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[quote=sevier2;1145560]Lauvao back in at Left Guard.
Long rolling with the first team at Center.

I've been looking for this combination over the off-season and am hoping it works out. Long is the biggest question mark but if he can up his game our O-Line would be a bigger/nastier bunch.

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/MasterTes/status/764524339077091328[/url][/quote]

Here is a more detailed report of the same thing:

[url=http://realredskins.com/2016/08/13/live-redskins-practice-report-day-12/]Redskins practice report—Day 12 | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

Long worked at C with the 1s in the 1st and the 2nd team drills. Lict didn't.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

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^Wasn't Kory limited with a sore arm?

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[quote=SirLK26;1145567]^Wasn't Kory limited with a sore arm?[/quote]

Sat out practice

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Then there's that.

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Here it is with the sore arm:

[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/26244/redskins-cb-depth-evident-again-as-dashaun-phillips-greg-toler-make-plays]Redskins CB depth evident as Dashaun Phillips, Greg Toler keep making plays - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

That's a big detail for Tandler to leave out.

Keim is a really good reporter.

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2016/08/15/five-takeaways-as-the-redskins-conclude-training-camp-and-proceed-with-preseason/[/url]

notable:

The disappointment thus far has to be Stephen Paea, who lost his starting job one week into last season and missed the final five games with injury, and has yet to have an impact. He has lacked consistency, flashing one play, going silent the next three or four. He has the talent, and racked up six sacks his final year at Chicago, but hasn’t managed to find comfort within Washington’s system.

But the Redskins still need another edge rusher to help be the additional disruptive force that their defense lacked last season, and that Junior Galette would have provided had he not ruptured another Achilles’ tendon just days before training camp.

Houston Bates, Lynden Trail and Willie Jefferson will continue to get chances to prove themselves in the preseason. But McCloughan will likely pick up another player at this position once teams start making cuts to go from 90 to 75 players, or from 75 to 53

One other offensive position battle that requires additional monitoring: tight end. Jordan Reed is No. 1, no question. But Niles Paul opened camp as the oft-used No. 2, ahead of Vernon Davis, and has since dropped to occasionally-used fullback/third tight end. Last week with Reed out, Davis started ahead of Paul. Throughout camp, Paul has played well, so it’s a curious development, and Paul has appeared frustrated. It remains to be seen if Davis has received additional opportunities as coaches try to see just how much he has in the tank, or if they see him as a better fit.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1145571]Here it is with the sore arm:

[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/26244/redskins-cb-depth-evident-again-as-dashaun-phillips-greg-toler-make-plays]Redskins CB depth evident as Dashaun Phillips, Greg Toler keep making plays - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

That's a big detail for Tandler to leave out.

[B]Keim is a really good reporter[/B].[/quote]

This. I will occasionally review the reporters for other NFC East teams (know thy enemy), and I think Keim is the best. Thorough, measured, and insightful. I am not sure I can think of another reporter that covers the Skins that I put on par.

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Forget the guy's name, but the Cowboys beat guy is the most homeristic homer that ever homered. It is sunshine and rainbows from that guy.

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2016/08/13/as-redskins-miss-an-injured-teammate-your-heart-breaks/[/url]

"Jarrett still appears in video cut-ups that coaches use in meetings; “When you turn on the tapes, our teaching tapes, he shows up all the time doing things right,” said defensive backs coach Perry Fewell. “And we say, ‘Hey, do it like this guy.’ ” "

damn shame

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1145597]Forget the guy's name, but the Cowboys beat guy is the most homeristic homer that ever homered. It is sunshine and rainbows from that guy.[/quote]

Todd "Romo's Boy Toy" Archer.

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YES. That's the one.

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Doctson still not practicing, out at least a couple of more weeks.

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[quote=J. Falcon;1145610]Doctson still not practicing, out at least a couple of more weeks.[/quote]

hopefully he's ready by week 1 but he prob won't play much right away anyway

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[quote=J. Falcon;1145610]Doctson still not practicing, out at least a couple of more weeks.[/quote]

SMH and sigh....

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[quote=skinsfan69;1145615]SMH and sigh....[/quote]

Not bothering me too much right now, but I am keeping a close ear to that

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1145616]Not bothering me too much right now, but I am keeping a close ear to that[/quote]

Yup. Wake me up when he misses his entire rookie season. I like our wr depth, having him healthy would just be a bonus. I honestly don't expect him to have much of an impact this year, I expect this to almost be a redshirt year for him anyways. The WR that can come in and be great from day one is a rare thing in this league.

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I think it was Keim that said at the very least he could make an impact in the redzone until he gets up to speed.

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Looking back at things, I wish we spent the money we did on Norman for Alex Mack. Bigger need and just as good at his position. Kory isn't the answer.
Very bothered by our Oline other than Trent and Brandon

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;1145634]Looking back at things, I wish we spent the money we did on Norman for Alex Mack. Bigger need and just as good at his position. Kory isn't the answer.
Very bothered by our Oline other than Trent and Brandon[/quote]

It was the Colts at pick 18 that fucked us.

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[quote=mredskins;1145636]It was the Colts at pick 18 that fucked us.[/quote]

That's a great point. Kelly would've been a great addition

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;1145638]That's a great point. Kelly would've been a great addition[/quote]
Been a lot better pick then a WR who can't even see the field on a team loaded with WR's (at least for this year).

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Some progress.

Redskins' Josh Doctson: Increases activity level
[url=http://www.thescore.com/news/1080150]Redskins' Josh Doctson: Increases activity level | theScore.com[/url]
(via [url=http://thesco.re/theScore_app]theScore App: The Ultimate, Personalized Mobile Sports Experience[/url] )

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[quote=mredskins;1145640]Been a lot better pick then a WR who can't even see the field on a team loaded with WR's (at least for this year).[/quote]

sure Kelly would have been great, however Doctson could help this year and will be vital next year.... there is no chance both Jackson and Garcon will be back next year

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[quote=Irrefutable;1145650]sure Kelly would have been great, however Doctson could help this year and will be vital next year.... there is no chance both Jackson and Garcon will be back next year[/quote]

Yep, This was a future oriented pick. We gained a 4th rounder and will have flexibility in resigning our WR Corps. Unless he absolutely flat lines, it will work out in the 3-5 year team view.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1145651]Yep, This was a future oriented pick. We gained a 4th rounder and will have flexibility in resigning our WR Corps. Unless he absolutely flat lines, it will work out in the 3-5 year team view.[/quote]

I hear you but if both were on the board, McC is going center. Book it.

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[quote=mredskins;1145652]I hear you but if both were on the board, McC is going center. Book it.[/quote]

Definitely, I agree with you. I was surprised we still didn't, but it was a case of making the best (I hope) choice given the options available.

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I am still bitter about that pick. Ryan wold have been an immediate upgrade for this team. Damn Colts.

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[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Karlos-Williams-cut-by-Buffalo-Bills-46870079]Karlos Williams cut by Buffalo Bills[/url]

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The Bills are stacked at RB. I could see them cutting Mike Gillislee later in camp.

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[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2016/8/21/12579160/kirk-cousins-espn-fantasy-projections]Redskins Player's ESPN Fantasy Projections - Hogs Haven[/url]

just to bookmark it and compare later

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1145818][url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Karlos-Williams-cut-by-Buffalo-Bills-46870079]Karlos Williams cut by Buffalo Bills[/url][/QUOTE]


Hope it's a wake up call for him, things must be really bad if Rex cuts you, he's usually very forgiving of his guys.

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[url=http://realredskins.com/2016/08/21/need-to-know-a-look-at-five-redskins-on-the-roster-bubble/]Need to Know: A look at five Redskins on the roster bubble | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]


Perry Riley on the bubble eh? We could use that extra 5mil towards the cap next year.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1145866][url=http://realredskins.com/2016/08/21/need-to-know-a-look-at-five-redskins-on-the-roster-bubble/]Need to Know: A look at five Redskins on the roster bubble | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]


Perry Riley on the bubble eh? We could use that extra 5mil towards the cap next year.[/quote]

Like to move him...rotational lb for a rotational rb? That extra 5 mil, we gonna need it for the Chris baker extension

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Gruden said Matt Jones out rest of preseason


Redskins coach Jay Gruden says UDFA Rob Kelley will get "a lot" of first-team reps in Matt Jones' (shoulder) preseason absence.

Seventh-rounder Keith Marshall will get "some," according to the Washington Post. It's become crystal clear that Kelley has moved past Marshall on the depth chart, and will begin the season as Jones' primary handcuff. That makes him worth a last-round flier in re-draft leagues. Kelley has 10 carries for 48 yards and a touchdown through two preseason games.

Looks like Kelley is clearly ahead of Marshall.

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Some info on Jones but not a whole lot we dont already know.
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/22/matt-jones-wont-play-again-in-the-preseason/]Matt Jones won’t play again in the preseason | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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Here's how good ol' PFF ranked our RB Group against the rest of the NFL's RB Groups one month ago:

"32. Washington Redskins

Starter: Matt Jones

Backup: Chris Thompson

Key stat: Matt Jones recorded the eighth-best elusive rating of any rookie last year.

Washington was nearly a unanimous decision for the bottom spot among PFF analysts; there’s not much at all to get excited about with this group. The Redskins’ offensive line was much-improved in 2015, but the running backs continually let them down with poor reads and little creativity. Chris Thompson and Matt Jones posted the 55th- and 66th-best overall grades among NFL RBs, respectively, among 69 qualifying running backs."

[I]The good news is that we didn't fall any in the rankings after Matt Jones was injured. The bad news is that's because we were already ranked last.

It's time that we all start to recognize that we are in a predicament at RB. and something meaningful needs to be done about it soon. We are in deep shit and it isn't "Chicken Little" shit. It's real.

Even if Matt Jones makes it back for the opener, we still need another RB who can get it done between the tackles. Chris Thompson can't do it. A 7th round rookie or or a UDFA rookie aren't going to do it. And you can be sure that Matt Jones will be hurt again and miss some time during the season. Matt can't be expected to carry the load himself, anyway.

If we wait until cuts are made, there's no guarantee that will be able to pick up a player who gets cut. Street FA's aren't just hanging around waiting until the Redskins call them. They can sign with any team. It seems to me that SM should be making a trade for a useful RB in the next couple of weeks.[/I]

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1145870]Here's how good ol' PFF ranked our RB Group against the rest of the NFL's RB Groups one month ago:

"32. Washington Redskins

Starter: Matt Jones

Backup: Chris Thompson

Key stat: Matt Jones recorded the eighth-best elusive rating of any rookie last year.

Washington was nearly a unanimous decision for the bottom spot among PFF analysts; there’s not much at all to get excited about with this group. The Redskins’ offensive line was much-improved in 2015, but the running backs continually let them down with poor reads and little creativity. Chris Thompson and Matt Jones posted the 55th- and 66th-best overall grades among NFL RBs, respectively, among 69 qualifying running backs."

[I]The good news is that we didn't fall any in the rankings after Matt Jones was injured. The bad news is that's because we were already ranked last.

It's time that we all start to recognize that we are in a predicament at RB. and something meaningful needs to be done about it soon. We are in deep shit and it isn't "Chicken Little" shit. It's real.

Even if Matt Jones makes it back for the opener, we still need another RB who can get it done between the tackles. Chris Thompson can't do it. A 7th round rookie or or a UDFA rookie aren't going to do it. And you can be sure that Matt Jones will be hurt again and miss some time during the season. Matt can't be expected to carry the load himself, anyway.

If we wait until cuts are made, there's no guarantee that will be able to pick up a player who gets cut. Street FA's aren't just hanging around waiting until the Redskins call them. They can sign with any team. It seems to me that SM should be making a trade for a useful RB in the next couple of weeks.[/I][/quote]

Its looking more and more like Hillman will get cut in Denver . . . he might not be too bad . . . i also hear that kniles Davis from KC is available for pretty cheap . . . another i wouldn't mind seeing here.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1145871]Its looking more and more like Hillman will get cut in Denver . . . he might not be too bad . . . i also hear that kniles Davis from KC is available for pretty cheap . . . another i wouldn't mind seeing here.[/quote]

FYI:

"August 3, 2016 1:24 pm

Chiefs' Knile Davis: Improving receiving skills
by RotoWire Staff | RotoWire

Davis, who's struggled in the past catching the ball out of the backfield, has improved in that area during the offseason, Terez A. Paylor of the Kansas City Star reports.

Davis caught a pass on a wheel route during practice that opened some eyes and special teams coach Dave Toub indicated that he remains the team's No. 1 kick returner despite the presence of De'Anthony Thomas and Tyreek Hill. The fourth-year back out of Arkansas has also worked as a cover guy on punt returns, something that could keep him on the 53-man roster as a fourth-string running back if he proves effective in that role."

[I]I'd much prefer Davis. At 227 pounds, he's bigger than Hillman. He may be faster than Hillman, as well. He also has proven himself on ST, as has Hillman.[/I]

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1145871]Its looking more and more like Hillman will get cut in Denver . . . he might not be too bad . . . i also hear that kniles Davis from KC is available for pretty cheap . . . another i wouldn't mind seeing here.[/quote]

Davis averaged 2.6 ypc in 2015 and 3.3 for his career... no thanks.... KC might have other RBs worth considering

Hillman, maybe

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I'd see what Tennessee would want for David Cobb. New gm went out and got Murray and Henry...6th round pick would probably work