 team. :) |
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On Twitter [quote=MarkMaske]: One source says Jay Gruden seems to prefer Titans over Redskins but has been told Redskins might make offer that would be tough to refuse.[/quote]
While I'm not all in or all out on Gruden, I don't think we should overbid or overpay for him. Make an offer, if he likes it good, if not, don't get into a back and forth for him. I don't think he's a can't miss coaching prospect that you have to get. |
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[quote=Paintrain;1054127]On Twitter
While I'm not all in or all out on Gruden, I don't think we should overbid or overpay for him. Make an offer, if he likes it good, if not, don't get into a back and forth for him. I don't think he's a can't miss coaching prospect that you have to get.[/quote] Here is the link. [url=http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/01/08/redskins-strongly-interested-in-jay-gruden-but-facing-competition/]Redskins strongly interested in Jay Gruden but facing competition - The Washington Post[/url] |
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[quote=Paintrain;1054127]On Twitter
While I'm not all in or all out on Gruden, I don't think we should overbid or overpay for him. Make an offer, if he likes it good, if not, don't get into a back and forth for him. I don't think he's a can't miss coaching prospect that you have to get.[/quote] i agree...make a fair offer and if he doesnt accept then move on. |
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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/08/tug-of-war-could-be-emerging-for-jay-gruden/]Tug-of-war could be emerging for Jay Gruden | ProFootballTalk[/url]
"That said, it’s no surprise that Jay Gruden would be inclined to avoid a potentially destructive situation in D.C., given the reported attitude of the quarterback and the accepted reputation of the owner. And it’s no surprise that Snyder may have to pay a premium in order to lure a candidate who has options elsewhere." sigh |
Lol yeah let's overpay for an unproven coach smfh
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I'm sorry, I am not a Jay Gruden fan. I've watch some Bengals games, and Andy Dalton does nothing to impress me. All he has to do is throw the ball in the same zip code as A.J. Green and Green will go get it and make him look good. I am not sure his ability to develop QBs is any better than anyone else in the league when you look at Dalton. I would rather them choose the OC from Seattle who is working with Russell Wilson and Lynch. I really like what Seattle does offensively.
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[QUOTE=scowan;1054137]I'm sorry, I am not a Jay Gruden fan. I've watch some Bengals games, and Andy Dalton does nothing to impress me. All he has to do is throw the ball in the same zip code as A.J. Green and Green will go get it and make him look good. I am not sure his ability to develop QBs is any better than anyone else in the league when you look at Dalton. I would rather them choose the OC from Seattle who is working with Russell Wilson and Lynch. I really like what Seattle does offensively.[/QUOTE]
Well Dalton isn't Griffin and Seattle plays it safe and runs a simple offense because of that def they have. That said I don't want gruden either |
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[quote=skinsfaninok;1054136]Lol yeah let's overpay for an unproven coach smfh[/quote]
Well a lot of the people they're talking to are unproven as head coaches. |
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[quote=Chico23231;1054135][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/08/tug-of-war-could-be-emerging-for-jay-gruden/"]Tug-of-war could be emerging for Jay Gruden | ProFootballTalk[/URL]
[B]"That said, it’s no surprise that Jay Gruden would be inclined to avoid a potentially destructive situation in D.C.[/B], given the reported attitude of the quarterback and the accepted reputation of the owner. And it’s no surprise that Snyder may have to pay a premium in order to lure a candidate who has options elsewhere." sigh[/quote] Well under Snyder we haven't had good history with head coaches. |
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1054139]Well a lot of the people they're talking to are unproven as head coaches.[/QUOTE]
Exactly which is y we should not go crazy |
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[quote=skinsfaninok;1054136]Lol yeah let's overpay for an unproven coach smfh[/quote]
Remember what happened with our last proven coach :D Honestly, if we don't get Gruden, I'd want James Franklin and if not him, then I'll bite on the Bevell pick. |
[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1054143]Remember what happened with our last proven coach :D
Honestly, if we don't get Gruden, I'd want James Franklin and if not him, then I'll bite on the Bevell pick.[/QUOTE] I just get that bad feeling that we r going after tge big splash again. Idk hopefully I'm wrong but after I was all in for mike.and company it was the last time I'll get my hopes that high |
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[quote=scowan;1054137]I'm sorry, I am not a Jay Gruden fan. I've watch some Bengals games, and Andy Dalton does nothing to impress me. All he has to do is throw the ball in the same zip code as A.J. Green and Green will go get it and make him look good. [B] I am not sure his ability to develop QBs is any better than anyone else in the league when you look at Dalton.[/B] I would rather them choose the OC from Seattle who is working with Russell Wilson and Lynch. I really like what Seattle does offensively.[/quote]
You can look at that a few different ways. Gruden could be making something out of nothing with Dalton. |
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[quote=Bucket;1054086]Jay Gruden and Bruce Allen having dinner the night before the interview. Wonder if anyone else got thay treatment[/quote]
If any of them were also former co-workers with Allen, I'm sure they will. People, especially in the media, read too far into things. They used to work together and one guy comes into town, so they have dinner to catch up. Heck, I wouldn't care if he invited Griffin to the dinner to meet the man who might be his new coach. Stafford sitting in on the Caldwell interview isn't an ESPN newsflash. |
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[quote=Monkeydad;1054146]If any of them were also former co-workers with Allen, I'm sure they will.
People, especially in the media, read too far into things. They used to work together and one guy comes into town, so they have dinner to catch up. Heck, I wouldn't care if he invited Griffin to the dinner to meet the man who might be his new coach. Stafford sitting in on the Caldwell interview isn't an ESPN newsflash.[/quote] I think you mean Jon worked with Bruce. |
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No, he was an offensive assistant under his brother with Bruce in Tampa from 2002-2008.
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[url=http://tracking.si.com/2014/01/08/greg-roman-penn-state-coach/?section=si_latest]Report: 49ers offensive coordinator Greg Roman a candidate for Penn State head coach | SI Wire[/url]
Roman to interview at PENN STATE |
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[quote=skinsfaninok;1054164][url=http://tracking.si.com/2014/01/08/greg-roman-penn-state-coach/?section=si_latest]Report: 49ers offensive coordinator Greg Roman a candidate for Penn State head*coach | SI Wire[/url]
Roman to interview at PENN STATE[/quote] That Penn State search is just as crazy as ours.. So far 'sources' have said that Mike Munchak, Al Golden and James Franklin were on the verge of being named Head Coach but the process keeps rolling. Football is never boring, on or off the field, lol. |
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Joe Gibbs prefers Whisenhunt
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/60412/joe-gibbs-sold-on-ken-whisenhunt]Joe Gibbs sold on Ken Whisenhunt - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url] |
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[quote=Lotus;1054166]Joe Gibbs prefers Whisenhunt
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/60412/joe-gibbs-sold-on-ken-whisenhunt]Joe Gibbs sold on Ken Whisenhunt - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote] I would love Whisenhunt (coach) Grimm OL, Horton or Bowles DC, Chud OC, combo. |
Well since roman appears to be more interested in PSU , I'd go witg Ken as my next choice
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1054167]I would love Whisenhunt (coach) Grimm OL, Horton or Bowles DC, Chud OC, combo.[/quote]
Wisenhunt-HC/Grimm-OC could be a great coaching staff. I'm still not sold on Wisenhunt, though. |
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who would be James Franklin's staff?
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[quote=Lotus;1054166]Joe Gibbs prefers Whisenhunt
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/60412/joe-gibbs-sold-on-ken-whisenhunt]Joe Gibbs sold on Ken Whisenhunt - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote] Joe is spot on about Whisenhunt and I wish we'd hire him. I don't care that he hasn't worked with Allen. He's a proven coach and seems to be able to communicate and work well with QB's. However, I'm sure he prefers the Detriot job over this one. |
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