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[quote=diehardskin2982;1164632]That was fun...

Your score is: 9427 (GRADE: C+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 26 (SEA): Malik McDowell, DT/DE, Michigan State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 1 (CLE): Budda Baker, FS, Washington (B+)
Round 2 Pick 22 (MIA): Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson (A)
Round 3 Pick 17: Kendell Beckwith, ILB, LSU (B-)
Round 3 Pick 33 (DEN): David Sharpe, OG, Florida (A)
Round 3 Pick 34 (MIA): Devonte Fields, OLB/DE, Louisville (B)
Round 4 Pick 7: Adam Shaheen, TE, Ashland (B+)
Round 4 Pick 17: Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor (A)
Round 5 Pick 10: James Conner, RB, Pittsburgh (A-)
Round 6 Pick 17: Jalen Myrick, CB, Minnesota (B)
Round 6 Pick 25: Amba Etta-Tawo, WR, Syracuse (B+)
Round 7 Pick 17: Anthony Firkser, FB, Harvard (A-)[/quote]

I like this draft a lot too...I would be ecstatic to come away with your top 4 picks. And Conner, the RB from Pitt is a load.

Just curious how this draft got a C+ grade, when all of your picks are rated as either an A or B. That makes no sense to me.

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[quote=Bangee7;1164639]I like this draft a lot too...I would be ecstatic to come away with your top 4 picks. And Conner, the RB from Pitt is a load.

Just curious how this draft got a C+ grade, when all of your picks are rated as either an A or B. That makes no sense to me.[/quote]

I think because I traded down then trade up and you lose points for trading up.

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I could do that mock draft simulator for hours, here was my draft:

17: R1P17 CB TEEZ TABOR FLORIDA
49: R2P17 S BUDDA BAKER WASHINGTON
81: R3P17 EDGE DEMARCUS WALKER FLORIDA STATE
112: R4P7 C ETHAN POCIC LSU
122: R4P17 WR AMARA DARBOH MICHIGAN
155: R5P10 DL LARRY OGUNJOBI CHARLOTTE
162: R5P17 RB JAMES CONNER PITTSBURGH
202: R6P17 DL KENNY BIGELOW JR. USC
210: R6P25 TE COLE HIKUTINI LOUISVILLE

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Redskins visits list;

Austell, OT, Charleston Southern (EW)
Zach Banner, OT, USC (SR)
Tarell Basham, DE, Ohio (SR)
Billy Brown, WR, Shepherd (EW)
Ryan Glasgow, DT, Michigan (SR)
Joey Ivie, DT, Florida (EW)
Forrest Lamp, OT, Western Kentucky (SR)
Brendan Langley, CB, Lamar (SR)
Avery Moss, DE, Youngstown State (EW)
Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M (SR)
De'Veon Smith, RB, Michigan (EW)
Tony Stevens, WR, Auburn (EW)
Channing Stribling, CB, Michigan (EW)
Marquez White, CB, Florid

Read more at [url=http://walterfootball.com/ProspectMeetings/ByTeam#mosAL184cbmoUh1F.99]2017 NFL Draft Prospect Visits Tracked by Team[/url]

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I don't think any of the guys we visited last year joined the team.

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I am not trading up for really anyone but if Leonard Fournette is there at pick 17, it would take me all of 3 seconds to turn that card in.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1164671]I don't think any of the guys we visited last year joined the team.[/quote]

I looked at that awhile back & I think last year was like only 2 out of the 30+ guys joined the team...one was Steven Daniels and I can't remember the other one.

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PFF top 32 players;

[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-college-football-top-32-prospects-for-the-2017-nfl-draft/?utm_content=buffera9d6f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=college[/url]

I would take OJ if he is available at #17. He could be another Gronkowski.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1164754]PFF top 32 players;

[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-college-football-top-32-prospects-for-the-2017-nfl-draft/?utm_content=buffera9d6f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=college[/url]

I would take OJ if he is available at #17. He could be another Gronkowski.[/quote]

Well he better be scoring 23 points a game because we dont have a pass rush.

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17: R1P17 EDGE TACO CHARLTON, MICHIGAN
49: R2P17 G DAN FEENEY, Indiana
81: R3P17 TE JAKE BUTT, michigan
112: R4P7 DL CARLOS WATKINS, Clemson
122: R4P17 S LORENZO JEROME, SAINT FRANCIS (PA)
155: R5P10 DL LARRY OGUNJOBI, Charlotte
162: R5P17 WR TRAVIS RUDOLPH, FSU
202: R6P17 DL D.J. JONES, OLE MISS
210: R6P25 LB BEN BOULWARE, Clemson

This is the first mock I have ever done, it was fun, but I realized I don't know many players once it get a little later in the draft.

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17: R1P17 EDGE TACO CHARLTON, MICHIGAN
49: R2P17 G DAN FEENEY, INDIANA
81: R3P17 S LORENZO JEROME, SAINT FRANCIS (PA)
112: R4P7 CB CORN ELDER, MIAMI (FLA.)
122: R4P17 DL LARRY OGUNJOBI, CHARLOTTE
155: R5P10 WR TRAVIS RUDOLPH, FSU
162: R5P17 DL D.J. JONES, OLE MISS
202: R6P17 QB JOSHUA DOBBS, TENNESSEE
210: R6P25 LB BEN BOULWARE, CLEMSON

another one I did, I like having a developement QB in camp and am not sold on Sudfeld, I would also like to bring in several RB's undrafted

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1164646]I could do that mock draft simulator for hours, here was my draft:

17: R1P17 CB TEEZ TABOR FLORIDA
49: R2P17 S BUDDA BAKER WASHINGTON
81: R3P17 EDGE DEMARCUS WALKER FLORIDA STATE
112: R4P7 C ETHAN POCIC LSU
122: R4P17 WR AMARA DARBOH MICHIGAN
155: R5P10 DL LARRY OGUNJOBI CHARLOTTE
162: R5P17 RB JAMES CONNER PITTSBURGH
202: R6P17 DL KENNY BIGELOW JR. USC
210: R6P25 TE COLE HIKUTINI LOUISVILLE[/quote]


I have seen several of you take Ethan Pocic, is your thought that we will move Long to LG. I thought he did a great job at C and will only get better.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1164768]Well he better be scoring 23 points a game because we dont have a pass rush.[/quote]

The first round of the draft is not the only chance to improve the defense. They have $60+ million for free agents. And 8 more draft picks.

If you had Reed and Howard as TEs, Doctson and Crowder as WRs..... you might score 35 points per game.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1164768]Well he better be scoring 23 points a game because we dont have a pass rush.[/quote]

:laughing2

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[quote=Irrefutable;1164775]The first round of the draft is not the only chance to improve the defense. They have $60+ million for free agents. And 8 more draft picks.

If you had Reed and Howard as TEs, Doctson and Crowder as WRs..... you might score 35 points per game.[/quote]

Screw that....this team needs more balance.
We need to draft defense.

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[quote=hutch17;1164774]I have seen several of you take Ethan Pocic, is your thought that we will move Long to LG. I thought he did a great job at C and will only get better.[/quote]

Move him to guard or have Pocic move to guard. I've seen mocks with him in the 2nd round so he was also BPA at that point.

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Decent article on this draft, [url=http://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2017/02/09/redskins-scot-mccloughan-knew-what-he-was-doing-waiting-for-2017/]Why Redskins GM Scot McCloughan waited for the 2017 draft class | Redskins Wire[/url]

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Sleeper FS Josh Jones ..... 100+ tackles and 3 interceptions...4th round- 1st pick

[url=http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/549940/josh-jones]Josh Jones Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - NC State Wolfpack - ESPN[/url]

[url]http://www.backingthepack.com/2016/11/29/13775824/did-josh-jones-get-the-shaft-an-all-acc-safety-comparison[/url]

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[quote=Irrefutable;1165009]Sleeper FS Josh Jones ..... 100+ tackles and 3 interceptions...4th round- 1st pick

[url=http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/549940/josh-jones]Josh Jones Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - NC State Wolfpack - ESPN[/url]

[url]http://www.backingthepack.com/2016/11/29/13775824/did-josh-jones-get-the-shaft-an-all-acc-safety-comparison[/url][/quote]

I need to know what round are u taking him

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[quote=Chico23231;1165010]I need to know what round are u taking him[/quote]

Sleeper FS Josh Jones ..... 100+ tackles and 3 interceptions...[B][COLOR="Red"]4th round- 1st pick[/COLOR][/B]

The New Orleans pick in the 4th

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[quote=Irrefutable;1165011]Sleeper FS Josh Jones ..... 100+ tackles and 3 interceptions...[B][COLOR="Red"]4th round- 1st pick[/COLOR][/B]

The New Orleans pick in the 4th[/quote]

Would be great to find a free safety prospect in this draft...I hope we spend a pick of there.

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[quote=Chico23231;1165018]Would be great to find a free safety prospect in this draft...I hope we spend a pick of there.[/quote]

Is Breeland moving to safety? I heard that this week. If he does, I gotta think he will be a FS type,esspecially if Cravens goes to Safety.

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[quote=Bangee7;1165025]Is Breeland moving to safety? I heard that this week. If he does, I gotta think he will be a FS type,esspecially if Cravens goes to Safety.[/quote]

Id keep Bree in the slot unless if they decide to play more press man on the outside. I wouldn't move him to Free Safety at all.

Pencil in Cravens SS and Norman CB on his side as starters. Keep open the opposite CB side for Dunbar and Fuller competition. Breeland in the Slot and Blackmon as the incumbent FS and adding a FS draft prospect behind Blackmon. You probably could add a CB draft prospect as well.

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As much as I want a pass rusher or DLine man I would not be upset if we could get a CB like Teez Tabor.
If he can start or become a first year starter then our secondary would be solidified especially if Cravens stays in the safety position.
That would make it easier to move Breeland to safety too.

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I have been watching the mocks and highlights and really think that the value/need for us will be Budda Baker out of Washington at 13 or even a couple spots back if we can pull off a trade, he slots in immediately as your starting FS and Cravens at SS that would be a great combo. I just don't think any of the top flight D Linemen will be available there and anyone else worth taking with be there in the 2nd for us. [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoXL6gsuFNs"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoXL6gsuFNs[/URL]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1164874]Decent article on this draft, [url=http://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2017/02/09/redskins-scot-mccloughan-knew-what-he-was-doing-waiting-for-2017/]Why Redskins GM Scot McCloughan waited for the 2017 draft class | Redskins Wire[/url][/quote]

I think there was reason he got the extra mid round pick for 2017. This might be the reason, SM thought the 2017 class had better players or was a deeper draft.

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[quote=Chico23231;1165028]Id keep Bree in the slot unless if they decide to play more press man on the outside. I wouldn't move him to Free Safety at all.

Pencil in Cravens SS and Norman CB on his side as starters. Keep open the opposite CB side for Dunbar and Fuller competition. Breeland in the Slot and Blackmon as the incumbent FS and adding a FS draft prospect behind Blackmon. You probably could add a CB draft prospect as well.[/quote]

I would draft both SS and FS. You have to almost consider Cravens a project still, plus his rook year was injury ridden. Sorry, I just am not all in with Cravens yet. The 2016 class sort of was meh after all was said and done. Too many stud safeties in this draft, as well as CBs. I don't see why anyone would be satisfied with our defensive backfield sans Norman. IF Breeland can get his mojo back from 2014-15 we are OK at CB with an addition via the draft just for depth or to develop for later with Fuller.

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On Redskin Nation Larry Michael just gave a list of all the Redskins draft picks in 2017.... "They have the 17th pick in every round " ... nope, is the staff totally clueless.

I think about 1% of his shows are worth watching

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[quote=Irrefutable;1165260]On Redskin Nation Larry Michael just gave a list of all the Redskins draft picks in 2017.... "They have the 17th pick in every round " ... nope, is the staff totally clueless.

I think about 1% of his shows are worth watching[/quote]

Nooooooo. It's the ultimate homer show. Nobody homers like no "s" Larry Michael.

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Mike Mayock's initial Top 5 by Position for 2017 Draft:

Quarterback

1. DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
2. Deshaun Watson, Clemson
3. Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
4. Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech
5. Davis Webb, California

Running Back

1. Dalvin Cook, Florida State
2. Leonard Fournette, LSU
3. Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
4. Alvin Kamara, Tennessee
5. Joe Mixon, Oklahoma

Wide receiver

1. Corey Davis, Western Michigan
2. Mike Williams, Clemson
3. John Ross, Washington
4. Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington
5. Zay Jones, East Carolina

Tight end

1. O.J. Howard, Alabama
2. David Njoku, Miami
3. Evan Engram, Ole Miss
4. Jake Butt, Michigan
5. Gerald Everett, South Alabama

Offensive tackle

1. Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin
2. Garett Bolles, Utah
3. Antonio Garcia, Troy
4. Roderick Johnson, Florida State
T-5. Taylor Moton, Western Michigan
T-5. Jermaine Eluemunor, Texas A&M

Interior OL

1. Forrest Lamp, Western Kentucky
2. Cam Robinson, Alabama
3. Dan Feeney, Indiana
4. Ethan Pocic, LSU
5. Dion Dawkins, Temple

Interior DL

1. Jonathan Allen, Alabama
2. Caleb Brantley, Florida
3. Malik McDowell, Michigan State
4. Larry Ogunjobi, Charlotte
5. Chris Wormley, Michigan

Edge rusher

1. Myles Garrett, Texas A&M
2. Tim Williams, Alabama
3. Derek Barnett, Tennessee
4. Solomon Thomas, Stanford
5. Takkarist McKinley, UCLA

Linebacker

1. Reuben Foster, Alabama
2. Haason Reddick, Temple
3. Zach Cunningham, Vanderbilt
4. Jarrad Davis, Florida
5. Alex Anzalone, Florida

Cornerback

1. Sidney Jones, Washington
2. Marshon Lattimore, Ohio State
3. Marlon Humphrey, Alabama
4. Teez Tabor, Florida
5. Tre'Davious White, LSU

Safety

1. Malik Hooker, Ohio State
2. Jamal Adams, LSU
3. Jabrill Peppers, Michigan
4. Budda Baker, Washington
5. Obi Melifonwu, Connecticut

Special exceptions

Note: This category is for players who are not ranked in the top 5 at their position but have special value elsewhere (special teams, for example).

1. Adoree' Jackson, USC
2. Curtis Samuel, Ohio State
3. Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado
4. Desmond King, Iowa
5. Adam Shaheen, Ashland

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They need another TE, here is a small school sleeper, although the scouts know who he is. Checkout the video... 277 lbs and 4.7 speed

[url=http://www.draftcountdown.com/player/adam-shaheen/]Adam Shaheen – NFL Draft Countdown[/url]

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I've been doing so many mock drafts on that fanspeak site. Good way to see some different player names to research. Tyus Bowser from Houston looks like a good OLB in 3rd + round.

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Every draft is pivotal to any team's future. I think this draft will guide the direction of the team philosophy either towards the run or the pass. In my view either towards Scott or Jay's view.

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[quote=30gut;1165436]Every draft is pivotal to any team's future. I think this draft will guide the direction of the team philosophy either towards the run or the pass. In my view either towards Scott or Jay's view.[/quote]

Your score is: 9996 (GRADE: C+)

Your Picks:

Round 1 Pick 17: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)
^^The decision at 17 IF 1 of the top RBs is still on the board is imho a franchise changing decision.

Round 2 Pick 17: Ryan Anderson, OLB/DE, Alabama (B)
Round 3 Pick 17: Eddie Jackson, SS, Alabama (B)
^^As a FS not a SS

Round 4 Pick 7: Davon Godchaux, DT, LSU (B+)
Round 4 Pick 17: Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 5 Pick 10: Davis Webb, QB, California (A-)
Round 5 Pick 17: Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (A-)
Round 6 Pick 17: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A+)
Round 6 Pick 25: Trent Taylor, WR, Louisiana Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 17: Tashawn Bower, OLB, LSU (B)

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As a VT fan, I hate (love) Switzer. I think he could be another Crowder for us.

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Man there a couple really solid ILB prospects probably going between our first and second picks...I would love to see us go in that direction if we can find a solid starter.

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[quote=Chico23231;1165442]Man there a couple really solid ILB prospects probably going between our first and second picks...I would love to see us go in that direction if we can find a solid starter.[/quote]


who ?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1165438]As a VT fan, I hate (love) Switzer. I think he could be another Crowder for us.[/quote]

He was the player that caught my eye when trying to judge Trubisky vs FSU. Count me a fan

Im interested in the developmental QBs to be found in the mid rounds. 30gut I noticed you mocked Davis Webb in the 5th, any others you guys like?

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Here is a good list of all draft prospects. It includes stats and videos.

[url=http://www.draftcountdown.com/nfl-draft-ranking/2017-defensive-tackle-rankings/]2017 Defensive Tackle Rankings – NFL Draft Countdown[/url]

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Do you have to be a paid member to get a draft grade? I haven't seen any on the ones I did.