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Im pulling for taylor, like some one just said you cant have TOO much depth on the lines .... imagine the ability to rotate like a few other teams, keeping guys fresh all game without a huge drop off in performance? Thats a huge asset to any team.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1197039]I'm listening through the 980 podcasts this weekend.

Just heard Doc Walker mention Phil Taylor came into camp at 307, literally the best and quickest shape of his pro career.

At 307, and as athletic as he is, he could be a real dark horse to make the team.

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How many DL will they keep? They might have someone to trade at the end of camp.

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Barring injury Taylor is up against the numbers game, had we not drafted Settle he would have a much better shot.

Allen, Payne, Ioannidis, Lanier, Settle are all locks. Hood is the favorite for the 6th spot. Possible they could keep 7 but probably unlikely.

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1197041]How many DL will they keep? They might have someone to trade at the end of camp.[/QUOTE]I think it depends on special teams.
Totally agree with Meks, having a fresh DL in the 4th would be so sweet after watching our pass rush evaporate after the second half.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1197042]Barring injury Taylor is up against the numbers game, had we not drafted Settle he would have a much better shot[/QUOTE]Agree. He has 1st round talent but It will be tough for him to make it.

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[quote=MTK;1197042]Barring injury Taylor is up against the numbers game, had we not drafted Settle he would have a much better shot.

Allen, Payne, Ioannidis, Lanier, Settle are all locks. Hood is the favorite for the 6th spot. Possible they could keep 7 but probably unlikely.[/quote]

Sounds like Taylor is doing the absolute best job possible to force the team to keep him. Thats all he can do, and it gives him a good chance to catch on with another team if we can't keep him. I'm rooting for the guy regardless of where he plays.

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[quote=MTK;1197042]Barring injury Taylor is up against the numbers game, had we not drafted Settle he would have a much better shot.

Allen, Payne, Ioannidis, Lanier, Settle are all locks. Hood is the favorite for the 6th spot. Possible they could keep 7 but probably unlikely.[/quote]

Hood’s a lock too because Settle and Lanier are specialists. 2 down run stuffer and pass rush specialist. If Allen or Ioannidis go down, Hood is the guy that replaces them.

To me the only drama is whether we decide to keep a 7th or not with that battle being fought by McGee and Taylor.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1197049]Hood’s a lock too because Settle and Lanier are specialists. 2 down run stuffer and pass rush specialist. If Allen or Ioannidis go down, Hood is the guy that replaces them.

To me the only drama is whether we decide to keep a 7th or not with that battle being fought by McGee and Taylor.[/QUOTE]I have no idea of the likelihood of this, but I would love them to keep 7 DLs.
Cut Smithson, I trust our DB squad.

We could dominate the trenches, I don't want that to be jeopardised.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1197044]Agree. He has 1st round talent but It will be tough for him to make it.

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That is a strange thing to say. If he dominates as he did last year before he got hurt, they would be forced to keep him. That kind of talent doesn't grow on trees.

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[quote=Schneed10;1197049]Hood’s a lock too because Settle and Lanier are specialists. 2 down run stuffer and pass rush specialist. If Allen or Ioannidis go down, Hood is the guy that replaces them.

To me the only drama is whether we decide to keep a 7th or not with that battle being fought by McGee and Taylor.[/quote]

Confused on this -- I know Ziggy is a coach favorite, but seems like if Phil Taylor plays better than Hood, Hood would be at risk.. Ziggy is 31yo and Taylor is one year younger... Not to mention Phil is a true NT. Also last year, Ziggy played out of position, but [URL="https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/ziggy-hood/4955"]his PFF grade was 38.5, #122nd rated DL[/URL]..

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[quote=MTK;1197006]Man our DL should be absolutely beastly with Allen, Payne, and Ioannidis.[/quote]

The line and running games progression this year is what makes me most curious for the season. If both those get shored up The Skins will be incredibly formidable.

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Plus McGee will come back in the middle of the year. I could see him pushing his way onto the field.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1197052]That is a strange thing to say. If he dominates as he did last year before he got hurt, they would be forced to keep him. That kind of talent doesn't grow on trees.[/QUOTE]If he dominates, then yea.

If he is slightly above the next guy, does he get a roster spot with his injury history and inability to ever stay on the field?

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[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2018/07/29/jamison-crowder-alex-smith-connection-starting-to-flourish-for-redskins/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.fa82488efa77"]Jamison Crowder-Alex Smith connection starting to flourish for Redskins[/URL]

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A common theme with A Smith throwing the ball is the accuracy...he places the ball better than Cousins whether its back shoulder, ball away from defenders and placing it with more run after the catch opportunities.

Also heard A Smith communicates better than Cousins with his receivers.

Hopefully this leads to better execution of the passing game.

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When you hear other players describe Smith the word that keeps coming up is 'precise'

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1197067]A common theme with A Smith throwing the ball is the accuracy...he places the ball better than Cousins whether its back shoulder, ball away from defenders and placing it with more run after the catch opportunities.

Also heard A Smith communicates better than Cousins with his receivers.

Hopefully this leads to better execution of the passing game.[/QUOTE]Look for the fade then.

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Training camp so far is not doing anything to stop the koolaid from flowing. Now of course we have to wait for preseason to drag on.

[url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/30/redskins-young-defensive-line-has-the-makings-to-be-dominant/[/url]

[url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/29/redskins-swearinger-on-rookie-payne-hes-a-beast-in-the-middle/[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1197072]Training camp so far is not doing anything to stop the koolaid from flowing. Now of course we have to wait for preseason to drag on.

[url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/30/redskins-young-defensive-line-has-the-makings-to-be-dominant/[/url]

[url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/29/redskins-swearinger-on-rookie-payne-hes-a-beast-in-the-middle/[/url][/quote]

pass over that drank cause if the eagles can win a superbowl...anything can happen...even a dominant D-Line for the Redskins.

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Training camp is always kool aid time, the regular season is all cold hard reality so I say bring on that sweet delicious kool aid, drink up while we can

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[quote=MTK;1197079]Training camp is always kool aid time, the regular season is all cold hard reality so I say bring on that sweet delicious kool aid, drink up while we can[/quote]

I will always drink the Kool Aid just because when the time comes that we actually do win a Super Bowl again, I know I'm going to want to say [B]I KNEW IT. EAT A BOWL, HATERS.[/B]

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[quote=Schneed10;1197080]I will always drink the Kool Aid just because when the time comes that we actually do win a Super Bowl again, I know I'm going to want to say [B]I KNEW IT. EAT A BOWL, HATERS.[/B][/quote]

LOL!!! Hahahaha! Where is the like button when you need it? :httr:

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1197072]Training camp so far is not doing anything to stop the koolaid from flowing. Now of course we have to wait for preseason to drag on.

[url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/30/redskins-young-defensive-line-has-the-makings-to-be-dominant/[/url]

[url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/29/redskins-swearinger-on-rookie-payne-hes-a-beast-in-the-middle/[/url][/quote]

The media does a great job talking up all these stories about how well so and so looks in camp. We hear the same thing year after year after year. I just can't pay any attention to it at all cause it means nothing. Remember how great Doc and Pryor looked last year? Once the games started Pryor couldn't catch a beach ball.

I'm in wait and see mode w/ Smith. Yeah he does some things better than Cousins but he also is a conservative QB by nature. He has only gone over 4,000 one time in his career which is hard to do in the NFL these days. But he rarely turns the ball over. Smith sort of comes across as a guy who is good enough to stay employed as a starter, but really can't get a team over the hump and that's why two teams have moved on from him.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1197096]The media does a great job talking up all these stories about how well so and so looks in camp. We hear the same thing year after year after year. I just can't pay any attention to it at all cause it means nothing. Remember how great Doc and Pryor looked last year? Once the games started Pryor couldn't catch a beach ball.

I'm in wait and see mode w/ Smith. Yeah he does some things better than Cousins but he also is a conservative QB by nature. He has only gone over 4,000 one time in his career which is hard to do in the NFL these days. But he rarely turns the ball over. Smith sort of comes across as a guy who is good enough to stay employed as a starter, but really can't get a team over the hump and that's why two teams have moved on from him.[/quote]

This is the worst flavored koolaid I've ever tasted.

Deep down in our souls tho, we all agree with this post in general. But I do think Smith is better for this team specifically than Cousins.

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Still shocked we got this hog in the 5th:

[url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/30/tim-settle-unexpected-playing-time-turn-heads-redskins-training-camp/[/url]

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1197104]This is the worst flavored koolaid I've ever tasted.

Deep down in our souls tho, we all agree with this post in general. But I do think Smith is better for this team specifically than Cousins.[/QUOTE]Not sure I agree.
Smith is a conservative QB for sure, but he is also a very good deep ball QB.
And even if last year was a anomaly, I still disagree with the "can't get a team over the hump" part: let's all remember the Ravens won a SB with Flaco, and the Jags went to the AFC championship with Bortles.

Not saying we're winning a Lombardy this year, but I really like our roster, and I don't think AS is the kind of QB that PREVENTS your team from winning it all.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1197096]The media does a great job talking up all these stories about how well so and so looks in camp. We hear the same thing year after year after year. I just can't pay any attention to it at all cause it means nothing. Remember how great Doc and Pryor looked last year? Once the games started Pryor couldn't catch a beach ball.

I'm in wait and see mode w/ Smith. Yeah he does some things better than Cousins but he also is a conservative QB by nature. He has only gone over 4,000 one time in his career which is hard to do in the NFL these days. But he rarely turns the ball over. Smith sort of comes across as a guy who is good enough to stay employed as a starter, but really can't get a team over the hump and that's why two teams have moved on from him.[/quote]

I agree with this. I ain't saying it's doom and gloom but you have to see the results on the field, until then it's all lip service.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1197096]The media does a great job talking up all these stories about how well so and so looks in camp. We hear the same thing year after year after year. I just can't pay any attention to it at all cause it means nothing. Remember how great Doc and Pryor looked last year? Once the games started Pryor couldn't catch a beach ball.

I'm in wait and see mode w/ Smith. Yeah he does some things better than Cousins but he also is a conservative QB by nature. He has only gone over 4,000 one time in his career which is hard to do in the NFL these days. But he rarely turns the ball over. Smith sort of comes across as a guy who is good enough to stay employed as a starter, but really can't get a team over the hump and that's why two teams have moved on from him.[/QUOTE]Boo! Boo! NFC title or bust.

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In all seriousness, this is the deepest roster across all positron groups in a decade or more.

AS is a legit NFL starter.

This team has real potential.

As always, the thing with potential since the beginning of time is realization.

I do believe the buzz, the hopefulness isn't misplaced.

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[URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/play-day-redskins-wr-maurice-harris-making-his-case-roster-spot"]Play of the day: Redskins WR Maurice Harris is making his case for a roster spot [/URL]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1197113][URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/play-day-redskins-wr-maurice-harris-making-his-case-roster-spot"]Play of the day: Redskins WR Maurice Harris is making his case for a roster spot [/URL][/QUOTE]TOLD YA !! Haha kidding, but he can make it.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1197104]This is the worst flavored koolaid I've ever tasted.

Deep down in our souls tho, we all agree with this post in general. But I do think Smith is better for this team specifically than Cousins.[/quote]

I agree. It was time to move on from the Cousins situation and the Redskins did what they had to do. They may have got a better QB and paid less money for him.

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Doc is making great catches 1V1 ... We saw this last yr with TP. I hope he really is legit but I'm not drinking that Cherry Kool-Aid like last summer....

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Yeah 1 v 1s don't mean a whole lot. No pass rush, no safety help over the top or linebackers in zone underneath.

So Doctson's performance isn't telling us anything we don't already know. Doctson can make acrobatic catches, we already knew that. The question is can he get open frequently enough in 11 v 11.

I'm optimistic because Richardson and Reed will both draw more attention. Doc should have some space to work which should allow him to use his hops to his advantage. But that's the key - don't watch 1 v 1s, they don't tell you anything. Watch 11 v 11s and preseason snaps.

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[quote=Schneed10;1197121]Yeah 1 v 1s don't mean a whole lot. No pass rush, no safety help over the top or linebackers in zone underneath.

So Doctson's performance isn't telling us anything we don't already know. Doctson can make acrobatic catches, we already knew that. The question is can he get open frequently enough in 11 v 11.

I'm optimistic because Richardson and Reed will both draw more attention. Doc should have some space to work which should allow him to use his hops to his advantage. But that's the key - don't watch 1 v 1s, they don't tell you anything. Watch 11 v 11s and preseason snaps.[/quote]

Yep, I think Reed could really be in for a huge year . He says he's as healthy as ever. Guice will also take a ton of pressure off

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I don't believe for a second that Reed will remain healthy long enough to have a good year.

The problem I have with Doctson is that he played like a p***y last season. He could not get off jams at the LOS and he was pushed around by smaller DB's all year long. Unless he has grown a pair during the offseason, he won't do much.

So, I'm very skeptical about what we'll get from those two this season.

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the kool aid is thoroughly flowing through my veins, guys. Lol. Can't really help it with the potential our current roster has. My hope is that Alex really sinks himself into the offense, same with Guice. My real hope is that we finally have a strong defensive front and the coaches use it the best they can. It's always an exciting time, training camp and pre-season. Exciting in the sense that right now the whole league is equal. 0-0. This roset is capable, I hope the secondary really takes shape over this next month as well. We can only go up from here lol.

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Haven't heard much Trey Quinn hype anymore

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1197127]Haven't heard much Trey Quinn hype anymore[/quote]

chick hernandez just put that to rest for ya via twitter. lol - coincidence running high today in my world. Weird.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1197115]TOLD YA !! Haha kidding, but he can make it.

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If given the opportunity, Harris would put up the same or surpass Docston's numbers. Harris has great hands, Doc does not.