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MTK 03-06-2014 01:46 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
F Champ.

Paintrain 03-06-2014 01:53 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1061801]I think at least 7 new starters. Maybe 8 depending on what the hell we do with the Oline and if we promote from within (Gettis, City of, McRib). Also think we could add a second TE who would be like a new starter the way Gruden uses 2 TE sets.[/quote]

I'll be a little surprised if we spend money on an interior lineman. Probably promote from within/address in the draft. Maybe something like move Lichtenstieger to C, plug in LeRib at one guard and competition between Gettis and a draft pick for the other starting spot.

NYCskinfan82 03-06-2014 02:02 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=Mattyk;1061804]F Champ.[/quote]

Took the words out of my mouth.

diehardskin2982 03-06-2014 02:10 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=Paintrain;1061805]I'll be a little surprised if we spend money on an interior lineman. Probably promote from within/address in the draft. Maybe something like move Lichtenstieger to C, plug in LeRib at one guard and competition between Gettis and a draft pick for the other starting spot.[/quote]


I think we should sign Schwartz at right guard then let LeRib and Gettis compete for LG. move lichtenstieger to C.

That Guy 03-06-2014 02:21 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
champ and danny don't like each other, not happening.

Paintrain 03-06-2014 02:24 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;1061808]I think we should sign Schwartz at right guard then let LeRib and Gettis compete for LG. move lichtenstieger to C.[/quote]

Not opposed to that, I think there are more pressing needs at WR and RT that our dollars are better allocated towards however. G can be a draft pick in the 2nd or 3rd round and be much cheaper than spending big $ on one in FA.

SmootSmack 03-06-2014 02:40 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
Schwartz is interning in DC for ESPN980 so a lot of people naturally believe he will be joining the Redskins. I wouldn't make that connection necessarily

Lotus 03-06-2014 03:32 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;1061791]A lot more DE.[/quote]

Thanks SS! It's about time. Although Cofield has been fairly successful at NT, I've always thought that he would be better at end.

Irrefutable 03-06-2014 03:41 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;1061808]I think we should sign Schwartz at right guard then let LeRib and Gettis compete for LG. move lichtenstieger to C.[/quote]

Is there any good reason to think LeRebeus, or Gettis is ready to start ? neither one has ever started a game (per NFL.com)

KI Skins Fan 03-06-2014 05:54 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
With the Skins looking for a NT/DT type, three FA's come to mind:

Linval Joseph, 6-4 323
Red Bryant, 6-4 323
Terrance Cody, 6-4 340

Anyone heard any rumors or have any thoughts on any of these three or other possible Redskins targets?

It looks like the Skins are planning to beef up the D-Line by moving Coefield and Baker to DE and bringing in a big NT. I'd like to see them play a little 4-3, too, with Orakpo and Kerrigan at the DE positions.

NYCskinfan82 03-06-2014 06:18 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1061833]With the Skins looking for a NT/DT type, three FA's come to mind:

Linval Joseph, 6-4 323
Red Bryant, 6-4 323
Terrance Cody, 6-4 340

Anyone heard any rumors or have any thoughts on any of these three or other possible Redskins targets?

It looks like the Skins are planning to beef up the D-Line by moving Coefield and Baker to DE and bringing in a big NT. I'd like to see them play a little 4-3, too, with Orakpo and Kerrigan at the DE positions.[/quote]

I'd like to see

Linval J.
Mount Cody
Arthur Jones

I think we could get at least two of them.

Jayroc24 03-06-2014 07:40 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;1061771]We are going to be aggressive in getting a FS, not sure we'll be successful though. That and a DT.[/quote]

Smoot, I am hopeful we obtain a RT in FA, have you heard anything?

Irrefutable 03-06-2014 09:32 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=NYCskinfan82;1061837]I'd like to see

Linval J.
Mount Cody
Arthur Jones

I think we could get at least two of them.[/quote]

I doubt they can afford 2 of the 3. Cody has been a major bust... no thanks. Jones or Joseph would be nice additions at the right price

SmootSmack 03-06-2014 10:21 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=Jayroc24;1061838]Smoot, I am hopeful we obtain a RT in FA, have you heard anything?[/quote]

I don't believe it's a high priority

KI Skins Fan 03-06-2014 10:34 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1061840]I doubt they can afford 2 of the 3. Cody has been a major bust... no thanks. Jones or Joseph would be nice additions at the right price[/quote]

Red Bryant may be the best bargain of the four DT's mentioned.

Lotus 03-06-2014 10:55 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
Sacks by our defensive linemen last year:
Cofield 2.5
Jarvis Jenkins 2.0
Baker 1.0

Ergo, total by entire defensive line: 5.5 sacks

Because of this, I think pushing Cofield to the wing and putting someone like Joseph in the middle is a great idea. We need more pressure from the front 3.

SFREDSKIN 03-06-2014 11:22 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
I agree and wouldn't sign any of them.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000331215/article/eric-decker-darren-mcfadden-head-riskiest-free-agents-of-2014]Eric Decker, Darren McFadden head riskiest free agents of 2014 - NFL.com[/url]

KI Skins Fan 03-07-2014 09:06 AM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=Lotus;1061847]Sacks by our defensive linemen last year:
Cofield 2.5
Jarvis Jenkins 2.0
Baker 1.0

Ergo, total by entire defensive line: 5.5 sacks

Because of this, I think pushing Cofield to the wing and putting someone like Joseph in the middle is a great idea. We need more pressure from the front 3.[/quote]

That's right. With more inside pressure we'll get more sacks and hurries from Orakpo and Kerrigan, more turnovers, more help for the secondary, etc. Football is a team game.

Hopefully, Coefield and Baker will lose a little weight to improve their quickness now that they both will be moved to DE.

Chico23231 03-07-2014 09:51 AM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;1061842]I don't believe it's a high priority[/quote]

this really sux to hear. I guess we need to keep Kurt Cousin around, might get some playing time again

MTK 03-07-2014 11:36 AM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1061886]this really sux to hear. I guess we need to keep Kurt Cousin around, might get some playing time again[/quote]

Paging Mr. Compton to please step the F up.

Chico23231 03-07-2014 11:46 AM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
Is Compton going to be fat enough for Gruden to play along the Oline? Paging Dr.McRibus for Compton's fat training.

skinsfan69 03-07-2014 12:08 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=NYCskinfan82;1061807]Took the words out of my mouth.[/quote]

Why all the hate of Champ? I don't want him coming here, he's done. Seems like a good dude that got tired of the dysfunction here.

NYCskinfan82 03-07-2014 12:23 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1061889]Why all the hate of Champ? I don't want him coming here, he's done. Seems like a good dude that got tired of the dysfunction here.[/quote]

I've been tired of the dysfunction on this team, and I'm still not leaving.

MTK 03-07-2014 12:30 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
Champ had baby mamma issues, that was the dysfunction that caused him to leave.

Alvin Walton 03-07-2014 01:07 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1061886]this really sux to hear. I guess we need to keep Kurt Cousin around, might get some playing time again[/quote]

Meh....I don't know about that.
I've seen it mentioned many times by different sports pundits that all but Trent Williams will be replaced.
Plus we have the draft.

Chico23231 03-07-2014 01:36 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/06/broncos-wont-make-tender-offer-to-trindon-holliday/]Broncos won’t make tender offer to Trindon Holliday | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Can we please get Trindon Holliday?

SmootSmack 03-07-2014 01:42 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1061889]Why all the hate of Champ? I don't want him coming here, he's done. Seems like a good dude that got tired of the dysfunction here.[/quote]

Yeah his problems were much bigger than any dysfunction that was in the organization

diehardskin2982 03-07-2014 03:01 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1061895][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/06/broncos-wont-make-tender-offer-to-trindon-holliday/]Broncos won’t make tender offer to Trindon Holliday | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Can we please get Trindon Holliday?[/quote]

I think they will match what ever offer is given to him.

Alvin Walton 03-07-2014 03:25 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;1061899]I think they will match what ever offer is given to him.[/quote]

My cat probably weighs more than him but he sure has some wheels.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsMEENp3b3M[/ame]

MTK 03-07-2014 03:58 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1061894]Meh....I don't know about that.
I've seen it mentioned many times by different sports pundits that all but Trent Williams will be replaced.
Plus we have the draft.[/quote]

Revamping the entire line minus one guy is pretty tough. I think we might have 1-2 new starters max.

CRedskinsRule 03-07-2014 09:55 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
Top 16 teams by Cap Space, heading into Tuesday's FA. Info from Overthecap.com

Team Cap Space
Raiders $64,329,470
Jaguars $57,296,848
Browns $49,848,350
Vikings $41,796,093
Colts $38,060,024
Packers $35,047,930
Dolphins $34,536,273
Bengals $27,556,957
Broncos $25,492,429
Ravens $24,929,100
Eagles $24,036,737
Bills $23,109,638
Jets $22,863,558
[B]Redskins $22,484,568 [/B]
Bucs $18,641,539
Falcons $18,583,399

CRedskinsRule 03-07-2014 09:58 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
Bottom 16 teams by Cap Space, heading into Tuesday's FA. Info from Overthecap.com

Team Cap Space

Giants $18,127,183
Cardinals $17,800,087
Seahawks $14,275,531
Patriots $12,703,254
Lions $11,395,130
Titans $10,601,952
49ers $10,023,776
Chiefs $9,942,444
Texans $8,996,127
Bears $8,949,726
Panthers $7,108,214
Rams $6,942,233
Chargers $5,770,080
Saints $2,658,240
Cowboys $1,110,057
Steelers ($372,066)

CRedskinsRule 03-07-2014 10:08 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
Average cap space = $21,082,653, so the Skins are smack dab in the middle. (if you take out the top and bottom 2 just because, then it drops to $19,724,306. )

I don't know that that means anything at all, other than a "good" FO ought to be able to work with the space we have. Since I think we have a good one now, I am hoping that we see some positive and sensible moves from the Skins in the next few days.

I can't imagine how busy all the FO's are right now, well except for Dallas LOL

Chief X_Phackter 03-07-2014 10:08 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1061895][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/06/broncos-wont-make-tender-offer-to-trindon-holliday/"]Broncos won’t make tender offer to Trindon Holliday | ProFootballTalk[/URL]

Can we please get Trindon Holliday?[/quote]

No thanks. He is too much of a liability back there. Why do you think it was Eric Decker back there towards the end of the season. They didn't trust him. The last thing we need is to give the opponent a short field.

chrisl13 03-07-2014 10:34 PM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1061952]No thanks. He is too much of a liability back there. Why do you think it was Eric Decker back there towards the end of the season. They didn't trust him. The last thing we need is to give the opponent a short field.[/quote]

Yeah his fumbling was a huge issue as well. He's like another Brandon Banks to me.

GTripp0012 03-08-2014 01:35 AM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1061795]You are gonna have to pay people, especially someone who you would consider a cornerstone in your defense. No one is saying pay him 100million, but you would have a hard time convincing me why the top safety in the game isn't worth 40-45 million over 5 years at 27 years of age. People didnt wanna pay Garcon 42 million. Just baffles me, so if Byrd and Weddle arent worth 40 million each, what are they worth?[/quote]I don't think 5/$45 for Byrd is too much. I think it's right around what he's worth.

But if you sign him for that price...then what? Keep going until all the holes are filled and all the cap dollars are used, or still play it close to the vest after adding a talented player like Byrd who is already in his prime years?

You could go either way, I suppose, but there's a difference between signing Jairus Byrd just so you'll have Jairus Byrd and signing him in an effort to put a much better defense on the field.

Basically, do you grab Byrd, Spikes, and Linval Joseph (overpaying all three if necessary), or is Byrd the end game?

KI Skins Fan 03-08-2014 08:53 AM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1061951]Average cap space = $21,082,653, so the Skins are smack dab in the middle. (if you take out the top and bottom 2 just because, then it drops to $19,724,306. )

[B]I don't know that that means anything at all, other than a "good" FO ought to be able to work with the space we have. [/B] Since I think we have a good one now, I am hoping that we see some positive and sensible moves from the Skins in the next few days.

I can't imagine how busy all the FO's are right now, well except for Dallas LOL[/quote]

Teams have so much room to spend this year that I think FA will be one helluva free-for-all, right from the start. The Skins had better get on the players they want right away and have Plans B,C, and D in place, as well.

KI Skins Fan 03-08-2014 09:00 AM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;1061956]I don't think 5/$45 for Byrd is too much. I think it's right around what he's worth.[/quote]

Last year, TB signed Dashon Goldson to a 5 year/$41.25MM contract with $18MM guaranteed. I think it's reasonable to expect Byrd's contract to exceed Goldson's.

artmonkforhallofamein07 03-08-2014 09:11 AM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
Well since Byrd alone can't turn the defense around, then if you do sign him there is no way we can stop there. But overpaying 3 players is crazy Vinny stuff of course he would just stop with Byrd.

I would look at a cheaper option at FS and focus resources on the entire team not one position.

KI Skins Fan 03-08-2014 09:27 AM

Re: Free Agency Begins in a Week, Whats the Plan?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1061948]Top 16 teams by Cap Space, heading into Tuesday's FA. Info from Overthecap.com

Team Cap Space
Raiders $64,329,470
Jaguars $57,296,848
Browns $49,848,350
Vikings $41,796,093
Colts $38,060,024
Packers $35,047,930
Dolphins $34,536,273
Bengals $27,556,957
Broncos $25,492,429
Ravens $24,929,100
Eagles $24,036,737
Bills $23,109,638
Jets $22,863,558
[B]Redskins $22,484,568 [/B]
Bucs $18,641,539
Falcons $18,583,399[/quote]

I love Free Agency! The more teams with money to spend, the better the show.

Heaven help any team that gets into a bidding war with the Raiders, Jaguars, or Browns! What if the three of them get into a bidding war amongst themselves over a player?

Does anyone know if the Raiders have said they'd be active in FA? I'm wondering if the financial health of the franchise will hold them back. If they don't spend big, it will drive Raider Nation (more) crazy!

Watch out for the Jags! They have an extremely wealthy owner who will spend and he wants to someday move his team to London. He's got big plans for his franchise.

The city of Cleveland and the Browns organization are both horrible in so many ways. Nevertheless, they have plenty of cap room and they will spend.

Indy is also a real threat in FA. Irsay has a lot of cap space and he will spend. Indy has a lot to sell in regard to the team on the field. They are an improving young team and Andrew Luck will be around for many years to lead them.

Let the games begin!


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