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[quote=skinsfan69;1198417]The comment about Snyder and Bruce was a joke. But as I've said there will be guys cut pretty soon that could help us and I've already given the Collins example. Also when CP got hurt I do remember Ledell Betts having a career year and Duckett was pretty much a non factor.[/quote]

Signing AP doesn't preclude the organization from continuing their attempts to improve the team. If someone better is made available down the road who they think can make the team better, I'm sure they will due their due diligence.

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[quote=GridIron26;1198363]First of all, I do not condone AP's action at all. Second, what the article explained - it is about how AP was taught, the community around him gave children same or similar punishments. The most important thing (which I think lot of people were quick to disregard) is that AP showed remorse and changed his behavior after realizing that that kind of punishment is no longer acceptable today in this era. How some people react to AP, even after he admitted that it was a mistake - it is essentially like being angry at one person for learning what their parents taught that person. I can understand your respond if AP was like, "fuck you all, I'm going to do whatever I want", heck I would hate him if he said that but that is not the case.

Again, I emphasize I do not support any kind of abusive behavior/action regardless of reasons behind it.[/quote]

k . . . michael vick grew up in an area and setting in which dog fighting was perfectly acceptable and normal . . . he did years in prison for animal abuse . . . yet this as got nothing but a slap for CHILD ABUSE . . . and in no way . . . NONE, is it acceptable to make your 4 year old bleed all over his body including his balls . . . not even in his upbringing . . . tis BULLSHIT!!!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1198385]Did he already pay his debt legally and to the NFL? Yes.

Has he been accused of anything remotely close to this since then? No.

Ok, lets play some fucking football.[/quote]

actually . . . multiple women (girlfriends of his) have accused him of abusing their kids . . . women that were reaping the benefits of his wealth, then all of a sudden were scared shitless of him . . . SO YES HE HAS BEEN ACCUSED since then . . . he has just gotten smarter and how he does it . . . no marks, no evidence!!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1198398]For those vehemently opposed, how will it affect your rooting for the team? Hypothetically if the skuns were to win the NFC and AP was voted comeback player of the year, would you not join in the celebration?[/quote]

I am rooting for the team to suck horribly as long as he is in on the team and for the team to pay for hiring a POS like that in the first place. (GM, coaches, everyone . . . FIRED) I would rather they went 0 - 16 without him than 19 - 0 with him.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1198416]People seem to forget that Peterson played most of his games last season with an Arizona team that had the combination of Drew Stanton and Blaine Gabbert at QB.[/quote]

he also sucked in NO . . . behind a line that had no problem for blocking for their other two RB's

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OMG People!

This is a one year rental for the much loved vet minimum!

If you didn't watch last weeks game, let me recap it for you:
CT: Didn't play because he's fragile and coming back from injury.
Kelley: 7 carries for 17 yards - HE SUCKS!
Perine: Injured
Marshall: Injured
Carter: Injured and cut - Injury settlement
Bibbs: 5 carries for 6 yards - HE ALSO SUCKS!

Our two healthy backs couldn't average 2 yards a carry combined.

This is a no risk, high reward situation.
Worst case, we cut him and it counts 600K against the cap.
Best case, he has a season like Marcus Allen when Allen went to the Chiefs.

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[quote=jamf;1198436]OMG People!

This is a one year rental for the much loved vet minimum!

If you didn't watch last weeks game, let me recap it for you:
CT: Didn't play because he's fragile and coming back from injury.
Kelley: 7 carries for 17 yards - HE SUCKS!
Perine: Injured
Marshall: Injured
Carter: Injured and cut - Injury settlement
Bibbs: 5 carries for 6 yards - HE ALSO SUCKS!

Our two healthy backs couldn't average 2 yards a carry combined.

This is a no risk, high reward situation.
Worst case, we cut him and it counts 600K against the cap.
[B]Best case, he has a season like Marcus Allen when Allen went to the Chiefs.[/B][/quote]

Marcus Allen was sent packing because he somehow ended up in the Raiders dog house, not because his production had tailed off.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1198433]he also sucked in NO . . . behind a line that had no problem for blocking for their other two RB's[/quote]

He didn't suck in New Orleans, they just didn't give him the ball because they had a younger/better back in Ingram and the emergence of Alvin Kamara. And back then he was still expecting to be an every down back regardless of where he went.

This year is a completely different situation with him (taking the vet min, knowing he has to fight for a roster spot, taking any opportunity to play) and with our team (two healthy RBs).

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1198432]I am rooting for the team to suck horribly as long as he is in on the team and for the team to pay for hiring a POS like that in the first place. (GM, coaches, everyone . . . FIRED) I would rather they went 0 - 16 without him than 19 - 0 with him.[/quote]

You actually going to watch every game and hope we lose or just not watch any games? Either way, you're gonna have a miserable season.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1198431]actually . . . multiple women (girlfriends of his) have accused him of abusing their kids . . . women that were reaping the benefits of his wealth, then all of a sudden were scared shitless of him . . . SO YES HE HAS BEEN ACCUSED since then . . . he has just gotten smarter and how he does it . . . no marks, no evidence!![/quote]

I'd have to look into it further. I don't remember hearing anything about it or remember it being discussed in news/around the NFL.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1198387]This how I feel about it.

This is why modern societies have justice systems, with professionals knowing the laws, studying the case, the defendant defending his case, a jury hearing all that for several days of trial before making a decision.

The internet courtroom would sentence everybody to life in a minute without having access to any element of the case...[/QUOTE]



Except that he admittedly beat the four year old with a stick. What other element of the case do we need to know? Lol. That he said he didn’t know that wasn’t normal? Come on.
Why is everyone acting like it is odd that it is difficult to root for a child abuser?
Schneed would root for a Skins running back if the dude raped his own mother, not because he is a bigger fan than you or me, but because he has no soul and was never shown affection as a child.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1198436]OMG People!



This is a one year rental for the much loved vet minimum!



If you didn't watch last weeks game, let me recap it for you:

CT: Didn't play because he's fragile and coming back from injury.

Kelley: 7 carries for 17 yards - HE SUCKS!

Perine: Injured

Marshall: Injured

Carter: Injured and cut - Injury settlement

Bibbs: 5 carries for 6 yards - HE ALSO SUCKS!



Our two healthy backs couldn't average 2 yards a carry combined.



This is a no risk, high reward situation.

Worst case, we cut him and it counts 600K against the cap.

Best case, he has a season like Marcus Allen when Allen went to the Chiefs.[/QUOTE]



Yeah as a football move, all personal feelings aside ( not that they do not matter, because they do), it is a no brainer.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1198398]For those vehemently opposed, how will it affect your rooting for the team? Hypothetically if the skuns were to win the NFC and AP was voted comeback player of the year, would you not join in the celebration?[/QUOTE]



I really really hope we win the NFC, and im really really hoping that AP has nothing to do with it. But in the spirit of your question I would probably join in the celebration and let it be known to all my friends, family, co- workers, and all others who know im a Skins fan that it is really unfortunate that a child abuser had to be the one to take us back to the promised land.
Said it once, and Ill say it again, his performance on the field this year cannot change what he did, and his ultimate fate for his actions is in Gods hands. I dont think he will be let off the hook by the big guy upstairs for winning comeback player of the year so ....

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[quote=punch it in;1198451]Except that he admittedly beat the four year old with a stick. What other element of the case do we need to know? Lol. That he said he didn’t know that wasn’t normal? Come on.
Why is everyone acting like it is odd that it is difficult to root for a child abuser?
Schneed would root for a Skins running back if the dude raped his own mother, not because he is a bigger fan than you or me, but because he has no soul and was never shown affection as a child.[/quote]

My point is not that with enough elements I might approve or be less disgusted by [B]what he did[/B]. I might not, what he did is [I][U][B]un-excusable[/B] under any circumstances.[/U][/I]

My points are:

1) I don't think it is [I][U]up to me to decide[/U][/I] if he paid enough or not for what he did

2) I don't think people should be [I][U]reduced to one thing they did[/U][/I], because:
a) people can be multiple things, [I][U][U]good and bad at the same time[/U][/U][/I]
b) people can [I][U]change[/U][/I]

3) I don't think people should be [I][U]eternally and publicly bashed[/U][/I] for something they did, especially once they paid for it, because it creates a [I][U]vicious circle[/U][/I] and I don't think it helps people becoming [I][U]better versions of themselves[/U][/I], thus neither does it help a [I][U]society becoming better[/U][/I].

4) I don't think [I][U]not ever being allowed to do your job again[/U][/I] should be part of any legal sentence, unless that job is a political one.

5) I have [I][U]absolutely no idea if any of the Redskins players are good people or not[/U][/I], having met and discussed with none of them. I root for this team, thus for the football performances of its players, not for their souls.

Now, I'm not denying your [I][U]right to not root for somebody[/U][/I] for any reason of your choice.
I'm just expressing my discomfort with today's common habit of everybody voicing opinions about an act and the person committing that act, without knowing a lot about neither of the two.

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I think I am most disturbed by the fact some fans are very dismissive of what Adrian Peterson did, not that the Redskins signed him. What he did was abuse no matter what era or culture he came from. It shows some major mental issues if a grown man could do that to a helpless 4 year old child. To me it is one of those things you just can't take back. Unfortunately, as a Redskin fan I will have to root for him while he is on the field. I would prefer the competition at his position improve enough to keep him on the bench.

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I looked at the pics of the wounds of the kid online. If those pics don't piss you off then so be it. The excuse that he did that cause he was raised that way is a weak one. I don't want him on the team I root for. Go to Dallas or the Bengals.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1198456]My point is not that with enough elements I might approve or be less disgusted by [B]what he did[/B]. I might not, what he did is [I][U][B]un-excusable[/B] under any circumstances.[/U][/I]



My points are:



1) I don't think it is [I][U]up to me to decide[/U][/I] if he paid enough or not for what he did



2) I don't think people should be [I][U]reduced to one thing they did[/U][/I], because:

a) people can be multiple things, [I][U][U]good and bad at the same time[/U][/U][/I]

b) people can [I][U]change[/U][/I]



3) I don't think people should be [I][U]eternally and publicly bashed[/U][/I] for something they did, especially once they paid for it, because it creates a [I][U]vicious circle[/U][/I] and I don't think it helps people becoming [I][U]better versions of themselves[/U][/I], thus neither does it help a [I][U]society becoming better[/U][/I].



4) I don't think [I][U]not ever being allowed to do your job again[/U][/I] should be part of any legal sentence, unless that job is a political one.



5) I have [I][U]absolutely no idea if any of the Redskins players are good people or not[/U][/I], having met and discussed with none of them. I root for this team, thus for the football performances of its players, not for their souls.



Now, I'm not denying your [I][U]right to not root for somebody[/U][/I] for any reason of your choice.

I'm just expressing my discomfort with today's common habit of everybody voicing opinions about an act and the person committing that act, without knowing a lot about neither of the two.[/QUOTE]



I agree with an awful lot of what you are saying here. However, and it is a big however, we do know for a fact that he beat a four year old all over his body and on his nut sack with a stick so bad that he needed hospitalization. That is not opinion. That is not conjecture. That is a fact. So as for your very last paragraph, well that is simply not the case. There is just nothing else that you could tell me about AP or the incident that would make that less evil of an act. I do not need to know more about the man to better form my opinion of how i feel about what he did.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1198462]I think I am most disturbed by the fact some fans are [B]very dismissive[/B] of what Adrian Peterson did, not that the Redskins signed him. What he did was abuse no matter what era or culture he came from. It shows some major mental issues if a grown man could do that to a helpless 4 year old child. To me it is one of those things you just can't take back. Unfortunately, as a Redskin fan I will have to root for him while he is on the field. I would prefer the competition at his position improve enough to keep him on the bench.[/quote]

Hold up now, I haven't seen anyone here dismiss what happened. Everyone agrees it was inexcusable and disgusting.

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[quote=punch it in;1198464]I agree with an awful lot of what you are saying here. However, and it is a big however, we do know for a fact that he beat a four year old all over his body and on his nut sack with a stick so bad that he needed hospitalization. That is not opinion. That is not conjecture. That is a fact. So as for your very last paragraph, well that is simply not the case. [B]There is just nothing else that you could tell me about AP or the incident that would make that less evil of an act[/B]. I do not need to know more about the man to better form my opinion of how i feel about what he did.[/quote]

We agree 100% on that, there's nothing that would make what he did less horrendous.
I never intended to discuss that.

My point simply is, as a football fan, I don't consider my role is to morally judge the players. I try to have an opinion on their football performances... and I already manage to sometimes be wrong about that, so I won't venture in evaluating them as individuals... I leave that to the justice system.

Now, I would feel very different about it had he not been legally punished. But he has been, so for me it's now between him, his consciousness, his close ones and his God if he believes in one, none of which is my business.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1198469]We agree 100% on that, there's nothing that would make what he did less horrendous.

I never intended to discuss that.



My point simply is, as a football fan, I don't consider my role is to morally judge the players. I try to have an opinion on their football performances... and I already manage to sometimes be wrong about that, so I won't venture in evaluating them as individuals... I leave that to the justice system.



Now, I would feel very different about it had he not been legally punished. But he has been, so for me it's now between him, his consciousness, his close ones and his God if he believes in one, none of which is my business.[/QUOTE]



Even if he had not been punished legally (the punishment was a joke btw) i would still agree with your last paragraph there.

This was the comment you made in your previous post,


I'm just expressing my discomfort with today's common habit of everybody voicing opinions about an act and the person committing that act, without knowing a lot about neither of the two.

Now, that has nothing to do with football does it? That is what my post was in reply to specifically. We know alot about the act. We know he did it. We have seen pictures. And again i dont need to know anything else about AP.
Look there are two ways to look at this signing, from a football perspective and from a moral perspective- as in “do i want to root for someone I consider to be a bad guy”?
I have absolutely no problem with it as a football move, and for what we paid him and what was available I think you are nuts if you do.
As for a moral perspective I can actually see both sides. Totally understand why you would not want to see good things happen for this man - on or off the field. Also totally understand that no matter what happens on the field it will not change what he did - and God (whatever it is as you put it) is his ultimate judge not Redskin fans.
I think my dream scenario here is that they win the Superbowl and AP gets cut due to a scrotum laceration in his first game. Ahhhh sweet justice.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1198470]Even if he had not been punished legally (the punishment was a joke btw) i would still agree with your last paragraph there.

This was the comment you made in your previous post,


I'm just expressing my discomfort with today's common habit of everybody voicing opinions about an act and the person committing that act, without knowing a lot about neither of the two.

Now, that has nothing to do with football does it? That is what my post was in reply to specifically. We know alot about the act. We know he did it. We have seen pictures. And again i dont need to know anything else about AP.
Look there are two ways to look at this signing, from a football perspective and from a moral perspective- as in “do i want to root for someone I consider to be a bad guy”?
I have absolutely no problem with it as a football move, and for what we paid him and what was available I think you are nuts if you do.
As for a moral perspective I can actually see both sides. Totally understand why you would not want to see good things happen for this man - on or off the field. Also totally understand that no matter what happens on the field it will not change what he did - and God (whatever it is as you put it) is his ultimate judge not Redskin fans.
I think my dream scenario here is that they win the Superbowl and AP gets cut due to a scrotum laceration in his first game. Ahhhh sweet justice.[/QUOTE]Completely understand your POV, I think we agree and just happen to take a different stand on this matter.
In the end we all think what he did was wrong, and we all want the Skins to win the SB.
The only difference is I won't feel bad about cheering when/if he scores a TD for us, because I don't consider I must have an opinion about him as a person when I'm watching a game.

I was wrong to imply we cannot have an opinion on what he did, we definitely can, what I meant is I don't feel I can, nor should, morally judge his overall life, because I don't know him and am not paying for what he is but for what he does on the field.

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This thread is depressing. The only thing I don't like about the signing is how divisive it is. That has nothing to do with whether a player will help us win games, which ideally is the only thing that matters. He's legally allowed to play and the NFL has cleared him to play. So I'm 100% fine with him playing if he can produce. My stance typically is if he/she is legally cleared and/or served his/her legal punishment already, then the matter is done with. I've never physically abused someone but I have a million of my own past sins that thank God don't dictate the rest of my future. Hopefully regardless of our personal opinions we all stick together here and root for the Skins like its 1999.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1198471]Completely understand your POV, I think we agree and just happen to take a different stand on this matter.
In the end we all think what he did was wrong, and we all want the Skins to win the SB.
The only difference is I won't feel bad about cheering when/if he scores a TD for us, because I don't consider I must have an opinion about him as a person when I'm watching a game.

I was wrong to imply we cannot have an opinion on what he did, we definitely can, what I meant is I don't feel I can, nor should, morally judge his overall life, because I don't know him and am not paying for what he is but for what he does on the field.

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Before we both stop beating this dead horse(no pun intended ) let me just ask you one question, let us say that it was a close friend or family member that he had abused, would that make it hard for you to cheer for him?

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[quote=punch it in;1198473]Before we both stop beating this dead horse(no pun intended ) let me just ask you one question, let us say that it was a close friend or family member that he had abused, would that make it hard for you to cheer for him?[/quote]

In that instance, one would think you would have a lot more first hand knowledge of him as a person, right? So, without diminishing his act, you would know if this was, as FrenchSkins was saying, his whole persona, whether he had truly come to a changed point in his life, or if the mea culpa was more show than substance.

If I knew a person was continuing the acts, no I wouldn't cheer for him, would wonder why the NFL allowed him to continue playing, and if close enough to have proof that evil acts continued, I would do what I could to keep him from working.

If I knew the same person was indeed contrite, and had "paid his dues" and made restitution as best as he could, I would try to help him back on his feet.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1198474]In that instance, one would think you would have a lot more first hand knowledge of him as a person, right? So, without diminishing his act, you would know if this was, as FrenchSkins was saying, his whole persona, whether he had truly come to a changed point in his life, or if the mea culpa was more show than substance.



If I knew a person was continuing the acts, no I wouldn't cheer for him, would wonder why the NFL allowed him to continue playing, and if close enough to have proof that evil acts continued, I would do what I could to keep him from working.



If I knew the same person was indeed contrite, and had "paid his dues" and made restitution as best as he could, I would try to help him back on his feet.[/QUOTE]



I thought I was supposed to be the liberal. Lol. You are a lot more forgiving than i am CRED. If someone beats a kid that bad - whether it is mine or not - there aint no helping him back on his feet coming out of me. I admire your ability to forgive and forget though. I mean that.
I have a real tough time getting past the thought of an innocent 4 year old child bleeding from his scrotum and entire body and the pain and horror he must have endured. Also the mental scar that can leave you with for the rest of your life.

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[quote=punch it in;1198477]I thought I was supposed to be the liberal. Lol. You are a lot more forgiving than i am CRED. If someone beats a kid that bad - whether it is mine or not - there aint no helping him back on his feet coming out of me. I admire your ability to forgive and forget though. I mean that.
I have a real tough time getting past the thought of an innocent 4 year old child bleeding from his scrotum and entire body and the pain and horror he must have endured. Also the mental scar that can leave you with for the rest of your life.[/quote]


The mental scars are far worse than the physical abuse. This is why some family's have generations of abuse.

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[quote=punch it in;1198477]I thought I was supposed to be the liberal. Lol. You are a lot more forgiving than i am CRED. If someone beats a kid that bad - whether it is mine or not - there aint no helping him back on his feet coming out of me. I admire your ability to forgive and forget though. I mean that.
I have a real tough time getting past the thought of an innocent 4 year old child bleeding from his scrotum and entire body and the pain and horror he must have endured. Also the mental scar that can leave you with for the rest of your life.[/quote]

note, that I said made restitution, in AP's case that would mean counseling and as the boy grows up helping him heal. We as a society are so more knowledgeable of these issues than even 20 years ago, and the chance of true healing, which I believe forgiveness plays a HUGE part of, is far greater. In this particular instance the 4yo will have the chance to hear his father apologize, and hopefully AP is making amends in everyway possible.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1198463]I looked at the pics of the wounds of the kid online. If those pics don't piss you off then so be it. The excuse that he did that cause he was raised that way is a weak one. I don't want him on the team I root for. Go to Dallas or the Bengals.[/quote]

He's a redskin now. Out of our hands

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1198473]Before we both stop beating this dead horse(no pun intended ) let me just ask you one question, let us say that it was a close friend or family member that he had abused, would that make it hard for you to cheer for him?[/QUOTE]Of course it would... but not sure this is a very good way of thinking: if the whole society act as if they were the victim, or a relative of the victim, then we might just go ahead and sentence everybody to death ^^
It is not my role to act as if I was close to that kid. If we all did that all the time, it would be the end of justice, society, people having second chances etc...

Now, as Isaid, I do think I understand and respect your POV, and as you said, that dead horse has been beaten to a second death... so let it rest in peace
... have a nice one, and HTTR my friend !

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2014/09/12/the-details-of-adrian-petersons-arrest-are-disturbing/[/url]
I probably read this a few years ago, but just wanted to refresh my memory of what exactly went down for the sake of my current thoughts on this guy now that I will be watching him play every weekend. Really seems like , at least at one point, this guy had some real issues. Maybe he has changed. Who knows.

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so . . . if Ezekiel Elliot got hurt, and Peterson would have replaced him on the Cowboys . . . what would your feelings be then? The POS is horrible not matter who he plays on . . . but i think the majority of you that are in full support of him are that way because you're hoping he could be good for the Skins, regardless of what he did or whether or not he deserves a chance to play again. The only reason teams and the NFL allow players like him to still play is that there is never enough backlash from fans. Exactly the opposite actually. AP will probably bring in extra $$$ and as long as he does that, let him play. And that is the problem!!

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1198482]Of course it would... but not sure this is a very good way of thinking: if the whole society act as if they were the victim, or a relative of the victim, then we might just go ahead and sentence everybody to death ^^
It is not my role to act as if I was close to that kid. If we all did that all the time, it would be the end of justice, society, people having second chances etc...

Now, as Isaid, I do think I understand and respect your POV, and as you said, that dead horse has been beaten to a second death... so let it rest in peace
... have a nice one, and HTTR my friend !

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If the whole of society beat four year old boys in the nut sack than we would all deserve to be in jail!
DIE DEAD HORSE DIE!
HTTR

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I have followed the Skins since 1972. I am not thrilled that they have signed a guy convicted of child abuse. However, I am not going to stop rooting for the Skins because they signed a guy whose past actions of which I disapprove.

Should he be in football? Probably not.
Does it bother me that he is playing for my favorite team? Yes.
Am I going to stop watch the Skins because of it? No.

I hope the Skins win the SB and, if AP contributes to that, okay.

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[quote=MTK;1198467]Hold up now, I haven't seen anyone here dismiss what happened. Everyone agrees it was inexcusable and disgusting.[/quote]

Poor choice of words, I guess I should have said minimize.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1198488]I have followed the Skins since 1972. I am not thrilled that they have signed a guy convicted of child abuse. However, I am not going to stop rooting for the Skins because they signed a guy whose past actions of which I disapprove.



Should he be in football? Probably not.

Does it bother me that he is playing for my favorite team? Yes.

Am I going to stop watch the Skins because of it? No.



I hope the Skins win the SB and, if AP contributes to that, okay.[/QUOTE]



I think this sums up exactly where we are all at. We have a conundrum folks. It is a very fine line but at the end of the day we can root for the team and not the man. In other words Im not going to buy his dang jersey. That is for sure. Great season or not he cannot “run away” from what he did. Also next year, barring the renaissance of renaissances he will no longer he a Redskin.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1198484]so . . . if Ezekiel Elliot got hurt, and Peterson would have replaced him on the Cowboys . . . what would your feelings be then? The POS is horrible not matter who he plays on . . . but i think the majority of you that are in full support of him are that way because you're hoping he could be good for the Skins, regardless of what he did or whether or not he deserves a chance to play again. The only reason teams and the NFL allow players like him to still play is that there is never enough backlash from fans. Exactly the opposite actually. AP will probably bring in extra $$$ and as long as he does that, let him play. And that is the problem!![/quote]

I honestly wouldn't care, I would be happy that we didnt have to play Elliott

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1198392]You don't tell me who I can and can't root for, so you shut the fuck up.[/quote]

Ok put your money up then, turn off the Redskins this season. Either take action, or accept that your faux outrage is empty.

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 

[QUOTE=SkinsGuru;1198484]so . . . if Ezekiel Elliot got hurt, and Peterson would have replaced him on the Cowboys . . . what would your feelings be then? The POS is horrible not matter who he plays on . . . but i think the majority of you that are in full support of him are that way because you're hoping he could be good for the Skins, regardless of what he did or whether or not he deserves a chance to play again. The only reason teams and the NFL allow players like him to still play is that there is never enough backlash from fans. Exactly the opposite actually. AP will probably bring in extra $$$ and as long as he does that, let him play. And that is the problem!![/QUOTE]The difference, and I think it's a big difference, is that some teams have a we don't care policy about bringing in " bad guys ". This was not the Redskins first choice nor the second choice it was a situation where a guy did something awful paid the consequences and two or three years later the Redskins had a need and brought him in from that. Again Dallas almost revels in bringing in less than desirable people who are still in the midst of the struggles Cincinnati would be another case. I think that's a major distinction.

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 

I want to emphasize this point - if you’re going to continue buying tickets or buying merchandise or watching the games on TV thereby contributing to the NFL’s TV ratings - then your concern over the Peterson signing is empty and has no teeth behind it.

It’s the equivalent of saying I’m outraged enough by (pick your political issue, school shootings, police violence against black people, etc.) to talk about it on Facebook, but not outraged enough to actually get off my couch and do anything about it. I’ll tell my friends in a bar, “you know they should really ban assault rifles”, but I won’t donate to candidates who support it, and I won’t take a Saturday to march, etc.

Either do something about it, or accept that your opinion doesn’t matter. Continue to blow hot air on a message board if you must, I guess farting in the wind feels good too.

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 

[quote=Schneed10;1198510]Ok put your money up then, turn off the Redskins this season. Either take action, or accept that your faux outrage is empty.[/quote]

You act around here is getting so fucking tired and old.