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[QUOTE=Fiversons;1086747]I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this... Is it acceptable to do both?[/QUOTE]


The fan comment was obviously directed at the amount of Blue jerseys there yesterday. That is just disgusting. Yes i would say it is acceptable to laugh and cry. Lol

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This game was a real low point, no doubt. But there's a lot of the season left, and we will see what these guys (including our coaches) are made of.

There are, as we will all recall, some losses that are seared into your memory. For me, the body bag game in Philly was one, the playoff loss to Seattle (when I was yelling "He's hurt -- pull him you f_ing idiot!" in front of my young children), the merciless beat-down from the Patriots a number of years ago, the whole Babe Laufenberg thing, the loss to the Giants in the 1986 playoffs, the torching by the Raiders in the Superbowl -- those all stand out as particularly painful. Last night was probably not quite on par with those, but it wasn't far off either. After seeing such promise by the D and O in prior weeks (albeit with not much to show for it), the complete meltdown from last night was very frustrating.

But it's time to man up and get ready for Seattle. No time to for the team to whine about what happened last night -- they cannot change it.

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[QUOTE=calia;1086752]This game was a real low point, no doubt. But there's a lot of the season left, and we will see what these guys (including our coaches) are made of.



There are, as we will all recall, some losses that are seared into your memory. For me, the body bag game in Philly was one, the playoff loss to Seattle (when I was yelling "He's hurt -- pull him you f_ing idiot!" in front of my young children), the merciless beat-down from the Patriots a number of years ago, the whole Babe Laufenberg thing, the loss to the Giants in the 1986 playoffs, the torching by the Raiders in the Superbowl -- those all stand out as particularly painful. Last night was probably not quite on par with those, but it wasn't far off either. After seeing such promise by the D and O in prior weeks (albeit with not much to show for it), the complete meltdown from last night was very frustrating.



But it's time to man up and get ready for Seattle. No time to for the team to whine about what happened last night -- they cannot change it.[/QUOTE]


Yeah but you cannot compare a superbowl loss or anything that happened in the 80's to this. Every great team loses during the course of time. They lose bad sometimes even. Like Smoot said this current regime, DS on down - is built on excuses, and to be even remotely ok with it is almost worse (as a fan) than to not be ok with it. They can get ready for Seattle - ready to get their asses kicked real bad.

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I think this lose was almost as bad as Monday night against the Eagles, and no not last year... The year Dukes lost it with LaVar yeaing in the background... Either or, have to be the worst 2 in recent memory... It took a while to recover mentally from that beatdown... I think the true test of Jay and this team will be how they play the champs on the big stage in 10 days...

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:grouphug: This little light of mine..:grouphug: Im going to let...

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[QUOTE=calia;1086752]This game was a real low point, no doubt. But there's a lot of the season left, and we will see what these guys (including our coaches) are made of.



There are, as we will all recall, some losses that are seared into your memory. For me, the body bag game in Philly was one, the playoff loss to Seattle (when I was yelling "He's hurt -- pull him you f_ing idiot!" in front of my young children), the merciless beat-down from the Patriots a number of years ago, the whole Babe Laufenberg thing, the loss to the Giants in the 1986 playoffs, the torching by the Raiders in the Superbowl -- those all stand out as particularly painful. Last night was probably not quite on par with those, but it wasn't far off either. After seeing such promise by the D and O in prior weeks (albeit with not much to show for it), the complete meltdown from last night was very frustrating.



But it's time to man up and get ready for Seattle. No time to for the team to whine about what happened last night -- they cannot change it.[/QUOTE]


Ive been a fan for a long time and I remember the Babe being backup to Theisman but i dont remember "the whole babe thing"
What are you referring to?

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[QUOTE=Fiversons;1086735]I don't understand how the Redskins can be the most penalized team, in the span of what seems like 10 years and 4 different coaches and entire roster turnovers... Seriously, can someone explain to me how that is even possible? It defies the law of averages...[/QUOTE]


We draft the stupidest people we can possibly find

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[QUOTE=CrustyRedskin;1086758]:grouphug: This little light of mine..:grouphug: Im going to let...[/QUOTE]


Lololololo. Great.

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I, as many skins fans, simply want a winning team, and not merely for a 7 game stretch at the end of a season. I too was drinking the Kool-Aid when RGIII was drafted because the hype was so high, but I don't think we can make excuses for why he hasn't progressed the way he should have by now. Perhaps the reason why he ran the offense he did in college is because that is all he is capable of doing. He is limited because he just doesn't have the ability to do the tangibles that all the greats do. If you really look close, and forget the hype for a minute or two, it becomes quite clear that RGIII is another great example of an amazing college quarterback without the ability to truly transition into the NFL. Watch his feet in the pocket, and see how he misses his reads. I don't think he wants to have happy feet, it just comes second nature to him and it is his only way of protecting himself as a result of his inability to read defenses and get the ball out fast. His 1st year, in my opinion, was a fluke due to the offensive scheme being tailored around him and having the most underrated running back in the NFL in Alfred Morris tote the ball. Heck, Kirk came in and won a game on the road, true it was against Cleveland, but he did it. And we can't forget that he came in, under pressure, and finished the job against Baltimore. I am not saying Kirk is where he needs to be yet, but let's try to forget, for one second that he was just a 4th round pick and didn't win a Heisman, and take a look at the fundamentals he possesses. If we do that, I don't know how we can't come to the conclusion that Kirk has a much higher ceiling in this league. A running quarterback without the ability to stay healthy, as well as the inability to make the reads and get the ball out on time, lacking to maximize the players ability around him, is not going to make it in this league. I truly hope RGIII, if he gets the opportunity again, proves me wrong, but I just don't see it happening for the long term.










[quote=Hog1;1086632]Robert is fearless.....his body is not
see....latest lost season to injury.[/quote]

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[quote=gulliblefan;1086764]I, as many skins fans, simply want a winning team, and not merely for a 7 game stretch at the end of a season. I too was drinking the Kool-Aid when RGIII was drafted because the hype was so high, but I don't think we can make excuses for why he hasn't progressed the way he should have by now. Perhaps the reason why he ran the offense he did in college is because that is all he is capable of doing. He is limited because he just doesn't have the ability to do the tangibles that all the greats do. If you really look close, and forget the hype for a minute or two, it becomes quite clear that RGIII is another great example of an amazing college quarterback without the ability to truly transition into the NFL. Watch his feet in the pocket, and see how he misses his reads. I don't think he wants to have happy feet, it just comes second nature to him and it is his only way of protecting himself as a result of his inability to read defenses and get the ball out fast. His 1st year, in my opinion, was a fluke due to the offensive scheme being tailored around him and having the most underrated running back in the NFL in Alfred Morris tote the ball. Heck, Kirk came in and won a game on the road, true it was against Cleveland, but he did it. And we can't forget that he came in, under pressure, and finished the job against Baltimore. I am not saying Kirk is where he needs to be yet, but let's try to forget, for one second that he was just a 4th round pick and didn't win a Heisman, and take a look at the fundamentals he possesses. If we do that, I don't know how we can't come to the conclusion that Kirk has a much higher ceiling in this league. A running quarterback without the ability to stay healthy, as well as the inability to make the reads and get the ball out on time, lacking to maximize the players ability around him, is not going to make it in this league. I truly hope RGIII, if he gets the opportunity again, proves me wrong, but I just don't see it happening for the long term.[/quote]
I don't know if you are a troll or serious...
Is that you SBF?

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[quote=Meks;1086748]but of course. people think im crazy when i talk like this..
ppl say if u look hard enough for conspiracy ...you will find one..

bullshit. this is full blown truth and an absolute joke.
nfl is garbage, so is the commish and the refs.[/quote]

You know, you might be on to something. We would have lost no matter what, but these POS calls every week are just atrocious. The call on Murphy on the first drive. WTF was that? There was also a PI call on Breeland that also was just a POS. Is this what the league wants? It's every single week we're seeing this crap. These zebras are embarrassing themselves.

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[quote=Fiversons;1086731]I equate being a Redskin fan to being a battered wife... No matter the amount of abuse you take, you keep coming back... I deserve to feel this way, I keep coming back, no matter what...[/quote]

Man, equating being a Redskins fan with domestic abuse. That is, wow... and to do it right after the whole Ray Rice incident. Man... that takes, something... brains isn't the word

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Some of you guys in the DMV may be able to enlighten me on this but I think I heard Cooley through the static say that he felt the coaching staff did not properly prepare the team for a Thursday night game in the practices leading up. Any thoughts or insight into that?

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[quote=punch it in;1086586]So why are you a fan? Lol[/quote]

BA filled the void when we lost one of our most effective weapons from last year.

Nobody is lamenting Sav Rocca's release. Am I right!

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1086769]Some of you guys in the DMV may be able to enlighten me on this but I think I heard Cooley through the static say that he felt the coaching staff did not properly prepare the team for a Thursday night game in the practices leading up. Any thoughts or insight into that?[/quote]

Didn't Gruden say that in his post game interview?

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[quote=rbanerjee23;1086767]Man, equating being a Redskins fan with domestic abuse. That is, wow... and to do it right after the whole Ray Rice incident. Man... that takes, something... brains isn't the word[/quote]

But you still support and watch the NFL which has turned a blind eye to domestic assault for what, going on 100 years? And has only done anything about a few weeks ago due to public pressure? But yet my benign and meaningless internet comment was offensive to you? Something about glass houses and stones comes to mind...

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[quote=Fiversons;1086736]Why is that?[/quote]

If you really don't know that's part of the problem. Talk about tone deaf!

And ditto the delete here.

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[quote=punch it in;1086750]I guess if my mom or sister or daughter was a victim a spousal abuse my response to your post would have been "no its nothing effing like that at all. This is football. That is someones life. "
Again - no big deal.[/quote]

Actually, it was a pretty big deal.

To try to make any sort of connection/comparison between spousal abuse and a game (a game!) is just plain wrong. And the smug correction that ended with "better -- huh" doesn't fix it, not even close. Let's just drop this and move on...

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I can't agree enough. It is in every game, not just the skins games. And it is getting ridiculous. But are the referees being held accountable? We don't know as fans because this information is not being released. What happens to a referee for making a horrendous call, and perhaps a call that changes the course of a game? Is the only repercussion that he not get picked for the playoffs, because if so, that is simply not enough. A referee's poor call(s) can alter the flow and ultimately the direction of a game, and just as Roger Goodell is now on the hot seat to be more transparent, perhaps he should extend this to penalties on referees. If a player does something deemed illegal, he is fined and everyone knows all about it, but if a referee continuously blows calls, it is simply brushed off as no big deal and simply "human error". That is complete bs. And don't even get me started on the favoritism towards the offense vs. defense. What exactly is a defenseless receiver? Last time I checked the receivers are wearing the same gear as everyone else, yet a safety has to tread extremely lightly when trying to make a play in the secondary, as to not get a fine and suspension. It is turning into a joke.



[quote=skinsfan69;1086766]You know, you might be on to something. We would have lost no matter what, but these POS calls every week are just atrocious. The call on Murphy on the first drive. WTF was that? There was also a PI call on Breeland that also was just a POS. Is this what the league wants? It's every single week we're seeing this crap. These zebras are embarrassing themselves.[/quote]

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1086778]Actually, it was a pretty big deal.

To try to make any sort of connection/comparison between spousal abuse and a game (a game!) is just plain wrong. And the smug correction that ended with "better -- huh" doesn't fix it, not even close. Let's just drop this and move on...[/quote]

Then put your money where your mouth is and boycott the NFL, or don't respond to my horrific and insensitive posts... To call me out for whatever reason you think on a random internet website is beyond ridiculous...

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[quote=Fiversons;1086773]But you still support and watch the NFL which has turned a blind eye to domestic assault for what, going on 100 years? And has only done anything about a few weeks ago due to public pressure? But yet my benign and meaningless internet comment was offensive to you? Something about glass houses and stones comes to mind...[/quote]

Who said I was offended? It's funny when people say stupid things. That 'benign and meaningless' internet comment was a dumb thing to say. However, to say it now when people are particularly sensitive to this social ill. Something about thinking before speaking comes to mind.

Oh and I wonder if you see the irony in getting up in arms about internet comments where people supposedly get up in arms at your internet comments.

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Thread hijacker, what are your demands?

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Aiight kids settle down meow. Domestic violence isn't a joke, and I think we're all against it, yes? But we still watch the NFL, even though for the most part we can agree they've done a terrible job of pretending to care about it. Are we condoning DV when we watch NFL games and support our favorite teams? I don't think we are. So chill ya'll.

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[quote=mooby;1086789]Aiight kids settle down meow. Domestic violence isn't a joke, and I think we're all against it, yes? But we still watch the NFL, even though for the most part we can agree they've done a terrible job of pretending to care about it. Are we condoning DV when we watch NFL games and support our favorite teams? I don't think we are. So chill ya'll.[/quote]

But I must win!!! It's about time someone even marginally associated with the Redskins won something...

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1086770]BA filled the void when we lost one of our most effective weapons from last year.



Nobody is lamenting Sav Rocca's release. Am I right![/QUOTE]


You are! Na na na na hey hey hey...good
Wait no punter is a punter. Thanks though.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1086789]Aiight kids settle down meow. Domestic violence isn't a joke, and I think we're all against it, yes? But we still watch the NFL, even though for the most part we can agree they've done a terrible job of pretending to care about it. Are we condoning DV when we watch NFL games and support our favorite teams? I don't think we are. So chill ya'll.[/QUOTE]


Woah. Woah. Woah. Lol
If i knew a Skin was guilty of it i promise u id never watch again till he was gone. The original post was in bad taste. End of story.

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I swear its one bad thing after another this season...

[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/redskins-selling-expired-world-cup-budweiser-beers-at-fedex-field-161517369.html[/url]

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1086803]I swear its one bad thing after another this season...

[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/redskins-selling-expired-world-cup-budweiser-beers-at-fedex-field-161517369.html[/url][/quote]

This is dumb, 3 months old is expired? Please. Beer, even crappy watery pisswater wouldn't drink it if you paid me mass-produced beers like Budweiser, do not[I] expire[/I] until maybe after 2 years. Unless, of course, it gets warm and then chilled again. Which I admit, is almost guaranteed to be the case, but I would bet that no venue keeps their bottled beers chilled round the clock. Do you think they toss the extras at the end of an event? Why pay $12 (or whatever it is now) for crap beer anyways, real beer doesn't even cost that much. No one would ever tell the difference if there wasn't a FIFA World Cup logo on it.

Beer Snob Rant Over . . . Sorry for that.

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[quote=WillH;1086808]This is dumb, 3 months old is expired? Please. Beer, even crappy watery pisswater wouldn't drink it if you paid me mass-produced beers like Budweiser, do not[I] expire[/I] until maybe after 2 years.

Beer Snob Rant Over . . . Sorry for that.[/quote]


I don't drink Bud but it's shelf life is 90/120 days (I worked for them for 5 years )

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We might be overreacting these days. Were just a shitty team. We need to draft first round defense and rebuild. Period. We have our backup front and center. Lost our top cb for the season with the young guys still learning. Fuck the beer who cares.

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We might be overreacting these days. Were just a shitty team. We need to draft first round defense and rebuild. Period. We have our backup front and center. Lost our top cb for the season with the young guys still learning. Fuck the beer who cares.

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Why in the hell is Tyler Polumbus still in a Redskins uniform? After he gave up four sacks to Justin Tuck he should have been replaced because of that alone.....he was overwhelmed by the NYG left end. They need to cut him.....Morgan Moses could not have done a worse job of protection....they should have played Mosworse job.

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[quote=gulliblefan;1086764]I, as many skins fans, simply want a winning team, and not merely for a 7 game stretch at the end of a season. I too was drinking the Kool-Aid when RGIII was drafted because the hype was so high, but I don't think we can make excuses for why he hasn't progressed the way he should have by now. Perhaps the reason why he ran the offense he did in college is because that is all he is capable of doing. He is limited because he just doesn't have the ability to do the tangibles that all the greats do. If you really look close, and forget the hype for a minute or two, it becomes quite clear that RGIII is another great example of an amazing college quarterback without the ability to truly transition into the NFL. Watch his feet in the pocket, and see how he misses his reads. I don't think he wants to have happy feet, it just comes second nature to him and it is his only way of protecting himself as a result of his inability to read defenses and get the ball out fast. His 1st year, in my opinion, was a fluke due to the offensive scheme being tailored around him and having the most underrated running back in the NFL in Alfred Morris tote the ball. Heck, Kirk came in and won a game on the road, true it was against Cleveland, but he did it. And we can't forget that he came in, under pressure, and finished the job against Baltimore. I am not saying Kirk is where he needs to be yet, but let's try to forget, for one second that he was just a 4th round pick and didn't win a Heisman, and take a look at the fundamentals he possesses. If we do that, I don't know how we can't come to the conclusion that Kirk has a much higher ceiling in this league. A running quarterback without the ability to stay healthy, as well as the inability to make the reads and get the ball out on time, lacking to maximize the players ability around him, is not going to make it in this league. I truly hope RGIII, if he gets the opportunity again, proves me wrong, but I just don't see it happening for the long term.[/quote]
Seriously enough of the RG3 bashing, sorry that your bubble got burst and you saw the real Kirk Cousins 4 INTs and a strip sack fumble, so much for the 'pocket awareness'. Any real Redskin fan knows there is much more to be concerned about than Cousins vs. Griffin.

The sad part is that there are some decent pieces in place, but by the time the sorry no account defense is fixed those pieces will be beyond their foootball prime.

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[quote=Fiversons;1086780]Then put your money where your mouth is and boycott the NFL, or don't respond to my horrific and insensitive posts... To call me out for whatever reason you think on a random internet website is beyond ridiculous...[/quote]

This is not some random internet site, this is The Warpath, my online home for Redskins discussion for the past years. So don't be too surprised that folks get upset when you to spew your insensitive BS in our home. Perhaps it was just an unfortunate analogy in the first place, but your continued attempts to defend or explain the indefensible seems to show who you are...

I'm done with this nonsense, you should be too.

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[quote=Giantone;1086812]I don't drink Bud but it's shelf life is 90/120 days (I worked for them for 5 years )[/quote]

Since you worked for them, then you must know enough about beer to know that it doesn't go bad that fast, especially not the mild pilsner type that Bud makes. The Bud expiration date is and has been a marketing ruse to sell more beer.

If beer went bad that quickly, there'd be more beers with expiration dates, just like milk.

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[quote=WillH;1086808]This is dumb, 3 months old is expired? Please. Beer, even crappy watery pisswater wouldn't drink it if you paid me mass-produced beers like Budweiser, do not[I] expire[/I] until maybe after 2 years. [B]Unless, of course, it gets warm and then chilled again.[/B] Which I admit, is almost guaranteed to be the case, but I would bet that no venue keeps their bottled beers chilled round the clock. Do you think they toss the extras at the end of an event? Why pay $12 (or whatever it is now) for crap beer anyways, real beer doesn't even cost that much. No one would ever tell the difference if there wasn't a FIFA World Cup logo on it.

Beer Snob Rant Over . . . Sorry for that.[/quote]

I was reading a book about the history of beer written by a former brew master for whom I cannot remember. However in the book he adamantly claims the warming and chilling of beer is an "old beer drinkers tale" I still cannot bring myself to buy or drink beer that I know has been recooled though personally.

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[quote=Lotus;1086819]Since you worked for them, then you must know enough about beer to know that it doesn't go bad that fast, especially not the mild pilsner type that Bud makes. The Bud expiration date is and has been a marketing ruse to sell more beer.

If beer went bad that quickly, there'd be more beers with expiration dates, just like milk.[/quote]

Many of the craft brews sold in Maryland do either have a sell by or a bottled date. I would say the fundamental difference is that expired milk is a health issue and expired beer is not.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1086821]Many of the craft brews sold in Maryland do either have a sell by or a bottled date. I would say the fundamental difference is that expired milk is a health issue and expired beer is not.[/quote]

True. Many craft brews have flavors which may degrade over time, hence the "bottled" dates, which are not the same as "expiration" dates. Since Bud has no flavor to degrade to begin with, this is not an issue for it. Plus, Bud's 120 days is a ridiculously short period of time for beer. Beer has alcohol; it keeps.

But comparing Bud to craft beer is not fair. If we compare it to its peers like Miller, we see the others don't have expiration dates. Hence my comparison to milk, which as you state is not a safety issue with beer. But if beer really did go bad as Bud says, then its peer beers would also have expirations.

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Beer doesn't expire after 3 months. As others have said the "freshness date" thing is just a marketing ploy. It's more accurate to say it's best to drink it by the 3 month date, that's when it's most fresh is all. It's probably fine for another 3 months after the date before it starts to turn from shitty beer to even shittier beer.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1086820]I was reading a book about the history of beer written by a former brew master for whom I cannot remember. However in the book he adamantly claims the warming and chilling of beer is an "old beer drinkers tale" I still cannot bring myself to buy or drink beer that I know has been recooled though personally.[/quote]

Totally wives tale. Sunlight is the destroy of beer.