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So only the lowly equipment guys get punished? Thee guys lose their jobs, but Brady gets away with it.

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[quote=Hijinx;1118915]So only the lowly equipment guys get punished? Thee guys lose their jobs, but Brady gets away with it.[/quote]

They didn't get fired, only suspended.

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The inflation rule is stupid.
If a QB can score more points with an inflation preference then let him have it.
It makes a better game.
Each team is in charge of their own balls......
I'm glad Goodel and his arbitrary goon squad now look like twits.

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This has been one of the most overblown stories in recent sports history. The more you found out what the NFL actually investigated and did the more idiotic it actually was.

I still thought Brady should have been suspended for being uncooperative.

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[QUOTE=donofriose;1118920]This has been one of the most overblown stories in recent sports history. The more you found out what the NFL actually investigated and did the more idiotic it actually was.



I still thought Brady should have been suspended for being uncooperative.[/QUOTE]


If he was clean, why refuse to give phone?

Karma will get Brady.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1117963]Wilson is a joke and he's a mediocre qb that only wins because of his great defense and run game. Nobody wants to say it but I do he's an avg passer that can move around a little to make a play here and there. Tony romo would have a ring with that team.[/quote]


I have to give him credit, the others from the recent group of dual threat QBs (Newton, Kaepernick, RG3) would no longer even be considered average, if
you go on QB rating last year he is #10. He has improved all around while the others with his playing style have had their wings clipped.

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Looks like I can't watch ESPN for a couple days. The Patriots love fest is too much. The only thing EPN loves more than the Pats is the SEC.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1118917]The inflation rule is stupid.
If a QB can score more points with an inflation preference then let him have it.
It makes a better game.
[B]Each team is in charge of their own balls[/B]......
I'm glad Goodel and his arbitrary goon squad now look like twits.[/quote]

Yah, I dont get that either. Let every team use...Whatever inflation they like. WHO can it harm besides themselves?
Each team has the same opportunity
Takes away the BS security issues of safeguarding the balls and the expense associated with it.......

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[quote=Hog1;1118927]Yah, I dont get that either. Let every team use...Whatever inflation they like. WHO can it harm besides themselves?
Each team has the same opportunity
Takes away the BS security issues of safeguarding the balls and the expense associated with it.......[/quote]

thats where a lot of people see it going but a range still needs to be set.

otherwise the pats would have a psi of 2 for running plays and psi of 10 or whatever brady likes for throwing.

i would say a range of 10 to 14. instead of what is it now? 11 to 13?

the pats fumbling stat cant be ignored. even if your Qb likes over inflated balls (rodgers), under inflated balls are harder to fumble.

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[quote=over the mountain;1118930]thats where a lot of people see it going but a range still needs to be set.

[B]otherwise the pats would have a psi of 2 for running plays and psi of 10 or whatever brady likes for throwing.
[/B]
i would say a range of 10 to 14. instead of what is it now? 11 to 13?

the pats fumbling stat cant be ignored. even if your Qb likes over inflated balls (rodgers), under inflated balls are harder to fumble.[/quote]

In all honesty OTM, why would we care? Each team would have the same opportunity to create whatever advantage they can from ball pressure.
I know it seems weird, but it would be fair to all......and simple (imagine that)

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Iain MacIntyre ‏@imacvansun 43m
So, in Deflategate, attorneys make millions, the famous go free and a poor equipment guy is out of a job. See, the system works.

Pretty much sums it up.

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[quote=Skinzman;1118963]Iain MacIntyre ‏@imacvansun 43m
So, in Deflategate, attorneys make millions, the famous go free and a poor equipment guy is out of a job. See, the system works.

Pretty much sums it up.[/quote]

My attorney told me once upon a time,
"Generally, the only people that....pay are those that cannot afford to"

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[quote=kingj;1118921]If he was clean, why refuse to give phone?[/quote]

[url=http://www.boston.com/sports/2015/08/11/morning-sports-update-ben-affleck-nanny-wore-tom-brady-super-bowl-rings-private-jet-pablo-sandoval-doesn-trust-the-media/hJleLILBv4ZaNIXcWcUTkO/story.html]Morning Sports Update: Ben Affleck’s nanny wore Tom Brady’s Super Bowl rings on private jet; Pablo Sandoval doesn’t trust the media - Sports - Boston.com[/url]

I have no idea. Why wouldn't he just turn it over, and then everybody could have a look see what's on there.

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^^^^^^

I'm 100% sure he destroys his phone every three months.

Guaranteed.

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Our old friend Richard Crawford (Chargers) just made a nice INT for a touchdown vs the 49ers.

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Redskins related, but is the ticket office really charging $50 for will call on tickets for non-season ticket holders? :doh:


[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2560864-redskins-charge-non-season-ticket-holders-50-envelope-fee-to-use-will-call?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-league]Redskins Charge Non-Season Ticket Holders $50 Envelope Fee to Use Will Call | Bleacher Report[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;1119012]Redskins related, but is the ticket office really charging $50 for will call on tickets for non-season ticket holders? :doh:


[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2560864-redskins-charge-non-season-ticket-holders-50-envelope-fee-to-use-will-call?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-league]Redskins Charge Non-Season Ticket Holders $50 Envelope Fee to Use Will Call | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

judging from the stadium shots, i don't think they'd get too much out of it.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1119012]Redskins related, but is the ticket office really charging $50 for will call on tickets for non-season ticket holders? :doh:


[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2560864-redskins-charge-non-season-ticket-holders-50-envelope-fee-to-use-will-call?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-league]Redskins Charge Non-Season Ticket Holders $50 Envelope Fee to Use Will Call | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

Gotta be some sort of strategy for this

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[quote=Chico23231;1119023]Gotta be some sort of strategy for this[/quote]

Maybe Tony can shed some light here.

[url=http://deadspin.com/skins-ban-non-season-ticket-holders-from-using-will-cal-1728643971?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow]Skins Ban Non-Season Ticket Holders From Using Will Call[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;1119024]Maybe Tony can shed some light here.

[url=http://deadspin.com/skins-ban-non-season-ticket-holders-from-using-will-cal-1728643971?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow]Skins Ban Non-Season Ticket Holders From Using Will Call[/url][/quote]

so it seems petty, but were they trying to stop season ticket holders from selling the tickets to another party or making it more difficult? If your a season ticket holder and then advertise to sell your ticket. Then call will call and say hey so and so are gonna pick up the tickets. Is that the strategy?

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[quote=Chico23231;1119025]so it seems petty, but were they trying to stop season ticket holders from selling the tickets to another party or making it more difficult? If your a season ticket holder and then advertise to sell your ticket. Then call will call and say hey so and so are gonna pick up the tickets. Is that the strategy?[/quote]

It's their strategy to get people to become season ticket holders. They are alienating the non-season ticket holders by refusing this service to them. It's just another notch on the long list of things of "bad ideas" from the Redskins.


I found this comment hilarious.
[I]
"I have come to the conclusion that RG3's intern is running the Skins PR department."[/I]

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Sigh. Does ANYONE have a few billion to spare to buy this team?

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[quote=calia;1119041]Sigh. Does ANYONE have a few billion to spare to buy this team?[/quote]

Maybe we can appeal to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation . . . they're do-gooders, they may take pity on us.

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Released quarterbacks:

Ryan Lindley
Josh Freeman
TJ Yates
Matt Flynn

and........Tim Tebow

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1119171]Released quarterbacks:

Ryan Lindley
Josh Freeman
TJ Yates
Matt Flynn

and........Tim Tebow[/quote]

Sure looks like the end of the road for Tebow. Although i wonder if maybe the eagles bring him back somehow at a reduced price??

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1119171]Released quarterbacks:

Ryan Lindley
Josh Freeman
TJ Yates
Matt Flynn

[B]and........Tim Tebow[/B][/quote]

Another non-story that blew up on Twitter (like the RG3 one).

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Would any of you Warpathers want any of those guys if Griffin gets cut?

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1119177]Would any of you Warpathers want any of those guys if Griffin gets cut?[/quote]

Nope.

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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1119177]Would any of you Warpathers want any of those guys if Griffin gets cut?[/QUOTE]
I wanted Matt Flynn so bad after his first green bay stop, now after 6 teams ... not so much

Sent from my S6 Edge

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[quote=NC_Skins;1119024]Maybe Tony can shed some light here.

[url=http://deadspin.com/skins-ban-non-season-ticket-holders-from-using-will-cal-1728643971?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow]Skins Ban Non-Season Ticket Holders From Using Will Call[/url][/quote]


I thought teams wanted fans to come to the cames not help them choose not too?

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[url=http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart]From Spygate to Deflategate: Inside what split the NFL and New England Patriots apart[/url]

Yeah...fuck Goodell for how he handle Spygate.


Also, fuck the Patriots and their cheating asses. They should have been hammered. If Sean Payton got a year suspension, BB should have received more than that.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1119432][url=http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart]From Spygate to Deflategate: Inside what split the NFL and New England Patriots apart[/url]

Yeah...fuck Goodell for how he handle Spygate.


Also, fuck the Patriots and their cheating asses. They should have been hammered. If Sean Payton got a year suspension, BB should have received more than that.[/quote]

That was a novel, but an interesting read nonetheless. It simply confirms what most of us already knew.

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im so sick of this crap...can we just move on already? media loves to fan this bullshit, im just ready for some football and just quit with this patriots drama.

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[quote=Chico23231;1119459]im so sick of this crap...can we just move on already? media loves to fan this bullshit, im just ready for some football and just quit with this patriots drama.[/quote]

Hey, atleast it takes the focus of the Redskins drama..

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[quote=Chico23231;1119459]im so sick of this crap...can we just move on already? media loves to fan this bullshit, im just ready for some football and just quit with this patriots drama.[/quote]

I think it is much ado about nothing. Pretty sure there has been many a football
played with in the NFL outside of the limits. Teams have tried to spy on each other in the NFL since 1920. Kind of like when colleges get caught gifting things to players and doctoring grades, everyone freaks out and is shocked. News flash, they all do it, some are just better at hiding it.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1119462]I think it is much ado about nothing. Pretty sure there has been many a football
played with in the NFL outside of the limits. Teams have tried to spy on each other in the NFL since 1920. Kind of like when colleges get caught gifting things to players and doctoring grades, everyone freaks out and is shocked. News flash, they all do it, some are just better at hiding it.[/quote]

The ironic part is that this is probably the cleanest the game has ever been played..

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1119462]I think it is much ado about nothing. Pretty sure there has been many a football
played with in the NFL outside of the limits. Teams have tried to spy on each other in the NFL since 1920. Kind of like when colleges get caught gifting things to players and doctoring grades, everyone freaks out and is shocked. News flash, they all do it, some are just better at hiding it.[/quote]

I completely agree with you about hiding it. I think it is just like bounty gate, which was dumb too. Just people finding out what the NFL is actually like. Same thing about domestic abuse/alcohol/drug abuse and all the "new" cases.

I also think it is hilarious that the NFL/ESPN decided to release all this information after the deflategate news.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1119462]I think it is much ado about nothing. Pretty sure there has been many a football
played with in the NFL outside of the limits. Teams have tried to spy on each other in the NFL since 1920. Kind of like when colleges get caught gifting things to players and doctoring grades, everyone freaks out and is shocked. News flash, they all do it, some are just better at hiding it.[/quote]



Agree ,I still think 90% of all the hate for the Pats is jealousy.

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[quote=Giantone;1119500]Agree ,I still think 90% of all the hate for the Pats is jealousy.[/quote]

I just read a SI article that said 19 of the other 29 teams take special precautions when they play the Pats, that they do not take vs any other team. I find it hard to believe that teams who have so much game prep to do normally would make extra work just because of jealousy.

I think it is widely believed that they cheat, I think people who leave the organization admit cheating and word gets around.

So if you are the NFL and don't care about cheating then you can ignore it, but if you want to keep the integrity of your games then you have to go after the Pats.

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[QUOTE=Hijinx;1119515]I just read a SI article that said 19 of the other 29 teams take special precautions when they play the Pats, that they do not take vs any other team. I find it hard to believe that teams who have so much game prep to do normally would make extra work just because of jealousy.



I think it is widely believed that they cheat, I think people who leave the organization admit cheating and word gets around.



So if you are the NFL and don't care about cheating then you can ignore it, but if you want to keep the integrity of your games then you have to go after the Pats.[/QUOTE]



Exactly, this was not just about deflategate. Every team doctors the footballs; it's the accumulation of past transgressions.