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[quote=Mechanix544;1064239]Couldn't we, theoretically, release Polumbus if we sign Penn, and add another 2.0 million to our available cap?

If thats the case, I think a deal with Penn will definitely get done.

Cuts I would like to see happen

Chester - 2.7 mil added to cap space
Bowen - 1.98 mil added
Polumbus - 2.5 mil added
Golston - 1.01mil added[/quote]

Yes correct, if we sign Penn I think Polumbus is as good as gone.

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[quote=Mechanix544;1064235]Shoot, chester AND bowen[/quote]

I can see cutting them , but ............... shooting them seems unnecessary :)

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Decent article by Rich Tandler that sums up why the rookies will need less then $500k of cap space to sign.

[url=http://realredskins.com/2014/03/21/how-much-cap-space-do-the-redskins-needs-to-sign-their-draft-picks/]How much cap space do the Redskins needs to sign their draft picks? | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1064977]Decent article by Rich Tandler that sums up why the rookies will need less then $500k of cap space to sign.

[url=http://realredskins.com/2014/03/21/how-much-cap-space-do-the-redskins-needs-to-sign-their-draft-picks/]How much cap space do the Redskins needs to sign their draft picks? | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url][/quote]

very strange, the day before Tandler said " they need to make a cut or 2 to make a semi-major signing "

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[quote=Irrefutable;1065024]very strange, the day before Tandler said " they need to make a cut or 2 to make a semi-major signing "[/quote]

I think the earlier statement was calculating for the # of FA's we need to sign, given the many holes we have. Since the draft picks only have a hit of 500K this yr, their # is basically insignificant to the overall cap picture. Some of the FA signings will be 1 yr deals probably close to 1M. If we want to compete for a "semi-major" signing on top of those, we probably need to free up some space with cuts. I'm probably Jerry Jones when it comes to cap space (I think I understand what I'm doing, but I really don't and I want to make all the decisions) but I think that's what Tandler was trying to say with the two posts.

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[url=http://realredskins.com/2014/03/26/redskins-contracts-this-offseason-total-127-9-million/]Redskins’ contracts this offseason total $127.9 million | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

According to Tandler, the Redskins will go into the 2015 offseason with about 25 million in cap space. This is assuming that the Redskins will exercise the contract option on Kerrigan, among other things. Considering this is a contract year for Kerrigan, Hankerson, Helu, Polumbus, Compton, Forbath, and several other less-important players, 25 million is great. Certainly, Allen and Gruden will be able to resign any player they want to.

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[quote=SirLK26;1065470][url=http://realredskins.com/2014/03/26/redskins-contracts-this-offseason-total-127-9-million/]Redskins’ contracts this offseason total $127.9 million | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

According to Tandler, the Redskins will go into the 2015 offseason with about 25 million in cap space. This is assuming that the Redskins will exercise the contract option on Kerrigan, among other things. Considering this is a contract year for Kerrigan, Hankerson, Helu, Polumbus, Compton, Forbath, and several other less-important players, 25 million is great. Certainly, Allen and Gruden will be able to resign any player they want to.[/quote]

RGIII's contract will take a big chunk out of that

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1065473]RGIII's contract will take a big chunk out of that[/quote]

You think they'll extend him next offseason?

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[quote=SirLK26;1065475]You think they'll extend him next offseason?[/quote]

he signed a 4 year contract

[url=http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/quarterback-robert-griffin-iii-signs-four-year-21-million-contract-with-redskins/2012/07/18/gJQA3DbLtW_blog.html]Quarterback Robert Griffin III signs four-year, $21 million contract with Redskins - The Washington Post[/url]

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[quote=SirLK26;1065475]You think they'll extend him next offseason?[/quote]

If RGIII has a dynamite year, then I would extend him next year for sure. It'd likely be the cheaper option.

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[quote=Lotus;1065479]If RGIII has a dynamite year, then I would extend him next year for sure. It'd likely be the cheaper option.[/quote]

Well, if I'm correct, they would have to exercise the 5th year option next offseason. Then, in 2015, they would have another year under the rookie contract. In 2016, RG3's 5th year option salary would be the average of the top 10 in QB contracts. I think that's what I would do with RG3. That way, if he plays poorly in 2015, you're not stuck with a huge undeserved contract; and if he plays well, then his 2016 salary will be about right. But if he starts all 16 games this year, and, like you said, has a great season, then you think about extending him longterm. I just don't want to be too hasty in signing him longterm and being screwed by a huge QB contract that he'll never play up to.

But obviously, Gruden and Allen will be far better at deciding what to do with RG3 than me. If Gruden thinks RG3 is the real deal and can be a reliable franchise QB, I would think a longterm deal will be done next year.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1065478]he signed a 4 year contract

[URL="http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/quarterback-robert-griffin-iii-signs-four-year-21-million-contract-with-redskins/2012/07/18/gJQA3DbLtW_blog.html"]Quarterback Robert Griffin III signs four-year, $21 million contract with Redskins - The Washington Post[/URL][/quote]

Boo. Knowledge fail.

It has a team option for a 5th year. I would expect them to negotiate with him after year 4. If the negotiations don't go well they'd exercise the 5th year option to keep him around one more year and buy time for more negotiations.

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[quote=Schneed10;1065531]Boo. Knowledge fail.

It has a team option for a 5th year. I would expect them to negotiate with him after year 4. If the negotiations don't go well they'd exercise the 5th year option to keep him around one more year and buy time for more negotiations.[/quote]

What is this mean then?

Under the NFL’s rookie pay system, the Redskins would have to exercise their option for a fifth year of the deal following Griffin’s third season. Because he was a top 10 draft pick, Griffin’s fifth-season salary would equal the average salary of the 10 highest-paid NFL quarterbacks

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1065533]What is this mean then?

Under the NFL’s rookie pay system, the Redskins would have to exercise their option for a fifth year of the deal following Griffin’s third season. Because he was a top 10 draft pick, Griffin’s fifth-season salary would equal the average salary of the 10 highest-paid NFL quarterbacks[/quote]

It means after this year they have to decide whether to exercise the option, at which time they'd have him for two more seasons. They'll probably exercise the option and then take the time to negotiate a longer extension.

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Good call. I forgot about the year 5 option. I retract my previous comment.

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But of course with a salary that equals the average of the top 10 QBs in the NFL, the Skins might decide it's in their best interests to just lock him up before they get to the point where they have to pay him that salary. Avg of the top 10 will be a very high one year deal. It's almost the equivalent of franchising him.

If I were them I would definitely want to see how he performs with Gruden this year in a potential bounce-back year. If all goes well then maybe I start up negotiations, and activate that 5th year option if the negotiations don't go quickly.

If all doesn't go well then I've got some weird decisions facing me, but cross that bridge when you get to it.

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I cannot post new threads due to my account status. Apparently I cant even post links.

But the appeals court has reinstated the collusion case of the cap penalty. You can find the article on pro football talk among other places.

If someone with a little more *standing* on the forum wants to start a thread or grab the link :)

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So, I am hoping that one of our cap guru's can help out here. According to overthecap.com, we are already in the hole. I know that can't be right, but they haven't updated in a while.

BUT with Hall's 2million going on IR, and Ihenacho at about 570 (though he wasn't on our active roster for the first game, so maybe his number doesn't count?). Are we going to have to renegotiate either Garcon, or Williams. And is there a better one to do at this point?

Seems like we are absolutely capped out right now?

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Anyone gotten a chance to look at what our numbers could be looking like next year? I know there are some potential cuts like Chester, Bowen, Porter and new deals like Kerrigan, but I know we've got some really smart cap people here and sadly we've been looking at next season for the past couple weeks now.

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The NFL has stated that next year's cap will be about $140M. The NFL Player's union thinks it will be higher, but let's go with the $140M for now.

Cap: $140M
2015 Redskins Cap Total: $123.7M
Current Room: $16.7M

Expected Cuts (what [B]I'd[/B] expect to happen):
Bowen $5.5M
Chester $4.0M
Porter $2.8M
Paulsen $1.8M
4 Players Replacing at Min Salary: ($2.0M)
Total Cut Impact: $12.1M

Expected room after cuts: $28.8M, and that's probably conservative.

Plenty of room to fill holes, but amazingly probably not enough to fill ALL the holes. We just have so many, sadly.

Still, you can create more space by extending Trent Williams who is going into the final year of his contract in 2015. Could do something with Garcon, too.

I just don't want to see a bunch of junk investments. $4M for Lauvao and crap like that doesn't do it for me. Have to pay for safeties.

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[quote=Schneed10;1100408]The NFL has stated that next year's cap will be about $140M. The NFL Player's union thinks it will be higher, but let's go with the $140M for now.

Cap: $140M
2015 Redskins Cap Total: $123.7M
Current Room: $16.7M

Expected Cuts (what [B]I'd[/B] expect to happen):
Bowen $5.5M
Chester $4.0M
Porter $2.8M
Paulsen $1.8M
4 Players Replacing at Min Salary: ($2.0M)
Total Cut Impact: $12.1M

Expected room after cuts: $28.8M, and that's probably conservative.

Plenty of room to fill holes, but amazingly probably not enough to fill ALL the holes. We just have so many, sadly.

Still, you can create more space by extending Trent Williams who is going into the final year of his contract in 2015. Could do something with Garcon, too.

I just don't want to see a bunch of junk investments. $4M for Lauvao and crap like that doesn't do it for me. Have to pay for safeties.[/quote]

Agreed and thanks.

While I hope we smartly invest in proper scouting to build the team through the draft, like you said we have so many holes that free agency will have to factor in pretty heavily. What type of contract do you think we offer Kerrigan and was your space also taking into account Orakpo's contract coming off the books?

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;1100500]Agreed and thanks.

While I hope we smartly invest in proper scouting to build the team through the draft, like you said we have so many holes that free agency will have to factor in pretty heavily. What type of contract do you think we offer Kerrigan and was your space also taking into account Orakpo's contract coming off the books?[/quote]

For Kerrigan, my numbers above assume he plays on the one year option they signed him for, at the salary of $7.0M per his rookie contract.

I think they offer him a long term deal in the offseason that keeps the cap hit at that level or slightly lower in 2015. He'll get good guaranteed money.

My numbers assume Orakpo's gone. I don't think they'll try to sign him for much more than a couple mill per year. Way too much risk.

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[quote=Schneed10;1100408]The NFL has stated that next year's cap will be about $140M. The NFL Player's union thinks it will be higher, but let's go with the $140M for now.

Cap: $140M
2015 Redskins Cap Total: $123.7M
Current Room: $16.7M

Expected Cuts (what [B]I'd[/B] expect to happen):
Bowen $5.5M
Chester $4.0M
Porter $2.8M
Paulsen $1.8M
4 Players Replacing at Min Salary: ($2.0M)
Total Cut Impact: $12.1M

Expected room after cuts: $28.8M, and that's probably conservative.

Plenty of room to fill holes, but amazingly probably not enough to fill ALL the holes. We just have so many, sadly.

Still, you can create more space by extending Trent Williams who is going into the final year of his contract in 2015. Could do something with Garcon, too.

I just don't want to see a bunch of junk investments. $4M for Lauvao and crap like that doesn't do it for me. Have to pay for safeties.[/quote]

according to this link your net savings are a little off..... but I agreed with the strategy

[url=http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/washington-redskins/]Washington Redskins Salary Cap - Over the Cap[/url]

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Yeah no more Andre Roberts and Shawn Lauvao.

Sign a CB (Byron Maxwell?) please.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1101049]according to this link your net savings are a little off..... but I agreed with the strategy

[url=http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/washington-redskins/]Washington Redskins Salary Cap - Over the Cap[/url][/quote]

Were you mistakenly looking at the 2014 figures?

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new cap sheets now up

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm[/url]